Couldn't/wouldn't they just move the project outside of the country to avoid issues? OpenBSD doesn't have to abide by crpyto export rules because they are in Canada, for instance.
Of course, I suppose the argument could be used for pretty much every project that is likely to be mentioned.
But OP specifically was talking about laoptops, not phones. For phones, yes -- people understand you have to get whatever it is for that specific device.
x86 compat is less important for us slashdotter types because we can compile the vast majority of software that we use from sources for whatever platform (bsd, linux) and architecture (x86, arm, sparc) we're usuing.
The people who expect to be able to buy software to run on hardware that they also bought -- they might care -- just a little bit -- I would imagine.
I meant to quote all of:
Lathrop figures it can't be too hard to get a magnetic field â" after all, most planets in our solar system have one.
But while nature has an easy time making magnetic fields, scientists do not. This is Lathrop's third attempt. there we go. but the point still remains, yes - he's tried and failed before. Hopefully this time he'll manage it.
I do respect him. I think he's crazy, but he's made some good stuff.
The point I was trying to make revolves largely around his disregard for profit motive. To talk about making a splash in the "market" in an economic sense is rather the wrong term when dealing with his stuff.
Has GNU software impacted the market? Yes. Does he care that it has affected the flow of money? Not really, except insofar as more people have access to free tools.
its also pretty obvious that he wants his kernel to be at the heart of his os and that is his ultimate goal. its quite obvious that he resents that people call the who system "linux" -- no one here can possibly have not noticed the big stink about saying 'gnu/linux.'
But rms DOESN'T want to see more "linux" on the "market" -- he wants to see more GNU in use. The linux kernel is just a patch-step for him and I think he hates it because its not GNU, its just GPL.
I suspect that he'll get even more incredulous if and when HURD ever gets finished.
Yes, and Israel constantly spies on the US as well. Just because someone is your "ally" doesn't mean that they always will be, and I suspect that all countries keep tabs on as many others as they possibly can.
In the generic sense, there is "nothing wrong with" this, but whatever can get people to realize that outsourcing and free trade, especially with commies like China is bad for us, then I'm cool with attention being brought.
It's only an issue if they start making stuff up. I'm not cool with being lied to, even if I like what I'm being told.
No, but eBay is pretty much the only game in town as far as auctions that don't involve guns, ww2 relics from certain countries, and anything else cool go.
By saying that you have to use their own system for transactions is therefore fairly anti-competitive. It's like Standard Oil or US Steele owning the mines, the rail roads, the plants, and the houses where the workers lived. Its designed to save them money by controlling the whole process, not make things more convenient for you.
Yes, paypal is pretty ubiquitous, and google checkout is sort of the discover card of checkout systems. However, when the auto parts store on one side of the street doesn't take mastercard and the one right across the street from you does - you can choose to go the one that takes your card.
There isn't really a serious competitor to eBay, so its lock-in.
I fail to see how social networks or multicore CPUs have "changed the world" or will. I would think that advances in energy efficient hardware, "green" power generation, hydroponic and other greenhouse technologies (to allow for year-round, local production of food even in places where the climate is totally lame) would be more likely to "change the world," and are things that people actually NEED to happen.
No one NEEDs Facebook. I'm actively considering deleting my account, personally. No one is going to remember "mashups" in 50 years -- and their introduction is certainly going going to figure on a time line likely to go into any reputable history text book.
So, I actually went and R'd the FA, because I was curious about this phrase -- of course, it doesn't appear in the article, so I can only assume that it was the submitter's invention.
That said, what, exactly, constitutes the "grown-up table" and who sits there? Does it mean that they're now a player against Red Hat? Against Sun? "Endorsed" by Microsoft?
What exactly are the rules of the game at this point. 10-15 years ago, BSD and Linux were going head-to-head against commercial UNIX, such as Solaris, HP-UX and the like. Now, Sun is getting back to its roots and open sourcing Solaris (Bill Joy, original BSD author and creator of vi and csh was a founding partner of Sun, after all).
