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Gartner Reveals Top 10 Technologies For Next 4 Years

Dr. Jim writes "The good folks over at the Gartner Group have revealed the top 10 technologies that they believe will change the world over the next four years. The usual suspects including multi-core chips, virtualization, and cloud computing are on the list. Multicore servers and virtualization will mean that firms will need fewer boxes, and apps can be easily moved from box to box (and right out the door to an outsourced data center). Workplace social networks and cloud computing means that the need for a centralized IT department will go away. Firms will no longer need to own/maintain the boxes that they use to run their firm's apps. With no need to touch a box, there will be no need to have the IT staff co-located with the boxes."

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  1. Forgetting one thing by TJ_Phazerhacki · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Right. Completely virtualize and decentralize your environment. Save money! Work faster!

    What security?

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    1. Re:Forgetting one thing by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      Cloud Computing while a cool CS Concept and can be used in some cases. The fact that most apps are single threaded design will not gain any benefit from this and most companies don't need that level computing power. They would wast money and get small benefit. Unless they do some massive computing.

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    2. Re:Forgetting one thing by Maint_Pgmr_3 · · Score: 5, Informative
    3. Re:Forgetting one thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Right. Completely virtualize and decentralize your environment. Save money! Work faster! What security?

      "Completely lock down and secure your cloud. Limit legal liability! Work securely!" - sneak preview from Gartner's May 2018 issue

    4. Re:Forgetting one thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cloud Computing while a cool CS Concept and can be used in some cases. The fact that most apps are single threaded design will not gain any benefit from this and most companies don't need that level computing power. They would wast money and get small benefit. Unless they do some massive computing. Ugh, it's not called cloud computing in CS. It's distributed computing. Get it right dbag.
    5. Re:Forgetting one thing by jpedlow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm the I.T. guy for a company that has 20 staff in the office, and 200 employees, and also owns 3 other smallish companies. Good luck with virtualizing...we run tons of proprietary apps that the devs cant even figure out how to turn them into a service, let alone make them portable to use from a datacenter in god-knows-where-istan (or california, whichever has more crazies :P ) Then, there's our connection, which, lets face it, is business cable, and goes down on occasion...so we need an in-house server at all times. But the real problem is the PEBKAC problems that i run through every day, and those require in-house I.T...Every-Ten-Minutes... Downsize the I.T. dept? Good-Fracking-Luck. :P

    6. Re:Forgetting one thing by Lord+Ender · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It is true that virtualization technology allows businesses to do more IT functions with less IT staff. But it is also true that businesses are doing increasingly more IT functions all the time. So long as these factor balance each other out, IT will maintain its relatively low unemployment rate and its relatively high payscale.

      However, if this balance tips, companies will benefit while IT staff loses. I consider this a possible future scenario, so I live well within my means and use a large percentage of my salary to buy ownership positions in those very companies that stand to profit from my obsolesce. That way, even if I lose in one way I win in another.

      The stock market really is an amazing force for blurring the line between the working class and the ownership class, and I take full advantage of this power.

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    7. Re:Forgetting one thing by Bandman · · Score: 1

      sorry, but did you just call someone a douche bag for calling it cloud computing?

      What the hell is wrong with people? wow.

    8. Re:Forgetting one thing by Bandman · · Score: 1

      You're right. Large corporations will be the only "technology" companies to do stuff like this within 20 years.

      Small companies that aren't IT based could hire a contractor to take care of it for them without any issues.

    9. Re:Forgetting one thing by Bandman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It is true that virtualization technology allows businesses to do more IT functions with less IT staff.

      Actually I think it allows businesses to do more IT functions with less hardware. The staff still have to manage it. Otherwise you have an excellent strategy for retirement :-)

    10. Re:Forgetting one thing by tungstencoil · · Score: 1

      Teeny weeny peeny perhaps?

    11. Re:Forgetting one thing by laddhebert · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Cloud Computing while a cool CS Concept and can be used in some cases. The fact that most apps are single threaded design will not gain any benefit from this and most companies don't need that level computing power. They would wast money and get small benefit. Unless they do some massive computing. I had to reply to this.

      If you have a shop that has a very large compute farm that runs exclusively, batch jobs, then you can clearly understand where cloud computing can be a tremendous advantage. A lot of users of batch compute resources find creative ways to serialize and/or parallelize their overall process using scripts, multiple hosts, dependencies, etc. With cloud computing, all of this can be implemented automatically.

      That's a huge time and cost saver right there alone. Additionally, with our cloud computing solution (Electric Cloud), we get an additional advantage with the built in virtualization that comes along with the system. In the old days, we were forced to manage multiple development build stacks to satisfy the needs of multiple business units or departments. Now, we manage a cloud of hosts that are baseline installs, with bare minimal configurations, and the submit host's environment is replicated to the cloud nodes when a build is kicked off. This saves money on hardware resources, hardware resources, engineering resources, etc.

      You may think, well, most developers use the same build stack or tool stack - but that's an assumption that has been proven incorrect time and time again where I work. We work with embedded device developers and they have a very specific tool stack requirement, with specific versions, or may need a pristine build environment without the possibility of conflicts from various packages that may be installed on the build host.

      /-l

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    12. Re:Forgetting one thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful


      Cloud computing will probably work great in some instances... for some items in this list even, for web mashups, and social software intended to be used by the general public.

      Corporate IT apps? I don't see it. At least not with data that has any kind of sensitivity. And over time as government regulations increase, more and more data becomes less suitable for the 'cloud'

    13. Re:Forgetting one thing by severoon · · Score: 1

      You're right if you mean to say that most companies don't do security properly. You're wrong if you mean to say that most companies can't or won't make moves to do security properly in this new world.

      The fact is that hackers will have access to the power of massive parallelization in the cloud just as companies will. The difference is that hackers will have to find a way to continuously monetize the cycles and bandwidth they use if they're going to attack on a massive scale using the cloud. Either that, or they have to infect VMs of existing cloud-based infrastructures somehow and leverage that in a way that doesn't cause some detector to trip and reboot the instance from an uninfected image.

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    14. Re:Forgetting one thing by CBravo · · Score: 1

      1st line incidents can be solved by outsourcing which can do a pretty good job.

      Dinosaur age mainframes (and their applications) however... I've never seen it work properly because all systems are just 'too different' from each other and too much documentation has to be written (which isn't read or available).

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    15. Re:Forgetting one thing by johnnyheavens · · Score: 1

      LOL-10% of staff is IT? Unless you guys are an IT company and 50-100 of those people are in sales then impression you paint just might be right. Your business should outsource!

    16. Re:Forgetting one thing by Lord+Ender · · Score: 1

      Before, if I needed a new server, I had to request the hardware, then get it racked, then get the OS installed, then get the network cables hooked up. I had to create DR plans and make sure backup systems were working.

      Now, an entire system is created almost instantly by duplicating an existing VM image. DR and backups are automatic. This requires much less time (= less IT staff).

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    17. Re:Forgetting one thing by Bandman · · Score: 1

      Eh, don't mind me. I'm just jaded.

      *I'm* the IT staff here.

    18. Re:Forgetting one thing by jpedlow · · Score: 1

      No, I'm the I.T. guy. One. Singular. :P 20 in the office, 200 in the field = 220 employees. 1/220 ;) I keep quite busy! :P

  2. Maybe this means by roblarky · · Score: 1, Funny

    Telecommuting will finally be accepted for IT staff!

  3. yes, IT will vanish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because outsourced hosting always meets its SLAs! So your company will never need anyone who is able to talk their language and hold their feet to the fire. Oh happy day! Oh brave new world!

  4. Misleading summary; lean blog post by bbasgen · · Score: 5, Informative


      The article summary quotes a blog posting, *NOT* the Gartner study. Further, the blog posting only quotes the top ten items from Gartner, and provides no further data.

      The blogger is passing around FUD, without supporting those statements with any information from Gartner. This is a non-article with so little data.

    1. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by LMacG · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > The article summary quotes a blog posting

      Well of course it does. The submitter is the blogger, who must have needed some page hits for some reason. That's the second reason I didn't RTF(blog). The first is the name "Gartner" who will, of course, say anything as long as you're paying them enough.

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    2. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Informative

      The blogger is passing around FUD, without supporting those statements with any information from Gartner.

