Hurting other people for personal gain is clearly unethical. Not sure if what you're doing is going to hurt someone? Ask them.
Is that too hard for you? Can you propose a vaguely viable system of ethics based on anything else?
Why don't you go back and re-read my post.. sure its good for doctors.. i think every one would agree doctors should'nt hurt someone(assisted suicide issue aside) but we are talkin about people who code right now... while you might consider they're code offensive and hurtful(no one is making you install this stuff btw), for the coders and others who are involved in it, it buys them groceries and food and stereos etc etc and beer. who are you to say to them what they can and can not program because you don't like it?
It is to say the society/subculture/union is aspirational, it is not just directly for the groups own good, there are ethics which make the groups presence felt, that having the grouping is of use. Its a vision/mission statement thing. Money is not everything, [but no money is nothing].
So what your basically saying is that in the name of the "groups own good" you will impose your morals and ethics on others? And when this case is the group=coders that can litteraly mean anyone who can do: println "Hello World"
do see you what i'm saying here? Your absolutely right money is not everything! But the ability to code what you like or speak what you like is, theoretically maybe DeCSS would be banned out by your "code of ethics" would u agree with that?
No one should hire this this bastard! Since he is a programmer and obviously out to make money as he says he'll of course create programs that he'll need to be called back for later to fix! he'll pull you into his net with constant updates and every fix imaginable you'll require!!
Coders.. your not holy men.. your not preachers.. you write code.. you a job like anyone else does a job.. why should you need or take a an oath? thats just plain dumb and silly.. if someone doesn't take this oath would that mean they can't get access to development tools? Would'nt that go against the very spirit of open source and the GNU license and the whole spirit of sharing..
sure most people hate adware and spyware stuff as much as i do(a ton). but fact of the matter is thats the current support(MONEY) system for some "free" software out there.. perhaps if people paid for the software there would'nt be all that crap added on..
Its up to you to use that software or ad laden website.. free choice.. stop whining about extras on free software.. its free for a reason, especially the companies that aren't in it for a "greater good" they're in it for making money.. we live in a capitalist society.. get used to it.
Best Buy sends the credit card info cleartext over 802.11....... hmmmm maybe they really truly are best buy then! They went out and found the cheapest Wireless Point of Sale system.. to them it was the BEST BUY:)
broadcast Pronunciation Key (brôdkst) v. broadcast, or broadcasted broadcasting, broadcasts v. tr. 1. To transmit (a radio or television program) for public or general use. 2. To send out or communicate, especially by radio or television: The agency broadcast an urgent appeal for medical supplies. 3. To make known over a wide area: broadcast rumors. See Synonyms at announce. To sow (seed) over a wide area, especially by hand.
Note #2 especially radio or television, but not excluseively.. My point here being.. doesn't Cable TV networks broadcast music channels for all differnt kinds.. like 40+ stations right through your tv or in most people's case... their home entertainment network.. i could easily re-route(flip a dial) the sound from my cable box to my computer and record all those if i wanted to in pure digital too..
So how much are digital cable companies paying for broadcast royalties? And if its different than net broadcasts.. why?
But for now, nobody's asking ordinary people what they want.
So i'll ask, what do you people want? the ability to send digital videos of your home movies to friends.. or to have your computer totally restricted in what it can and can not do..
On a side note here.. It seems that Microsoft is all pretty gung ho while stay quiet about DRM technology.. Mostly i think because they can profit off of it by blending it into the OS, which makes me wonder why other DRM software companies don't seem to worried that Microsoft will dominate this software field as well... any thoughts?
In thirty years your country will be nothing against the military and economic might of a billion chinese consumers
Right... and of those billion chinamen only 60-80 million i believe have any economic buying power right now at all... do you really think china can survive allowing all members of thier society to reach 1st world nation levels of living? and still maintain communism? Ha thats a good one! and if they do revolt or whatever it will be... they will come the the US & EU for help on buildin thier society...
