t's simple, SCO has lied and it's a known fact. They've lied a LOT,
Actually the real question is, have they *ever* said anything regarding Linux, Unix, "IP", or the GPL that was true?
Other than the single instance Perens noted of a tiny bit of SysV code being in a developement kernel (and on it's way out), I can't think of anything SCO has said that wasn't pure Bullshit.
If you want to sound professional you do not tell someone to stop wasting your time in a letter. Find another way to put it.
Given SCO's antics and out-and-out dishonestly, this letter was more than adequately professional. It was certainly better than SCO deserves. By using blunt language, he let's SCO know he is not going to roll for them, and they should look for weaker prey.
The SCO debacle has created a crisis within the Linux community. They pretend that it hasn't, but it has. This will come to a head in 2004 with either the development of a new organizational structure for Linux or the start of its demise. Linux has to grow or die, and the direction it takes will be determined in 2004.'
No elaboration, explanation, discussion of what 'grow or die' means. How trivial.
As for SCO, they'll continue to make noise until the middle of the year, at which point the legal case will implode and the company will give up...This was never more than a stock scam,
This much at least seems true.
We'll see more of this ploy in the future.
This seems unlikely. Once SCO self-destructs and all non-insiders are left hoding shares at 100% loss, this pattern will become evident even to financial analysts (who, with few exceptions, have been amazingly dense sofar). Even Didio and Enderle will be able to see it then, though they'll never have the decency to say so.
I bought Linux because it was cheap... if I can get Solaris at the same price I'll buy Solaris.
That doesn't make sense to me on the x86 arch. I've seen solaris x86 (ver 8, anyhow). No vim. No pine (though given WU's track record, maybe that's a good thing.). old perl. no gcc, IIRC.
Most of the stuff I want to do is open source. If I download an open-source anything to a modern Linux, it just works. This stuff is mostly being developed on Linux these days. On Solaris, I'd expect this to be more dificult.
Maybe I'm looking at too old a version, but it just seems lame.
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What everyone seems to forget is that the code Mr. Aivazian submitted might have nothing to do with SCO's source.
SCO has never shown what the code is. They have named broadly a few features - SMP being one and one of more journaling filesystems as being onother - saying that these had to come from IBM. So information that SCaldera's own people put it in, with managment approval is very relevant.
The really funny thing is: what if someone working for Caldera (now SCO) did illegally put SCO-owned code in - but when they were Caldrera, not SCO, and so didn't have the right. Now, they are SCOG and must sue themselves (or their former selves at any rate).
The point I was trying to make - namely that MS managed to antagonize a judge to the point that the judge made public statements that led a higher court to reverse the ruling on the breakup order - still stands.
Maybe, but I still think the appeals court had to be bought and paid for. After all, Judge Jackson's remarks were made AFTER he'd witnessed blatant bullshit on MS's part. At that point, sayiing that MS are a bunch of lying fucks is not bias - it's just a statement of fact.
Remember how Boies managed to antagonize the judge
Moron. You've got it 100% backwards - Boise was on the DOJ teanm for that one.
The verdict was overturned, and Gates won.
The verdict was NOT overturned. Only an idiot would say that. All findings of fact that Microsft broke anti-trust law remain in effect. What was overturned was the penalty that was originally prescribed. To that extent, Gates did win, tragically.
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No, corporate death penalties suck. Look at Andersen Accounting - 2 or 3 assholes cook Enron's books and 7000 people are out of work.
What needs to happen is that the corporate veil is shredded and burnt and the appropriate penalty is applied to the individuals who did the deed. Ken Lay would be drowned in shit. Ditto Darl McBride.
Access...just isn't meant to be a multi-user application.
Rekall is ONLY the frontend part. It has no internal DB, but interfaces to mysql, db2 postgresql and others. So you r issues with design still hold, but this one atleast doesn't apply to a rekall
Again, I'm not just talking out my ass here, I've lived through that entire cycle, and in recent memory.
Again, the question is HOW did this happen? Ketoacidosis doesn't happen by itself. Were you a diabetic with poorly controlled blood sugar? If so, current thinking is that chronic hyperglycemia causes kidney damage, while the lack of insulin that caused the hyperglycemia also leads to ketoacidosis. I am not a doctor or a chemist, but I am a type 2 diabetic who has had good results on all tests (including liver and kidney tests, as well the A1c and blood fat profiles) when following a limited carb regime and exercising.
Do you have any understanding of what a ketone is?
