I guess it depends upon the person you are talking about.
In all seriousness though, the human brain is still very much a black box, depending upon what area you are focusing on. Some of the processes are more or less scripted in some way (i.e. keep the heart beating) where as others have a large question mark next to them for how they might work (i.e. the creative process of artists).
Its neural networks all the way down. OP ( ledow ) missed whole science field of machine learning. Stupid perceptron will learn to "distinguish two frequencies of input".
I find it sad that people actually think AI or any sort of AI is actually present here, or improving when they read about things like this.
There is no intelligence here. Nothing. There's no guesswork, only statistics, rigorously calculated and applied the same every single time. It's a heuristic. It's programmed. It's immutable. It's basically a targeted improvement on a naive brute-force algorithm.
AMD will most likely be stuck at the niche they are now, at least as long as they stick with the faildozer "half a core" design so that just leaves Intel and ARM and with the money, the fabs, and the R&D budget that Intel has i think it'd be crazy to call it for ARM at this stage of the game.
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Its not a half a core its a full core with a shared FPU/SIMD unit
oh, but but, but look at SuperPi score! AMD sucks!!!1 Haha, those are the arguments I hear daily:) While next AMD CPU will finally implement their Fusion vision and connect GPU to CPU on cache level. Who needs SSE/FPU when you can just crunch double precision on the on die GPU.
You and the other poster seem to be forgetting ONE thing, which is nobody gives a shit how low the power draw is if it can't do what they want and what people WANT is MOAR, MOAR HD, MOAR games with MOAR graphics, MOAR MOAR MOAR.
and how is a CPU going to solve this problem? like you said people want "MOAR" GPU. Intel has no GPU.
That makes me want a competition to see who can build the best AI - the contest could be kind of like the pwn 2 own contest. Lessons learned could go into making better AI for future games, and the winners could get some prize money.
Aimbots are not your old time BOTs. I still remember my first BOT I downloaded for Quake 1, using a modem! It was the Reaper Bot. Another one that I forgot the name could even rocket jump. Those were true AIs that somewhat felt like humans. Best AI to this day has to be bots from both Quake 3 Arena and UT series.
I would also really like a competition for FPS AIs, but with heavy restriction. No hooks into client code. Just video stream and audio feed for input.
This is why I never purchased Crysis 2 and likely won't purchase Crysis 3.
The single player game was gorgeous, and the graphics were stunning.
The game had enormous multiplayer potential, but - For all their expertise in making a graphics engine, they didn't know jack shit about networked multiplayer.
If a player shot a pistol at another player, take a guess where the decision on amount of damage done was made? You'd think that after years of online gaming, it would be the correct answer: The server.
You'd be wrong - The damage calculations were done BY THE CLIENT
Sounds like ARMA / ARMA 2. There is a very popular mod called DayZ ( http://dayzmod.com/ ) for ARMA2. It features persistent character and permanent death. Popular cheats involve : -calling thermonuclear strike on a whole 250km2 island killing up to 50 players instantly -throwing whole server population into the air, they all die when they fall down -uploading your own mission file to the server spawning AI, This one is quite clever:) Ranging from spawning 3 women in Burqas following each player:DDD through small military convoy shooting all players on sight, ending with full blown carpet bombing done by AI. -spawning items out of thin air. Somehow Arma lets ordinary players spawn a BATTLESHIP on top of a building:) not to mention all the guns, equipment and vehicles your heart desires. -speed hacks / invisibility / aimbots / invincibility / flying (yes, player can tell server his position and server will just place him there without asking).
-and my fav, changing whole server population into goats!:o)
All that possible while being ordinary player joining MULTIPLAYER server, server that talks to a master server supposedly keeping track of all the players. Did I mention their standard security practice was to ask server admins to mail RDP passwords for all the servers, in cleartext? and that the official mail account got hacked and most of the servers turned into malware zombies for almost a week? and the official website and forum deleted, including most recent backups:D Shit is hilarious.
Some of those companies just ignore past 10 years of experience and reinvent the wheel (or just cover their ears/eyes and pretend there is no problem):(.
Someone once told me this, and it makes sense to me...
They lied. Poland is second in those stats with half the people, better cull percentage, quarter of Russia population, and virtually non existent Chess culture:)
You wont notice it because -human brain adapts, people dont notice how shitty Console gaming is, >50ms input lag, >50ms Video lag introduced by TV postprocessing. People even tolerate OnLive lag. -its so bad certain types of apps are just not being made for Android (anything that makes lag obvious, like audio trackers)
Specs vary from device to device, but 100ms won't get you certified on any modern Android device. Modern Android devices meet or beat what Apple is providing and has done so for at least one generation.
You can safely chock up his post as troll at worst or ignorant at best.
Certified? lol
Clearly this is why we have all those music trackers on Android... oh wait, we dont because they are impossible to implement with those input/sound API delays. Android Audioserver, audioslinger has ~200ms lag out of the box, on EVERY SINGLE DEVICE ON THE MARKET.
If they are talking about a scheduler change, that is very likely a kernel modification.