      And this is different from stuff actually by Gartner how? This is Gartner we are talking about, so if they did publish such a study, a more accurate title might be, "Top 10 technologies we have a vested financial interest in promoting"

    3. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by thanatos_x · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've read more than a few of their full tech summaries on the emerging trends, both by industry and year.

      Generally from year to year half the items would disappear from the lists (even though they were supposed to cover the next 5-10 years). In addition another quarter would randomly move about the "You'll see this technology in X years".

      Most of the rest were so obvious that it really wasn't worth mentioning, an up to speed person would have known that. Wireless will be big in the future (published 2005ish)? No way!

      The descriptions given for a technology(typically 2-3 paragraphs) were filled with jargon, and not terribly useful. Reading Popular Science and Mechanics was about as useful and far cheaper.

      So yes, the lesson is that you can't buy innovation or management skills for a company by spending 20,000 a year, but you can make a nice sum pretending to sell it.

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    4. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by ihatethetv · · Score: 2, Funny

      What are you going reading TFA!?!?!?! Get out of here with your fancy pants facts!

    5. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      without supporting those statements with any information from Gartner.
      Well who'd have guessed - it doesn't contain unicorn feathers or mermaid toes either.
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    6. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by glitch23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most of the rest were so obvious that it really wasn't worth mentioning, an up to speed person would have known that. Wireless will be big in the future (published 2005ish)? No way!

      The best part is that the Gartner reports I've seen ususally cost about $400 and probably average 8-10 pages. Not worth it in my opinion but then again for corporations who believe Gartner reports are prophecy I guesz $400 for a multi-billion dollar company isn't a big deal.

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    7. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by Soothh · · Score: 1

      Gartner i think invented FUD.... I have yet to meet a gartner person that was capable of finding their arse with both hands and a flash light.

      I have also yet to get a straight answer out of anyone from gartner... how they get away with charging for their "solution conference" phone calls ill never under stand.

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    8. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      arghhh!!!1 you won't like me when i'm angry!!!

    9. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > The article summary quotes a blog posting

      Well of course it does. The submitter is the blogger, who must have needed some page hits for some reason. That's the second reason I didn't RTF(blog). The first is the name "Gartner" who will, of course, say anything as long as you're paying them enough. I RTF(blog), but I cannot find any ads there. So generating ad-revenue directly from this site is not it.

      Could this article be part of a campaign to seed the idea "IT staff not needed, outsource IT"? There could be a web of sites/blogs/forum-cross-posts to get this idea out and in the minds of the masses.
    10. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by laddhebert · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Most of the rest were so obvious that it really wasn't worth mentioning, an up to speed person would have known that. Wireless will be big in the future (published 2005ish)? No way!

      The best part is that the Gartner reports I've seen ususally cost about $400 and probably average 8-10 pages. Not worth it in my opinion but then again for corporations who believe Gartner reports are prophecy I guesz $400 for a multi-billion dollar company isn't a big deal.

      Right, in a large corporation, when a new tool or application is brought in, it usually has to go through an architectural review, a readiness review, and various other reviews. One thing corporations like to know is whether or not the company that they are about to dump $10k per seat (much, much more in a lot of cases, I'm just throwing that number out there) license on is going to be around in 5 years when the corporation is neck deep in the implementation of that product. This is where the Gartner group comes in. It gives the company a starting point in the decision process on whether they are about to make a good investment and start a relationship with a proven entity.

      Also, a lot of corporations are not trend setters or trailblazers - they are followers. The execs all get together to see what the other companies are doing, what trends are popular and successful, and usually decisions are based on that. The Gartner group is perfect for this mindset.

      There are some large corporations out there that are IT risk takers and trendsetters, but I haven't been fortunate enough to work for many.

      /-l

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    11. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by glitch23 · · Score: 1

      Your response is geared towards the Magic Quadrant reports Gartner creates which are semi-useful. For those who don't know, Magic Quadrant reports take a bunch of companies which make a certain product (e.g. groupware or call center software) and divide the companies into 4 main quadrants on a graph: leaders, challengers, visionaries, and niche players. This gives corporations who are trying to determine which company's product to purchase some insight as to which company's product to choose based on how the company fits into the industry it is in. Maybe the level of detail is satisfactory for a CIO but I think actual trade studies are more useful. Magic Quadrants can however provide input into which companies should have the privilege of making it to round 2: trade studies. Other reports are basically like what this article is about where they prophesize the future. I find it a waste of money for reports to be purchased from Gartner given the lack of depth vs their cost. If you can't tell, I don't like Gartner. For the record, Gartner does have some reports which are free. They are usually geared toward just explaining a particular technology. The same info can really be gleaned from anywhere on the Internet which is why those types of reports are free.

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    12. Re:Misleading summary; lean blog post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or as Krusty would say "I could've pulled a better submission out of my ... Hey Hey Kids!"

  5. Let me be the first to say by moderatorrater · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'Duh'. Multicore processing? Are you fucking kidding me? You have to go out of your way to buy a computer that doesn't have multiple cores. Hybrid core? Wouldn't that be covered with the video cards opening up and letting generic code run on their processors? The rest are completely obvious in the same way. Anyone who's been watching computers for the past year could have compiled that list.

    1. Re:Let me be the first to say by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The rest are completely obvious in the same way. Anyone who's been watching computers for the past year could have compiled that list.

      You've just summed up most Gartner reports. =)

    2. Re:Let me be the first to say by Rinisari · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The hardware is there, yes, but the software is not. Not many applications are multithreaded/multiprocess.

    3. Re:Let me be the first to say by arktemplar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well I'm not sure about how they have used hybrid cores, but try multicores with one core being an - on the fly reconfigurable FPGA' these kind of things would be so totally awesome if used properly. I think IBM is moving along similar lines for it's CELL series, there may be a tie-up with Xilinx involved - that I'm not so sure of, but it can be used most interestingly.

      And is not all that obvious to most of the people who are just keeping up with computers rather than computing.

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    4. Re:Let me be the first to say by Reverend528 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You've just summed up most Gartner reports. =)
      Not everything they say is completely obvious. Remember when they told people to delay linux deployments until the SCO case was settled. Of course, that turned out to be terrible advice, but it was non-obvious.
    5. Re:Let me be the first to say by Beef+Supreme · · Score: 1

      Yeah, seems like this list is from about five or six years ago.

    6. Re:Let me be the first to say by moderatorrater · · Score: 1

      on the fly reconfigurable FPGA I've often thought that was the eventual course for making computers more like the human brain. We give up speed in specific, pre-defined problems for flexibility and higher speed for general problems with the ability to adapt to new ones (at least theoretically). With scripting languages, you could swap out, in real time, the most used functions into FPGAs. Need a fast string analyzer for the next ten minutes? Done. Need some fast array sorting for an hour? Done.

      Of course, I'm a software guy, so I can't say how feasible this really is, but the ability to reprogram 75% of the functionality of the chips would seem to be a good solution to almost every problem.
    7. Re:Let me be the first to say by Red+Flayer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Anyone who's been watching computers for the past year could have compiled that list.
      Duh. Gartner's target readers are not people who've been watching computers for the past year. Gartner's targets are the people who pay other people to watch computers, so that those people can pretend to know what they are talking about when they discuss new technologies with their minions.

      That's for generic articles like this one; Gartner does some targeted research and analysis that's better, particularly if you pay a lot of cash.
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    8. Re:Let me be the first to say by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Of course, that turned out to be terrible advice, but it was non-obvious.

      Ha! Amazing the subtle difference between "obvious advice" and "obviously bad advice". :)

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    9. Re:Let me be the first to say by afabbro · · Score: 5, Informative

      'Duh'

      Gartner is mainly known for two things:

      • "Duh"
      • Being wrong.
      Oh, and charging a lot. cf. Cringley's fine column on Gartner.
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    10. Re:Let me be the first to say by arktemplar · · Score: 1

      Well, not like the human brain, but yes the idea is correct. For the human brain there are other approaches that may be a lot more interesting and a lot more realistic to achieve.

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    11. Re:Let me be the first to say by chthon · · Score: 2, Informative

      It looks to me a solution with the same problems as microprogramming : looks good in theory, but too many strings attached in practice.

