The end result is incompatibility until the Nvidia gets around to simply re-compiling the module with gcc3.2 (or you're technical enough to know to how to use the --force option with insmod, and are willing to take the risk it breaks something)
Just download the.tar.gz files like everyone else and type "make; make install;" They work fine.
The *really* retarded thing about Red Hat 8.0 and nvidia cards is the way the Red Hat installer chooses the vesa driver for your $400 GF 4.
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Me, I think specialization is for insects, but that's me. Your milage may vary.
Rubbish. Specialization is for specific cases in a templated function.
Not infinite, there has to be some upper bound proportional to the population.
Well, if someone has a pirated copy then all their descendents, and their descendents' descendents and so on have access to that pirated material as well, thus robbing the RIAA of income for an infinite succession of generations.
What's more, it's uncountably infinite.
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Many of the "asylum seekers" are in fact economic refugees that paid large amounts of money to get here.
Sure. People with large amounts of money to spend are likely to pay for passage on an overcrowded boat with a non trivial chance of sinking when they can afford to pay for plane tickets and visas.
What is the alternative to detention? Release into the community as long as they promise to come back when we reject the claims? Oh wait, 14,000 of them didn't come back when their claims were rejectd... source: yesterday's "The Australian".
No, the source is the immigration department. The Australian article also notes that:
"In September 1997, Philip Ruddock's office had said in response to a question on notice from Democrats senator Natasha Stott Despoja: 'No unauthorised asylum-seeker released on a bridging visa in Australia from 1996 to 1998 failed to meet their reporting obligations.'"
And it also points out that "The executive officer of the Catholic Commission for Justice Development and Peace, Marc Purcell, described the latest figures as 'wildly inaccurate', and demanded that the department clarify them."
Howard's government are liars. Remember "children overboard?" You are a fool if you believe that was an honest mistake.
If you were really a proud Australian you would not put up with the disgraceful behaviour of our "leaders."
The ALP's plan is good, 90% processed with 90 days
It is good, but how practical is it? Currently it takes up to 18 months to process some cases, but it is inhuman to detain people for that long. The alternatives are release on temporary visas, or temporary housing in open compounds where they may be visited by relatives, work and contribute to the community.
Only people that are in genuine need should be able to enjoy Australia's hospitality.
Hospitality? How about the sickening rocks and petrol bombs thrown at mosques and islamic primary schools? The taunts that Muslim women wearing burkhas endure? What sort of hospitality is that supposed to be?
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we lock our OS refugees up in camps for years on end. And they're not refugees, they're "illegal immigrants".
Hell yeah. Besides the two goals are not incompatible. Reputable sources have stated that Osama bin Laden is in fact hiding out in a bunker on the moon. So EVERYONE would be happy.
I ride my bike every day, and you're telling me I can get money for it?
I am wary of handing my bank details out over the internet, so if you are genuine please contact Mr.Abiola Williams at the Bank of Nigeria. He has all my account numbers.
103 should be 10^3 and 106 should be 10^6 Wtf is with not allowing the <sup> tag?
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I have to wonder what type of redundancy and error correction will have to be built into quantum computing.
Lots and lots. In 1995 Peter Shor (the factoring guy) and Robert Calderbank devised that possiblethe first error correcting code for quantum computers. Many others have been designed, including proposals for some that operate as a natural consequence of the system being used. Here is a good survey of the field.
It has been shown that if the error rate is below a certain threshold (currently estimated to be one error per 103 operations for optimists, and one per 106 per pessimists) then efficient error corrected quantum computation is possible. The pessimistic estimate is well above what is currently possible experimentally in quantum systems but the problem seems to be an engineering one, not a fundamental one. It should eventually be possible with clever implementations of qubits, shielding and cooling to near absolute zero.
Most people don't realize that a quantum computer can't function by itself, i.e. it needs a traditional "front-end". This is mostly due to the fact that quantum circuits can't form cycles, and in order to have a Turing-complete system you need at least 3 loops on top of each other.
What the hell are you talking about. Although it will undoubtably more practical to use a classical computer to run one of the current envisions of a quantum one, that doesn't mean the classical one is required. Quantum computers include classical computers as a subset.
Will quantum computing make using database table indexes obsolete? ie. will the time saved by using an index be small enough that it's not worth the effort to create/maintain one (for most uses)?
No. Grover's quantum search algorithm searches an unindexed database with N entries in O(sqrt(N)) time. It says nothing about indexed databases which can be accessed in O(log(N)) time using classical computers.
Get over yourself. security, cost, and "work as well" are not inherent characteristics of any method of managing who gets to look at source code.
