I'm an american, and I've met people from Arkansas and the west Appalachian area and he's right!
Fact is, ignorance knows no bounries and permiates all walks of life and areas of pursuit. The real shame is, we didn't learn this earlier before we elected him president.
I've personally managed more than 150 trade shows across the country for our company and I can assure you they are quite expensive for the exhibitors. The goal at many of these trade shows is to atain valuable sales leads. These leads lead to sales and help to offset the cost of being at the show.
When we set up a booth and fly in people to work the show, a well designed booth will try to make sure that the people coming in to the booth get attention and the people that are there to spend money get the most attention.
There always needs to be a way to filter the people so that the exhibitors can tell who's a CIO, CEO, and VP and who are high schcool kids cruising for handouts. Both groups need access to the exhibitors, but for differant reasons.
One east coast show did it right. They had "student only mornings". They opened the show early for 2 hours each day and asked exhibitors to make some people available to handle these students. This was a win win for everybody because the students got better access to the exhibitors and could ask them detailed questions. This made the students visit truly educational and not just a freebie grab fest (alltho we still gave away cool stuff). It was also a win for the exhibitors because during the show, you spent less time educating and more time concentrating on cultivating sales leads.
Perhaps more Linux shows can use this format in the future to balance exhibitor cost and atendee access. ___
I would have to agree with your assesment of the test and it's conditions. This wasn't "Benchcrafted" because it wasn't bias with the expressed desire to produce a controlled result. ___
I couldn't agree more. In my mind, Java is an integral part of the "Web API" when building wide area applications. I think the original post on this thread nailed it right on the head when he pointed out that the overhead is in the DB and not the logic before or after. Given this situation, portability and stability are higher priorities than eeking out another.1% of overall speed of the wide area application. ___
I would agree that Java has become one of the languages. In my mind, it already is part of the "web API" when implementing a wide area aplication.
I would take issue with your comparison with VB. When looking at the initial learning curve, and prototyping, I think that Python is more comparable to Java in that respect. The point about having VBA in Office98 on Mac is, how can I say, laughable.
In the age of instant news, high powered/super-zoom lenses, and live coverage of just about anything that burbs, is someone going to be covering this event? Do any of the major news outlets have 1m resolution look down satelites yet? ___
Maybe in your world, Ralph Nader should form a class action suit because that warning was omitted.
My point behind making the car anology was to point out that IE is not free. If you pay 30k for the car and they give you a tank of gas for free, you could say you've payed 15k for the gas and you've payed 15k for the car. You could also say you've payed 28,080 for the gas and the car was 20 dollars. You can use any acounting method you wish, but in the end, you've payed for both items.
Why does this analogy apply?
Windows 98 is free. Free? yea, free.
You pay for IE. Like it or not, and ms throws in the OS as a distrobution method in the same way Corel throws in Linux to help distribute their Work Perfect Office suite.
Now, I know what some of you ms droids are thinking "I never wrote a check to microsoft for the use of their browser, they gave it to me because they love me and they think I'm special." They love you and they think your so special, they charged you for the browser and they threw in an operating system for free.
To bolster my point, I quote item 137 from the text of Judge Jackson Finding of fact in the case:
137. In early 1995, personnel developing Internet Explorer at Microsoft contemplated charging OEMs and others for the product when it was released. Internet Explorer would have been included in a bundle of software that would have been sold as an add-on, or "frosting," to Windows 95. Indeed, Microsoft knew by the middle of 1995, if not earlier, that Netscape charged customers to license Navigator, and that Netscape derived a significant portion of its revenue from selling browser licenses. Despite the opportunity to make a substantial amount of revenue from the sale of Internet Explorer, and with the knowledge that the dominant browser product on the market, Navigator, was being licensed at a price, senior executives at Microsoft decided that Microsoft needed to give its browser away in furtherance of the larger strategic goal of accelerating Internet Explorer's acquisition of browser usage share. Consequently, Microsoft decided not to charge an increment in price when it included Internet Explorer in Windows for the first time, and it has continued this policy ever since. In addition, Microsoft has never charged for an Internet Explorer license when it is distributed separately from Windows. ___
The point is that M$ followed valid business practices. While some of these may have been a little shady (such as altering some industry standards to make them proprietary), none of these practices are illegal.
Thank you for playing, now step to the back of the class.
Al Capone was "a little shady". Stalin was "a little shady". Yet they both rose to the top of their perspective fields. Do they deserve my respect for their achievments? No.
As the old saying goes, it's not weather you win or loose, it's how you play the game. Micros~1 has spent years making enymies around the software industry and, in Washington. All thet bad Karma(and Greg) has finally caught up to them and they're going to get a taiste of the cluestick. I just hope they learn from their mistakes.