      One of the biggest obstacles I see is the fact that this FPGA does not run on its own : you need several interfaces (hard and soft) to the chip.

      • A programming interface
      • A data exchange interface (byte or block oriented ? or maybe both)
      • A driver of course, based upon the above byte or block oriented interface
      • An application library, containing the code to reprogram the FPGA. Can you standardise on just one type of FPGA for your host architecture ?
      • Also part of the application library, the code to interface with the programmed functionality.

      I won't say wide deployment is not possible, but before that happens a whole lot of standardisation needs to be done first.

  6. With high gas prices... by meglon · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Firms will no longer need to own/maintain the boxes that they use to run their firm's apps. With no need to touch a box, there will be no need to have the IT staff co-located with the boxes."

    ...and in further news: Rocks, Paper, Scissors poised for a comeback as non-IT personal try to establish who it is that has travel half way across the continent to push the "on" button.

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  7. 'augmented' reality? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's not new tech. I used to skip school and augment my reality every day.

    Sometimes I try to augment females' reality to trick them into thinking I'm attractive.

  8. Nothing to see here by Kohath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you make your predictions vague enough, they have a good chance of being correct (for generous interpretations of correct).

    I predict the next 4 years in technology is going to be similar to this year. This will end up being correct for generous definitions of "similar".

    1. Re:Nothing to see here by Gat0r30y · · Score: 1

      Its like the horoscope - Augmented reality? Dude, I know I'll be getting high in the next four years, but seriously, I don't see how that's any of IT's business.

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  9. From TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    1. Multicore and hybrid processors
    2. Virtualization and fabric computing
    3. Social networks and social software
    4. Cloud computing and cloud/Web platforms
    5. Web mashups
    6. User Interface
    7. Ubiquitous computing
    8. Contextual computing
    9. Augmented reality
    10. Semantics

    1. Re:From TFA by sm62704 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      1. Not future; in fact may have already jumped the shark (as has the phrase "jumped the shark")

      2. "Fabric computing"? WTF is "Fabric computing"? Wikipedia leaves me ignorant, as does TFA. When I saw the phrase I thought of the first computer I ever saw in 1964. It was attached to a loom and wove a cloth bookmark out of thread with a design you entered with a very primitive light pen. It was the coolest thing I'd ever seen in my life, but I doubt it's what these stupid yuppies are referring to.

      4. Cloud computing and cloud/Web platforms? WTF??? Yeah, I've seen that yupiespeak before. It's a diagram that shows the internet as a cloud and the phrase's user as a technology-clueless idiot.

      5. Web mashups? 1999 called and wants its newspeak du jour back.

      6. User Interface? Didn't ENIAC have an interface? Even if it was just plugs and wires?

      7. Ubiquitous computing? Hey everybody, Gartner discovered the internet!

      8. Contextual computing? You mean like not putting text data in a numeric field?

      9. Augmented reality? I already have it, click my sig for details. You will be assimilated, resistance is futile.

      10. Semantics? 1998 called, it wants its dotcom bubblegum back.

      Whoever's paying these idiots has WAY too much money and WAY too little sense. It's all babbling designed not for dissimination of information but instead obfuscation of the fact that the speaker doesn't have a fucking clue but wants you to think he's "real smart".

      Nothing to see here. Not even if you have three eyes.

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    2. Re:From TFA by DocHoncho · · Score: 1
      Re: "Fabric Computing"
      From http://www.itbusinessedge.com/item/?ci=12192&nr=1:

      Question: What is fabric computing and how does it improve upon current server technology?
      Mehrotra: The simplest way to think about it is the next-generation architecture for enterprise servers. Fabric computing combines powerful server capabilities and advanced networking features into a single server structure. The Q160, our flagship machine, starts with a scalable multiprocessor complex built around the Opteron. We've decomposed the processor complex into separate servers using hardware partitioning, and then added a powerful crossbar switch to provide virtualized I/O for networking and storage, plus built-in switching at Layer 2 and Layer 3. We end up with a new kind of server that can be partitioned and configured on the fly into different-sized servers using one chassis. When more capacity is needed, you can network a group together without third-party switching.
      In the fabric computing view, resources are no longer tied to a single machine. A customer buying a typical server does not know exactly how to configure it or what applications to run. In our systems, you're not locked into a predetermined set of assets. You can reconfigure on the fly without adding software layers that slow everything down. Everything is done on hardware at full speed. Remember, we're not talking about just changing CPU memory. We're talking about changing the network I/O. It reduces a lot of the complexity that customers struggle with. You no longer reconfigure machine by machine. You have complete control of the entire fabric.

      The best part? The company Fabric7, which was pimping this new paradigm is apparently defunct.
      http://search.sys-con.com/read/368244.htm
      WTG Gartner! At least Fabric7 paid for this little bit of advertisement before kicking the bucket.

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  10. IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by PoliTech · · Score: 1
    In an article describing Microsoft's mainstream containerized data centers (named "C-Blox") Microsoft general manager of data center services Michael Manos says his vision of the future of IT is IT workers who look more like "truckers and longshoremen than traditional IT workers".

    So are we now to believe that a "truckers and longshoremen" skills shortage shows need for an increase of the 85,000 H-1B visas already available?

    1. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by DAldredge · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Quote mining for the win! "In the C-blox world, a truck drops off a data center container and then picks it up again in a few years when Microsoft is ready to switch over to new hardware. Administrators will only enter the physical C-blox in the rarest of occasions. "In that sense, your IT workers look more like truckers and longshoremen than traditional IT workers," Manos said. It will also allow Microsoft to run the entire Northlake facility with a continuous staff of little more than 20 or 30 employees."

    2. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by Wheely · · Score: 1

      Is it magic cabling?

    3. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by statemachine · · Score: 1

      The author was probably thinking the cables would look and be attached like other truck trailer connections, making it more simple than adding 50 new types of connectors to figure out.

      I'm not sure about the tone. Was he saying that IT would be so simple a longshoreman could do it? Or that a longshoreman would be better than some IT workers?

    4. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by PoliTech · · Score: 1
      The "Quote mining" term is usually used as a pejorative. So are you accusing me of misquotation? Of an attempt to represent the views of the person being quoted inaccurately? Of taking the quote out of context?

      The summary says, "the need for a centralized IT department will go away. Firms will no longer need to own/maintain the boxes that they use to run their firm's apps. With no need to touch a box, there will be no need to have the IT staff co-located with the boxes."

      This is similar to what Manos described in April of this year. Except Manos added the "truckers and longshoremen" pejorative to his vision of the future of IT staffing.

      Since I Blogged, and /. Journaled about it in April, I thought it was interesting to see the same idea on the "roadmap" described in the summary. That's hardly "Quote mining".

    5. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I think he was just saying that IT workers should maybe try to lose some weight, bin the check shirts and for $deity's sake, wear a frickin' belt.

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    6. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      I apologize - I should have not used the term "quote mining" instead I should have said something like 'selective use of the linked article in a deliberate attempt to give your audience a distorted view of the subject at hand" Is that better?

    7. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by PoliTech · · Score: 1

      If so, then "Trolling" should be a sufficient description of your comment.

    8. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by Bandman · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Please connect 1MW power source here -->
      Please connect 1MW generator here -->
      Please connect OC-192 here -->

    9. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      So it is now trolling to point out that someone is paint a deliberately false picture?

    10. Re:IT envisioned as "truckers and longshoremen" by PoliTech · · Score: 1

      So it is now trolling to point out that someone is paint a deliberately false picture? Since I debunked your claim using your own quoted text, and yet you continued on with the sole intention of baiting myself or other users into an emotional response, and since you initially disrupted normal on-topic discussion with a spurious claim of "Quote Mining"...

      Why yes! It is trolling.

  11. Not the case... by HaloZero · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Workplace social networks and cloud computing means that the need for a centralized IT department will go away.

    But borne from the ashes of the 'centralized IT department' come the 'social networking support department'. Because no matter how intuitive you make it, someone won't get it. That fact, combined with the problem that the larger your corporation becomes, the more obfuscated every little thing is (I work for GE).

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  12. Contextual Computing is hilarious by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anyone remember the guy who's TiVo started recording a lot of gay movies? "My TiVo thinks I'm gay!"

    There is a lot of room to make big mistakes in this area of computing. Contextual Computing can lead to hilarious failures.