This sentence is grammatically nonsensical. Are you saying that no manager who considers open-source code can claim to be concerned about security,cost and reliability? Weird.
Open Source does NOT equate better security. Never think so, never say so, never tell anyone this again. It's pure bullshit.
Of course open source doesn't necessarily mean better security - there is no reason why proprietry code should be less secure. In practice though it is. It might because open source coders love what they're doing and invest lots of effort into writing good code whereas someone working to a deadline just gets something out the door. And there is the tired old line that more eyes pick up more mistakes. It's tired but it's true. Most security advisories on open source products describe potential buffer overflows etc caught by someone reading the source, and a fix is available immediately. The first people hear about many microsoft holes is a worm running all over the net.
Security is a disciplined mindset... Free software is free if you don't value your time.
The time spent configuring and understanding "free" software is extremely worthwhile if you want to be disciplined about security. If you learn about Apache, then you gain valuable knowledge about how the web functions and where its vulnerabilities are.
How's that open source sound coming along in linux these days ?
Very well thank you. I believe Alsa is being merged into kernel 2.6 or maybe earlier.
We complain about Hollywood and MPAA fatcats, the fatcats who pump out the same derivative drivel year in year out with the single goal of making money.
LOTR is not a Hollywood movie. It was made by people with a genuine love of Tolkien. So stop babbling formulaic counter-counter-culture cliches. Honestly.
When I did a network install of my gateway last year I used a static IP address since dhcp didn't work for whatever reason. I then forgot to change it afterwards.
Living in a share household bills sometimes went unpaid and Optus@Home 'disconnected' our service, meaning they disabled the dhcp account. We continued to get internet access for the next 6 months until someone finally tweaked that we hadn't got any bills for a while and called Optus. Boy were they mad, but at least we only got billed for the 6 months (honesty is not always the best policy kiddies).
All this crap, same with uncapping modems, could easily be prevented by the ISPs. If it's such a huge problem for them, why don't they take steps to prevent it happening? Insurance companies wont pay up if you forget to lock your car and it gets stolen...
Consciousness appears to be related to only a very little of what we do on a regular basis.
Well, yes. In the literature they are known as the subconscious and the unconscious.
If you simply observe you will notice that the sort of things the subconscious is capable of do not belong to the world of cause and effect, which is all science is currently equipped to study. I am a physicist so I should know.
The short reply to your assertion is, however, that the only way we will ever understand the functioning of the "brain" and the rest of the related nervous system is to break it down into little parts, i.e. trivialize it.
This will give us an understanding of parts of the brain, not necessarily of the brain itself. There might be a big difference.
Also, the way it stands, if I want to share my X apps with my Windows friends, I have to get them to either 1) Pay a lot for a decent X server for Windows (by decent, I mean that it doesn't put all X connections inside one Window with a fixed size, but rather creates Windows each time a call is made - unlike Cywgin xfree86). 2) Download, install and configure xfree86 with cygwin (assuming they've got the 200MB free for it). By the way, I know there is a version that is supposed to work without cygwin. It doesn't work yet, at least not right out of the box, and not with any instructions they give you. 3) Get them to use a non-windowing solution, i.e. VNC.
Check out WinaXe. The trial version can be run for half an hour - then you just need to rerun it. It's a 12MB download, a no-brain installation and it works comfortably well. Hell, i run mozilla mail with it.
Linux needs something like DirectX to succeed. Whether or not it is OpenGL is not crucial. The problem with OpenGL is it doesn't keep up with the features of new cards the way DirectX does.
Not many games keep up with the features of new cards, so OpenGL doesn't have to be bleeding edge to run them. The reason there aren't that many games for linux isn't that OpenGL is dated.
Besides, most good games offer both OpenGL and Direct3D renderers. The rendering is only a small part of a 3D game and it is not that difficult to provide alternative renderers. And frankly, who cares if "Sunny Garcias Pro Surfing" runs on linux or not.
The smart thing to do would be to mimick DirectX as much as possible, make it easier for a PC game developer using DirectX to port their game over to Linux.
Dear god please no. The goal of OpenGL should be to provide an excellent api for realtime 3d programming, not to mimic Direct3d. If any Direct3d programmer understands 3d concepts well enough, porting to OpenGL should present no difficulty whatsoever. And vice versa.
crashing every few map switches is a guaranteed way to kill off a game.
A game that was that bad would never take off in the first place. The "UE errors" (which were never a problem on linux anyway) became far less frequent after the second patch, and my brother's stopped completely after he stuck a bigger fan on his video card.
