I agree that having a standard is a good thing...
But I don't like people having to be forced in to accepting a standard that isn't support by any other operating systems. How is people developing for linux gonna support it?
I remember a computer mag I read a long time ago that had an award for awful games called "Ejnar". I always looked for those those reviews first because they where usually the funniest.
Ofcourse that's a magazine and not a site. But I still wouldn't buy anything based only on a good review.
I've trying/using SDL for quite some time and I'm wondering if DOS support is planned... I like the way that Allegro is supported on so manny platforms, but I feel SDL is better when used on linux.
Some posts are talking about using the water for drinking...
Well I don't know.
I've been warned about just drinking the water in a foreign country and now you're talking about drinking water from another planet?
I sure would hate to be spending my time on mars on the can.
I've actually been thinking about this.
Is there a difference between copy-pasting GPL'ed code (which of couse requires you to release your modfied code under the GPL)
and simply viewing some GPL'ed code to get the general idea of how something is done and then writing you own stuff?
Yeah it sounds lame, but you're not technically using any of the GPL'ed code in your program are you?
And exactly how is the command line stopping the GUI from working in any way?
I know Linux is still lacking things to make it everybodys OS but I don't see how the command line is at fault.
Windows ME sure became a lot nicer when they removed the option of booting in to DOS...
But really, I'd be happy to coexist with Windows.
And if game company's would put a little effort into making their games cross platform I'd be really happy.
They could put Windows, Linux, Mac and what not binaries on the cd, have it all boxed up in the same package and they'd have a much bigger market without having to worry about not selling not of the Linux or what ever version.
Just did... now my face is red and swollen, I can barely make a facial expression and my nose is covered with a sticky yellow fluid.
Back to the nerd cave I say! If there ever comes a next time I must remember sun screen.
Aah, I've been waiting for a Microsoft post so this wouldn't be completely offtopic (thought I guess it still is, sorry)...
Has anyone else noticed that the new ms office logo has a swastika in the middle? Now we have solid proof that they are an evil empire!
(Meant as an observation and a stupid joke, don't be angered ok?)
Next thing we know this is hooked up to some game with sophisticated AI which then tries to control you:
CPU:"Alright, listen up human! You do as I say or I'll push the button! Go fetch me some more ram"
PLAYER:"No I" BZZZZ! "ARRGH!"
CPU:"And a new cpu, and an orange juice now that you're at it. And don't even think about shutting off the power silly human"
PLAYER:"This is an outrage, I wo" BZZZ! "AARGH!"
CPU:"HAHAHA!" BZZZ!
Where do you get that 8 and 4 byte increments from? The smallest data size is still one single byte(right? now I'm starting to doubt my self) no matter how many bits the processor is.
And that's why you use all those L\GPL'ed libraries and code.
Please, does it even make sense to you?
"I got better things to do than actually put some effort in to making this. I'm just in it for the money".
That's it right? You're lazy? Hey I'm lazy too, but I don't mooch.
Actually I'm just plain old sick of all this focus on pleasing the business for linux. Sure, ok, we need drivers and such, and I don't mind commercial apps and all. But I could care less if the econemy suffers or cooperations aren't making any money. I never asked for any of this. I'm content with linux (and free software in general) as it is and how it works and I can only really see it improving. Maybe I'm beeing overly optimistic, but I still don't really care. The future will come, commercial or not. And I betcha free software will still be here.
They're probaly talking about toolkits, widgets, whatever they're called, such as QT and GTK.
And it isn't really that much of a problem, all you gotta do is have the apropriate toolkit installed.
And you can run programs using different toolkits at the same time as you said so yourself.
I do agree with Microsoft that a standard desktop is good, but a standard desktop on linux will probaly come around by natural selection. One desktop will simply have more users than the others. Forcing people to use one specific is not a good thing.
Which were paid by our taxes, so we should be able to use them without constraint
Hey, I payed for windows 3.11, I want to use that with out constraint too (no, not really, just trying to make a point). Well, I'm not a u.s. citizen anyway so that leaves me out of this discussion I guess.
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"However, the POSE used for the previous Clie is still available, AS IS ITS SOURCE!"
So? the point of the GPL is to share the code... saying "well, you can still get the old source" doesn't really make a lot of sense.
"but it probably wasn't quite ready for prime time just yet."
This I'm a bit unsure about, aren't you required to pass long the code from day one, or is it alright to wait until you see fit? I doubt it.
Yes, true, the GPL isn't totally free.
But I see nothing wrong with demanding that anyone using your code has to release their code as well.
The way I see it the only reason to have a grouch against the GPL is if you want to use free code to make money of it, but I may have missed some specific case... correct me if I'm wrong.
If you don't like the license, find something that does the same thing released under the BSD license, or go do it yourself.
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I agree that having a standard is a good thing...
But I don't like people having to be forced in to accepting a standard that isn't support by any other operating systems. How is people developing for linux gonna support it?
Cool reviews = sucking up or an honest review?
I remember a computer mag I read a long time ago that had an award for awful games called "Ejnar". I always looked for those those reviews first because they where usually the funniest.
Ofcourse that's a magazine and not a site. But I still wouldn't buy anything based only on a good review.