    1. Re:Contextual Computing is hilarious by marxmarv · · Score: 1

      I prefer the term "jovial".

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  13. High-level, better-trained IT workers opportunity! by compumike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While the article and summary want to scare IT workers ("Oh, oh -- can you hear your job going away?"), perhaps it's time to get back to the big picture: Information Technology is supposed to help people do their jobs more efficiently. So, while the article does much to suggest that server-side stuff might be getting "outsourced" to the cloud, people still need to interface with it. It'd be nice to see client systems taking steps forward in terms of reliability and ease of use, but nothing monumental is changing on that side of the equation.

    But, by outsourcing/concentrating the server-side administration to the "cloud", you might free up IT workers to do less grunt work and do more in terms of process innovations, making the whole enterprise more efficient. IT workers will have to think about how they can make the business operate more efficiently, and be creative and get it implemented. Are today's IT workers ready for that level of thinking?

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  14. Old! by neokushan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Cloud computing is already here, Valve invented it this morning!

    On another note, an unknown company is bringing out a sewing application that promises to push multithreading to it's limits.

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    1. Re:Old! by grommit · · Score: 1

      Sources say that the unknown company is Singer.

    2. Re:Old! by smbarbour · · Score: 1

      Or it could be Brother, and then you never know what kind of "multithreading" they're talking about.

    3. Re:Old! by uniquegeek · · Score: 1

      I have a Brother sewing machine, so I'm really... (na) It's not a serger, though.

  15. Outsourced information will come back by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No later than when companies notice that suddenly, surprisingly someone patents something they were on the verge of patenting themselves, when they notice that said company is somehow curiously located where their servers are.

    I guess even our business captains know that putting information into hands you can't control is a BAD idea. They should know. They've been gathering ours for years, and they know what value even trivial information (like your shopping habits) has.

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    1. Re:Outsourced information will come back by johnnyheavens · · Score: 1

      No later than when companies notice that suddenly, surprisingly someone patents something they were on the verge of patenting themselves, when they notice that said company is somehow curiously located where their servers are. I guess even our business captains know that putting information into hands you can't control is a BAD idea. They should know. They've been gathering ours for years, and they know what value even trivial information (like your shopping habits) has. So if you employ people rather than outsource to them your IP will be safer? That seems a bit of a pipe dream. Isn't most theft still the result of internal breaches? Seems to me that relocating your data may be better then in house in some cases. After all, a sneaky employee that steals data may or may not go away afterwards but a company who's job is managing machines and keeping your data locked up safe with people baby sitting it actually sounds pretty good to me. Outsource doesn't always mean India or China.
    2. Re:Outsourced information will come back by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      You have more control over people working for you than some company. There are two ways to make sure people working for you don't steal your work: technical and legal. Technically, you can simply make it impossible to take data outside the building. Now, that's something you can't when your data is sitting somewhere else. Worse, you HAVE to have some sort of external connection, since your data is outside of your company's physical location, something you can simply avoid by having your data in house.

      And second, it is WAY easier to sue an employee when data appears somewhere else (and you can prove that he, and only he, could have taken it, which is trivial with good logging) than some company.

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    3. Re:Outsourced information will come back by johnnyheavens · · Score: 1
      Less divine mastery from the IT gods it seems and more evolution perhaps?

      Worse, you HAVE to have some sort of external connection, since your data is outside of your company's physical location, something you can simply avoid by having your data in house. So you don't have the internet "in-house" and more then one location is the only way to run a safe business? Your internet is MUCH more likely to be your weak link in then a secured link between two locations. In todays world distance does NOT mean less secure.

      And second, it is WAY easier to sue an employee when data appears somewhere else (and you can prove that he, and only he, could have taken it, which is trivial with good logging) than some company. Easier how? Getting money and compensation from me personally will be MUCH harder then a company with say E&O insurance and deeper pockets then an individual. Logging is a non-detail because you can do that anywhere. In fact you could log remote actions but keep them "in-house". Poof! Like magic your logs could now be double secure! As to the legal aspects, pft! The same type of "binding" documents can be written in the event of a outsourcing partnership as with a employee. Stop thinking like an IT guy that might need a new job. The sky is not falling! Think like a company charged with outsourcing and a smart "guy" will find a way to get it done safely. If we are talking about Fortune 500 where money is not object then it doesn't matter much but we aren't. The original post is much more general and generally speaking outsourcing of most every IT related task is getting to be more feasible.
  16. Where have I heard this before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Distributed computing, centralized computing and back again.

  17. Troubleshooting Step #1 by dcollins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Client: I can't login.
    Troubleshooting Step #1: Make sure it's plugged in.

    Ergo, there will always be a need for IT staff co-located with the boxes.

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    1. Re:Troubleshooting Step #1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean IT staff co-located with the blockheads. The servers can be located anywhere on the Net, but you still need to be able to handhold the users.

      PEBKAC?
      Error ID-10T

  18. Something Old, Something New by Gonoff · · Score: 3, Funny

    Some/most of these things exist already, some of them are in use and relevant. Others are just excuses for avoiding work.

    1. Most of us have unused processor cores. Multicore is a great idea. Does this mean that someone might actually start writing software that uses them?
    2. We have an ever increasing number of virtual servers. Fabric computing might make for a better PDA or iPod but I can't see it being used in office environments for workers. Mostly for IT techs and Suits
    3. Handy for Sales Weasels but not business related for most of us.
    4. In use already. Many of us use web apps but they have yet to hit the big time. Possible...
    5. I can believe this one.
    6. Yes, computers will continue to have user interfaces...
    7. My phone is ubiqutous. I can believe that I will have a decent PC on me at all times.
    8. Needs more work to show me what that means. In the meantime - a buzzword.
    9. Overlays on the inside of my glasses? In some fields. HUDs for the masses.
    10. Another buzzword and needs clarification to me anyway
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    1. Re:Something Old, Something New by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      That post makes no sense at all! You just posted an incoherent list of things that sound like they're a reply to something... ;)

    2. Re:Something Old, Something New by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      um... RTFA

    3. Re:Something Old, Something New by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Woosh!

    4. Re:Something Old, Something New by onion_joe · · Score: 1
      Man, I am all about your #1. Can someone more knowledgeable than I please explain why a single core cpu is better/faster than a dual core under a 32 bit OS?

      What am I missing? last I knew it was apps like AutoCAD (perhaps Adobe CS) that had 64 bit versions, but everything else exists in 32 bit space (I am ignoring "exotic" apps, I used to work with RISC processors in the late '90's*. I am talking mainstream computing here.)

      If I am correct this is an abberation in mainstream computing: software needing to catch up with hardware, in other words, excess hardware capacity.

      somebody shout me down if I am clueless, please.


      *(SGI's, petroleum reservoir modeling if anyone cares. I was a college junior/senior with root access to some serious iron then. My memory is a bit hazy but I remember at least two Indigo 2's and an Octane or two under my direct admin, and contract work on a lab full of octanes. Sweet stuff for a 20 yr old :-) )

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    5. Re:Something Old, Something New by Gonoff · · Score: 1

      Yes, they are a reply to the article. I presume that when you posted, you had not actually read it.

      The purpose of the links in the /. article is to actually inform you. They are not there because they are a pretty colour...

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  19. Centralized IT isn't going away by lamontg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cloud computing doesn't make centralized IT go away.

    Amazon EC2 only provides you with servers. You still need system admins to configure and run and debug the boxes if you're doing anything remotely complicated.

    It does solve provisioning issues, procurement issues and lights-out management. But that is just a sliver of centralized IT.

    And having Amazon provide "remote hands" for you to replace failed hardware is not even a "centralized" part of IT. Even without cloud computing you shouldn't have your IT organization tightly coupled to where your sites are. All that you need is the occasional physical hardware replacement, and management of the facilities (power, cooling, etc).

    1. Re:Centralized IT isn't going away by Eponymous+Bastard · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But half the companies out there aren't actually doing anything complicated.

      I've been looking at open source ERP solutions (ERP5, Adempiere, etc.) and it makes me wonder whether you could set up a company that configures and manages servers and ERP systems. The actual boxes could be at your place or elsewhere.

