1) why do we keep seeing science like this. [nationalgeographic.com]
If global warming is real, shouldnt this information be debunked as false?
Did you even read that??? They themselves clearly state, that its global warming that could cause it!
2) Or this (from a link below btw):
Reports in the late 1980s found the amount of sunlight reaching the planet's surface had declined by 4 to 6 percent since 1960. Suddenly, around 1990, that appears to have reversed.
"When we looked at the more recent data, lo and behold, the trend went the other way," said Charles Long, senior scientist at the Department of Energy's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory.
Not sure I understand the question.
3) Is global warming necessarily bad? If the earth getting warmer, that means more areas, such as Canada could have longer growing seasons which would produce more food for the world. Ok sure some coastly areas might get flooded. Is that bad? Is it possible that the fish would have more environment to live in and therefore better thrive? And is a 4" rise in the ocean really even noticable? A warmer environment would mean a growth in plant life, in general. Isn't that a good thing since plants are known to remove CO2 from the air?
Irrelevent to the discussion of if its happening and why. However, keep in mind the places the places on earth where there is the least food (most starvation) is already MUCH warmer than Canada. Its not a simple as saying "warmer means more food grows".
4) The sun is geting warmer. It is affected other planets, most recently noted on Mars. Can we even theorectically counter the effects of the sun? The sun is huge and powerful. We cannot realistic predict let alone counter the effects of a warmer sun. Certainly something to look at (and many already are). The question here I'd ask is, if we assume the sun is getting warmer and we know CO2 (and other byproducts) keep the suns warmth in and magnify its effects do we just say "OK its the suns fault" and then ignore our own actions which are further exagerating the problem?
Now I'm just a computer programmer so I don't know crap about what is actually going on here and sadly both the orginal article and this debunking one really add no value (though I can understand its need to attempt to set the record stright for joe sixpack). This can only be "decided" by a consensious amoung experts in the field through peer-review.
In my mind the thing which most makes me believe there really is an issue is (much like the "intelligent design" movement) the amount of money being spent to create studies, etc to debunk global warming which are never submitted to peer-reivew. Instead they are published in thier own brand-new own publications or are just submitted directly to the press or as editorials. It seems like WAY too much money is spent on a PR campaign when if they truely believed thier arguements and science they would be bringing forward the arguements in a scientific manner (through peer-review journals, etc).
there are two ways you can do it. One is to include all of the old stuff in your new OS, the other is to continue to support the old version
At the risk of stating the obvious, continuing support for an old product has nothing to do with backwards compatibility. Now obviously, you can continue to work on old systems to keep something running but that is no way related to backward compatibility.
That would be like MS advertising:
The Xbox 360 as 100% backward compatible with every game ever made *
* - most of those previous games will require you to purchase the console they were originally released for
No real point to this post, just thought it was funny how you complain Vista won't run on your 133 MHz pentium and on the very next line complain that they need "give up on their ridiculous supporting-every-piece-of-hardware-from-the-last-d ecade legacy mentality";-)
I realize your original comment may not have been meant as a complaint, but wasn't sure so just used that word. Feel free to substitute, "comment", etc in its place if more fitting.
As a believer in liberty, limited government, and rule of law, I'm no fan of the Democrats.
Thats exactly, why I am a fan of the Democrats. Not that they always get it 100% right on those counts, but at much better than the otherside. Its basically one of those "the enemy of enemy is my friend" deals.
I say this as an ex-Republican who had to leave the party after they went bat shit crazy and decided to start doing exactly what they are supposed to be against.
The Republicans owned all three branches of the government--House, Senate & Presidential seat.
Sorry for being picky, BUT the three braches of government are the Executive (president), Legislative (house and senate combined), and the Judiciary (the courts). The House and Senate are NOT seperate branches.
Agreeing to licence "IP" from Microsoft just gives legitimacy to any claims they are going to pursue against other Linux vendors/developers.
I may well be wrong, but I don't remember there being any "licensing" in this deal. MS has specifically said many times that it won't/cannot license any of its IP to ANY Linux distro because of issues with GPL. They are just promising not to sue Novell or its customers for any of its IP found in Linux. Same end result for Novell basically, but very different from a legal/licensing perspective.
The calls begin with : "I'm calling with information about [democratic candidate]." Peronally, I would also hang up here - but I certainly wouldn't make any assumption at this point as to whether or not the call supports or attack that Democratic candidate.