Did anyone else who read the article notice that he seems to talk about 13 year old girls just a bit too much.... he's not a catholic priest in his spare time is he?
sheesh someone modded me down as offtopic?!?! silly moderators... so someone wanna explain the reason for people with mid-level karma getting to mod the most?? ya would think the high level 40+(like muh self and others) would be able to mod more for having better karma... sillyness... our the slashdot editors from NJ or sumthing??!!?
Am I the only person who like Jar-Jar from TPM? I thought he was funny! he made me laugh he was so silly! maybe i was stoned every time i saw it(good BC buds) but still he cracked me up! anyone else out there liked jar jar?
Frankly this sounds more like a Shelbyville idea. -- TaCo showing more proof he never reads the articles he posts! if ya read the article you'll notice that people can walk the strip in vegas faster then they can drive it sometimes and the city is in desperate need of more mass transit and its being done in style... yeah really like shelbyville... idiot...
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Hurting other people for personal gain is clearly unethical. Not sure if what you're doing is going to hurt someone? Ask them.
Is that too hard for you? Can you propose a vaguely viable system of ethics based on anything else?
Why don't you go back and re-read my post.. sure its good for doctors.. i think every one would agree doctors should'nt hurt someone(assisted suicide issue aside) but we are talkin about people who code right now... while you might consider they're code offensive and hurtful(no one is making you install this stuff btw), for the coders and others who are involved in it, it buys them groceries and food and stereos etc etc and beer. who are you to say to them what they can and can not program because you don't like it?
It is to say the society/subculture/union is aspirational, it is not just directly for the groups own good, there are ethics which make the groups presence felt, that having the grouping is of use. Its a vision/mission statement thing. Money is not everything, [but no money is nothing].
So what your basically saying is that in the name of the "groups own good" you will impose your morals and ethics on others? And when this case is the group=coders that can litteraly mean anyone who can do: println "Hello World"
do see you what i'm saying here? Your absolutely right money is not everything! But the ability to code what you like or speak what you like is, theoretically maybe DeCSS would be banned out by your "code of ethics" would u agree with that?
think about it...
No one should hire this this bastard! Since he is a programmer and obviously out to make money as he says he'll of course create programs that he'll need to be called back for later to fix! he'll pull you into his net with constant updates and every fix imaginable you'll require!!
:)
hehe well.. i find it funny
So your saying coding should be allowed for only people who have your "version of ethics" then basically right?
See I think that is wrong as do a lot of people. and doctors only take their oath in our "civilized nations" that we live in.
think about it...
OK.. I'm gonna rant now.
Coders.. your not holy men.. your not preachers.. you write code.. you a job like anyone else does a job.. why should you need or take a an oath? thats just plain dumb and silly.. if someone doesn't take this oath would that mean they can't get access to development tools? Would'nt that go against the very spirit of open source and the GNU license and the whole spirit of sharing..
sure most people hate adware and spyware stuff as much as i do(a ton). but fact of the matter is thats the current support(MONEY) system for some "free" software out there.. perhaps if people paid for the software there would'nt be all that crap added on..
Its up to you to use that software or ad laden website.. free choice.. stop whining about extras on free software.. its free for a reason, especially the companies that aren't in it for a "greater good" they're in it for making money.. we live in a capitalist society.. get used to it.
end rant
strangely its now ranked: Amazon.com Sales Rank: 13 instead of 12 as posted!
:)
I think this is the first time some kind of stat has gone down! instead of up when posted on slashdot.. granted its still early.. but still funny
Best Buy sends the credit card info cleartext over 802.11....... hmmmm maybe they really truly are best buy then! They went out and found the cheapest Wireless Point of Sale system.. to them it was the BEST BUY :)
broadcast Pronunciation Key (brôdkst)
v. broadcast, or broadcasted broadcasting, broadcasts
v. tr.
