I've had this happen in the past, and it really isn't the get out that they want it to be if you are willing to not let them steam roll you. My general response is to send them another email, documenting one additional unimportant aspect of the job "I expect work on this project to be completed in around 2 weeks" but basically just as a cover for saying "Thank you for explaining to me in person why you do not believe the concerns I have aired are an issue".
Hell they are gonna know you are pinning this shit on them, but if it really is such a dubious idea that they daren't be blamed for it then you have even more reason to cover your own ass.
Off the top of my head I can think of a number of careers that could lead to someone being victimised: Doctor who performs abortions, Scientists working in the field of genetic modification or stem cells and even Peace Keepers in numerous countries.
You might not like the work he does, but the fact some idiots will make his life difficult for sticking his head up is not justified by that.
Oh come on, do you really expect every article to specify the distributions it is referring to when the characteristic is something shared by almost all of the major ones. At best you'll get them saying Ubuntu instead (in place) of Linux, at worst they just won't bother mentioning it.
You know full well what they meant, as did anyone else who knows what Linux is so why the attempt at criticism.
"OTOH, if they decide to screen for GUNS in the US... that's a Second Amendment right we DO have... and whole other issue."
Hell I'm not even American and I know the second amendment is the right to bear 'arms'. So I'll let you keep your 'GUNS' if I can have my nuclear armaments tyvm.
As with all analogies the path example with two perfectly equal options is theoretical.
Firstly when making snap decisions you will not fully weigh up all factors, and instead rely on past experience to judge on what you can quickly ascertain and seems most important.
In the case of both the M&M and the path analogy their is a lot of reasons why going with the known is preferable. You can never 'know' that both options are 100% equal, even if all evidence leads you to believe so, thus once you have made a choice and that choice seemed beneficial it is pointless risking the alternative.
This would at least explain the preference for the red M&M, and the path you have already taken.
What is more interesting about this study is that the subjects lowered their perceived rating of the discarded option. This makes no 'logical' sense when seen in the context of a single decision.
It thus becomes likely that the advantage of degrading unchosen options is actually something far more obtuse such as removing doubt and second guessing from our thoughts, allowing us to move on to other decisions. "The decisions been made no point worrying about it now" is a common phrase, it also gives us a fascinating insight into how people can build up biases without consciously deciding to.
What I'd be fascinated to see research into, is how we can control/over-come such processes when required. Practically anyone who makes decisions as part of their job would benefit from being able to apply true objectivity (Judges being an obvious example).
Legal Tender means that someone selling something can refuse a sale if someone wishes to purchase it with small change (within certain limits).
In this case they are paying a fine, I doubt payment in any form can be refused unless Canadian Legal Tender laws are hugely different to UK law. Basically I can choose not to take your money (legal tender) I can't say you HAVE to give me it in a different form.
Now you may well be right, and this isn't meant as a insult.... BUT
Why are people constantly claiming that they don't get viruses and spyware, and at the same time don't bother using AV and/or Spyware.
If you haven't used anti-spyware in two years, how can you possibly know you haven't had spyware in the last four years? Making statements like that just makes you look ignorant or uninformed.
Oh come on I bought it on DVD and then bought the special edition DVD and when finally I go HD I'll get a HD version. But wtf does that matter? Ones persons preference does not a business plan make.... and people modded parent informative:-|
I guess i'm a potential idiot, don't get me wrong I certainly don't want to, but I really don't think the 'democractic' worlds approach of ignoring all their questionable tendencies so we can use them for cheap labour is right.
If I honestly thought that going to war with China would improve the quality of life of its people enough, and that this was not possible by any other means (which I think it is) then I'd be for it. We're only on this earth once, and I'd risk dieing to do something I know was worth that existence, than waste it 'surviving'. To me one of the greatest things about humanity, is how it's capable of giving so much because it's the right thing to do, the biggest shame is that it happens so rarely.
The very nature of the internet as it stands is what makes is so special.
I can jump on IRC or MSN and talk to anyone who I happen to have the nick of. If I want to learn about "Jumping the shark" on wikipedia I can. The uncontrolled nature of the internet is what has led to filesharing, true (or very nearly) free speech, freedom of information (gagging orders are nearly useless at stopping things passing around on the net).
I love the internet exactly because noone at the moment really controls it, yes that means spam and script kiddies, but to me thats a small price to pay for the pay offs, I'm just sad that when I tell my kids about how the web used to be, they won't be able to imagine it because the highly regulated one they use won't be anything like it.
I'll take your post at face value, but will pre-warn that as a Brit my knowledge of the patriot act is somewhat limited.
Now first may I start by saying simply because something doesn't effect you, doesn't mean you should be for it. Anti race, religion and sexuality law making could be an example of this.
