well NO ONE owns software. the software companies made sure of that... and as much as i like GNU/FS, you don't OWN that either but it's light years ahead of anything else.
trying to own ideas and words is especially obscene and tyrannical.
how many times must people believe the lies that the likes of ms, sony spout?
if you don't recall, in 2000/1 bill gates gave a talk about how the xbox could do "1 trillion op/s"...
then it must be half as powerful as a ps3...
how about "they're all lying through their teeth, each generation".
and don't even get started with the toy story bullshit.
a supercomputer in 2020 couldn't even render toy story in real time. we're 5-10 generations from a system that could even begin to attempt something like that. i said "toy story" not "something that vaguely looks like toy story but has 100 fold less processing requirements".
one of the best features about the xbox360 is the "free" antialiasing (thanks to the eDRAM). the nvidia rsx cannot do AA without incurring a penalty or lowering the graphical detail.
frankly, all that hardware is mostly useless... since the DRM cripples all consoles. when we're allowed to run arbitrary code on OUR machines, it'll be a joyous day.
oh and btw, that physics accelerator from ageia is pure crap. if you've taken a look at the demos/videos you'll see how unconvincing the physics really are.
they claim 40 thousand simultaneous physics bodies... that all behave like something a toddler programmed in manually. i'd rather have 1-5k REALISTIC simulations rather than 40k useless moving objects that don't behave anything like their real world counterparts.
sony licensing the novodex or havoc apis is basically worthless from that standpoint as i haven't seen a single engine that is even remotely convincing.
it'll be another 10-15 years before we get REAL physics on any computer than isn't running scientific or military simulations.
and on a tangent, 300 bucks for an ageia card? i mean what the heck?! i might consider it if it were under 100 but 300 is way too much to ask for something so shitty.
i'm interested in how many government shills are waiting for the "conspiracy" nuts to show up.
conspiracy:
1 a : to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement b : SCHEME
2 : to act in harmony toward a common end
no, two or more people agreeing to do something unlawful? people would kill for money and/or power?
there's no way in hell i would believe that.
as far as i know, human beings are the most benevolent and compassion beings around. they would never do any harm, ever. our own history shows just how much so.
so no, i don't believe people commit crimes, especially in secret.
and i don't believe that the media is the willing servant of the government. that's just plain ludicrous and not able to be shown with facts and figures. it is not even in the realm of possibility.
sort of like a person who plays mmorpgs, should have their foreheads stamped with a giant S... for stupid if you didn't get it.
how about we stop cheating online first. that'll clear up 99.9% of the "farmers".
frankly, if you spend money on an account and you are physically in front of the computer 12-16 hours a day, you have a right to sell the items. what you don't have a right to do is cheat.bots are cheats, a violation of the TOS. exploits/bugs etc are cheats (hell, even worse, since it can cause server and economic instability).
let's see how many people will still "Farm" when they have to be physically present and develop RSI/carpal tunnel syndrome.
just prevent cheating... that'll fix up MMORPGs in no time flat.
you still can sell and buy items... but who'll sell an item it took them a month or whatever to obtain... and for how much? see, it discourages even casual selling.
it'll be a moot issue but the greedy companies want to continue this practice... shafting their honest customers at the expense of the (relatively) few cheaters/exploiters.
fuck em, i say.
that's why i stopped playing online. every a**hole and their dog run bots/cheat/curse/ruin your fun/etc. single player is far more preferable for me now... in fact, i have an enormous disdain for anything multiplayer.
maybe in the very far future, when anonymity is completely eliminated... and we've list all our rights online, then i can consider MP again.... or maybe i'll just read a good book... the kind made from paper, regarded as an antique.
diablo one wasn't a client/server model... hence the character files were stored on the users computers unencrypted.
now you can see why it was the way it was.
diablo 2 is pretty much an MMO in a "instanced" sort of way. everything is stored on the server but of course, the communication between client and server is not encrypted. tons of losers and lowlifes sniffed out the protocol and hacked the game to bits.
online gaming = at the mercy of everyone else involved.
i'd take a boring single player game any day over a multiplayer one. but thankfully, most online games just plain suck IMO.
there is more than one way to reference the world virtual.
since in the game, 99.9% of the time, items and "property" cannot be had without working long and hard for it, at least on this level it is somewhat synonymous with real life. while in theory everything in the virtual world can be infinitely duplicated, it is A VERY COMMON misconception that therefore nothing is of any value to anyone.
if you spent any time at all in an online game in which the items/stats/etc are stored on a remote protected server, that you would know how valuable (relative to gamers and the setting) they really are. now i'm not saying you should give them real world value in every possible way, but just enough that's reasonable to allow one to enjoy the game for ALL players.