      Basically, you can offer companies a complete package for HR, order management, invoicing, payroll, etc. without them having to hire a single extra person. You'd have to have a clause in the contract to give them all their data and server configuration on demand, of course, maybe even send them weekly backups as part of your disaster recovery plan.

      In the end you'd end up with a company of highly specialized people, giving your customers good response and high end features (mobile access? no problem), for less than it would cost them to have a team knowledgeable enough and able to do 24 hour support.

      Of course companies would still need help desk and business-specific software, but that's less people (and is sometimes outsourced/contracted out anyway). You web presence would probably be custom made though.

      And if you're an internet company, just forget it. (or then again, you hire a designer to provide custom CSS for the provider's web interface to the standard modules to the open source ERP system, which might be enough for half the sites out there too ...hmmm....)

    2. Re:Centralized IT isn't going away by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Cloud computing doesn't make centralized IT go
      >away.

      Then we need to invent something else. However;

      >Amazon EC2 only provides you with servers. You
      >still need system admins to configure and run and
      >debug the boxes if you're doing anything remotely
      >complicated.

      Then someone else will realize that there is a better business model. A model that actually benefits the clients.

    3. Re:Centralized IT isn't going away by lamontg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "But half the companies out there aren't actually doing anything complicated."

      Well, I'm responding to a very strong statement saying that cloud computing will "make centralized IT go away". And while it may do so for small business, which needs a couple dozen servers to run some "web 2.0" apps or a storefront or whatever, I doubt it will have much of an impact on the IT staffs at S&P 500 companies.

      If you look closely at Amazon's SLAs as well, they aren't going to be acceptable to most large companies. Financial institutions might be able to outsource some offline batch analysis and model crunching to EC2, but their online transactional processing that needs just stupid reliability isn't going to be transferable to Amazon's cloud.

      You are correct though that by sheer number, most companies are small and most companies don't have very complicated IT needs. However, "cloud computing will make centralied IT go away" is just silly if you've got a background at centralized IT at large companies.

      There will still be a lot of IT out there, it may just be bigger IT, and some of the small IT may be eliminated, or it may turn contract work.

  20. Uh, Excuse me! by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Firms will no longer need to own/maintain the boxes that they use to run their firm's apps. With no need to touch a box, there will be no need to have the IT staff co-located with the boxes."

    How do you access the "cloud" without a computer next to you?

    You have DSL embedded in your brain?

    Get a clue. Companies may not have conventional desktop PCs in their offices, but they're going to have to have SOME sort of computing device - if nothing but a thin client or even just a flat screen terminal or a BlackBerry - to access the computing resources.

    And those devices need servicing - if not much servicing.

    Anybody who thinks computers are leaving offices is so frickin' deluded I don't know what to say.

    Not to mention that your IT staff exists mostly to solve the problems with the SOFTWARE - not the hardware. And software problems aren't going away regardless of whether it's on the desk, on a server, or in the cloud.

    Who deals with those problems may change. Companies may very well outsource their IT support - I am the outsource for my clients - but all that means is they'll pay more for less (except in my case, 'cause I'm cheap.) Their overall cost may go down, but in many cases they'll get poorer service because the IT staff servicing their problems isn't a member of the company or on site and thus has less comprehension of the company's needs. There's nothing like being on site and in daily contact with the staff to see what a company's problems are.

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    1. Re:Uh, Excuse me! by smbarbour · · Score: 1

      I'd have to agree with you there. I'm a jack of all trades IT worker (formal title: Systems Admin). I'm responsible for keeping both the user PCs running as well as the servers.

      If the servers were no longer my responsibility, my job would change very little.

    2. Re:Uh, Excuse me! by blurryrunner · · Score: 1

      I think you you missed the point. What I gathered from the article was that there was no longer a need for the server admins be located physically near the servers--it all can be done remotely.

      In the context of the rest of the commentary, he's saying that an outsourced data center can manage the physical boxes, while sys admins can manage the "virtual boxes" remotely. That's not really a new concept except that it is becoming increasingly viable as the processing power of servers continue to advance. So the hardware administration will be outsourced while the software continues to be maintained in-house.

      I'm with you, though, computers are here to stay in businesses.

      br/

    3. Re:Uh, Excuse me! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Oh, they've let you out again?

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    4. Re:Uh, Excuse me! by hoppo · · Score: 1

      Server admins haven't needed to be co-located with the physical servers since the dawn of IP KVMs and Lantronix boxes. Virtualization makes management much easier, and multi-cores mean a smaller footprint, but this is nothing that is earth-shattering by any means.

    5. Re:Uh, Excuse me! by Bandman · · Score: 1

      Amen. I'm in exactly the same boat.

      Well, close anyway. I work on the servers a lot, but there are more servers than people. I'd still have a lot to do.

  21. He left off a word!!!! by Maint_Pgmr_3 · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?id=681107 "Gartner Identifies Top Ten Disruptive Technologies for 2008 to 2012"

  22. for low values of "change the world" by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    I fail to see how social networks or multicore CPUs have "changed the world" or will. I would think that advances in energy efficient hardware, "green" power generation, hydroponic and other greenhouse technologies (to allow for year-round, local production of food even in places where the climate is totally lame) would be more likely to "change the world," and are things that people actually NEED to happen.

    No one NEEDs Facebook. I'm actively considering deleting my account, personally. No one is going to remember "mashups" in 50 years -- and their introduction is certainly going going to figure on a time line likely to go into any reputable history text book.

  23. Re:High-level, better-trained IT workers opportuni by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    Unforntunaly not most. And espectially IT managers.

    IT Departments tend to work on keeping things running and less time analysing the buisness needs and seeing how IT can help improve it. In places that have such departments they companies run very well. When they focus on keeping things running... Things just fail.

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  24. Uh... by CopyMouse · · Score: 1

    Was that list published 4 years ago? :P

  25. cloud computing is latest buzzword by alen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    back in 2002 it was called web services, then it was web 2.0 and a few other things. the 2008 name is cloud computing. come early 2009 they will make up another name to hype at the conventions and get eyeballs to tech news websites

  26. Augmented reality by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    what the hell is "Augmented reality"??

    The only thing I could come up with is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg_(Star_Trek)>this

    Is it "more real than real"?

    Or is it just the latest buzzword to describe something nobody has thought of yet?

    I'm completely stumped, really I am.

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    1. Re:Augmented reality by sm62704 · · Score: 1

      See my sig; I have "augmented reality" via a CrystaLens implant. I am a cyborg. You will be assimilated. resistance is futile. We already have the Vice President of the US in our clutches!

      BTW, your link is wrong; it leads back to this article. I believe this is the link you are looking for. However, a better link is here (a dictionary lookup of the word "cyborg").

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    2. Re:Augmented reality by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      Read "Rainbows End" by Vernor Vinge for a cool take on Augmented Reality.

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    3. Re:Augmented reality by Drishmung · · Score: 1

      what the hell is "Augmented reality"?? Pop over to http://entertainment.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/31/015213
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  27. Re:High-level, better-trained IT workers opportuni by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only that, and you do make a hugely valid point, but all this IT infrastructure is ... well, it would grind office productivity to a halt if the printer is broken. Despite all the hardware, the paperless office has not yet taken off in any meaningful way. When the connection between your desktop and the printer is through a router that is on the other side of the country, and it takes 2 hours to get it working, productivity will drop significantly. To simply bleat on about moving the data center out into the cloud is blindly spewing PR like the run up to the invasion of Iraq.

    Much like outsourcing has come to be more expensive, so too will 'outsourcing' your data center. I'm sure that we've all heard of DDoS attacks. How convenient will they become when your data is on the other side of a router from your workers? Yeah, the SLAs sound good on paper, but oat 4:30 on a Friday of a long weekend, when your billing processes grind to a halt, how long will it take to get fixed? My personal favorite is the data center people telling me it is an application error. The billing department is telling me that their application is giving an error that a server can't be found. My code says that there is a permission problem on a network directory, and no one left in the data center has admin rights on that box.

    Yep, this outsourcing thing will work out well.

    What was that old saying? If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself? Sometimes it is true, ya know?

  28. Intersting by geekoid · · Score: 1

    wasn't the internet suppose to do a lot of that stuff?

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  29. Managerial Porn by mpapet · · Score: 1

    centralized IT department will go away.

    Ohhh yesss.