On the issue of bundeling, I would like to provide you with a small example. Suppose you're offered a free tank of gas with the purchase of a new car. It would be factual that you payed $29,980 for the tank of gas and got the car for $20. It would also be factual that you payed $30,000 for the car and got the gas for free. The fact is, you've payed for both.
They only reason ms chose the bundeling route is that they were not gaining share, and they had abide by the consent decree they agreed to with the government. ___
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There is a need for privacy and freedom on the internet.
Today, at least in the united states of america, there is no law preventing me from collecting and redistibuting a digital biography on any persons activity in the comunity. This data may consist of seemingly irrelevant facts about you and your daily life, but distrobution of this data, or tracking data, has value to the right person in the right market.
The cost of keeping, maintaining and distrubuting this data falls every year, and the laws to address this problem continue to be ignored. As tracking data continues to be collected without the expressed consent of the person being tracked, what is a person to do?
Opt out. Remain anonymous when possible. This is the only tool a person has against keeping bad information from proliforating without his or her consent. There is no legal recourse for an individual whos tracking data is incorrect, incomplete, or patently false. There is also no legal recourse for an individual to try and stop the distrobution of this data. One's only hope is to keep it to a minimum.
I favor laws asking companies to ask the consent of the user before collecting and redistributing tracking data. I favor laws giving the user an oportunity to view and dispute the data being collected about her. When these laws are in place, I'll gladly use my G(lobaly) U(nique)ID(denification) with confedence that I have legal recourse to protect my digital biography. Intill then, anonymity is the only tool. ___
I'm reminded of a book I recently finished called "The sun, the genome, and the internet in which the good Mr. Dyson (remember Dyson Spheres? yea. that guy) extoles the many advances in technology that will shape our near future. One of the more interesting points in the book was the emphysis on social justice (how much impact a piece of technology has on every day life around the globe).
Picture, if you will, an internet kiosk completly independant from the physical infrastructure now used to access the internet today. The AC outlet on your peecee might be replaced by solar power, the dataline replaced with a satelite link. This is not far removed from the Transmeta webpad with a 18" digital dish on top, and a battery pack down below.
Such a device would have a big social impact around the globe because it could, quite literaly, be droped from the sky and just do what it does for a few hours a day (I know some of you are picturing a sceen from "the gods must be crazy" when the coke bottle hits the native on the head).
Anyway, the continued focus on low power consumtion can be combined with an emphysis on a focus on "infrastructure indepentant technologies" to provide an affordable killer thin client.
Now, if we can only get that magical universal translator into the mozilla nightlys.;) ___
This interesting article a few years ago on Wired talks about the methods used by Qwest to pull fibre here in the good ol' USA. Interestingly a railroad track is one of the few features that make the straightest line posible between 2 points, and also cut straight across political and zoneing issues.
From the article:"In Georgia, the rail plow is ahead of schedule, digging up the red clay at a rate of three miles a day. One moment Smith and Meiklejohn are calculating how long it will take the man who restores the gravel portion near the track to catch up with the unexpectedly fast work of the plow. The next moment they're determining where the nine-car train can be pulled off the tracks so a scheduled freight can pass."
Useing the existing railroad system solves many other logisticle issues such as how to get thousands of miles of fibre optic cable to the rail plow in an affordable way (by rail!, of course). ___
From the article:"The kind people at Helix Code had set up a system to supply everyone with prebuilt binaries for the release, but due to their master server being hit by the Slashdot effect minutes after the files were posted, most mirrors failed to get the packages and were close to useless." ___
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U.s.patents 5,544,320 5,696,901 5,974,444(Patent 3 case) " The client - it is based on the service model between the servers, far Every other service access system (REMOTESERVICEACCESSSYSTEMSBASEDONA CLIENT-SERVERSERVICEMODEL. ) " It is something regarding. Furthermore, the result of investigating the patent family, no United States National patent, preference insistence application to the country other than the United States to be seen, the ? It was a plug.
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A local host computing system, a remote host computing system as connected by a network, and service functionalities: a human interface service functionality, a starter service functionality, and a desired utility service functionality, and a Client-Server-Service (CSS) model is imposed on each service functionality. In one embodiment, this results in nine logical components and three physical components (a local host, a remote host, and an intervening network), where two of the logical components are integrated into one Remote Object Client component, and that Remote Object Client component and the other seven logical components are deployed among the local host and remote host in a manner which eases compatibility and upgrade problems, and provides an illusion to a user that a desired utility service supported on a remote host resides locally on the user's local host, thereby providing ease of use and minimal software maintenance for users of that remote service. ___
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I'm an american, and I've met people from Arkansas and the west Appalachian area and he's right!