After getting enough calls like "I'm calling about alluminum siding...", "I'm calling about xxx insurance...", you tend to assume whoever is named right away is who its from. I've never gotten a call like, "I'm calling about aluminum siding... " and its actually those pesky wood siding people. Plus isn't it actually federal law that any exempted do-not-call list calls must list the person/company its from at the beginning of the call? It sure seems like its designed to do what the summary says, but thats just based on my experience and how I know I'd take it.
Well, sure since the ipod has been released and has such spec sheets its easy to see its a bunch of crap to suggest they don't include them because there are seperate "packs" which also include them. My point is how stupid it is to assume the zune won't because it also has seperate "packs". In the entire consumer electronics market is there ANYTHING which doesn't have seperate assesory packs (which often include the same items which came with the product)?
Here are the steps required to see the "evidence" of seperate assesories and come to the conclusion those items won't also be included in the base product.
1) Go to a mind wiper and get them to remove any piece of information or memory you have about this market.
2) Chug a few pints of the strongest booze you can find while standing on your head.
3) Get up and spin around as fast as you can until you fall over.
At that point, the argrument MIGHT make some sense to you;-)
I have no idea what will or won't be included with the zune because I just don't care about those product enough to find out even if the info is available pre-launch, but even I can see the logic for stating they "must not be" because someone is advertising an assesory pack is more than a little dim.
Not too much of a conspiracy theorist, but how do you get "the article implies that it was one machine in particular"? Here is a direct quote:
Broward Supervisor of Elections spokeswoman Mary Cooney said it's not uncommon for screens on heavily used machines to slip out of sync, making votes register incorrectly. also In Miami-Dade, two machines have been taken out of service during early voting. No votes were lost, Sola said.
Now here are the cases the article specifically talks about:
1) Debra A. Reed voted with her boss on Wednesday at African-American Research Library and Cultural Center near Fort Lauderdale. Her vote went smoothly, but boss Gary Rudolf called her over to look at what was happening on his machine. He touched the screen for gubernatorial candidate Jim Davis, a Democrat, but the review screen repeatedly registered the Republican, Charlie Crist.
2) Joan Marek, 60, a Democrat from Hollywood, was also stunned to see Charlie Crist on her ballot review page after voting on Thursday. ''Am I on the voting screen again?'' she wondered. ``Well, this is too weird.''
3) Mauricio Raponi wanted to vote for Democrats across the board at the Lemon City Library in Miami on Thursday. But each time he hit the button next to the candidate, the Republican choice showed up. Raponi, 53, persevered until the machine worked. Then he alerted a poll worker.
So besides the "its common", etc they also specifically talk about three specific cases in three seperate cities. Unless, that one machine is really making the rounds I don't see how it could be just one.
Quick question... without an OS how exactly are you planning to have the browser interact with hardware like... I don't know... maybe the network card so it can access the "server" to runs its OS?
Since controlling low level hardware communitcations like this is what the OS does, I guess we can just rename the "OS" to the "browser". If thats the case does that mean MS was right all along and the browser really does belong in the OS?;-)
I agree it should be able to install without reboot, but it seems the reboot isn't simply because of the rendering engine. From my install it seems upon reboot it freezes out my VPN client service and anti-virus/anti-malware apps until the install completes. Asking a user to close a "normal" application is practical (and what they usually do), but if for whatever reason these services (vpn, anti-virus, etc) can cause the install to fail, then thier method probably does make the most senese. Asking your average user to go disable specific system services probably isn't very practical. Now ideally, the installer would know specifically what services can cause issues and auto-stop and restart them, but with the vast amount of applications possibly running including custom services they have no way to know about thier method of restarting basically in a "safe mode" where all but the required services are blocked is certainly the safest way to make sure the install will work.
Not saying it the best way or even the proper way, but compared with teaching users to find and stop all the possible services that could cause an issue it is probably the most practical way (though I do hate the forced reboot).
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Agree with all you are saying, just thought I'd point out:
Even my five-year-old TiVo has dual tuners, and it's not you can't get a dual-tuner component for less than $70.
You linked to the 150 model which also only has one tuner. Here is the 500 model which has dual tuner support.
You're saying that instead of reporting openly and honestly, to the best of their current knowledge and ability...... Scientists should pick and choose the information and interpretations they publish
That's not what I read his post as saying at all. In fact it seems quite the opposite. He is argueing they should only use thier best current knowledge and ability, not try to guess at what "some future innovation" might help of when.