However how 'could' or 'does' PA effect you:
Well thanks to 'sneak-and-peek', you might never know it's being used against you.
Whenever you borrow a book from a libary (if you do that kind of thing) then you can bet that that information goes somewhere, so just hope its nothing contentious. And even I have heard of people being visited by homeland security for borrowing books (and no not terrorism hand books).
Add to that the harm the large number of innocent people of none American origin have come to:
"By my count, based on government-released figures, they've detained over 5,000 foreign nationals in antiterrorism-related initiatives," says David Cole, a Georgetown University law professor and author of the forthcoming book "Enemy Aliens." "The government has treated thousands of people as suspected terrorists who turned out to have nothing to do with terrorism."
I know I would be furious if one of my loved ones was locked away without trial simply for their skin colour.
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Surely the greatest quotes extol the virtues of freedom regardless of cost. No great man ever said, make me safe, give me a prison and put me inside.
And you can't see how some people don't want others to have guns, because they don't believe they are capable of only killing those who pose a threat to them, rather than some guy at the bar who insulted their manhood.
I wouldn't trust anyone with a gun, who I wouldn't trust with a nuke, if they are willing to kill thousands of innocents, then they aren't going to mind killing a few dozen.
Because it follows the laws of that country (right or wrong). The scary part is that in China it is the law that they censor search results, last time I checked in America what the goverment is forcing them to do is clearly against it:|
Hell it seems to me google resisted because it didn't want to give away secrets, take the cost of goverment fishing and possibly for the geek pr. I never got the impression they were doing it to protect their users in any way.
Personally I use azureus with RSS feed scanner. After the basic setup (name, eps wanted) it downloads episodes as it sees them. I get 24, BSG, The Simpsons and now Colbert downloaded overnight (I live in UK). Plus I have the option to get them normal, 720p or 1080i res.
Now don't get me wrong, I realise this is illegal, but what you have their is a completely free system, comprised of different teams of volunteers which has managed something people are now lauding apple for!?
In the end, I'm not going to pay money for something I can't easily do what I like with, $2 for limited access to a limited quality episode of a TV program!? I got 4 series of 24 on DVD for what $90s or so, and thats 96 episodes.
Take a look at what is happening in Zimbabwe if they find out you vote against Mugabe's party. How about what happened to the Jews because the Nazi's knew there religion. Or how about Cambodia where the wrong shape head could get you killed? This isn't a Utopia, thing about how the information could be used in good times and in bad.
What's depressing about your point of view, is your think everyone is being worried for no reason. Simply because you didn't take the time, or use your brain to think things through.
Now that is something, I mean how much more blatantly illegal can something be than without your permission (or even hidden warning) installing something that modifies your computer. I KNOW that is a crime under UK law (infact wasn't that the one they did the security consultant who was checking the charity website for).
Also as you have not read (and then by dodgy implication agreed with) the EULA you havent agreed to the clause saying you can only hold Sony for $5 of damages.
I may be missing something, but thats breaking the law, damaging your computer and not having any limited responsibility. How can sony not get shafted for this?
Obviously the other posters are correct about the OSS mentality being a major, if not the major area.
However, I think perhaps if you were to take a look at some interesting open source applications, and come up with some changes you could implement (or even ask the class to implement). Showing them that with OSS they have the power (and right) to go in and change everything from an OSS, to a egg timing widget, might demonstrate the control and empowerment use of OSS can give.
Whinge, Whinging and Whinger are words I am quite sure just about everyone in the UK is aware of (although their validity, origin and my woeful record with spelling are all debatable).
"typically this will be done by using TV detector equipment"
Evidence from TV detection equipment is treated in the same way as other forms of intrusive monitoring (wire taps, bugging, climbing in through a window).
They'd have to get a warrant before they could collect the data for use in court (thus your only really at risk if they can observe your TV activity from a public place).
They detect the EMF related to the electron guns inside of your TV (among other things so obviously filtering is an issue). If my ex-housemate is to be trusted the military (in the UK) have had the ability to 'see' what your TV is showing from outside of a house.
I'd assume their process went much along the lines of use their database of 'all the houses without a license' tm to go around bugging people without them.
In a few cases they may bother parking a van outside of the houses first to see what they are watching, but although they'd 'know' what you were watching its not admissable as evidence.
"However, if you never turn on the TV, the detector vans they send around to check license compliance won't find it and so the law becomes unenforceable."
I think you worry to much. If my memory serves me correctly the detector vans are used simply to decide who to 'call' on. The technology to detect TV EMF invades the privacy of the home and so requires a warrant (much as wire tapping does) if it is to be used as evidence.
