They're digging where "science" leads them. There's no other "theory" on cancer - it's a set of genetic mutations induced by chance, virus, radiation, or carcinogen (or other similar factors) that cause runaway cell growth.
True fact: Your words are those that I hear all the time from paranoiacs and kooks. Let me guess, you use words like "big pharma" and the pejorative "white coats" all the time, right?
Shrug. You are full of shit. There are no such populations when corrected for age. None.
Want to compare longevity rates of a 1600's pacific islander on a pristine island eating fish and fruits all day and a typical US/European citizen? Guess who will live longer on average...
Paranoia nonsense talk. This is like saying the only reason we don't have Star Trekesque transporters is because it would put the auto manufacturers out of business.
Idiot's argument. The labeling push isn't even subtle, and it fools no one. You think if you can force them to put "Note: this product contains GMO" type notes on things it will scare people. Why put a label on something if it isn't dangerous is what people think.
You're like a KKK member innocently asking why he can't have foods prepared by the "inferior races" labeled, I mean what are you scared of, it's just a label right?
Lol, bullshit and I see other hippies modded you Informative. He was clearly talking about cancer, as that's the rumor that all of those sweeteners caused cancer.
And they do... if you eat about 20 pounds of it a day, probably.
Labeling is an attempt to stigmatize, that's all it is. They couldn't find the science to prove GMOs dangerous, so they think they can make reasonable sounding arguments like "Well, then why are you afraid to label it hmmmmm???".
Only it's not reasonable sounding. It's silly and transparent. They should label nothing.
Imagine some redneck who thinks if gay people touch his food he'll catch teh ghey. You know what his argument would be? "Sure, yer fancy schmancy scientists say I'm an idiot, but what are they afraid of? I demand all food picked or prepared by gays be labeled! Why are you scared to label it?"
Yep, really a conventional panel is your best bet and Envisalink 3 is great. I would also recommend the Micasaverde Vera which has great integration with the Envislink 3 and lets you seamlessly combine your home automation and security systems. I use AutHomationHD with this combination and couldn't be happier, it looks like the system professionals (e.g. Cox Home Security) would give you.
Probably set you back about $1k after buying everything + a bunch of sensors, but no monthly fees so you'd break even after like 2 years and then save like $30-$40 a month after that.
The alarm system industry is sort of this mystical cabal that tries to keep everything secret so you can't do your own system, but it's not so hard. The good thing about using a conventional alarm is they are tried and true and the sensors are cheaper than e.g. Z-Wave or other custom systems.
I recommend DSC, the PC1832 (or larger) system is great. You can go wireless easily, though like anything wires are better but they're much harder to deploy around a house unless you're pre-wired. I went _all_ wireless.
Buy the panel and wireless bridge and all the door plungers, window sensors, motion sensors, etc... you need. You can also get things like flood sensors and glass break sensors, smoke alarms, etc... There are instructions online for how to set it up, it's not so hard.
Then buy a MicasaVerde Vera. You can connect it to the DSC with a little card called an Envisalink. This puts your DSC system online. Unless you have a hardened bunch of TV burglars out to steal the mona lisa from your house this probably isn't a big deal, but you should put some time into securing your home network for sure.
Between the DSC, Envislink, and the Vera your options are endless for home automation. I use an _awesome_ and free app called AuthomationHd that lets me view cameras, all my Z-wave automation, and every alarm sensor from my tablet. I can arm/disarm locally/remotely, etc.. Tons of other options in that space too.
God, I know. We get it - the NSA is spying on us. All these "NSA turr hurr!" jokes remind me of the "Scary Movie"/"Epic Movie" type pseudo-spoofs. They seem to think making references to other movies, alone, makes it funny. "Turr hurr, Gandalf is breakdancing turr hurr!". Same level of infantile humor.
You mean like pricing a Mac Pro $2k less than you can buy the individual parts for it?
Lol, you're Captain Current Events. I saw those articles too, but I realized instantly they were asinine. This is like saying the Chevy Volt was a steal at $50k because it would cost you at least $10M to build your own from scratch.
Good luck with the switch but the grass is pretty much DEAD on the other side of the lawn.
Better to frolic in (lol) DEAD grass than drink rotten kool-aid.
You know who appeals to "the law"? Assholes, that's who.
Right and wrong are different from "the law". Usually they line up pretty well, but in this case the law is wrong (none of Apple's patents are novel) so to appeal to it as the ultimate authority is ridiculous.
<Godwin>Asshole in 1940's Germany: Well, I hate killing people as much as the next guy but why don't we go ahead and follow the law here and throw these human beings in these overns.</Godwin>
You respond with outrage because it makes you feel good about yourself. I respond with apathy because I don't care. Comme ci comme ca.
It's all about poor ego development. It makes people feel good to think that they are righting some wrong by attacking people like her, or like Paula Deen, or Phil Robertson, etc...
It's dreary. I can see getting upset if someone is inciting violence or making threats, or even pushing for e.g. anti-gay legislation. That matters.
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They're digging where "science" leads them. There's no other "theory" on cancer - it's a set of genetic mutations induced by chance, virus, radiation, or carcinogen (or other similar factors) that cause runaway cell growth.
True fact: Your words are those that I hear all the time from paranoiacs and kooks. Let me guess, you use words like "big pharma" and the pejorative "white coats" all the time, right?
Sounds like some kooky bullshit, brohan. You a kook?
Shrug. You are full of shit. There are no such populations when corrected for age. None.
Want to compare longevity rates of a 1600's pacific islander on a pristine island eating fish and fruits all day and a typical US/European citizen? Guess who will live longer on average...
Paranoia nonsense talk. This is like saying the only reason we don't have Star Trekesque transporters is because it would put the auto manufacturers out of business.