Android has its own scheduler, in java and everything. This is why you get FPS drops on dual core 1.5GHz phones while on home screen just sliding tabs around, or 100ms Audio LAG, or >100ms input lag..
That is too much non-specific not enough cash being paid to me.
Now you'll be going to domain.tickets for your ticketing needs.
In your example the user would need to know which domain to go to while in the new paradigm the user will only need to know what domain to go to. Much more efficient.
you are joking, right? User and knowledge? thats what Google is for.
This has always been seen as a big problem. People thought that all the advances in technology would obsolete a bunch of jobs. It wasn't long ago that many white collar workers had their own secretary. Those jobs don't exist anymore. We've been pretty good at finding jobs for "normal" or "mediocre" people for the past 100 years, but I see it slowly coming to a point where there are very few jobs in America (or "the west" for that matter) for normal people. Self checkout grocery stores, online shopping, no more music and video stores, robots assembling cars, all of this stuff adds up. People will either have to get a skill doing something that can't be off-shored or done by robots, like car mechanic, barber, tailor, etc. There won't be much room for people working in the manufacturing sector, retail sector, or many other shrinking industries.
Lets clarify something. When you say "normal", do you actually mean useless uneducated high school dropouts with no skills?
Or other way to demo what the user is seeing and send the signal to a nice big projector screen for Steve Balmer to scream about? I realize it is super small but this just seems like a pretty basic aspect. How do I debug the thing?
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Looking at JavaFX it would be better he would invest into the future of his company then into some tropical island
Why would he do that? Prosperity of the company has ZERO correlation with his own. If anything he will get another fat bonus and platinum parachute.
people in africa have been starving since i was a kid. too bad when you send them food the government takes it
No. When you send them food they eat it, turn around and fuck to have some more children, after all food will just appear out of thin air.
Agreed. If it were melanoma, my whole family would be shitting our genes.
GET IT?!?!
I dont. If you have shitty genes and you know it you shouldnt reproduce.
Well, you're not going to get 1080p resolution on a 5" device the next couple of years, so WP8 will be fine with 1280x720.
oh RLY?
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/5-inch-lg-display-packs-440ppi-1080p-resolution-20120528/
I wonder if Google can make it through their tablet presentation without one of their tablets locking up
Any more than, say, "Let's plug it in" back in 1998?
and dont try to talk to your tablet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klU2zt1KdUY
You mean like a human brain?
I guess it depends upon the person you are talking about.
In all seriousness though, the human brain is still very much a black box, depending upon what area you are focusing on. Some of the processes are more or less scripted in some way (i.e. keep the heart beating) where as others have a large question mark next to them for how they might work (i.e. the creative process of artists).
Its neural networks all the way down. OP ( ledow ) missed whole science field of machine learning. Stupid perceptron will learn to "distinguish two frequencies of input".
FUCK law enforcement.
I find it sad that people actually think AI or any sort of AI is actually present here, or improving when they read about things like this.
There is no intelligence here. Nothing. There's no guesswork, only statistics, rigorously calculated and applied the same every single time. It's a heuristic. It's programmed. It's immutable. It's basically a targeted improvement on a naive brute-force algorithm.
You mean like a human brain?
I want my daughter to ask for a lunch box with a picture of Liu Yang or Sally Ride,
Why? What's wrong with Disney princesses?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT2R3E7vDUc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8xCgC3w1zs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuk-h2ZYNJU
Sorry, you think this looks healthy and tasty? Uh huh...
It does, to Americans.
AMD will most likely be stuck at the niche they are now, at least as long as they stick with the faildozer "half a core" design so that just leaves Intel and ARM and with the money, the fabs, and the R&D budget that Intel has i think it'd be crazy to call it for ARM at this stage of the game.
Its not a half a core its a full core with a shared FPU/SIMD unit
oh, but but, but look at SuperPi score! AMD sucks!!!1 :) While next AMD CPU will finally implement their Fusion vision and connect GPU to CPU on cache level. Who needs SSE/FPU when you can just crunch double precision on the on die GPU.
Haha, those are the arguments I hear daily
You and the other poster seem to be forgetting ONE thing, which is nobody gives a shit how low the power draw is if it can't do what they want and what people WANT is MOAR, MOAR HD, MOAR games with MOAR graphics, MOAR MOAR MOAR.
and how is a CPU going to solve this problem? like you said people want "MOAR" GPU. Intel has no GPU.
That makes me want a competition to see who can build the best AI - the contest could be kind of like the pwn 2 own contest. Lessons learned could go into making better AI for future games, and the winners could get some prize money.
Aimbots are not your old time BOTs.
I still remember my first BOT I downloaded for Quake 1, using a modem! It was the Reaper Bot. Another one that I forgot the name could even rocket jump. Those were true AIs that somewhat felt like humans. Best AI to this day has to be bots from both Quake 3 Arena and UT series.
I would also really like a competition for FPS AIs, but with heavy restriction. No hooks into client code. Just video stream and audio feed for input.
This is why I never purchased Crysis 2 and likely won't purchase Crysis 3.