Besides all that, doesn't this study already consider future innovation in the only real way possible? They say they are using a projection of consumption. To come to that projection, presumably they have to look at what consumption has been over a period of time. Assuming there has been some innovation during that period, it considered into the net change in cosumption and thus will effect the projections accordingly. Short of taking the VERY unscientific approach of just assuming a "silver bullet" will arise soon, I don't know how else you can include future innovation.
Say they look at trends in consumption from 1950 (I haven't taken the time to read the stuff they are siting to know the actual period). Obviously, there have been many innovations which have helped reduce consumption. Those innovations will automatically lower the consumption projections. The main issue is as history shows over the last 100 years even with all the innovations which have occurred, out thirst for oil has ALWAYS far outpaced any innovations to make our use of it more efficient. Thus even though we are making FAR more effiecent use of oil say today than 75-50 years ago, we are none the less still using WAY more oil than 75-50 years ago.
They fucking love us. They fucking love McDonald's, and they love MTV, and Levis.
Crap! I've own TONS of stuff made in China! Does that mean I love thier government? I also use WAY too much petrol!!! Does that also mean I love and support those countries it comes from?!?!?
Sorry, there must be some confusion. The product being discussed isn't ours. Its just a product we use because it meets our security/regulatory needs. Again we are an off-shore hedge fund. We are NOT a technology vendor of any kind. People give us money we get them amazing returns on that money, thats it.
Don't worry we don't have much of a website. As I've said before its an off-shore hedge fund. By regulation me aren't allowed to accept investments of under 100,000 and the investor must have at least 1 million in liquid assets so I'm guessing you couldn't do much anyway.
So, your company is not at all interested in supporting Linux.
Absolutely NOT! We have no interest in supporting ANY technology! We look for technology that can best suppurot US. I realize that is just horrible, but our business is to make money. Outside of work we support tons of worthwhile charities however, Linux isn't one of those charities (if that makes us evil than it is what it is). We do have linux in our organization, but just where it gives us the greatest advantages (not on the desktop).
The 10s of billion of dollars our less than 100 person office makes in profit every year is certainly a testiment to our stupidity
Wow! I've drank WAY too much tonight;-) 10s of billions in profit is way off, but now that I read that I realize I shouldn't be giving out these numers;-) Suffice to say, we make plenty to hire the top talent in every field we deal with. I must go pass out now;-)
More windows only shit networking device......If this is a good idea than people you work with must be complete idots....
Hey jack-ass! Guess what, we require windows for many of our applications! Yes, they are idiots. Those in charge of our IT are complete morons and among them just happen to be two people who have won the Fields Medal. You probably don't even know what that is, but trust me only "idots" get them.
Listen. I like Lixux and its great on many of our servers. Sadly our business is just another area where the applications aren't there. The 10s of billion of dollars our less than 100 person office makes in profit every year is certainly a testiment to our stupidity so I'll certainly pass your suggestion on that we need to support things we don't support so we aren't "idots" (what does that word mean BTW?), but I'm guessing our business needs might trump your lovely suggestion. Thanks for offering it though!
True. I guess if the pc had a key logger installed they could capture key strokes but still couldn't access any important data (besides the keystrokes). Worst case scenerio, they'd capture the password for the mobikey access (which is different than the users network access password). But if there happened to be a key logger and the employee happened to forget the MobiKey in the computer and also managed to capture the network login/password (which is changed every 30 days) they could login to the station. They still couldn't at least directly copy data but they could perhaps email data to themselves else where. We have file audits to track this, but it certainly would be a problem. However, all those scenerios coming together are EXTEMELY unlikely. There is only so much you can do to protect users from themselves and thus far this is the best we can find.
Check this out. We are just now going through our final eval, but thus far all has been great. We've verified that in fact it only uses the 3rd party to create the secure connection and then is in effect a secure VPN tunnel. In fact thus far in our audit its FAR more secure than a laptop. With your basic VPN client software there is nothing to stop you from coping remote files/data to your local machine. Besides the issue of losing a laptop, in our business (off-shore hedge funds) its extremely critical that our data doesn't leave our off-shore locations (doesn't matter if you lose the laptop or not). This solution creates a tunnel and basically runs remotely on the remote host so its actually not possible to bring any data to the remote location.
We've been seeing many subpar solutions, but so far this seems like its as good as advertised if not better.
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1) why do we keep seeing science like this. [nationalgeographic.com] If global warming is real, shouldnt this information be debunked as false?
Did you even read that??? They themselves clearly state, that its global warming that could cause it!