no one should have the right to ruin the play experience of everyone else in the game, which cheating invariably does. by definition, cheating is only done by a minority and they often have multiple stolen cd keys etc in order to get back to their deviant practices should they be caught; this cannot be undertaken by anyone else. such that, it means it is an unlawful practice (within the doctrine of the virtual world) and is considered a crime. the few exploit the many, frustrate the many, screw over the many, unjustifiably gain advantage over the many who have agreed to abide by certain basic rules of ethics online (and off interestingly enough...).
yes i've given this more thought than most people online... mostly because i've had more than enough of my share of this bullshit. no one has to put up with it.. but since blizzard, sony, ncsoft, etc want the cheating players (most whom !steal! and gain items unfairly to profit off of) to keep paying their 15 bucks (or more for multiple accounts), they screw the many thousands of honest players.
they have every opportunity to stop this kind of garbage but they choose not to. so ultimately, while there are many losers and unscrupulous people, the responsibility falls to the companies.
now you know who to blame and who to seek remedy from. it's up to you now, if you so choose.
that's about one of the most pathetic and inane excuses i've ever heard. more so coming out of someone who , to my estimation, is not a teenager.
if it's "just" a game, surely you wouldn't spend hours upon hours playing it. and surely you wouldn't mind people cheating and ruining the structure of the game. and surely you wouldn't pay 15 bucks a month to play "just" a game.
it clearly represents some value; that alone would negate the "just" aspect of the game. clearly, you need some education on this matter because everything in the world is not "just" if it has value to at least one person (and not even that much).
it's what i call the "losers excuse" and with JUSTifiably good reason.
(and yes, some of what you meant probably indicates that since it doesn't really matter to you much, that you can say "it's just a game" and feel better about it. i just want to cover the other issues involved)
i have heard countless times online of how people hate cheating/cheaters, hacks, exploits in online gaming.
yet the majority of the posts here are made by people not only condoning it but advocating and joining in themselves.
and thus you get what you earn.
now in my opinion, the only course of action blizzard should take is to ban the cd keys of everyone caught duplicating items (exploiting code against the TOS in a way that screws up the game for everyone).
but i can tell you with 100% certainty that it won't happen. blizzard is about one of the most lax on the issue of cheating/hacking/what have you. all of their online games are absolutely FULL of cheaters. they do this by design, since once they have your money they do the absolute minimum required to maintain their servers and games.
online gaming is THE future of gaming... or so the industry is betting. and this is just about the biggest problem online currently. the only one that's bigger is the number of "kiddies", immature people playing. (you know what i mean, i'm sure).
continue to be lax and screw the vast majority of people who don't cheat and want to play fairly. the fact that these a**holes profit monetarily from selling these unearned items really gets my goat. criminals by definition.
whatever. i stopped playing online games just about entirely , though on occassion i will play a few mins here and there. this problem will only get worse as we go forward. more and more of the population will have to endure this kind of absurdity and most do not have the patience or willpower to put up with it. nor should they.
unfortunetly... the answer to this WILL be treacherous computing with its "remote attestation" function. it probably will help a great deal with eliminating cheating but it will also be just about the worst thing that could happen to the internet in general. it will eventually be required by law (if it isn't already) to get access to the net.
well you can read about the specific issues of that in other resources.
by any reasonable definition, it is NOT broadband (please don't nitpick, i use broadband in the sense that most people understand).
when connections become at least synchronous, then and only then can you consider it broadband.
right now, it's just a joke. the fact that the "FCC" so conveniently forgot to address it (when not trying to please it's corporate masters by forcing the broadcast flag onto the unsuspecting populace and which also the mainstream media somehow forgot to mention while showing 20 different views of the scott peterson trial...) simply means the fcc has no business being involved any longer in the regulation of communications.
one: it's illegal under the dmca to even link to the site you did, it's also illegal to use it.
two: you have to go out of your way to find something like that... this time they were able to find a way to circumvent it... with treacherous computing, it'll be much much harder (unless a buffer overflow works...like reversing the polarity, except that it works.)
three: valve is saying "we don't trust you, our customers, so we'll call you consumers and take extra rights for ourselves and control our product after the transaction has been completed"
four: most people bring up the " you don't have to be online to play etcetc"
as a matter of fact, you have to get permission from valve every few days as they so graciously made the mechanism expire. if that isn't offensive to you... well wait a few years... you'll have a better grip on what that means then.
