I have admired Steve's work for decades.
That said, the battle is Liberty vs. Security.
I use Liberty to replace privacy, privacy is not in the constitution, security is, Liberty should be if it isn't it unlike privacy is without a doubt at least implied.
Steve's take on EL's security policies is pretty good. From what I read, he did not ask for the information, only that they secure it.
On the other hand Steve approached them as an individual and asked them to perform an action that would, could produce an invasion on the security of a member subscriber. This based on a telephone call from an individual claiming to be Steve Gibson.
Anyway the point is Steve didn't carry much weight because he shouldn't. On the other hand when a subscriber of EL calls in and says they are getting DOS'd, they should get attention (they don't).
Thanks for making my point. UNIX names are the best example of names not mattering. Xthis. Xthat... yeah good... cool.
You ~feel~ cool because you run Unix? You probably ~feel~ cool because you drive a Lexuz. That's called marketing. It does not make the product popular beyond the first three quarters of it's introduction. Cool is a product with value and staying power, feeling cool is the job of a lite beer.
Q "Can't people be more descriptive of a product or technology than just calling it "New"?"/Q
Names really aren't important (ie slashdot), except to marketing folks. Product matters. I haven't looked at NewOS in a while, time to look again.
My personal feeling is that anyone who can code an OS, should. That doesn't mean we should all use it, or even that the author should. But they should publish it, just for the sake of prior art.
Tisk Tisk.
They don't own the data... Here's my only supposition for a possible reason for the suit.
Do the older versions of EZ CD Creator (4 and below) still use the Gracenote servers? If so then services may be getting used without expected, although maybe not entitled payment.
Mr Mundie gets it. He just hopes nobody else does.
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He should be given the title "Man of F.U.D.".
This latest rebut.. is the biggest load of FUD I've ever seen. No facts to support ANY of his ideas.
It did, it really did eat the net. Now I watch and wait for the Web Eater to come. It will, maybe in the form of Quake-ish interface, but it will come.
Two dimensions with pictures and (rare, but always painful) sounds. Plugins that come and go. It's not really an enhancement of the preceeding Gopher.
The net demands more dimension, without having to chug even more bandwidth. Content per byte has certainly diminished in the last 10 years.
Sounds like a lot of folks (at least in charge) with too little to do. The environment I'm in is constant crisis. I'd sign on for a 'NonCrisis Day' in a heartbeat.
If you designed the other way around, you would have no trouble at all (almost).
Build flashy on NS and it usually works in IE with little or no changing needed. IE is a broken system full of non standard stuff.
Stop and think about that 85% of your stats.
How is that number driven? There are sites I access with IE only because they have broken code that only IE will eat without choking. Those sites are going to show high usage of IE users because non IE users will bomb each time they visit.
Dump your MS pagebuilding tools. They truly are the tools of the devil.
My last understanding was that NewMoz (the bastard stepchild of the traditional Mozilla) still does not support LDAP. Business (Red Hat customers) need this if they are of an international, or pan continental company. That is unless Red Hat has decided to abandon the desktop completely and focus on servers.
Standard compliant? All users want are pages that display - IExploder is the winner in this regard, even if I do hate it, and have no love for the OS's it currently runs on.
The black and white (monochromatic) plates used at this time would have been of a non panchromatic type. Panchromatic film has a response to visable light of a large range of colours.
No matter what the apparent quality of the images, they can only be valued as representations of the colours, not anything approaching the 'true colours'.
These photographs are vauable for thier existance, to for thier technical merit, or even artistic (they are not good).
The wars, revolutions, and disasters that have traversed the landscape since the time of these images, makes them a valuable historical curiosity.
The work of John Joly, and the Lumire brothers are much more interesting from a technical and innovative aspect.
"That is, one cannot excerpt a digital clip of a CSS-encrypted DVD, but one could point a video camera at the screen and create a clip, albeit of poor quality. Is that sufficient for fair use?"