2) Or this (from a link below btw): Reports in the late 1980s found the amount of sunlight reaching the planet's surface had declined by 4 to 6 percent since 1960. Suddenly, around 1990, that appears to have reversed. "When we looked at the more recent data, lo and behold, the trend went the other way," said Charles Long, senior scientist at the Department of Energy's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory.
Not sure I understand the question.
3) Is global warming necessarily bad? If the earth getting warmer, that means more areas, such as Canada could have longer growing seasons which would produce more food for the world. Ok sure some coastly areas might get flooded. Is that bad? Is it possible that the fish would have more environment to live in and therefore better thrive? And is a 4" rise in the ocean really even noticable? A warmer environment would mean a growth in plant life, in general. Isn't that a good thing since plants are known to remove CO2 from the air?
Irrelevent to the discussion of if its happening and why. However, keep in mind the places the places on earth where there is the least food (most starvation) is already MUCH warmer than Canada. Its not a simple as saying "warmer means more food grows".
4) The sun is geting warmer. It is affected other planets, most recently noted on Mars. Can we even theorectically counter the effects of the sun? The sun is huge and powerful. We cannot realistic predict let alone counter the effects of a warmer sun. Certainly something to look at (and many already are). The question here I'd ask is, if we assume the sun is getting warmer and we know CO2 (and other byproducts) keep the suns warmth in and magnify its effects do we just say "OK its the suns fault" and then ignore our own actions which are further exagerating the problem?
Now I'm just a computer programmer so I don't know crap about what is actually going on here and sadly both the orginal article and this debunking one really add no value (though I can understand its need to attempt to set the record stright for joe sixpack). This can only be "decided" by a consensious amoung experts in the field through peer-review.
In my mind the thing which most makes me believe there really is an issue is (much like the "intelligent design" movement) the amount of money being spent to create studies, etc to debunk global warming which are never submitted to peer-reivew. Instead they are published in thier own brand-new own publications or are just submitted directly to the press or as editorials. It seems like WAY too much money is spent on a PR campaign when if they truely believed thier arguements and science they would be bringing forward the arguements in a scientific manner (through peer-review journals, etc).
there are two ways you can do it. One is to include all of the old stuff in your new OS, the other is to continue to support the old version
At the risk of stating the obvious, continuing support for an old product has nothing to do with backwards compatibility. Now obviously, you can continue to work on old systems to keep something running but that is no way related to backward compatibility.
That would be like MS advertising:
The Xbox 360 as 100% backward compatible with every game ever made *
* - most of those previous games will require you to purchase the console they were originally released for
That is NOT backward compatibility!
I remember changing sounds in Win 3.1
No real point to this post, just thought it was funny how you complain Vista won't run on your 133 MHz pentium and on the very next line complain that they need "give up on their ridiculous supporting-every-piece-of-hardware-from-the-last-d ecade legacy mentality" ;-)
I realize your original comment may not have been meant as a complaint, but wasn't sure so just used that word. Feel free to substitute, "comment", etc in its place if more fitting.
It doesn't have to make sense, but here is CNN's coverage of it.
As a believer in liberty, limited government, and rule of law, I'm no fan of the Democrats.
Thats exactly, why I am a fan of the Democrats. Not that they always get it 100% right on those counts, but at much better than the otherside. Its basically one of those "the enemy of enemy is my friend" deals.
I say this as an ex-Republican who had to leave the party after they went bat shit crazy and decided to start doing exactly what they are supposed to be against.
The Republicans owned all three branches of the government--House, Senate & Presidential seat.
Sorry for being picky, BUT the three braches of government are the Executive (president), Legislative (house and senate combined), and the Judiciary (the courts). The House and Senate are NOT seperate branches.
Agreeing to licence "IP" from Microsoft just gives legitimacy to any claims they are going to pursue against other Linux vendors/developers.
I may well be wrong, but I don't remember there being any "licensing" in this deal. MS has specifically said many times that it won't/cannot license any of its IP to ANY Linux distro because of issues with GPL. They are just promising not to sue Novell or its customers for any of its IP found in Linux. Same end result for Novell basically, but very different from a legal/licensing perspective.
The calls begin with : "I'm calling with information about [democratic candidate]." Peronally, I would also hang up here - but I certainly wouldn't make any assumption at this point as to whether or not the call supports or attack that Democratic candidate.