five: they have the ability and have exercised it to disable the account of any steam subscriber for any reason whatsoever WITHOUT any sort of trial or ability to rescind the "judgement". that's right folks, they can make your copy of the game you bought with your hard-earned dollars disappear. now imagine if any other industry pulled this shit...
and these are some of the reason off the top of my head why steam is pure shit/garbage and since you cannot legally seperate steam from hl2, that hl2 is also pure shit.
next time some ignorant "f**boy" starts spouting the valve corporate propoganda line or says why don't you whiny a**holes just shut up and take it, you can copy and paste this post for them to read.
i'm saying their rights to use the network which they pay for with their massive and ever-increasing tuition shall not be infringed.
and when you take the same attitude of "the big copyright extending, EU/US "harmonization" cartels/thugs" from really and actually stealing from the public then i'll be glad to discuss this further with you.
i wonder how they can monitor encyrpted communications...
i mean all you would have to do is set up the appropriate config and they would be none the wiser. most p2p apps have configurable ports. then there's pptp, proxies, etc.
for me, i would have to have a far more enormous understanding of japanese culture and people and language to make such a distinction.
i have no such understanding. i just want to enjoy watching a movie/video and not have to learn all the intracacies that go along with having your level of understanding. you see, i don't speak japanese. i don't read japanese. i don't understand in great detail the japanese culture. i also don't want to get a phd in japanese/culture in order to more fully enjoy a video.
that's overstating it but some people want to be more involved and enjoy that sort of thing. for me, all i hear is noise and chatter. i rather want something that i understand and can relax and enjoy the film.
i guess i'm saying that i see it as a form of entertainment rather than an art form. so in that context, is it reasonable to say that i prefer dubs to subs? accounting for disgust with the english voice acting etc.
but really, cartoons or any form of animation was very much also an adult thing. during the early parts of the last century, many cartoons had themes not very relevant to children. also during ww2, many of the cartoon characters we are familiar with, were aimed at propogandizing the adult public. looking back at the flintstones for example, there are many intracacies that are only valuable to an adult audience. also take the simpsons/futurama/family guy/etc... clearly they go way over the head of children.
when people say cartoons are for kids, they must be very fixated on the saturday morning cartoon era.
clearly, any person can watch any type of moving display and that the only limiter, if you will is the content.
but it goes both ways... when you say anime isn't a cartoon i'd have to disagree. cartoon to me means any type of non-live animation. so when you say anime isn't a cartoon, you're saying it's something special or different. in effect, the content doesn't differentiate it sufficiently for me to give it a new designation.
as for your example above... romance novel and kids book... by my way of thinking, it doesn't matter what words are written on the pages... they are both books. perhaps it matters to you, but both are books in my mind. further categorization can occur but that's beyond the scope of my argument.
so when you hear my say CARTOON, i want people to understand, that ultimately, anime isn't special enough because of its content to warrant having a name change.
Slashdot Mirror
funny you should mention letters of the alphabet...
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
it's coming to a world near you.
it isn't part of the os.
no matter how much they scream and protest and obfuscate the apis and whatever other reprehensible tricks they use.
[software] robber barons are the same, no matter the name.
well NO ONE owns software. the software companies made sure of that... and as much as i like GNU/FS, you don't OWN that either but it's light years ahead of anything else.
trying to own ideas and words is especially obscene and tyrannical.
the macintosh didn't get preemptive multitasking until osx.
funny, but they seem to make fun of windows for not having features that virtually everyone else in the world had for years.
not to mention proper memory protection. among others.
how soon they forget.
and no, i'm not pro windows either. i just happen to be stuck using it cause i'm a "gamer".
how many times must people believe the lies that the likes of ms, sony spout?
if you don't recall, in 2000/1 bill gates gave a talk about how the xbox could do "1 trillion op/s"...
then it must be half as powerful as a ps3...
how about "they're all lying through their teeth, each generation".
and don't even get started with the toy story bullshit.
a supercomputer in 2020 couldn't even render toy story in real time. we're 5-10 generations from a system that could even begin to attempt something like that. i said "toy story" not "something that vaguely looks like toy story but has 100 fold less processing requirements".
one of the best features about the xbox360 is the "free" antialiasing (thanks to the eDRAM). the nvidia rsx cannot do AA without incurring a penalty or lowering the graphical detail.
frankly, all that hardware is mostly useless... since the DRM cripples all consoles. when we're allowed to run arbitrary code on OUR machines, it'll be a joyous day.
oh and btw, that physics accelerator from ageia is pure crap. if you've taken a look at the demos/videos you'll see how unconvincing the physics really are.
they claim 40 thousand simultaneous physics bodies... that all behave like something a toddler programmed in manually. i'd rather have 1-5k REALISTIC simulations rather than 40k useless moving objects that don't behave anything like their real world counterparts.