The single player game was gorgeous, and the graphics were stunning.
The game had enormous multiplayer potential, but - For all their expertise in making a graphics engine, they didn't know jack shit about networked multiplayer.
If a player shot a pistol at another player, take a guess where the decision on amount of damage done was made? You'd think that after years of online gaming, it would be the correct answer: The server.
You'd be wrong - The damage calculations were done BY THE CLIENT
Sounds like ARMA / ARMA 2. :) Ranging from spawning 3 women in Burqas following each player :DDD through small military convoy shooting all players on sight, ending with full blown carpet bombing done by AI. :) not to mention all the guns, equipment and vehicles your heart desires.
There is a very popular mod called DayZ ( http://dayzmod.com/ ) for ARMA2. It features persistent character and permanent death. Popular cheats involve :
-calling thermonuclear strike on a whole 250km2 island killing up to 50 players instantly
-throwing whole server population into the air, they all die when they fall down
-uploading your own mission file to the server spawning AI, This one is quite clever
-spawning items out of thin air. Somehow Arma lets ordinary players spawn a BATTLESHIP on top of a building
-speed hacks / invisibility / aimbots / invincibility / flying (yes, player can tell server his position and server will just place him there without asking).
-and my fav, changing whole server population into goats! :o)
All that possible while being ordinary player joining MULTIPLAYER server, server that talks to a master server supposedly keeping track of all the players. :D Shit is hilarious.
Did I mention their standard security practice was to ask server admins to mail RDP passwords for all the servers, in cleartext? and that the official mail account got hacked and most of the servers turned into malware zombies for almost a week? and the official website and forum deleted, including most recent backups
Some of those companies just ignore past 10 years of experience and reinvent the wheel (or just cover their ears/eyes and pretend there is no problem) :(.
Someone once told me this, and it makes sense to me...
They lied. :)
Poland is second in those stats with half the people, better cull percentage, quarter of Russia population, and virtually non existent Chess culture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOje7dcRlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc_RAsoVIFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPfK_EkBCjs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzXRyFQM3Ts
You wont notice it because
-human brain adapts, people dont notice how shitty Console gaming is, >50ms input lag, >50ms Video lag introduced by TV postprocessing. People even tolerate OnLive lag.
-its so bad certain types of apps are just not being made for Android (anything that makes lag obvious, like audio trackers)
Specs vary from device to device, but 100ms won't get you certified on any modern Android device. Modern Android devices meet or beat what Apple is providing and has done so for at least one generation.
You can safely chock up his post as troll at worst or ignorant at best.
Certified? lol
Clearly this is why we have all those music trackers on Android ... oh wait, we dont because they are impossible to implement with those input/sound API delays. Android Audioserver, audioslinger has ~200ms lag out of the box, on EVERY SINGLE DEVICE ON THE MARKET.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOje7dcRlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc_RAsoVIFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPfK_EkBCjs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzXRyFQM3Ts
Apparently Samsung, HTC and others just bootleg Android. Wait, why am I talking to an anonymous Fanboi?
And my Mustang isn't as fast as a Ferrari. It's still rather decent.
Does your Mustang manage frame drops on home screen on dual core 1GHz SoC? >100ms audio lag? >100ms input lag? Android does.
If they are talking about a scheduler change, that is very likely a kernel modification.
Android has its own scheduler, in java and everything. This is why you get FPS drops on dual core 1.5GHz phones while on home screen just sliding tabs around, or 100ms Audio LAG, or >100ms input lag..
You love the fact you spend $200 for Xbox MICROPHONE? thats great man.
You forgot ghosts and aliens.
If I see that orange guy
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ancient-aliens-i-dont-know-therefore-aliens.jpg
Whilst many things about American culture are lamentable, I would not say that fattened and sweetened chocolate is "American"
except you can buy american "chocolate" with no chocolate in it.
That is too much non-specific not enough cash being paid to me.
Now you'll be going to domain.tickets for your ticketing needs.
In your example the user would need to know which domain to go to while in the new paradigm the user will only need to know what domain to go to. Much more efficient.
you are joking, right? User and knowledge? thats what Google is for.
This has always been seen as a big problem. People thought that all the advances in technology would obsolete a bunch of jobs. It wasn't long ago that many white collar workers had their own secretary. Those jobs don't exist anymore. We've been pretty good at finding jobs for "normal" or "mediocre" people for the past 100 years, but I see it slowly coming to a point where there are very few jobs in America (or "the west" for that matter) for normal people. Self checkout grocery stores, online shopping, no more music and video stores, robots assembling cars, all of this stuff adds up. People will either have to get a skill doing something that can't be off-shored or done by robots, like car mechanic, barber, tailor, etc. There won't be much room for people working in the manufacturing sector, retail sector, or many other shrinking industries.
Lets clarify something. When you say "normal", do you actually mean useless uneducated high school dropouts with no skills?
Or other way to demo what the user is seeing and send the signal to a nice big projector screen for Steve Balmer to scream about? I realize it is super small but this just seems like a pretty basic aspect. How do I debug the thing?
you cant show picture using wooden mockup.