    Firms will no longer need to own/maintain the boxes that they use to run their firm's apps.

    Ohhh! Ohhh! Ahhh!

    no need to have the IT staff

    Cumshot

    Let's say this isn't another Gartner managerial fairy tale for a minute. Where, ***exactly*** are the cost savings? I just priced a 16-way dl380 g5 for about $5000 with drives and lots of ram. I would run out of bandwidth before I ran out of computing horsepower. That's soon to be the price of a pound of peanuts.

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  30. How Gartner Works by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    Yeah, this is How Gartner Works. You're not the target audience; it's middle managers at Fortune 1000 companies - you know, the kind who can pay for reports.

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  31. IT Pronounced DOA for the 439th time .... by HW_Hack · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Once again those who "live and breathe" technology attempt to predict how technology will affect the average worker who "doesn't get" the basics of technology or care about it.

    I support over 180 teaching staff and 30 administrative staff + 2000 HS students using about 700 computers.

    Many of the staff are quite comfortable users - but 98% of them have their real job focus "teaching students". Yes they use technology but their focus is staying abreast of new trends in Math - science - History ... and creating engaging content. NOT DESCRIBING SOME TECHNICAL ISSUE TO SOME "CLOUD BASED SUPPORT GEEK IN THE NEXT TIME-ZONE".

    Local support will not go away for a long time ... and yes students are tech savvy - but tech savvy at using applications and devices does not give you the deductive skill needed to solve problems.

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  32. Pay wall? by tepples · · Score: 1

    The blogger is passing around FUD, without supporting those statements with any information from Gartner. Would you rather that the blogger have linked to a page where one can purchase a download of the Gartner report for at least three figures USD?
    1. Re:Pay wall? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you rather that the blogger have linked to a page where one can purchase a download of the Gartner report for at least three figures USD?

      No, I would rather the blogger provide a link to a free copy of fucking report or keep his mouth shut.

  33. I Love Stuff Like This by BigBlueOx · · Score: 1

    Hapless Accountant:"Hey! I can't connect to our servers!"

    IT Manager:"Let me call our out-sourced data center that holds all our corporate data in a secure and safe off-site location"

    Out-Sourced Data Center Phone Line:"bee-doo bee-doo We're sorry. The number you have dialed has been disconnected"

    CEO(roaring):"Where's our data?"

    IT Manager:"um ... i think they went out of business ... sir ... your highness ... your lordship ..."

  34. Multicore has been changing the world for years. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Multi-core chips WILL change the world over the NEXT four years? They ALREADY HAVE.

    They've been providing massive crunch in internet routers for years.

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  35. The outsourcing mania by Animats · · Score: 1

    Most of the enthusiasm for "software as a service" comes from companies selling the services. The problem they face is that most companies have already purchased the hardware and applications they need, and they don't need to buy them again. This is Microsoft's big problem. Really, once you made it to Windows 2000 and Word 97, office applications worked pretty well. So why buy them again? Most of the additions since then benefited Microsoft more than the user.

    The trouble with "cloud computing" (otherwise known as "time-sharing") is that it only makes sense if you have a transient need for large amounts of compute power. That transient need also has to be at a different time than the transient needs of others. Don't put your retail system on Amazon's system; they have vast excess capacity most of the year, but in November and December, they're busy. (Amazon's primitives for "cloud computing" are well-chosen, though, and they've made some real progress on how to organize large numbers of machines. Their software would be useful without their service, and comparable open-source tools would be valuable.)

    If you have a fixed load, but just don't want to run a physical data center, there are many co-location facilities like Rackspace.

    How is "cloud computing" different from "grid computing", anyway?

  36. 10 out of 10 for stating the obvious by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
    Ahhh, another good old gartner prognostication.

    Really, the items on this list are so old they smell bad.

    Multicore processors - not exactly novel, plus it's just another way of packaging multi-processor systems that have been around for decades. The only new attribute is that they're coming down in price.

    Social networks? what planet have these guys been on for the last 5 years?

    Even better "user interface" at number 6.

    Frankly I'm surprised that Web 2 didn't make it. Maybe they disguised that as #5, web mashups?

    Hopefully no-one made the mistake of paying for this list.

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  37. Multithreading and hybrid processors? Not! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The future will be neither multithreaded nor heterogeneous. Multithreading is the work of the devil and everybody in the business should know this by now. Logic dictates that universality should be the primary objective of multicore research. So what do we have? We have incompatible multicore technologies: coarse grain, thread-based MIMD on the one hand and fine grain, data parallel SIMD on the other. Worse, the industry wants us to move to a hybrid processor, a truly hideous monster that mixes both SIMD and MIMD on a single die. Talk about a programming nightmare! No wonder there is a parallel programming crisis. The industry is clueless and so is the computer science community since they're the ones who got us into this fine mess in the first place. For a good explanation of what is wrong with parallel programming and what the solution is, read Nightmare on Core Street. Funny thing is, the solution has been around ever since programmers begin to emulate deterministic parallelism in neural networks and cellular automata. And without threads, mind you.

  38. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You won't need an IT department the day your staff just happens to become magically computer savvy and naturally knows how to exploit your computer resources to their full potential.

    How do you get rid of in-house IT? Dumb down your business practices. Un-automate things. Don't try to make things talk to each other or "sync". Type things... print them... send them to the recipients. Stick to factory settings.

  39. Now that I look at it... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Now that I look at it more closely, it seems that most of those items have already "changed the world" pretty significantly.

    Listing a bunch of paradigm-shifters that are years old but still on an adoption rampup may be useful when trying to plan for the future. But it's a pretty simple algorithm for generating reports, not something particularly insightful.

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  40. User Interface? Semantics? by faust2097 · · Score: 3, Funny

    At #7 they have "user interface" listed like it's some technology you can buy. Same with "semantics" at #10.

    Some poor IT guy is going to have a lot of complicated explaining to do when the CIO pounds his fist on his desk and yells "go get us some user interface and semantics!"

    1. Re:User Interface? Semantics? by Cathoderoytube · · Score: 1

      Yeah the 'user interface' puzzled me. What the hell does that even mean? Are they referring to touch screens or what? You'd think if they were, they'd have mentioned it specifically .

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  41. Good news Comrades! by overtly_demure · · Score: 1
    • Multicore servers and virtualization will mean that firms will need fewer boxes, and apps can be easily moved from box to box
    • Workplace social networks and cloud computing means that the need for a centralized IT department will go away
    • Firms will no longer need to own/maintain the boxes that they use to run their firm's apps
    • With no need to touch a box, there will be no need to have the IT staff co-located with the boxes
    • The lion will lie down with the lamb
    • {The workers' paradise | the reign of God | the leisure society} will begin and last for a thousand years
    • Beautiful young women will throw themselves at boring geeks and fulfill their every wish
    • Money will become obsolete, everyone will have whatever they want
    • People will cheerfully assume personal responsibility in and for everything they do
    • Crime, exploitation, war, violence, pestilence, and injustice will end abruptly
    • The ambient temperature of Hell will drop below that of liquid nitrogen at standard temperature and pressure
    1. Re:Good news Comrades! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1
      You missed:
      • 85% of desktops run linux[1]
      • Duke Nuke Forever is released
      [1] The other 15% run Hurd.
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  42. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I might be a coward, but ...

    It is always humorous to watch people try and "predict" anything about the future, especially given our current location in the flow of time and the current state of our sociopolis (which seems like a better term than "nation" at this point in history). Given the myopia of the "predictions" at hand, might I toss in my two bits:

    1. Internet speeds can, theoretically, top internal data bus transfer.
    2. Video cards (being highly streamlined FPUs, geared for spacial calculation)
    3. Distributed processing, BEOWULF
    4. Distributed filesystems, TORRENT
    5. All of the above built into a strain of "Super-Linux" kernel

    And hell, while we're at it,

    7. Human evolution

    As always is the case with massive transitions, it's been more or less apparent for some time, but you have to be a bit insane to see it. We're literally dealing with the end of corporation, decentralized supercomputing in the hands of the masses. IT? Talk to your neighbor, for Godsake! And what was it that Marx said?

  43. Changing the world by DavidJSimpson · · Score: 1

    Gartner is not suggesting that these are the top 10 new technologies, only that these are the top 10 technologies which will change the world over the next 4 years (presumably the technologies which will cause the greatest change).