sony licensing the novodex or havoc apis is basically worthless from that standpoint as i haven't seen a single engine that is even remotely convincing.
it'll be another 10-15 years before we get REAL physics on any computer than isn't running scientific or military simulations.
and on a tangent, 300 bucks for an ageia card? i mean what the heck?! i might consider it if it were under 100 but 300 is way too much to ask for something so shitty.
gee, i wonder why with amd cpus, being much much faster for gaming, why they don't garner any sponsorships.
gee, i wonder.
my arm is very strong.
no, canada is fascist-lite.
if you really wanna get away, might i suggest antarctica?
it'll be a few decades before people come to stomp on your freedoms. they tend not to like the cold but it'll be warmer soon.
i'm interested in how many government shills are waiting for the "conspiracy" nuts to show up.
:
conspiracy
1 a : to join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement b : SCHEME
2 : to act in harmony toward a common end
no, two or more people agreeing to do something unlawful? people would kill for money and/or power?
there's no way in hell i would believe that.
as far as i know, human beings are the most benevolent and compassion beings around. they would never do any harm, ever. our own history shows just how much so.
so no, i don't believe people commit crimes, especially in secret.
and i don't believe that the media is the willing servant of the government. that's just plain ludicrous and not able to be shown with facts and figures. it is not even in the realm of possibility.
and where might we find these "few honest politicians"?
i'd say we look on mars, a good a place as any.
sort of like a person who plays mmorpgs, should have their foreheads stamped with a giant S... for stupid if you didn't get it.
.bots are cheats, a violation of the TOS. exploits/bugs etc are cheats (hell, even worse, since it can cause server and economic instability).
how about we stop cheating online first. that'll clear up 99.9% of the "farmers".
frankly, if you spend money on an account and you are physically in front of the computer 12-16 hours a day, you have a right to sell the items. what you don't have a right to do is cheat
let's see how many people will still "Farm" when they have to be physically present and develop RSI/carpal tunnel syndrome.
just prevent cheating... that'll fix up MMORPGs in no time flat.
you still can sell and buy items... but who'll sell an item it took them a month or whatever to obtain... and for how much? see, it discourages even casual selling.
it'll be a moot issue but the greedy companies want to continue this practice... shafting their honest customers at the expense of the (relatively) few cheaters/exploiters.
fuck em, i say.
that's why i stopped playing online. every a**hole and their dog run bots/cheat/curse/ruin your fun/etc. single player is far more preferable for me now... in fact, i have an enormous disdain for anything multiplayer.
maybe in the very far future, when anonymity is completely eliminated... and we've list all our rights online, then i can consider MP again.... or maybe i'll just read a good book... the kind made from paper, regarded as an antique.
sounds like a perfect idea for a firefox extension.
maybe some smart "cookie" can code one up in an afternoon...
and since you paid 250-500 bucks for a psp... how does anyone but you have any say in what it's used for?
cookies don't fit this analogy. if you need me to explain why, just turn in your geek card and hang your head in shame.
diablo one wasn't a client/server model... hence the character files were stored on the users computers unencrypted.
now you can see why it was the way it was.
diablo 2 is pretty much an MMO in a "instanced" sort of way. everything is stored on the server but of course, the communication between client and server is not encrypted. tons of losers and lowlifes sniffed out the protocol and hacked the game to bits.
online gaming = at the mercy of everyone else involved.
i'd take a boring single player game any day over a multiplayer one. but thankfully, most online games just plain suck IMO.
i have even less respect for people who have no sense of justice in their hearts, however trivial the matter may seem.
there are no "justs", everything has value to someone somewhere.
basically you enjoy a 15 dollar a month FPS/deathmatch with lousy graphics?
does that about sum it up?
then you'll be hoping for a long time.
online game companies are notorious for NOT punishing cheaters, especially blizzard.
there is more than one way to reference the world virtual.
since in the game, 99.9% of the time, items and "property" cannot be had without working long and hard for it, at least on this level it is somewhat synonymous with real life. while in theory everything in the virtual world can be infinitely duplicated, it is A VERY COMMON misconception that therefore nothing is of any value to anyone.
if you spent any time at all in an online game in which the items/stats/etc are stored on a remote protected server, that you would know how valuable (relative to gamers and the setting) they really are. now i'm not saying you should give them real world value in every possible way, but just enough that's reasonable to allow one to enjoy the game for ALL players.