There's really no such thing as a good or safe level of ketones in your system,
Right, so the instant you run out of carbohydrates in the digestion pipeline, you immediately lpase into a profoundly unhealty state? Nice try, but fat and its use evolved as a backup energy storage mechanism.
Artificially seeking to boost this (thus lowering the pH of your blood, again this is basic chem), is really dangerous.
Why does everybody think it's so easy to change the PH of your blood? The body resists this mightily.
In the 70s tape worms were considered a valid way to diet
Which has nothing at all to do with the current arument. Your attempt to drag this crap in is a complete red herring.
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How about reading up on what "ketosis" does to your body sometime?
How about understanding that there is more than one corcumstance that will cause ketosis and they are not equal:
Serious diabetes: No insulin in the blood, so glucose can't be used, so the body (starved for energy) frantically turns fat into ketones, but these are also ill used in the absence of insulin. Kidneys are probably ALREADY damaged by years of high blood sugars before this ever happens, as high glucose by itself is enough to damage kidneys.
Low carb diet: in the absence of enogugh carbs to meet all energy needs, the body turns fat into ketones which are then used for some energy needs. So far, no study that I've heard of has demonstrated that this form of ketosis harms kidneys. liver or anything else.
But if you're really concerned, you can go to your doctor every 3 to 6 months and get a workup for liver and kidney function. Typically these are unchanged or improve for people who limit carbohydrates, especially if they are doing so to address diabete.
not only are there vastly more Microsoft exploits reported, but that the exploits tend to be much more severe, involving remote administrator access."
And most MS patches require a reboot after patching, making mass patching of production servers an agonizing experinece. Most of the Linux vulns are in programs where you just replace the progam files and maybe stop and restart a service.
Why didn't the story mention that this is the fool Enderle? I don't even bother to read his stuff anymore, he's so full of shit.
He lost his gig as an "analyst" with giga for writing in public that he is just someone whose opinion is for sale. Now all he can do is stir up shit to grovel for eyeballs.
Don't give adverstisers your eyeballs for this one.
Enderle is so far over the top that even PHBs (I hope) will see this for the nonsense it is.
Loose: Linux can't obviously not contain any SCO IP, because it's not business ready. SCO's lawsuit will collapse.
Any chance of saying that in english? The triple negative is confusing and the second sentence doesn't seem to flow from any reasonabler interpretation of the first. And "loose" is an adjective meaning approximately the "opposite of tight".
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Why would we give him hits? Stay away. Or better yet, go there, buyt with images disabled - loads the publisher's server without providing ad revenue.
Stop srpeading their nonsense.
Actually the real question is, have they *ever* said anything regarding Linux, Unix, "IP", or the GPL that was true?
Other than the single instance Perens noted of a tiny bit of SysV code being in a developement kernel (and on it's way out), I can't think of anything SCO has said that wasn't pure Bullshit.
Given SCO's antics and out-and-out dishonestly, this letter was more than adequately professional. It was certainly better than SCO deserves. By using blunt language, he let's SCO know he is not going to roll for them, and they should look for weaker prey.
I work in america. I live in America. I want to use Linux at work and at home. You are an idiot.
No elaboration, explanation, discussion of what 'grow or die' means. How trivial.
As for SCO, they'll continue to make noise until the middle of the year, at which point the legal case will implode and the company will give up...This was never more than a stock scam,
This much at least seems true.
We'll see more of this ploy in the future.
This seems unlikely. Once SCO self-destructs and all non-insiders are left hoding shares at 100% loss, this pattern will become evident even to financial analysts (who, with few exceptions, have been amazingly dense sofar). Even Didio and Enderle will be able to see it then, though they'll never have the decency to say so.
That doesn't make sense to me on the x86 arch. I've seen solaris x86 (ver 8, anyhow). No vim. No pine (though given WU's track record, maybe that's a good thing.). old perl. no gcc, IIRC.
Most of the stuff I want to do is open source. If I download an open-source anything to a modern Linux, it just works. This stuff is mostly being developed on Linux these days. On Solaris, I'd expect this to be more dificult.
Maybe I'm looking at too old a version, but it just seems lame.
now that makes sense...
SCO has never shown what the code is. They have named broadly a few features - SMP being one and one of more journaling filesystems as being onother - saying that these had to come from IBM. So information that SCaldera's own people put it in, with managment approval is very relevant.
The really funny thing is: what if someone working for Caldera (now SCO) did illegally put SCO-owned code in - but when they were Caldrera, not SCO, and so didn't have the right. Now, they are SCOG and must sue themselves (or their former selves at any rate).