...", you tend to assume whoever is named right away is who its from. I've never gotten a call like, "I'm calling about aluminum siding... " and its actually those pesky wood siding people. Plus isn't it actually federal law that any exempted do-not-call list calls must list the person/company its from at the beginning of the call? It sure seems like its designed to do what the summary says, but thats just based on my experience and how I know I'd take it.
After getting enough calls like "I'm calling about alluminum siding...", "I'm calling about xxx insurance
Well, sure since the ipod has been released and has such spec sheets its easy to see its a bunch of crap to suggest they don't include them because there are seperate "packs" which also include them. My point is how stupid it is to assume the zune won't because it also has seperate "packs". In the entire consumer electronics market is there ANYTHING which doesn't have seperate assesory packs (which often include the same items which came with the product)?
;-)
Here are the steps required to see the "evidence" of seperate assesories and come to the conclusion those items won't also be included in the base product.
1) Go to a mind wiper and get them to remove any piece of information or memory you have about this market.
2) Chug a few pints of the strongest booze you can find while standing on your head.
3) Get up and spin around as fast as you can until you fall over.
At that point, the argrument MIGHT make some sense to you
I have no idea what will or won't be included with the zune because I just don't care about those product enough to find out even if the info is available pre-launch, but even I can see the logic for stating they "must not be" because someone is advertising an assesory pack is more than a little dim.
In that case, does this page mean surely the ipod doesn't include earphones or charger? I mean if they are selling them as part of a seperate pack surely its because its not already included right?
Not too much of a conspiracy theorist, but how do you get "the article implies that it was one machine in particular"? Here is a direct quote:
Broward Supervisor of Elections spokeswoman Mary Cooney said it's not uncommon for screens on heavily used machines to slip out of sync, making votes register incorrectly.
also
In Miami-Dade, two machines have been taken out of service during early voting. No votes were lost, Sola said.
Now here are the cases the article specifically talks about:
1) Debra A. Reed voted with her boss on Wednesday at African-American Research Library and Cultural Center near Fort Lauderdale. Her vote went smoothly, but boss Gary Rudolf called her over to look at what was happening on his machine. He touched the screen for gubernatorial candidate Jim Davis, a Democrat, but the review screen repeatedly registered the Republican, Charlie Crist.
2) Joan Marek, 60, a Democrat from Hollywood, was also stunned to see Charlie Crist on her ballot review page after voting on Thursday. ''Am I on the voting screen again?'' she wondered. ``Well, this is too weird.''
3) Mauricio Raponi wanted to vote for Democrats across the board at the Lemon City Library in Miami on Thursday. But each time he hit the button next to the candidate, the Republican choice showed up. Raponi, 53, persevered until the machine worked. Then he alerted a poll worker.
So besides the "its common", etc they also specifically talk about three specific cases in three seperate cities. Unless, that one machine is really making the rounds I don't see how it could be just one.
Quick question... without an OS how exactly are you planning to have the browser interact with hardware like... I don't know... maybe the network card so it can access the "server" to runs its OS?
;-)
Since controlling low level hardware communitcations like this is what the OS does, I guess we can just rename the "OS" to the "browser". If thats the case does that mean MS was right all along and the browser really does belong in the OS?
I agree it should be able to install without reboot, but it seems the reboot isn't simply because of the rendering engine. From my install it seems upon reboot it freezes out my VPN client service and anti-virus/anti-malware apps until the install completes. Asking a user to close a "normal" application is practical (and what they usually do), but if for whatever reason these services (vpn, anti-virus, etc) can cause the install to fail, then thier method probably does make the most senese. Asking your average user to go disable specific system services probably isn't very practical. Now ideally, the installer would know specifically what services can cause issues and auto-stop and restart them, but with the vast amount of applications possibly running including custom services they have no way to know about thier method of restarting basically in a "safe mode" where all but the required services are blocked is certainly the safest way to make sure the install will work.
Not saying it the best way or even the proper way, but compared with teaching users to find and stop all the possible services that could cause an issue it is probably the most practical way (though I do hate the forced reboot).
Agree with all you are saying, just thought I'd point out:
Even my five-year-old TiVo has dual tuners, and it's not you can't get a dual-tuner component for less than $70.
You linked to the 150 model which also only has one tuner. Here is the 500 model which has dual tuner support.
But then they'd get sued by security vendors for ruining thier market.
Here is at least one completed and seems sucessful acution for a PS3 for $1,250.
You're saying that instead of reporting openly and honestly, to the best of their current knowledge and ability... ... Scientists should pick and choose the information and interpretations they publish
That's not what I read his post as saying at all. In fact it seems quite the opposite. He is argueing they should only use thier best current knowledge and ability, not try to guess at what "some future innovation" might help of when.