Was a f-cking awesome FPS with RTS components. Playing in a clan battle with organised and practice offense and defense was unbeatable. It wasn't exactly the most technically brilliant engine but it worked well on good enough hardware.
Unfortunately it is dead, at least in Australia. What killed it was a stupid proliferation of patches and mods. There was the "classic" mod where you ran around aimlessly killing everything - popular with braindead CS players who like to camp somewhere with a sniper rifle and work on their mouse skills. Then there was the latest "patch" which changed the gameplay and also included some bugfixes. The whole community (and servers) split into groups running different and incompatible versions of the game, each of these groups was below critical mass and they all died.
So individual human beings are able to act selflessly and sacrifice their own self interests for the good of another human or the community. Companies are run by humans, why don't we see more companies acting for the good of the community as a whole? Probably because they attract the sort of human who doesn't act selflessly, and then organise them into powerful units against which no individual human can realistically compete. So the rest of us have to live with these enormous, self-serving entities for whom social progress and development is irrelevant.
The idea that we permit these things to coexist and behave the way they do is so completely weird that most people just don't believe it. So it pays to be reminded of it every now and then with a phrase like "They're a company. They want to make profit."
"Oh, Outlook 2000 is trying to write to the registry! "
"Oh, IE is attempting to send 5374 mail messages! "
Kick the user's head by requiring a certain security clearance for "", and an idiot warning to boot.
Man, I thought OSS folk were smarter than MS coders!
Why the heck do you need a Palladium Agent to implement this?
Jack Valenti still rants about "standards for wrapping digital content in uncopyable layers of encryption" and Senator Fritz Hollings is trying to push through a bill to make it mandatory. Do you think Microsoft is responding to this, or do you think they are looking out for their valued customers?
You were at the baggage counter wearing slippers and there was a dog following you around? I'd believe that of the Easter Island airport but I thought Hawaii was a little less, erm, 'rustic'.
What ever happened to that project funded by the weather channel to make a DRI driver? When its done is anyone even going to be buying these cards anymore?
You can download the source for a beta here. The cvs files are updates regularly. I think there is a binary somewhere on the Tungsten Graphics site.
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The end result is incompatibility until the Nvidia gets around to simply re-compiling the module with gcc3.2 (or you're technical enough to know to how to use the --force option with insmod, and are willing to take the risk it breaks something)
.tar.gz files like everyone else and type "make; make install;" They work fine.
Just download the
The *really* retarded thing about Red Hat 8.0 and nvidia cards is the way the Red Hat installer chooses the vesa driver for your $400 GF 4.
Me, I think specialization is for insects, but that's me. Your milage may vary.
Rubbish. Specialization is for specific cases in a templated function.
Not infinite, there has to be some upper bound proportional to the population.
Well, if someone has a pirated copy then all their descendents, and their descendents' descendents and so on have access to that pirated material as well, thus robbing the RIAA of income for an infinite succession of generations.
What's more, it's uncountably infinite.
Many of the "asylum seekers" are in fact economic refugees that paid large amounts of money to get here.
Sure. People with large amounts of money to spend are likely to pay for passage on an overcrowded boat with a non trivial chance of sinking when they can afford to pay for plane tickets and visas.
What is the alternative to detention? Release into the community as long as they promise to come back when we reject the claims? Oh wait, 14,000 of them didn't come back when their claims were rejectd... source: yesterday's "The Australian".
No, the source is the immigration department. The Australian article also notes that:
"In September 1997, Philip Ruddock's office had said in response to a question on notice from Democrats senator Natasha Stott Despoja: 'No unauthorised asylum-seeker released on a bridging visa in Australia from 1996 to 1998 failed to meet their reporting obligations.'"
And it also points out that "The executive officer of the Catholic Commission for Justice Development and Peace, Marc Purcell, described the latest figures as 'wildly inaccurate', and demanded that the department clarify them."
Howard's government are liars. Remember "children overboard?" You are a fool if you believe that was an honest mistake.
If you were really a proud Australian you would not put up with the disgraceful behaviour of our "leaders."
The ALP's plan is good, 90% processed with 90 days
It is good, but how practical is it? Currently it takes up to 18 months to process some cases, but it is inhuman to detain people for that long. The alternatives are release on temporary visas, or temporary housing in open compounds where they may be visited by relatives, work and contribute to the community.
Only people that are in genuine need should be able to enjoy Australia's hospitality.