Idiot's argument. The labeling push isn't even subtle, and it fools no one. You think if you can force them to put "Note: this product contains GMO" type notes on things it will scare people. Why put a label on something if it isn't dangerous is what people think.
You're like a KKK member innocently asking why he can't have foods prepared by the "inferior races" labeled, I mean what are you scared of, it's just a label right?
Idiot.
You are an idiot. There is a mountain of evidence that these sweeteners were safe, and that GMOs are safe. So the burden is on you.
Lol, bullshit and I see other hippies modded you Informative. He was clearly talking about cancer, as that's the rumor that all of those sweeteners caused cancer.
And they do... if you eat about 20 pounds of it a day, probably.
That's complete bullshit.
Labeling is an attempt to stigmatize, that's all it is. They couldn't find the science to prove GMOs dangerous, so they think they can make reasonable sounding arguments like "Well, then why are you afraid to label it hmmmmm???".
Only it's not reasonable sounding. It's silly and transparent. They should label nothing.
Imagine some redneck who thinks if gay people touch his food he'll catch teh ghey. You know what his argument would be? "Sure, yer fancy schmancy scientists say I'm an idiot, but what are they afraid of? I demand all food picked or prepared by gays be labeled! Why are you scared to label it?"
I believe that makes you a science redneck.
Yep, really a conventional panel is your best bet and Envisalink 3 is great. I would also recommend the Micasaverde Vera which has great integration with the Envislink 3 and lets you seamlessly combine your home automation and security systems. I use AutHomationHD with this combination and couldn't be happier, it looks like the system professionals (e.g. Cox Home Security) would give you.
Probably set you back about $1k after buying everything + a bunch of sensors, but no monthly fees so you'd break even after like 2 years and then save like $30-$40 a month after that.
The alarm system industry is sort of this mystical cabal that tries to keep everything secret so you can't do your own system, but it's not so hard. The good thing about using a conventional alarm is they are tried and true and the sensors are cheaper than e.g. Z-Wave or other custom systems.
I recommend DSC, the PC1832 (or larger) system is great. You can go wireless easily, though like anything wires are better but they're much harder to deploy around a house unless you're pre-wired. I went _all_ wireless.
Buy the panel and wireless bridge and all the door plungers, window sensors, motion sensors, etc... you need. You can also get things like flood sensors and glass break sensors, smoke alarms, etc... There are instructions online for how to set it up, it's not so hard.
Then buy a MicasaVerde Vera. You can connect it to the DSC with a little card called an Envisalink. This puts your DSC system online. Unless you have a hardened bunch of TV burglars out to steal the mona lisa from your house this probably isn't a big deal, but you should put some time into securing your home network for sure.
Between the DSC, Envislink, and the Vera your options are endless for home automation. I use an _awesome_ and free app called AuthomationHd that lets me view cameras, all my Z-wave automation, and every alarm sensor from my tablet. I can arm/disarm locally/remotely, etc.. Tons of other options in that space too.
Bullshit. Make 30 non-trivial predictions, let's see if you get even 10 right.
Asimov was a smart dude, and he did a lot better at predicting 50 years away than most "technologists"/"futurists" would today.
True, good point. On an unrelated topic, horoscopes work. I mean, there is a whole field of study around it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology
Time travel is not possible. But if the point is just theoretically interesting I guess the work is valid on its own merit.
"Quantum Computing" is hogwash. I'll eat my shoe when they can crack even a tiny RSA key, say the smallest possible, faster than a conventional chip.
Yes, because it's 1987 and you'll be personally stuck with the losses incurred by identity theft.
Lol. Yeah...no. I didn't vote for Obama (aka the Jr. Senator who made people feel good about themselves by voting for him).
God, I know. We get it - the NSA is spying on us. All these "NSA turr hurr!" jokes remind me of the "Scary Movie"/"Epic Movie" type pseudo-spoofs. They seem to think making references to other movies, alone, makes it funny. "Turr hurr, Gandalf is breakdancing turr hurr!". Same level of infantile humor.
You know, I hate war and death and whatnot but some of the technology and equipment of the military gives me what I like to call a War Boner.
This gives me a Science Boner. That's god damn cool, looks like something you'd read about in a science fiction book 20 years ago.
Nobody stole anything, that's just Apple FUD. It's amusing you think developing those phones took "an hour" for Samsung and Google.
You mean like pricing a Mac Pro $2k less than you can buy the individual parts for it?
Lol, you're Captain Current Events. I saw those articles too, but I realized instantly they were asinine. This is like saying the Chevy Volt was a steal at $50k because it would cost you at least $10M to build your own from scratch.
Good luck with the switch but the grass is pretty much DEAD on the other side of the lawn.
Better to frolic in (lol) DEAD grass than drink rotten kool-aid.
You know who appeals to "the law"? Assholes, that's who.
Right and wrong are different from "the law". Usually they line up pretty well, but in this case the law is wrong (none of Apple's patents are novel) so to appeal to it as the ultimate authority is ridiculous.
<Godwin>Asshole in 1940's Germany: Well, I hate killing people as much as the next guy but why don't we go ahead and follow the law here and throw these human beings in these overns.</Godwin>
You respond with outrage because it makes you feel good about yourself. I respond with apathy because I don't care. Comme ci comme ca.
It's all about poor ego development. It makes people feel good to think that they are righting some wrong by attacking people like her, or like Paula Deen, or Phil Robertson, etc...
It's dreary. I can see getting upset if someone is inciting violence or making threats, or even pushing for e.g. anti-gay legislation. That matters.
What some random tweeter says? Who gives a fuck.
What specifically was rac_ist_ about her comment? Racial, sure. Racist? How so?
For fuck's sake. Did that just happen?