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I've had this happen in the past, and it really isn't the get out that they want it to be if you are willing to not let them steam roll you. My general response is to send them another email, documenting one additional unimportant aspect of the job "I expect work on this project to be completed in around 2 weeks" but basically just as a cover for saying "Thank you for explaining to me in person why you do not believe the concerns I have aired are an issue". Hell they are gonna know you are pinning this shit on them, but if it really is such a dubious idea that they daren't be blamed for it then you have even more reason to cover your own ass.
How is this insightful?
Off the top of my head I can think of a number of careers that could lead to someone being victimised: Doctor who performs abortions, Scientists working in the field of genetic modification or stem cells and even Peace Keepers in numerous countries.
You might not like the work he does, but the fact some idiots will make his life difficult for sticking his head up is not justified by that.
Oh come on, do you really expect every article to specify the distributions it is referring to when the characteristic is something shared by almost all of the major ones. At best you'll get them saying Ubuntu instead (in place) of Linux, at worst they just won't bother mentioning it. You know full well what they meant, as did anyone else who knows what Linux is so why the attempt at criticism.
"OTOH, if they decide to screen for GUNS in the US... that's a Second Amendment right we DO have... and whole other issue."
Hell I'm not even American and I know the second amendment is the right to bear 'arms'. So I'll let you keep your 'GUNS' if I can have my nuclear armaments tyvm.
As with all analogies the path example with two perfectly equal options is theoretical. Firstly when making snap decisions you will not fully weigh up all factors, and instead rely on past experience to judge on what you can quickly ascertain and seems most important. In the case of both the M&M and the path analogy their is a lot of reasons why going with the known is preferable. You can never 'know' that both options are 100% equal, even if all evidence leads you to believe so, thus once you have made a choice and that choice seemed beneficial it is pointless risking the alternative. This would at least explain the preference for the red M&M, and the path you have already taken. What is more interesting about this study is that the subjects lowered their perceived rating of the discarded option. This makes no 'logical' sense when seen in the context of a single decision. It thus becomes likely that the advantage of degrading unchosen options is actually something far more obtuse such as removing doubt and second guessing from our thoughts, allowing us to move on to other decisions. "The decisions been made no point worrying about it now" is a common phrase, it also gives us a fascinating insight into how people can build up biases without consciously deciding to. What I'd be fascinated to see research into, is how we can control/over-come such processes when required. Practically anyone who makes decisions as part of their job would benefit from being able to apply true objectivity (Judges being an obvious example).
Legal Tender means that someone selling something can refuse a sale if someone wishes to purchase it with small change (within certain limits). In this case they are paying a fine, I doubt payment in any form can be refused unless Canadian Legal Tender laws are hugely different to UK law. Basically I can choose not to take your money (legal tender) I can't say you HAVE to give me it in a different form.
Don't worry it's still your year number 10 ;)
Or you could call it Ubuntu 7 - The free one.
Now you may well be right, and this isn't meant as a insult.... BUT
Why are people constantly claiming that they don't get viruses and spyware, and at the same time don't bother using AV and/or Spyware.
If you haven't used anti-spyware in two years, how can you possibly know you haven't had spyware in the last four years? Making statements like that just makes you look ignorant or uninformed.
Oh come on I bought it on DVD and then bought the special edition DVD and when finally I go HD I'll get a HD version. But wtf does that matter? Ones persons preference does not a business plan make.... and people modded parent informative :-|
I guess i'm a potential idiot, don't get me wrong I certainly don't want to, but I really don't think the 'democractic' worlds approach of ignoring all their questionable tendencies so we can use them for cheap labour is right.
If I honestly thought that going to war with China would improve the quality of life of its people enough, and that this was not possible by any other means (which I think it is) then I'd be for it. We're only on this earth once, and I'd risk dieing to do something I know was worth that existence, than waste it 'surviving'. To me one of the greatest things about humanity, is how it's capable of giving so much because it's the right thing to do, the biggest shame is that it happens so rarely.
No your right, assure is misplaced, ensure would probably be what they were aiming at. It does make sense, but at best it's a poor choice.
As to the flamer, I can but apologise for my fellow Briton (most likely), and hope you believe it when I say, we're not all that bad.
The very nature of the internet as it stands is what makes is so special. I can jump on IRC or MSN and talk to anyone who I happen to have the nick of. If I want to learn about "Jumping the shark" on wikipedia I can. The uncontrolled nature of the internet is what has led to filesharing, true (or very nearly) free speech, freedom of information (gagging orders are nearly useless at stopping things passing around on the net). I love the internet exactly because noone at the moment really controls it, yes that means spam and script kiddies, but to me thats a small price to pay for the pay offs, I'm just sad that when I tell my kids about how the web used to be, they won't be able to imagine it because the highly regulated one they use won't be anything like it.