I point a digital video camera at a highres screen, the quality, good or bad is a digital reproduction of the original and has in effect bypassed the protection. The camera has become a device to defeat the protection. Hence all cameras would have to outlawed also, since they may or may not be used for the purpose of theft, and even one copy of the original supposedly is the death of the product (and how does entertainment media warrant such protection for commercial interest).
I do know that the DCMA road taken to it's logical conclusion is a direct violation of the spirit, if not the letter of the U.S. constitution.
If five slashdotters buy it to see how to undo this stupid effort, then Charlie Pride's sales will double overnight. I'm sure Charlie Pride was picked for a test case, instead of Shania Twain for good reasons. If this CD trashes and damages traditional CD players then low sales will make it easier to compensate or avoid recall, and compensation. IF however it works ok (I doubt) then it's good for Charlie's carrier and allows the recording industry to show that it actually doubled or tripled the sales of a venerated, but largely forgotten industry star.
Randal, good to see you still fighting.
For each person that can manage to fight, there are thousands who cannot.
The ruling against you, and requirement of disclosure (with no relief) is one of the most bizarre judgements I have heard of. If the judges applied the same logic to shoplifters and fraudulent car dealerships, I suspect the whole country would grind to a stop.
There is nothing more sacred to a free society than the rights of the individual... and nothing more easily trampled apon.
Bravo!
I nearly todded the whole story without looking at it.
Dell and Hewlett Packard are both computer companies - oh and Amana makes microwave ovens right?
Let's all just use them interchangibly and try and maintain meaning.
Honestly though, this really didn't rate as a news item. Strikes me as a "Man bites dog" story.
Computer scientists, world holding capacity, thousands at most.
Computer engineers, world holding capacity, nearly unlimited.
A scientist does research, no production... no immediate profit.
An engineer does work for the scientist (probably a ratio of 10 Eng. to support 1 Sci.
Plus the engineer gets the glory of making the Fuped product work in the the field, and adapting it to a changing world. Ratio probably 3000 Eng. to 1 Sci.
The first rule of life is survival (making a living). Cars are repaired every day, they are only designed from scratch when the world can't make them the old way any longer.
I don't know how you get your conception of Sci. = Software and Eng. = Hardware....
There are both Sci. and Eng. in both, there has to be because Scientists can't produce anything without Engineers.
Get yourself a copy of "The Soul of a New Machine" by Tracy Kidder ISBN: 038071115X.
The real world of engineering is cold, hard, dull and boring. People colapse from the boredom on a regular and predictable basis, also check out "Death March" by Edward Yourdon ISBN:0130146595
Read those and toss out any ideas about glamour, fame, riches or glory. Then decide if you enjoy the good stuff that come with the bad.
A boss (co-worker) of mine once said to me, "If this were all fun we could get people to pay us to do it, instead we have to pay them."
I sure hope the military recruiter doesn't get too close to you guys.
And did they do it by not supporting existing standards? NO. And that's what will kill the Moz if they don't re-incorperate backward functionality to IE4 and NS4 in DHTML and the DOM as it is, not as the 'standard' says. ReCode is not he answer for maybe millions of pages that work just fine in the lvl 4 browsers, but turn to trash on the "better browser". I love he Zilla, but this isn't him.
Re:We're still going to have floppies for a while
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Quite a while. Until every machine has a newer read/write medium. The ONLY thing that remains the same from machine to machine is the under appreciated floppy.
Keyboards - different Serial Ports - 25pin -9 pin one/two one on mouse one on modem. Printer Port -almost always 25 pin, but usually taken by a printer or maybe not, or maybe disabled, or not having a compatible mode.
Nope the one thing I 'almost always' know is there is the pathetic, worthless, lets me get stuff in and out floppy drive.
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I have admired Steve's work for decades.
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That said, the battle is Liberty vs. Security.
I use Liberty to replace privacy, privacy is not in the constitution, security is, Liberty should be if it isn't it unlike privacy is without a doubt at least implied.
Steve's take on EL's security policies is pretty good. From what I read, he did not ask for the information, only that they secure it.