It seems that from old metrics, the "grown ups" are trying to sit at the "kid table."
Does that indicate that we now look at Microsoft as "grown up?" Are we talking merely from a business standpoint, not technological? I surely hope that is the case.
I would second this. Every time I have to go to the Hill, every one there is on their blackberries. My friends that are Congressional staffers all get them from work for official communications. It's friggin' blackberries all over the place, and you never see anything else.
Personally, I stick with my motorola krazer and my palm tx - but if I were to get a smartphone I'd buy a Palm Treo. Never occurred to me why they love blackberry so friggin' much until this story.
Even watching it go on live while I was in high school, it always struck me that a company that didn't actually sell anything was pretty much doomed to failure.
Slopping some "information" up on a web page, hoping that enough people will "recognize" your "brand" and choose/you/ as their source for whatever stupid crap they were talking about, and then trying to sell ads to other companies...
who made out well from the.com boom? sun, cisco and whoever makes those aeron chairs -- 'cause they were actually selling stuff. ratemypetrock.com or whatever sort of ideas that people had failed because they were stupid.
then again, I'm sure if I could have justified sporks as an "e-commerce solution," I could have been a billion heir for 15 minutes, too.
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Couldn't/wouldn't they just move the project outside of the country to avoid issues? OpenBSD doesn't have to abide by crpyto export rules because they are in Canada, for instance.
Of course, I suppose the argument could be used for pretty much every project that is likely to be mentioned.
But OP specifically was talking about laoptops, not phones. For phones, yes -- people understand you have to get whatever it is for that specific device.
x86 compat is less important for us slashdotter types because we can compile the vast majority of software that we use from sources for whatever platform (bsd, linux) and architecture (x86, arm, sparc) we're usuing.
The people who expect to be able to buy software to run on hardware that they also bought -- they might care -- just a little bit -- I would imagine.
Its only flat when you cut it, at which point the holes cease to be hollows and are merely holes.
at any rate, the inquisition has marked you... don't say later that you didn't expect it!
But while nature has an easy time making magnetic fields, scientists do not. This is Lathrop's third attempt. there we go. but the point still remains, yes - he's tried and failed before. Hopefully this time he'll manage it.
But while nature has an easy time making magnetic So, yeah -- he's been trying (but failing) for a while.
INFIDEL!! The Earth can't be both flat AND hollow! I'll kill you!!! I'll kill you all!!!
Well, his name is BadAnalogyGuy, after all. Just add non-sequiturs to his bag of tricks and it'll all become obvious :-p
p.s. -- no offense to BadAnalogyGuy
I do respect him. I think he's crazy, but he's made some good stuff.
The point I was trying to make revolves largely around his disregard for profit motive. To talk about making a splash in the "market" in an economic sense is rather the wrong term when dealing with his stuff.
Has GNU software impacted the market? Yes. Does he care that it has affected the flow of money? Not really, except insofar as more people have access to free tools.
its also pretty obvious that he wants his kernel to be at the heart of his os and that is his ultimate goal. its quite obvious that he resents that people call the who system "linux" -- no one here can possibly have not noticed the big stink about saying 'gnu/linux.'
But rms DOESN'T want to see more "linux" on the "market" -- he wants to see more GNU in use. The linux kernel is just a patch-step for him and I think he hates it because its not GNU, its just GPL.
I suspect that he'll get even more incredulous if and when HURD ever gets finished.
They have to do with each other in that anything that makes the public leery of the Chinese is going to increase pressure to divest from them.
Yes, and Israel constantly spies on the US as well. Just because someone is your "ally" doesn't mean that they always will be, and I suspect that all countries keep tabs on as many others as they possibly can.
In the generic sense, there is "nothing wrong with" this, but whatever can get people to realize that outsourcing and free trade, especially with commies like China is bad for us, then I'm cool with attention being brought.
It's only an issue if they start making stuff up. I'm not cool with being lied to, even if I like what I'm being told.