Hospitality? How about the sickening rocks and petrol bombs thrown at mosques and islamic primary schools? The taunts that Muslim women wearing burkhas endure? What sort of hospitality is that supposed to be?
we lock our OS refugees up in camps for years on end. And they're not refugees, they're "illegal immigrants".
Hell yeah. Besides the two goals are not incompatible. Reputable sources have stated that Osama bin Laden is in fact hiding out in a bunker on the moon. So EVERYONE would be happy.
I ride my bike every day, and you're telling me I can get money for it?
I am wary of handing my bank details out over the internet, so if you are genuine please contact Mr.Abiola Williams at the Bank of Nigeria. He has all my account numbers.
103 should be 10^3 and 106 should be 10^6
Wtf is with not allowing the <sup> tag?
I have to wonder what type of redundancy and error correction will have to be built into quantum computing.
Lots and lots. In 1995 Peter Shor (the factoring guy) and Robert Calderbank devised that possiblethe first error correcting code for quantum computers. Many others have been designed, including proposals for some that operate as a natural consequence of the system being used. Here is a good survey of the field.
It has been shown that if the error rate is below a certain threshold (currently estimated to be one error per 103 operations for optimists, and one per 106 per pessimists) then efficient error corrected quantum computation is possible. The pessimistic estimate is well above what is currently possible experimentally in quantum systems but the problem seems to be an engineering one, not a fundamental one. It should eventually be possible with clever implementations of qubits, shielding and cooling to near absolute zero.
Most people don't realize that a quantum computer can't function by itself, i.e. it needs a traditional "front-end". This is mostly due to the fact that quantum circuits can't form cycles, and in order to have a Turing-complete system you need at least 3 loops on top of each other.
What the hell are you talking about. Although it will undoubtably more practical to use a classical computer to run one of the current envisions of a quantum one, that doesn't mean the classical one is required. Quantum computers include classical computers as a subset.
Will quantum computing make using database table indexes obsolete? ie. will the time saved by using an index be small enough that it's not worth the effort to create/maintain one (for most uses)?
No. Grover's quantum search algorithm searches an unindexed database with N entries in O(sqrt(N)) time. It says nothing about indexed databases which can be accessed in O(log(N)) time using classical computers.
Get over yourself. security, cost, and "work as well" are not inherent characteristics of any method of managing who gets to look at source code.
... Free software is free if you don't value your time.
This sentence is grammatically nonsensical. Are you saying that no manager who considers open-source code can claim to be concerned about security,cost and reliability? Weird.
Open Source does NOT equate better security. Never think so, never say so, never tell anyone this again. It's pure bullshit.
Of course open source doesn't necessarily mean better security - there is no reason why proprietry code should be less secure. In practice though it is. It might because open source coders love what they're doing and invest lots of effort into writing good code whereas someone working to a deadline just gets something out the door. And there is the tired old line that more eyes pick up more mistakes. It's tired but it's true. Most security advisories on open source products describe potential buffer overflows etc caught by someone reading the source, and a fix is available immediately. The first people hear about many microsoft holes is a worm running all over the net.
Security is a disciplined mindset
The time spent configuring and understanding "free" software is extremely worthwhile if you want to be disciplined about security. If you learn about Apache, then you gain valuable knowledge about how the web functions and where its vulnerabilities are.
How's that open source sound coming along in linux these days ?
Very well thank you. I believe Alsa is being merged into kernel 2.6 or maybe earlier.
Just wait until the Entmoot gets finished and they ...
oh. the book isn't real is it?
We complain about Hollywood and MPAA fatcats, the fatcats who pump out the same derivative drivel year in year out with the single goal of making money.
LOTR is not a Hollywood movie. It was made by people with a genuine love of Tolkien. So stop babbling formulaic counter-counter-culture cliches. Honestly.
When I did a network install of my gateway last year I used a static IP address since dhcp didn't work for whatever reason. I then forgot to change it afterwards.
...
Living in a share household bills sometimes went unpaid and Optus@Home 'disconnected' our service, meaning they disabled the dhcp account. We continued to get internet access for the next 6 months until someone finally tweaked that we hadn't got any bills for a while and called Optus. Boy were they mad, but at least we only got billed for the 6 months (honesty is not always the best policy kiddies).
All this crap, same with uncapping modems, could easily be prevented by the ISPs. If it's such a huge problem for them, why don't they take steps to prevent it happening? Insurance companies wont pay up if you forget to lock your car and it gets stolen
Consciousness appears to be related to only a very little of what we do on a regular basis.
Well, yes. In the literature they are known as the subconscious and the unconscious.