Besides all that, doesn't this study already consider future innovation in the only real way possible? They say they are using a projection of consumption. To come to that projection, presumably they have to look at what consumption has been over a period of time. Assuming there has been some innovation during that period, it considered into the net change in cosumption and thus will effect the projections accordingly. Short of taking the VERY unscientific approach of just assuming a "silver bullet" will arise soon, I don't know how else you can include future innovation.
Say they look at trends in consumption from 1950 (I haven't taken the time to read the stuff they are siting to know the actual period). Obviously, there have been many innovations which have helped reduce consumption. Those innovations will automatically lower the consumption projections. The main issue is as history shows over the last 100 years even with all the innovations which have occurred, out thirst for oil has ALWAYS far outpaced any innovations to make our use of it more efficient. Thus even though we are making FAR more effiecent use of oil say today than 75-50 years ago, we are none the less still using WAY more oil than 75-50 years ago.
They fucking love us. They fucking love McDonald's, and they love MTV, and Levis.
Crap! I've own TONS of stuff made in China! Does that mean I love thier government? I also use WAY too much petrol!!! Does that also mean I love and support those countries it comes from?!?!?
Sorry, there must be some confusion. The product being discussed isn't ours. Its just a product we use because it meets our security/regulatory needs. Again we are an off-shore hedge fund. We are NOT a technology vendor of any kind. People give us money we get them amazing returns on that money, thats it.
Don't worry we don't have much of a website. As I've said before its an off-shore hedge fund. By regulation me aren't allowed to accept investments of under 100,000 and the investor must have at least 1 million in liquid assets so I'm guessing you couldn't do much anyway.
So, your company is not at all interested in supporting Linux.
Absolutely NOT! We have no interest in supporting ANY technology! We look for technology that can best suppurot US. I realize that is just horrible, but our business is to make money. Outside of work we support tons of worthwhile charities however, Linux isn't one of those charities (if that makes us evil than it is what it is). We do have linux in our organization, but just where it gives us the greatest advantages (not on the desktop).
The 10s of billion of dollars our less than 100 person office makes in profit every year is certainly a testiment to our stupidity
;-) 10s of billions in profit is way off, but now that I read that I realize I shouldn't be giving out these numers ;-) Suffice to say, we make plenty to hire the top talent in every field we deal with. I must go pass out now ;-)
Wow! I've drank WAY too much tonight
More windows only shit networking device......If this is a good idea than people you work with must be complete idots....
Hey jack-ass! Guess what, we require windows for many of our applications! Yes, they are idiots. Those in charge of our IT are complete morons and among them just happen to be two people who have won the Fields Medal. You probably don't even know what that is, but trust me only "idots" get them.
Listen. I like Lixux and its great on many of our servers. Sadly our business is just another area where the applications aren't there. The 10s of billion of dollars our less than 100 person office makes in profit every year is certainly a testiment to our stupidity so I'll certainly pass your suggestion on that we need to support things we don't support so we aren't "idots" (what does that word mean BTW?), but I'm guessing our business needs might trump your lovely suggestion. Thanks for offering it though!
True. I guess if the pc had a key logger installed they could capture key strokes but still couldn't access any important data (besides the keystrokes). Worst case scenerio, they'd capture the password for the mobikey access (which is different than the users network access password). But if there happened to be a key logger and the employee happened to forget the MobiKey in the computer and also managed to capture the network login/password (which is changed every 30 days) they could login to the station. They still couldn't at least directly copy data but they could perhaps email data to themselves else where. We have file audits to track this, but it certainly would be a problem. However, all those scenerios coming together are EXTEMELY unlikely. There is only so much you can do to protect users from themselves and thus far this is the best we can find.
Check this out. We are just now going through our final eval, but thus far all has been great. We've verified that in fact it only uses the 3rd party to create the secure connection and then is in effect a secure VPN tunnel. In fact thus far in our audit its FAR more secure than a laptop. With your basic VPN client software there is nothing to stop you from coping remote files/data to your local machine. Besides the issue of losing a laptop, in our business (off-shore hedge funds) its extremely critical that our data doesn't leave our off-shore locations (doesn't matter if you lose the laptop or not). This solution creates a tunnel and basically runs remotely on the remote host so its actually not possible to bring any data to the remote location.
We've been seeing many subpar solutions, but so far this seems like its as good as advertised if not better.