It was bound to happen eventually, if only by random chance - as much as they talk, sooner or later they were bound to say something true.
Maybe, but I still think the appeals court had to be bought and paid for. After all, Judge Jackson's remarks were made AFTER he'd witnessed blatant bullshit on MS's part. At that point, sayiing that MS are a bunch of lying fucks is not bias - it's just a statement of fact.
Moron. You've got it 100% backwards - Boise was on the DOJ teanm for that one.
The verdict was overturned, and Gates won .
The verdict was NOT overturned. Only an idiot would say that. All findings of fact that Microsft broke anti-trust law remain in effect. What was overturned was the penalty that was originally prescribed. To that extent, Gates did win, tragically.What needs to happen is that the corporate veil is shredded and burnt and the appropriate penalty is applied to the individuals who did the deed. Ken Lay would be drowned in shit. Ditto Darl McBride.
What company? If the lawsuit fails, SCO is roadkill.
...for anyone who buys anything as the result of receiving spam. Anyone that fucking stupid doesn't deserve to live.
Rekall is ONLY the frontend part. It has no internal DB, but interfaces to mysql, db2 postgresql and others. So you r issues with design still hold, but this one atleast doesn't apply to a rekall
Yes, everyone who's upset about exploits they haven't heard about, raise their hands...
Again, I'm not just talking out my ass here, I've lived through that entire cycle, and in recent memory.
Again, the question is HOW did this happen? Ketoacidosis doesn't happen by itself. Were you a diabetic with poorly controlled blood sugar? If so, current thinking is that chronic hyperglycemia causes kidney damage, while the lack of insulin that caused the hyperglycemia also leads to ketoacidosis. I am not a doctor or a chemist, but I am a type 2 diabetic who has had good results on all tests (including liver and kidney tests, as well the A1c and blood fat profiles) when following a limited carb regime and exercising.
Do you have any understanding of what a ketone is?
There's really no such thing as a good or safe level of ketones in your system,
Right, so the instant you run out of carbohydrates in the digestion pipeline, you immediately lpase into a profoundly unhealty state? Nice try, but fat and its use evolved as a backup energy storage mechanism.
Artificially seeking to boost this (thus lowering the pH of your blood, again this is basic chem), is really dangerous.
Why does everybody think it's so easy to change the PH of your blood? The body resists this mightily.
In the 70s tape worms were considered a valid way to diet
Which has nothing at all to do with the current arument. Your attempt to drag this crap in is a complete red herring.
How about understanding that there is more than one corcumstance that will cause ketosis and they are not equal:
- Serious diabetes: No insulin in the blood, so glucose can't be used, so the body (starved for energy) frantically turns fat into ketones, but these are also ill used in the absence of insulin. Kidneys are probably ALREADY damaged by years of high blood sugars before this ever happens, as high glucose by itself is enough to damage kidneys.
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Low carb diet: in the absence of enogugh carbs to meet all energy needs, the body turns fat into ketones which are then used for some energy needs. So far, no study that I've heard of has demonstrated that this form of ketosis harms kidneys. liver or anything else.
But if you're really concerned, you can go to your doctor every 3 to 6 months and get a workup for liver and kidney function. Typically these are unchanged or improve for people who limit carbohydrates, especially if they are doing so to address diabete.Me enemy's enemy's friend's enemy's friend is .. oh shit, I give up.
Then explain the rise in SCO stock.
not only are there vastly more Microsoft exploits reported, but that the exploits tend to be much more severe, involving remote administrator access."
And most MS patches require a reboot after patching, making mass patching of production servers an agonizing experinece. Most of the Linux vulns are in programs where you just replace the progam files and maybe stop and restart a service.
Why didn't the story mention that this is the fool Enderle? I don't even bother to read his stuff anymore, he's so full of shit.
He lost his gig as an "analyst" with giga for writing in public that he is just someone whose opinion is for sale. Now all he can do is stir up shit to grovel for eyeballs.
Don't give adverstisers your eyeballs for this one.
Enderle is so far over the top that even PHBs (I hope) will see this for the nonsense it is.
Loose: Linux can't obviously not contain any SCO IP, because it's not business ready. SCO's lawsuit will collapse.
Any chance of saying that in english? The triple negative is confusing and the second sentence doesn't seem to flow from any reasonabler interpretation of the first. And "loose" is an adjective meaning approximately the "opposite of tight".
If you're mensa, I'm donald duck.