I've trying/using SDL for quite some time and I'm wondering if DOS support is planned... I like the way that Allegro is supported on so manny platforms, but I feel SDL is better when used on linux.
Glide is only for the voodoo chipsets
I bet it was trying to tear out the eyes of our beloved cydonia! (what! that's not cydonia?)
Some posts are talking about using the water for drinking...
Well I don't know.
I've been warned about just drinking the water in a foreign country and now you're talking about drinking water from another planet?
I sure would hate to be spending my time on mars on the can.
Onlf true if they were to pass their improved version on, and why would they do that?
I've actually been thinking about this.
Is there a difference between copy-pasting GPL'ed code (which of couse requires you to release your modfied code under the GPL)
and simply viewing some GPL'ed code to get the general idea of how something is done and then writing you own stuff?
Yeah it sounds lame, but you're not technically using any of the GPL'ed code in your program are you?
And exactly how is the command line stopping the GUI from working in any way?
I know Linux is still lacking things to make it everybodys OS but I don't see how the command line is at fault.
Windows ME sure became a lot nicer when they removed the option of booting in to DOS...
But really, I'd be happy to coexist with Windows.
And if game company's would put a little effort into making their games cross platform I'd be really happy.
They could put Windows, Linux, Mac and what not binaries on the cd, have it all boxed up in the same package and they'd have a much bigger market without having to worry about not selling not of the Linux or what ever version.
Ooh ooh! Don't forget us danes (4th of may).
Just did... now my face is red and swollen, I can barely make a facial expression and my nose is covered with a sticky yellow fluid.
Back to the nerd cave I say! If there ever comes a next time I must remember sun screen.
Has anyone else noticed that the new ms office logo has a swastika in the middle? Now we have solid proof that they are an evil empire!
(Meant as an observation and a stupid joke, don't be angered ok?)
Next thing we know this is hooked up to some game with sophisticated AI which then tries to control you:
CPU:"Alright, listen up human! You do as I say or I'll push the button! Go fetch me some more ram"
PLAYER:"No I" BZZZZ! "ARRGH!"
CPU:"And a new cpu, and an orange juice now that you're at it. And don't even think about shutting off the power silly human"
PLAYER:"This is an outrage, I wo" BZZZ! "AARGH!"
CPU:"HAHAHA!" BZZZ!
Where do you get that 8 and 4 byte increments from? The smallest data size is still one single byte(right? now I'm starting to doubt my self) no matter how many bits the processor is.
:)
2^32 = 4.294.967.296 adressable bytes (or 4Gb)
2^64 = 1.844674407e+19 adressable bytes. (dunno, a lot
Ye see.. the adressable range just doubles with each new bit.
get a glue?... I'm rubber you're glue
Not to be picky or anything, because the game does look great, but... hey! nice gouraud shaded sand back there!
And that's why you use all those L\GPL'ed libraries and code.
Please, does it even make sense to you?
"I got better things to do than actually put some effort in to making this. I'm just in it for the money".
That's it right? You're lazy? Hey I'm lazy too, but I don't mooch.
Actually I'm just plain old sick of all this focus on pleasing the business for linux. Sure, ok, we need drivers and such, and I don't mind commercial apps and all. But I could care less if the econemy suffers or cooperations aren't making any money. I never asked for any of this. I'm content with linux (and free software in general) as it is and how it works and I can only really see it improving. Maybe I'm beeing overly optimistic, but I still don't really care. The future will come, commercial or not. And I betcha free software will still be here.
They're probaly talking about toolkits, widgets, whatever they're called, such as QT and GTK.
And it isn't really that much of a problem, all you gotta do is have the apropriate toolkit installed.
And you can run programs using different toolkits at the same time as you said so yourself.
I do agree with Microsoft that a standard desktop is good, but a standard desktop on linux will probaly come around by natural selection. One desktop will simply have more users than the others. Forcing people to use one specific is not a good thing.
and why should the geeks care about what the end users prefer?
Oh dear god, for a moment I thought he was talking about an asteroid.
Please! try to keep that aqua thing a secret... and yeah, we're the capital of Sweeden.
Hey, I payed for windows 3.11, I want to use that with out constraint too (no, not really, just trying to make a point). Well, I'm not a u.s. citizen anyway so that leaves me out of this discussion I guess.
"However, the POSE used for the previous Clie is still available, AS IS ITS SOURCE!"
So? the point of the GPL is to share the code... saying "well, you can still get the old source" doesn't really make a lot of sense.
"but it probably wasn't quite ready for prime time just yet."
This I'm a bit unsure about, aren't you required to pass long the code from day one, or is it alright to wait until you see fit? I doubt it.
No, it's about sharing code basicly...
Wich brings along a lot of freedom, unless you want to make it "yours".
Now i'll stop writing on this thread before I get too redundant.
Yes, true, the GPL isn't totally free.
But I see nothing wrong with demanding that anyone using your code has to release their code as well.
The way I see it the only reason to have a grouch against the GPL is if you want to use free code to make money of it, but I may have missed some specific case... correct me if I'm wrong.
If you don't like the license, find something that does the same thing released under the BSD license, or go do it yourself.