It would be sweet revenge if they suddenly started seeing their government websites reporting "hacked by Tibet"
No, but eBay is pretty much the only game in town as far as auctions that don't involve guns, ww2 relics from certain countries, and anything else cool go.
By saying that you have to use their own system for transactions is therefore fairly anti-competitive. It's like Standard Oil or US Steele owning the mines, the rail roads, the plants, and the houses where the workers lived. Its designed to save them money by controlling the whole process, not make things more convenient for you.
Yes, paypal is pretty ubiquitous, and google checkout is sort of the discover card of checkout systems. However, when the auto parts store on one side of the street doesn't take mastercard and the one right across the street from you does - you can choose to go the one that takes your card.
There isn't really a serious competitor to eBay, so its lock-in.
So, we can now clean up the environment without losing the petrol? That's so good it has to be fattening.
This is the sort of thing which should have made the "top 10 technologies of the next 4 years" list rather than punk-ass "social networks"
While that is probably the case, I don't think its part of the GNU project. GNOME is, GNUStep is, GCC and EMACS are.
GNU is the OS. When HURD is finally done, GNU will just be GNU, unless its GNU/Linux. gNewSense is GNU/Linux.
Or something. Frankly, I find the whole situation to be rather tedious.
I've futzed with one before. I'm not much for "smart phones." I've used my friends' blackberries before, but quite unsuccessfully.
Then again, all I really want to do is make phone calls and the occasional sms.
They are trying to imply the GNUism. This is an officially FSF-sanctioned distro.
no wireless, less space than a nomad...lame.
seriously though, I thought this was going to be about a 4GB SSD hard disk for cheap, not yet-another-usb-key.
Wake me up when that happens.
I fail to see how social networks or multicore CPUs have "changed the world" or will. I would think that advances in energy efficient hardware, "green" power generation, hydroponic and other greenhouse technologies (to allow for year-round, local production of food even in places where the climate is totally lame) would be more likely to "change the world," and are things that people actually NEED to happen.
No one NEEDs Facebook. I'm actively considering deleting my account, personally. No one is going to remember "mashups" in 50 years -- and their introduction is certainly going going to figure on a time line likely to go into any reputable history text book.
3.14159... round
it's pi.
Zoroaster became Nietzche's Zarathustra, more or less.
So, I actually went and R'd the FA, because I was curious about this phrase -- of course, it doesn't appear in the article, so I can only assume that it was the submitter's invention.
That said, what, exactly, constitutes the "grown-up table" and who sits there? Does it mean that they're now a player against Red Hat? Against Sun? "Endorsed" by Microsoft?
What exactly are the rules of the game at this point. 10-15 years ago, BSD and Linux were going head-to-head against commercial UNIX, such as Solaris, HP-UX and the like. Now, Sun is getting back to its roots and open sourcing Solaris (Bill Joy, original BSD author and creator of vi and csh was a founding partner of Sun, after all).
It seems that from old metrics, the "grown ups" are trying to sit at the "kid table."
Does that indicate that we now look at Microsoft as "grown up?" Are we talking merely from a business standpoint, not technological? I surely hope that is the case.
I would second this. Every time I have to go to the Hill, every one there is on their blackberries. My friends that are Congressional staffers all get them from work for official communications. It's friggin' blackberries all over the place, and you never see anything else.
Personally, I stick with my motorola krazer and my palm tx - but if I were to get a smartphone I'd buy a Palm Treo. Never occurred to me why they love blackberry so friggin' much until this story.
Even watching it go on live while I was in high school, it always struck me that a company that didn't actually sell anything was pretty much doomed to failure.
/you/ as their source for whatever stupid crap they were talking about, and then trying to sell ads to other companies...
.com boom? sun, cisco and whoever makes those aeron chairs -- 'cause they were actually selling stuff. ratemypetrock.com or whatever sort of ideas that people had failed because they were stupid.
Slopping some "information" up on a web page, hoping that enough people will "recognize" your "brand" and choose
who made out well from the
then again, I'm sure if I could have justified sporks as an "e-commerce solution," I could have been a billion heir for 15 minutes, too.