I'll take your post at face value, but will pre-warn that as a Brit my knowledge of the patriot act is somewhat limited. Now first may I start by saying simply because something doesn't effect you, doesn't mean you should be for it. Anti race, religion and sexuality law making could be an example of this. However how 'could' or 'does' PA effect you: Well thanks to 'sneak-and-peek', you might never know it's being used against you. Whenever you borrow a book from a libary (if you do that kind of thing) then you can bet that that information goes somewhere, so just hope its nothing contentious. And even I have heard of people being visited by homeland security for borrowing books (and no not terrorism hand books). Add to that the harm the large number of innocent people of none American origin have come to: "By my count, based on government-released figures, they've detained over 5,000 foreign nationals in antiterrorism-related initiatives," says David Cole, a Georgetown University law professor and author of the forthcoming book "Enemy Aliens." "The government has treated thousands of people as suspected terrorists who turned out to have nothing to do with terrorism." I know I would be furious if one of my loved ones was locked away without trial simply for their skin colour. - Surely the greatest quotes extol the virtues of freedom regardless of cost. No great man ever said, make me safe, give me a prison and put me inside.
And you can't see how some people don't want others to have guns, because they don't believe they are capable of only killing those who pose a threat to them, rather than some guy at the bar who insulted their manhood. I wouldn't trust anyone with a gun, who I wouldn't trust with a nuke, if they are willing to kill thousands of innocents, then they aren't going to mind killing a few dozen.
Because it follows the laws of that country (right or wrong). The scary part is that in China it is the law that they censor search results, last time I checked in America what the goverment is forcing them to do is clearly against it :|
Hell it seems to me google resisted because it didn't want to give away secrets, take the cost of goverment fishing and possibly for the geek pr. I never got the impression they were doing it to protect their users in any way.
Personally I use azureus with RSS feed scanner. After the basic setup (name, eps wanted) it downloads episodes as it sees them. I get 24, BSG, The Simpsons and now Colbert downloaded overnight (I live in UK). Plus I have the option to get them normal, 720p or 1080i res.
Now don't get me wrong, I realise this is illegal, but what you have their is a completely free system, comprised of different teams of volunteers which has managed something people are now lauding apple for!?
In the end, I'm not going to pay money for something I can't easily do what I like with, $2 for limited access to a limited quality episode of a TV program!? I got 4 series of 24 on DVD for what $90s or so, and thats 96 episodes.
Take a look at what is happening in Zimbabwe if they find out you vote against Mugabe's party. How about what happened to the Jews because the Nazi's knew there religion. Or how about Cambodia where the wrong shape head could get you killed? This isn't a Utopia, thing about how the information could be used in good times and in bad.
What's depressing about your point of view, is your think everyone is being worried for no reason. Simply because you didn't take the time, or use your brain to think things through.
Now that is something, I mean how much more blatantly illegal can something be than without your permission (or even hidden warning) installing something that modifies your computer. I KNOW that is a crime under UK law (infact wasn't that the one they did the security consultant who was checking the charity website for).
Also as you have not read (and then by dodgy implication agreed with) the EULA you havent agreed to the clause saying you can only hold Sony for $5 of damages.
I may be missing something, but thats breaking the law, damaging your computer and not having any limited responsibility. How can sony not get shafted for this?
Doh too many Ss spoil the OS :| I knew they put that pesky preview thing in for a reason.
Obviously the other posters are correct about the OSS mentality being a major, if not the major area.
However, I think perhaps if you were to take a look at some interesting open source applications, and come up with some changes you could implement (or even ask the class to implement). Showing them that with OSS they have the power (and right) to go in and change everything from an OSS, to a egg timing widget, might demonstrate the control and empowerment use of OSS can give.
Whinge, Whinging and Whinger are words I am quite sure just about everyone in the UK is aware of (although their validity, origin and my woeful record with spelling are all debatable).
"typically this will be done by using TV detector equipment" Evidence from TV detection equipment is treated in the same way as other forms of intrusive monitoring (wire taps, bugging, climbing in through a window). They'd have to get a warrant before they could collect the data for use in court (thus your only really at risk if they can observe your TV activity from a public place).
They detect the EMF related to the electron guns inside of your TV (among other things so obviously filtering is an issue). If my ex-housemate is to be trusted the military (in the UK) have had the ability to 'see' what your TV is showing from outside of a house. I'd assume their process went much along the lines of use their database of 'all the houses without a license' tm to go around bugging people without them. In a few cases they may bother parking a van outside of the houses first to see what they are watching, but although they'd 'know' what you were watching its not admissable as evidence.
"However, if you never turn on the TV, the detector vans they send around to check license compliance won't find it and so the law becomes unenforceable."
I think you worry to much. If my memory serves me correctly the detector vans are used simply to decide who to 'call' on. The technology to detect TV EMF invades the privacy of the home and so requires a warrant (much as wire tapping does) if it is to be used as evidence.