  44. Re:High-level, better-trained IT workers opportuni by countSudoku() · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Bingo! That's more correct than most IT managers would ever realize. Outsourcing is just that; too expensive and even more work than to keep it in-house. I've personally seen two, local, big corp data centers get sucked into the "let's let do this and save on our expensive in-house help!" Worked out great in both situations. One company scared off any good talent and got a name around the area as a lame data center to work for, plus they're paying through the nose for their administration now! They were not much to begin with anyway. The other Big Retail Co. got a sad and unpleasant shock when the "solutions provider" couldn't live up to their marketing hype; "we can build you a cluster of servers in about a hour" turned out to be "well, when you give us a month's notice and take the bundled software we provide at the revisions only we approve and support, then after that it's about an hour. Oh, and you can't upgrade any software to what you need." They did a big about face in just two year's time and recently hired back one of their admins at about a 150% salary! He just bailed for an even greener pasture. Now they're on Dice searching and hoping. It does not pay to outsource, then decide against it and hope you can find some hungry admins of high quality who don't already know what kind of crap your management pulls. Good luck with that. Seriously.
            Also, I might add that outsourcing critical data is *NOT*, repeat *NOT*, going into the cloud, or over to India. There are huge obstacles to having your (health care or SOX-type, or government contract with employee info, etc.) data stored in someplace other than in your own, well-protected, data center her in the USA. It's not going to happen as there are several federal regulations that make it impossible, or really really not worth it for a number of legal reasons. That's not changing in the next four years.

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  45. Unified I/O by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

    Gartner is missing Unified I/O which will enable servers to have a single adapter (or dual for redundancy) that is carrying both IP and FCoE (FibreChannel over Ethernet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCoE) over a common 10GigE infrastructure. Greatly reducing cabling, management and number of connections to the server.

    This isn't akin iSCSI which had the painful overhead of TCP optimizations. While not aimed at the SMB market (who iSCSI is fine for), users that manage midsize to large datacenters will not be faced with the problems at layer 8 (politics of who manages the switches, LAN/SAN or for bladecenters server team?).

  46. lame by naniiyer · · Score: 1

    pretty lame predictions. anyone in IT would have said the same (except for Augmented Reality - think it must be to do with gaming - but havent heard that before). well I expect location blogs and location social networking the next big thing..

    1. Re:lame by sesshomaru · · Score: 1
      Hmm... augmented reality, I have heard of it before. Here's an article:

      Augmented Reality Goggles May Offer Mere Mortals X-Ray Vision

      Currently, it is used for Eye of Judgement, a somewhat bizarre PS3 game.

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  47. Virtualization adds work. by miffo.swe · · Score: 1

    I fail to see how virtualization can take substantial work away from any sane it department. From my own experiences it can add quite a bit of work you didnt have before. For in my work as an admin very little work has with the physical machines to do. Installing the OS takes no time at all theese days, its configuring the services that takes time. Managing SAN and a virtual enviroments takes quite some work and adds a fair bit of work you didnt have before. Virtualization is an answer if you have many small lightly loaded machines or want a test enviroment. For a heavily loaded server its just insane and a complete waste of resources. What use is a 10% saving in electricity when you loose 30% efficiency on the virtualization?

    The virtualization fad will probably level out when enough people have tried it and seen what areas it fits into and not.

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  48. I am the Cloud! by fyoder · · Score: 1

    I AM THE GREAT AND MIGHTY CLOUD! IT is dead! I shall service all your needs!

    Ignore the people behind the curtain, and be sure to hire a 'cloud priest' to help interface your devices with me.

    THAT IS ALL! Good day!

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  49. The real Gartner study by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Can be found here. As you can see: nothing to see here, move along.

    1. Re:The real Gartner study by overtly_demure · · Score: 1

      Yikes! October 9, 2007! Not only is it bullshit, but it's stale bullshit!

  50. I Will Turn in My Keys by cptsexy · · Score: 1

    right now if the secretary could remember her password from the start of her vacation to the end. The need for IT staff is not going to go away. Nearly half my work now is more business analytics and helping users understand how to write queries and understand data. Along with resetting passwords, fixing printers, fixing BSOD. All the virtualization in the world cannot protect you from the BSOD! Even if you take applications and servers away, you still have a wide range of users using client machines for access. The IT Department is going away no time soon.

  51. Re:High-level, better-trained IT workers opportuni by pla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    IT workers will have to think about how they can make the business operate more efficiently, and be creative and get it implemented.

    Puh-lease. Today's IT workers can't get our users to access network file shares rather than filling the mail spool with the same attachments (And a million revisions thereof) over and over and over... And in the few cases I've seen where people (always at least "engineers", not just your typical office staff) do use a NAS, they constantly come asking for help when they try to send outside contacts links to internal files. It seems that people have some sort of mental wall around the ideas of "local" and "not local", with no middle-ground possible. And god forbid you actually make such access secure - Users will actually burn CDs and pass them back and forth rather than even attempt to navigate the simplest of login prompts.

    So no, I don't worry about finding myself unneeded any time soon - Regardless of how easy the technology gets to use, the actual users still won't get it. And they'll need us to help them get that 10.1MB file (that the email system keeps rejecting) to Fred in Accounting - Who will then need our help opening the file.

  52. World??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone else wonder whether anything outside of the IT realm might possibly be important to the future?

  53. Gartner couldn't reveal a flashlight in a darkroom by Fefe · · Score: 1

    Why are these people still in business?

    I can't remember a single insightful thing they ever had to say.

    Their predictions are usually blindingly obvious or wrong.

  54. Management speak by heroine · · Score: 1

    "IT is going to become much more about information and how it can be used to help the business grow and prosper."

    Management speak just keeps getting more & more powerful. Feel the power of these sentences.

    "you need to know what your firm does, and even more importantly, how it does it."

    We need to take charge people.

    IT is going to be much more about IT. Got to grow & prosper to grow and prosper. Got to succeed to succeed. Got to build the makings of greatness to make greatness.

  55. Yes! by Mutatis+Mutandis · · Score: 1

    This IT function is going to leave the IT department as we know it today and will migrate into the business unit itself. What this means to you is that you need to know what your firm does, and even more importantly, how it does it.

    Yes! At last some people with common sense. I'd hire them straight away.

    And no, I'm not joking. I will always prefer a moderately skilled IT guy who has a sense of what the firm needs to achieve and how he can contribute to it, over the most brilliant IT mind that's only interested in maintaining his servers in all their glorious gleaming perfection.

    I need the first person. On-site, for direct support and face-to-face discussion of how we can best achieve our goals. If I ever need the second, I'll contract someone in India. People who don't understand our business are a dime to a dozen.

    Unfortunately, the reality is different. The reality is that when IT managers "rationalize", they move the boxes to India, fire the people I need in my organization, and "replace" them with people in India who are unable to fill the void, no matter how brilliant they are. I've seen the future, and I don't like it.

  56. Re:Gartner couldn't reveal a flashlight in a darkr by overtly_demure · · Score: 1
    They exist to generate reports showing how great everything Microsoft makes is. Between reports, they churn out this sort of junk just to keep their name in people's minds. Bear in mind that geeks such as yourself are not their audience. People with neckties and MBAs are, and those people eat this stuff up. They do partly because they are ignorant and gullible about IT, but more importantly because they are in the business of using analyst reports of various types as magical talismans to push their projects through and later defend them if they fail.

    It all works out in the end. Rather profitable, as well

  57. virtualization - bleah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Virtualization is not new - and it is not the "solution" either.

    Using virtualization to get "fewer boxes" is stupid. You can get fewer boxes by running several services in one box without virtualization too. If the box is powerful enough to do that with virtualization, then it has even more power without.

    And better: Without virtualization there is only one OS, so the staff doesn't need to maintain multiple OSes on that single box. That means less work. I guess we'll see a wave of de-virtualization once the virtualization fad passes. This tech has its uses, but box count reduction isn't really one of them.

  58. MOD PARENT +1, Informative by marxmarv · · Score: 1

    Cringely's article is gold.

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  59. Already there! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "With no need to touch a box, there will be no need to have the IT staff co-located with the boxes."