1. To transmit (a radio or television program) for public or general use.
2. To send out or communicate, especially by radio or television: The agency broadcast an urgent appeal for medical supplies.
3. To make known over a wide area: broadcast rumors. See Synonyms at announce.
To sow (seed) over a wide area, especially by hand.
Note #2 especially radio or television, but not excluseively.. My point here being.. doesn't Cable TV networks broadcast music channels for all differnt kinds.. like 40+ stations right through your tv or in most people's case... their home entertainment network.. i could easily re-route(flip a dial) the sound from my cable box to my computer and record all those if i wanted to in pure digital too..
So how much are digital cable companies paying for broadcast royalties? And if its different than net broadcasts.. why?
But for now, nobody's asking ordinary people what they want.
So i'll ask, what do you people want? the ability to send digital videos of your home movies to friends.. or to have your computer totally restricted in what it can and can not do..
On a side note here.. It seems that Microsoft is all pretty gung ho while stay quiet about DRM technology.. Mostly i think because they can profit off of it by blending it into the OS, which makes me wonder why other DRM software companies don't seem to worried that Microsoft will dominate this software field as well... any thoughts?
OK so my last post was titled.. moderation totals for the post before it... yet this post was given:
Moderation Totals: Offtopic=2, Total=2.
hmmm it seems to be right on topic... more proof moderators here are pretty damn stupid...
In thirty years your country will be nothing against the military and economic might of a billion chinese consumers
Right... and of those billion chinamen only 60-80 million i believe have any economic buying power right now at all... do you really think china can survive allowing all members of thier society to reach 1st world nation levels of living? and still maintain communism? Ha thats a good one! and if they do revolt or whatever it will be... they will come the the US & EU for help on buildin thier society...
Moderation Totals: Flamebait=1, Troll=1, Total=2.
:)
Either today's moderators have no sense of humor or they like little girls
Did anyone else who read the article notice that he seems to talk about 13 year old girls just a bit too much.... he's not a catholic priest in his spare time is he?
2) It'a a terrific parody of the Star Wars series. If a student filmmaker had made this, Jar Jar Binks would have been hysterical, not insulting.
:)
uhh dude... he was funny! get a life and a sense of humor
I have 50 karma, I get mod points (just used my five for today), and I would have modded you down as off-topic, too.
Well aren't you fucking special?
You are a karma whore.
:) find a job yet?
Been There, done That... karma still in high 40's
How about anyone who doesn't read slashdot.org :)
:)
Taking bets on moderation totals now
sheesh someone modded me down as offtopic?!?! silly moderators... so someone wanna explain the reason for people with mid-level karma getting to mod the most?? ya would think the high level 40+(like muh self and others) would be able to mod more for having better karma... sillyness... our the slashdot editors from NJ or sumthing??!!?
Would'nt it be funny if Jack Velenti was caught with...say... child porn!
haha
Samsung sees potential sales of flat panels for electronic books at 24,973 units this year.
;)
nice prediction!!! how the hell they do that!!!
Am I the only person who like Jar-Jar from TPM? I thought he was funny! he made me laugh he was so silly! maybe i was stoned every time i saw it(good BC buds) but still he cracked me up! anyone else out there liked jar jar?
Frankly this sounds more like a Shelbyville idea. -- TaCo showing more proof he never reads the articles he posts! if ya read the article you'll notice that people can walk the strip in vegas faster then they can drive it sometimes and the city is in desperate need of more mass transit and its being done in style... yeah really like shelbyville... idiot...
Nah i already got karma of 48-50 range(changes daily) sure it'll go down after this one...
Nice! Now I can war drive at twice the speed!
It was rejected..
2002-04-22 08:45:25 Evolutionists spread "false" theories via MAC OS X (articles,humor) (rejected)
Burn my karma.. i dunt care.. thats way fucking lame of you editors... sheesh...
Maybe i should be supporting the lame slashdot blackout!