Fact is, ignorance knows no bounries and permiates all walks of life and areas of pursuit. The real shame is, we didn't learn this earlier before we elected him president.
Twice!
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When we set up a booth and fly in people to work the show, a well designed booth will try to make sure that the people coming in to the booth get attention and the people that are there to spend money get the most attention.
There always needs to be a way to filter the people so that the exhibitors can tell who's a CIO, CEO, and VP and who are high schcool kids cruising for handouts. Both groups need access to the exhibitors, but for differant reasons.
One east coast show did it right. They had "student only mornings". They opened the show early for 2 hours each day and asked exhibitors to make some people available to handle these students. This was a win win for everybody because the students got better access to the exhibitors and could ask them detailed questions. This made the students visit truly educational and not just a freebie grab fest (alltho we still gave away cool stuff). It was also a win for the exhibitors because during the show, you spent less time educating and more time concentrating on cultivating sales leads.
Perhaps more Linux shows can use this format in the future to balance exhibitor cost and atendee access.
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Requiring someone to use win2k is against some geneva convention crimes against humanity laws.
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That's just cruel!
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I would have to agree with your assesment of the test and it's conditions. This wasn't "Benchcrafted" because it wasn't bias with the expressed desire to produce a controlled result.
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. .who more than 4 million registered users in 2,500 cities across the United States all using Java.
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I couldn't agree more. In my mind, Java is an integral part of the "Web API" when building wide area applications. I think the original post on this thread nailed it right on the head when he pointed out that the overhead is in the DB and not the logic before or after. Given this situation, portability and stability are higher priorities than eeking out another .1% of overall speed of the wide area application.
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I would take issue with your comparison with VB. When looking at the initial learning curve, and prototyping, I think that Python is more comparable to Java in that respect. The point about having VBA in Office98 on Mac is, how can I say, laughable.
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So it's a Mindcraft test?
;)
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ftp://ftp.amiga.com/pub/developers/
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In the age of instant news, high powered/super-zoom lenses, and live coverage of just about anything that burbs, is someone going to be covering this event? Do any of the major news outlets have 1m resolution look down satelites yet?
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My point behind making the car anology was to point out that IE is not free. If you pay 30k for the car and they give you a tank of gas for free, you could say you've payed 15k for the gas and you've payed 15k for the car. You could also say you've payed 28,080 for the gas and the car was 20 dollars. You can use any acounting method you wish, but in the end, you've payed for both items.
Why does this analogy apply?
Windows 98 is free. Free? yea, free.
You pay for IE. Like it or not, and ms throws in the OS as a distrobution method in the same way Corel throws in Linux to help distribute their Work Perfect Office suite.
Now, I know what some of you ms droids are thinking "I never wrote a check to microsoft for the use of their browser, they gave it to me because they love me and they think I'm special." They love you and they think your so special, they charged you for the browser and they threw in an operating system for free.
To bolster my point, I quote item 137 from the text of Judge Jackson Finding of fact in the case:
137. In early 1995, personnel developing Internet Explorer at Microsoft contemplated charging OEMs and others for the product when it was released. Internet Explorer would have been included in a bundle of software that would have been sold as an add-on, or "frosting," to Windows 95. Indeed, Microsoft knew by the middle of 1995, if not earlier, that Netscape charged customers to license Navigator, and that Netscape derived a significant portion of its revenue from selling browser licenses. Despite the opportunity to make a substantial amount of revenue from the sale of Internet Explorer, and with the knowledge that the dominant browser product on the market, Navigator, was being licensed at a price, senior executives at Microsoft decided that Microsoft needed to give its browser away in furtherance of the larger strategic goal of accelerating Internet Explorer's acquisition of browser usage share. Consequently, Microsoft decided not to charge an increment in price when it included Internet Explorer in Windows for the first time, and it has continued this policy ever since. In addition, Microsoft has never charged for an Internet Explorer license when it is distributed separately from Windows.
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Thank you for playing, now step to the back of the class.
Al Capone was "a little shady". Stalin was "a little shady". Yet they both rose to the top of their perspective fields. Do they deserve my respect for their achievments? No.
As the old saying goes, it's not weather you win or loose, it's how you play the game. Micros~1 has spent years making enymies around the software industry and, in Washington. All thet bad Karma(and Greg) has finally caught up to them and they're going to get a taiste of the cluestick. I just hope they learn from their mistakes.
On the issue of bundeling, I would like to provide you with a small example. Suppose you're offered a free tank of gas with the purchase of a new car. It would be factual that you payed $29,980 for the tank of gas and got the car for $20. It would also be factual that you payed $30,000 for the car and got the gas for free. The fact is, you've payed for both.