    Looks like my workplace is already starting to adopt this policy! Nobody from IS was in the building all day today. I guess they don't have the copier set up with their cloud-based multicore social information technology 2.0 presence yet- it was jammed all day. I tagged it "jammed" with a post-it, though.

  60. Obligatory reference to Charles Wong's quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://lwn.net/Articles/234645/

  61. Re:High-level, better-trained IT workers opportuni by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

    The jobs are not going away, but every year there are fewer of them. The ratio of users to techs has grown every year since the late 1990's. That's nothing new though, and it will continue for a bit before finally hitting a ratio where you really can't do with fewer people.

  62. Another blog posting? by ya+really · · Score: 1

    Anyone else ever get the feeling that nearly all blog postings on slashdot are just favors to someone with very little useful information contained within the actual post?

    Yeah yeah, I know, "You must be near here, right?"

    1. Re:Another blog posting? by ya+really · · Score: 1

      grrr....I meant new*

  63. You've got to be kidding me. by lawn.ninja · · Score: 1

    The only thing Gartner ever gets right is how to bleed money from suckers. You know those goofballs sit around and throw darts at a board and claim that to be the next big hit.

    Chief Editor: "Hey we need an article about the future of computing."

    Tech Ed: "Hang on I'm busy updating my facebook profile."

    CE: "Damn. You sure do spend a lot of time on that site."

    TE: "Yeah. It's totally the site of the future."

    CE: "Really? What else do you do with your computer? Can you put it into a top ten list? Then we can have someone that has diarrhea of the mouth write the report."

    TE: "Yeah I can do that, I just sent off the email. Are we done then?"

    CE: "Oh, hell yeah, lets go get drunk."

    TE: "Sweet, now get out of my office so I can continue to e-stalk the high school girl that lives next door to me."

  64. My IT Director needs Gartner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gartner is perfect for IT professionals like the Director of IT at our company. My IT Director also keen to listen to all kind of outside IT professionals who come and go to validate my work. My IT Director needs all kind of reassurances that our IT is secure, our IT is set up the way it should be, possibly in chart or other visual formats. My Director of IT also thinks that there are certain things that should not be as they are. It would be much easier of course if my IT Director had any formal training or background in IT, but my IT Director does not have time for that, since there are so many other senior executive areas needing the same attention. Some day I really wonder, how in the fuck has it happened, that IT never really become a legit profession in the corporate world and nobody wonders how can someone at a public company claim to be Director of IT without any related education or experience - other than being "IT Director".

  65. The real Top 10 Tech for the Next Century by mungmaster2000 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    1. Canned Food
    2. Solar Panels
    3. Gerber Knives
    4. Crossbows
    5. Wind-a-ble AM/SW radios
    6. Water Purification Tablets
    7. Synthetic Fibre Parkas
    8. Thermal Underclothes
    9. First Aid Kits
    10.Synthetic Fibre High-Durability Sleeping Bags
    That is, once Peak Oil devastates world economy, governments, disease control, and otherwise any form of civilization as we know it.

  66. Quick Everyone! by DarkOx · · Score: 1

    Gartner has release another one of their polls and technology talking points! Lets all throw out everything our own experience, and judgement would lead us to conclude and get or strategies in line with their latest top 10 list as quickly as possible. I hear the even put more effort into these things then Letterman does!

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  67. You made me Laugh by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    as soon as I read your comment- I had to roll up and make sure it wasn't submitted by Roland.

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  68. I augmented my reality last night... by Organic+Brain+Damage · · Score: 1

    ...with a couple of deep dish pizza's.

    Man, that pepperoni and cheese with onion was some great augmentation.

    How will you augment your reality today?

    P.S. Web Mashups are soooooo 2 years ago.

  69. Bad ideas? by Mike610544 · · Score: 1

    The fabric-based server of the future will treat memory, processors, and I/O cards as components in a pool, combining and recombining them into particular arrangements to suits the owner's needs. Just think: now your memory leak bug can only affect one box (how limiting), in the future you'll will be able to bring the entire data center to its knees.

    By 2010, Web mashups will be the dominant model Because making disparate systems work together seamlessly is easy! Certainly there will be less IT support required ...

    resource efficiency can improve dramatically, flexibility can become automatic based on requirements, and services can be managed holistically, ensuring high levels of resiliency. This sounds like people in the 60s talking about "the year 2000." Unless I missed the memo about strong AI this is bullshit.

    The rest of their items seem reasonable, except the ones that - correct me if I'm wrong - used a bunch of buzzwords to say "do stuff better."
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  70. Re:High-level, better-trained IT workers opportuni by chthon · · Score: 1

    My experience with IT at my job is that the people who do SAP have the knowledge (they come from the mainframe era), but the people who do the PCs don't (they are people that think they know about computers because they can find the on switch and know how to reboot using Ctrl-Alt-Del).

  71. Re:High-level, better-trained IT workers opportuni by chthon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    as always : out-sourcing or off-shoring ? Our IT department consists of only a couple of in-house people, the rest is out-sourced. However, these out-sourced people are always on-site, so this does nor make a difference in head count, only in bookkeeping strategy.

  72. These aren't news! by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 1

    We don't need Gertner to know that!
    All those buzzwords have appeared dozens of times, at an increasing rate, in all our favourite IT news sites.
    Like SlashDot.
    User Interface and Ubiquitous computing are "the technologies of the future" since 30 years now!

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  73. Re:High-level, better-trained IT workers opportuni by richsc · · Score: 1

    Having used Gartner for years, the quality of the analysts varies considerably, and it helps to get to know them over time.

    The best example of seeing jobs go away is the model represented by 3Tera's Applogic. Bundle an entire datacenter and move it from place to place.
    The problem with most IT folks is that they feel they're in charge of the factory floor, rather like steel workers, and just as short sighted. Several Federal IT folks have seen the 3Tera and indeed 'see the handwriting on the wall' no matter how the traditional folks squawk. Nicholas Carr's latest book sort of hints at this.
    The answer will be to reinvent ourselves as you suggest.

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  75. And along with clouds come the storm... by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 1

    ... of xenophobic national security laws, preventing such systems from legally connecting to networks outside of their primary country. While this might limit the loss of IT jobs to outsourcing to some extent, the legal boundaries could prevent such decentralized systems from ever functioning to their true and most efficient potential.

    One only has to look at how lousy the broadband industry is performing within the United States versus most foreign nations broadband networks to get an idea of what to expect. Whether it's fears of the "mafiaa" suing network providers over piracy concerns, or simply the network providers themselves refusing to update their networks to milk the consumer as much as possible, it's not hard to imagine the countless ways we'll manage to screw ourselves based upon our own fears of each other.

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  76. Gartner, Out of Touch by tonyAG · · Score: 1

    If I understand this correctly, I believe that Gartner is being Naive and/or out of touch with reality. I find it hard to believe that any company of any size that depends on its computer's would entrust their critical data and functions to systems not under their control. The entire industry comes down to control. Who controls your music ? Who controls your movies ? Who controls what you see and your news ? Governments try to gain control, We individual (usually) try to maintain our control.

    So Why would a company voluntier to surrender control over a critical business function. I don't see it happening. I gotta admit, when I hear a manager quoting Gartner, I usually sigh in resignation. You have a manager who cannot think for themselves. Lately, I like Microsoft and and the CIA more than I like Gartner.

  77. my POV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Firstly, I have never, ever seen anyone *truly* interested in training someone from IT on "the business", let alone before the hiring process (the entry-requirement being "3 years of Oracle certification" needed to be the door greeter... why are you surprised when they polish their disk arrays?) And, your "business" is often jealously protected, only for your chosen few.

    You hire IT because you are under huge latent pressure to do something technological. You then assign that person to some technological-heavy task or throwing your garbage over the fence, which may takes months. You then ignore their need to learn, participate and then stay active in the raw business activity.

    And if they are technically good, you will burden them with unending technical tasks as there are never enough truly technically savvy people around when you need them.

    Finally, you will make them unending answerers-of-the unanswerable? Why does the printer not work? I have a Presentation in 5 minutes dammit and I can't print my slides! ad-nauseum.

    These are self-fulfilling and result in what you see. how can they know your business? If you are not that way, great; but generalists are not valued anywhere; I personally have left the field and only cherry-pick -exactly- because of these issues.