On the other hand Steve approached them as an individual and asked them to perform an action that would, could produce an invasion on the security of a member subscriber. This based on a telephone call from an individual claiming to be Steve Gibson.
Anyway the point is Steve didn't carry much weight because he shouldn't. On the other hand when a subscriber of EL calls in and says they are getting DOS'd, they should get attention (they don't).
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Thanks for making my point. UNIX names are the best example of names not mattering. Xthis. Xthat... yeah good... cool.
You ~feel~ cool because you run Unix? You probably ~feel~ cool because you drive a Lexuz. That's called marketing. It does not make the product popular beyond the first three quarters of it's introduction. Cool is a product with value and staying power, feeling cool is the job of a lite beer.
Q "Can't people be more descriptive of a product or technology than just calling it "New"?" /Q
Names really aren't important (ie slashdot), except to marketing folks. Product matters. I haven't looked at NewOS in a while, time to look again.
My personal feeling is that anyone who can code an OS, should. That doesn't mean we should all use it, or even that the author should. But they should publish it, just for the sake of prior art.
Tisk Tisk.
They don't own the data... Here's my only supposition for a possible reason for the suit.
Do the older versions of EZ CD Creator (4 and below) still use the Gracenote servers? If so then services may be getting used without expected, although maybe not entitled payment.
He should be given the title "Man of F.U.D.".
This latest rebut.. is the biggest load of FUD I've ever seen. No facts to support ANY of his ideas.
If you can't find a way to laugh at death, you're going to have a hard time find a way to laugh at life.
It did, it really did eat the net. Now I watch and wait for the Web Eater to come. It will, maybe in the form of Quake-ish interface, but it will come.
Two dimensions with pictures and (rare, but always painful) sounds. Plugins that come and go. It's not really an enhancement of the preceeding Gopher.
The net demands more dimension, without having to chug even more bandwidth. Content per byte has certainly diminished in the last 10 years.
Correction 16 BIT
Maybe, maybe not. Depends on what you call Linux.
Look at the Elks Distro in 8 BIT.
ELKS
Sounds like a lot of folks (at least in charge) with too little to do. The environment I'm in is constant crisis. I'd sign on for a 'NonCrisis Day' in a heartbeat.
Try this, not having seent the original, I can't say this is the same but it does cover some of what appears to be the same topic.
BizWire Story Link
If you designed the other way around, you would have no trouble at all (almost).
Build flashy on NS and it usually works in IE with little or no changing needed. IE is a broken system full of non standard stuff.
Stop and think about that 85% of your stats.
How is that number driven? There are sites I access with IE only because they have broken code that only IE will eat without choking. Those sites are going to show high usage of IE users because non IE users will bomb each time they visit.
Dump your MS pagebuilding tools. They truly are the tools of the devil.
My last understanding was that NewMoz (the bastard stepchild of the traditional Mozilla) still does not support LDAP. Business (Red Hat customers) need this if they are of an international, or pan continental company. That is unless Red Hat has decided to abandon the desktop completely and focus on servers.
Standard compliant? All users want are pages that display - IExploder is the winner in this regard, even if I do hate it, and have no love for the OS's it currently runs on.
The black and white (monochromatic) plates used at this time would have been of a non panchromatic type. Panchromatic film has a response to visable light of a large range of colours.
No matter what the apparent quality of the images, they can only be valued as representations of the colours, not anything approaching the 'true colours'.
These photographs are vauable for thier existance, to for thier technical merit, or even artistic (they are not good).
The wars, revolutions, and disasters that have traversed the landscape since the time of these images, makes them a valuable historical curiosity.
The work of John Joly, and the Lumire brothers are much more interesting from a technical and innovative aspect.
"That is, one cannot excerpt a digital clip of a CSS-encrypted DVD, but one could point a video camera at the screen and create a clip, albeit of poor quality. Is that sufficient for fair use?"