They only reason ms chose the bundeling route is that they were not gaining share, and they had abide by the consent decree they agreed to with the government.
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These topics contain icons that enhance the interface, allowing the reader to quickly scan the top tool bar to see the topics posted on the main page. Some of these icons are funny, some are seasonal, and some icons make most Linux users want to cry.
The majority of these icons, however, are the copyrighted trademark of multi billion dollar, multi national companies who spend millions and millions each year maintaining a good name in the industry.
The proposed EULA from Apogee just sucks because good people have to fear the wrath of evil companies infringing on their right to free speach under the first amendment. I ask you, does Rob have the right to make his own topic bar? Can he add an icon for what ever he wants without fear of retrobution? Is my linking to these trademarked work a violation of some law?
C'mon, think about it. It's just not smart.
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There is a need for privacy and freedom on the internet.
Today, at least in the united states of america, there is no law preventing me from collecting and redistibuting a digital biography on any persons activity in the comunity. This data may consist of seemingly irrelevant facts about you and your daily life, but distrobution of this data, or tracking data, has value to the right person in the right market.
The cost of keeping, maintaining and distrubuting this data falls every year, and the laws to address this problem continue to be ignored. As tracking data continues to be collected without the expressed consent of the person being tracked, what is a person to do?
Opt out. Remain anonymous when possible. This is the only tool a person has against keeping bad information from proliforating without his or her consent. There is no legal recourse for an individual whos tracking data is incorrect, incomplete, or patently false. There is also no legal recourse for an individual to try and stop the distrobution of this data. One's only hope is to keep it to a minimum.
I favor laws asking companies to ask the consent of the user before collecting and redistributing tracking data. I favor laws giving the user an oportunity to view and dispute the data being collected about her. When these laws are in place, I'll gladly use my G(lobaly) U(nique)ID(denification) with confedence that I have legal recourse to protect my digital biography. Intill then, anonymity is the only tool.
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Picture, if you will, an internet kiosk completly independant from the physical infrastructure now used to access the internet today. The AC outlet on your peecee might be replaced by solar power, the dataline replaced with a satelite link. This is not far removed from the Transmeta webpad with a 18" digital dish on top, and a battery pack down below.
Such a device would have a big social impact around the globe because it could, quite literaly, be droped from the sky and just do what it does for a few hours a day (I know some of you are picturing a sceen from "the gods must be crazy" when the coke bottle hits the native on the head).
Anyway, the continued focus on low power consumtion can be combined with an emphysis on a focus on "infrastructure indepentant technologies" to provide an affordable killer thin client.
Now, if we can only get that magical universal translator into the mozilla nightlys. ;)
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From the article:"In Georgia, the rail plow is ahead of schedule, digging up the red clay at a rate of three miles a day. One moment Smith and Meiklejohn are calculating how long it will take the man who restores the gravel portion near the track to catch up with the unexpectedly fast work of the plow. The next moment they're determining where the nine-car train can be pulled off the tracks so a scheduled freight can pass."
Useing the existing railroad system solves many other logisticle issues such as how to get thousands of miles of fibre optic cable to the rail plow in an affordable way (by rail!, of course).
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This is sad. Over the year, if you had to add it all up, how much money have you personally commited to micros~1 ?
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From the article:"The kind people at Helix Code had set up a system to supply everyone with prebuilt binaries for the release, but due to their master server being hit by the Slashdot effect minutes after the files were posted, most mirrors failed to get the packages and were close to useless."
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This image looks suprisingly like a 3D version of the MSBob desktop. ;)
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Onda genuine patent office
Address
Tokyo To Shibuya Ku Yoyogi 2 Chome 10th 4
Shinjuku Tsuji building 8 F pofic 151 -
Representative
Patent attorney Onda sincerity
Facilities stand
July of 1999
The number of staff members
15 people
Business cooperation office
Related system
On ? international patent office
International technical translation center
-- looks like a japanese IP law firm
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A local host computing system, a remote host computing system as connected by a network, and service functionalities: a human interface service functionality, a starter service functionality, and a desired utility service functionality, and a Client-Server-Service (CSS) model is imposed on each service functionality. In one embodiment, this results in nine logical components and three physical components (a local host, a remote host, and an intervening network), where two of the logical components are integrated into one Remote Object Client component, and that Remote Object Client component and the other seven logical components are deployed among the local host and remote host in a manner which eases compatibility and upgrade problems, and provides an illusion to a user that a desired utility service supported on a remote host resides locally on the user's local host, thereby providing ease of use and minimal software maintenance for users of that remote service.
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