If you simply observe you will notice that the sort of things the subconscious is capable of do not belong to the world of cause and effect, which is all science is currently equipped to study. I am a physicist so I should know.
The short reply to your assertion is, however, that the only way we will ever understand the functioning of the "brain" and the rest of the related nervous system is to break it down into little parts, i.e. trivialize it.
This will give us an understanding of parts of the brain, not necessarily of the brain itself. There might be a big difference.
Also, the way it stands, if I want to share my X apps with my Windows friends, I have to get them to either
1) Pay a lot for a decent X server for Windows (by decent, I mean that it doesn't put all X connections inside one Window with a fixed size, but rather creates Windows each time a call is made - unlike Cywgin xfree86).
2) Download, install and configure xfree86 with cygwin (assuming they've got the 200MB free for it). By the way, I know there is a version that is supposed to work without cygwin. It doesn't work yet, at least not right out of the box, and not with any instructions they give you.
3) Get them to use a non-windowing solution, i.e. VNC.
Check out WinaXe. The trial version can be run for half an hour - then you just need to rerun it. It's a 12MB download, a no-brain installation and it works comfortably well. Hell, i run mozilla mail with it.
Linux needs something like DirectX to succeed. Whether or not it is OpenGL is not crucial. The problem with OpenGL is it doesn't keep up with the features of new cards the way DirectX does.
Not many games keep up with the features of new cards, so OpenGL doesn't have to be bleeding edge to run them. The reason there aren't that many games for linux isn't that OpenGL is dated.
Besides, most good games offer both OpenGL and Direct3D renderers. The rendering is only a small part of a 3D game and it is not that difficult to provide alternative renderers.
And frankly, who cares if "Sunny Garcias Pro Surfing" runs on linux or not.
The smart thing to do would be to mimick DirectX as much as possible, make it easier for a PC game developer using DirectX to port their game over to Linux.
Dear god please no. The goal of OpenGL should be to provide an excellent api for realtime 3d programming, not to mimic Direct3d. If any Direct3d programmer understands 3d concepts well enough, porting to OpenGL should present no difficulty whatsoever. And vice versa.
crashing every few map switches is a guaranteed way to kill off a game.
A game that was that bad would never take off in the first place. The "UE errors" (which were never a problem on linux anyway) became far less frequent after the second patch, and my brother's stopped completely after he stuck a bigger fan on his video card.
Was a f-cking awesome FPS with RTS components. Playing in a clan battle with organised and practice offense and defense was unbeatable. It wasn't exactly the most technically brilliant engine but it worked well on good enough hardware.
Unfortunately it is dead, at least in Australia. What killed it was a stupid proliferation of patches and mods. There was the "classic" mod where you ran around aimlessly killing everything - popular with braindead CS players who like to camp somewhere with a sniper rifle and work on their mouse skills. Then there was the latest "patch" which changed the gameplay and also included some bugfixes. The whole community (and servers) split into groups running different and incompatible versions of the game, each of these groups was below critical mass and they all died.
Mods can really, really suck.
So individual human beings are able to act selflessly and sacrifice their own self interests for the good of another human or the community. Companies are run by humans, why don't we see more companies acting for the good of the community as a whole? Probably because they attract the sort of human who doesn't act selflessly, and then organise them into powerful units against which no individual human can realistically compete. So the rest of us have to live with these enormous, self-serving entities for whom social progress and development is irrelevant.
The idea that we permit these things to coexist and behave the way they do is so completely weird that most people just don't believe it. So it pays to be reminded of it every now and then with a phrase like "They're a company. They want to make profit."
Sandboxes and an agent watching the mail spool.
"Oh, Outlook 2000 is trying to write to the registry! "
"Oh, IE is attempting to send 5374 mail messages! "
Kick the user's head by requiring a certain security clearance for "", and an idiot warning to boot.
Man, I thought OSS folk were smarter than MS coders!
Why the heck do you need a Palladium Agent to implement this?
Jack Valenti still rants about "standards for wrapping digital content in uncopyable layers of encryption" and Senator Fritz Hollings is trying to push through a bill to make it mandatory. Do you think Microsoft is responding to this, or do you think they are looking out for their valued customers?
You were at the baggage counter wearing slippers and there was a dog following you around? I'd believe that of the Easter Island airport but I thought Hawaii was a little less, erm, 'rustic'.
What ever happened to that project funded by the weather channel to make a DRI driver? When its done is anyone even going to be buying these cards anymore?
You can download the source for a beta here. The cvs files are updates regularly. I think there is a binary somewhere on the Tungsten Graphics site.
i will be outside holding up a large bucket of cointreau