I point a digital video camera at a highres screen, the quality, good or bad is a digital reproduction of the original and has in effect bypassed the protection. The camera has become a device to defeat the protection. Hence all cameras would have to outlawed also, since they may or may not be used for the purpose of theft, and even one copy of the original supposedly is the death of the product (and how does entertainment media warrant such protection for commercial interest).
I do know that the DCMA road taken to it's logical conclusion is a direct violation of the spirit, if not the letter of the U.S. constitution.
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-4635343.html
When a caterpillar starts the journey to a butterfly, we do not say the caterpillar has failed.
DreamCast's exit from 'game box' to 'set top' makes sense... that's what the unit was meant to be in the first place, or at least had evolved to be.
Has anyone seen the 10base-T adapter announced just ahead of the discontinuation announcement anywhere?
If five slashdotters buy it to see how to undo this stupid effort, then Charlie Pride's sales will double overnight. I'm sure Charlie Pride was picked for a test case, instead of Shania Twain for good reasons. If this CD trashes and damages traditional CD players then low sales will make it easier to compensate or avoid recall, and compensation. IF however it works ok (I doubt) then it's good for Charlie's carrier and allows the recording industry to show that it actually doubled or tripled the sales of a venerated, but largely forgotten industry star.
Charlie, I've got one on hold at Warehouse Music.
Randal, good to see you still fighting.
For each person that can manage to fight, there are thousands who cannot.
The ruling against you, and requirement of disclosure (with no relief) is one of the most bizarre judgements I have heard of. If the judges applied the same logic to shoplifters and fraudulent car dealerships, I suspect the whole country would grind to a stop.
There is nothing more sacred to a free society than the rights of the individual... and nothing more easily trampled apon.
Bravo!
I nearly todded the whole story without looking at it.
Dell and Hewlett Packard are both computer companies - oh and Amana makes microwave ovens right?
Let's all just use them interchangibly and try and maintain meaning.
Honestly though, this really didn't rate as a news item. Strikes me as a "Man bites dog" story.
Computer scientists, world holding capacity, thousands at most.
Computer engineers, world holding capacity, nearly unlimited.
A scientist does research, no production... no immediate profit.
An engineer does work for the scientist (probably a ratio of 10 Eng. to support 1 Sci.
Plus the engineer gets the glory of making the Fuped product work in the the field, and adapting it to a changing world. Ratio probably 3000 Eng. to 1 Sci.
The first rule of life is survival (making a living). Cars are repaired every day, they are only designed from scratch when the world can't make them the old way any longer.
I don't know how you get your conception of Sci. = Software and Eng. = Hardware....
There are both Sci. and Eng. in both, there has to be because Scientists can't produce anything without Engineers.
Get yourself a copy of "The Soul of a New Machine" by Tracy Kidder ISBN: 038071115X.
The real world of engineering is cold, hard, dull and boring. People colapse from the boredom on a regular and predictable basis, also check out "Death March" by Edward Yourdon ISBN:0130146595
Read those and toss out any ideas about glamour, fame, riches or glory. Then decide if you enjoy the good stuff that come with the bad.
A boss (co-worker) of mine once said to me, "If this were all fun we could get people to pay us to do it, instead we have to pay them."
I sure hope the military recruiter doesn't get too close to you guys.
And did they do it by not supporting existing standards? NO. And that's what will kill the Moz if they don't re-incorperate backward functionality to IE4 and NS4 in DHTML and the DOM as it is, not as the 'standard' says. ReCode is not he answer for maybe millions of pages that work just fine in the lvl 4 browsers, but turn to trash on the "better browser". I love he Zilla, but this isn't him.
Quite a while.
Until every machine has a newer read/write medium.
The ONLY thing that remains the same from machine to machine is the under appreciated floppy.
Keyboards - different
Serial Ports - 25pin -9 pin one/two one on mouse one on modem.
Printer Port -almost always 25 pin, but usually taken by a printer or maybe not, or maybe disabled, or not having a compatible mode.
Nope the one thing I 'almost always' know is there is the pathetic, worthless, lets me get stuff in and out floppy drive.