no one should have the right to ruin the play experience of everyone else in the game, which cheating invariably does. by definition, cheating is only done by a minority and they often have multiple stolen cd keys etc in order to get back to their deviant practices should they be caught; this cannot be undertaken by anyone else. such that, it means it is an unlawful practice (within the doctrine of the virtual world) and is considered a crime. the few exploit the many, frustrate the many, screw over the many, unjustifiably gain advantage over the many who have agreed to abide by certain basic rules of ethics online (and off interestingly enough...).
yes i've given this more thought than most people online... mostly because i've had more than enough of my share of this bullshit. no one has to put up with it.. but since blizzard, sony, ncsoft, etc want the cheating players (most whom !steal! and gain items unfairly to profit off of) to keep paying their 15 bucks (or more for multiple accounts), they screw the many thousands of honest players.
they have every opportunity to stop this kind of garbage but they choose not to. so ultimately, while there are many losers and unscrupulous people, the responsibility falls to the companies.
now you know who to blame and who to seek remedy from. it's up to you now, if you so choose.
"Ah well, it is just a game after all."
that's about one of the most pathetic and inane excuses i've ever heard. more so coming out of someone who , to my estimation, is not a teenager.
if it's "just" a game, surely you wouldn't spend hours upon hours playing it. and surely you wouldn't mind people cheating and ruining the structure of the game. and surely you wouldn't pay 15 bucks a month to play "just" a game.
it clearly represents some value; that alone would negate the "just" aspect of the game. clearly, you need some education on this matter because everything in the world is not "just" if it has value to at least one person (and not even that much).
it's what i call the "losers excuse" and with JUSTifiably good reason.
(and yes, some of what you meant probably indicates that since it doesn't really matter to you much, that you can say "it's just a game" and feel better about it. i just want to cover the other issues involved)
i have heard countless times online of how people hate cheating/cheaters, hacks, exploits in online gaming.
yet the majority of the posts here are made by people not only condoning it but advocating and joining in themselves.
and thus you get what you earn.
now in my opinion, the only course of action blizzard should take is to ban the cd keys of everyone caught duplicating items (exploiting code against the TOS in a way that screws up the game for everyone).
but i can tell you with 100% certainty that it won't happen. blizzard is about one of the most lax on the issue of cheating/hacking/what have you. all of their online games are absolutely FULL of cheaters. they do this by design, since once they have your money they do the absolute minimum required to maintain their servers and games.
online gaming is THE future of gaming... or so the industry is betting. and this is just about the biggest problem online currently. the only one that's bigger is the number of "kiddies", immature people playing. (you know what i mean, i'm sure).
continue to be lax and screw the vast majority of people who don't cheat and want to play fairly. the fact that these a**holes profit monetarily from selling these unearned items really gets my goat. criminals by definition.
whatever. i stopped playing online games just about entirely , though on occassion i will play a few mins here and there. this problem will only get worse as we go forward. more and more of the population will have to endure this kind of absurdity and most do not have the patience or willpower to put up with it. nor should they.
unfortunetly... the answer to this WILL be treacherous computing with its "remote attestation" function. it probably will help a great deal with eliminating cheating but it will also be just about the worst thing that could happen to the internet in general. it will eventually be required by law (if it isn't already) to get access to the net.
well you can read about the specific issues of that in other resources.
anyway, i guess i'm done.. for now.
broadband.
period.
and you wanna know why?
1/2/4/8 megabits DOWN...
128/256 kiloBITS UP.
by any reasonable definition, it is NOT broadband (please don't nitpick, i use broadband in the sense that most people understand).
when connections become at least synchronous, then and only then can you consider it broadband.
right now, it's just a joke. the fact that the "FCC" so conveniently forgot to address it (when not trying to please it's corporate masters by forcing the broadcast flag onto the unsuspecting populace and which also the mainstream media somehow forgot to mention while showing 20 different views of the scott peterson trial...) simply means the fcc has no business being involved any longer in the regulation of communications.
but you didn't fully read my post...
one: it's illegal under the dmca to even link to the site you did, it's also illegal to use it.
two: you have to go out of your way to find something like that... this time they were able to find a way to circumvent it... with treacherous computing, it'll be much much harder (unless a buffer overflow works...like reversing the polarity, except that it works.)
three: valve is saying "we don't trust you, our customers, so we'll call you consumers and take extra rights for ourselves and control our product after the transaction has been completed"
four: most people bring up the " you don't have to be online to play etcetc"
as a matter of fact, you have to get permission from valve every few days as they so graciously made the mechanism expire. if that isn't offensive to you... well wait a few years... you'll have a better grip on what that means then.
five: they have the ability and have exercised it to disable the account of any steam subscriber for any reason whatsoever WITHOUT any sort of trial or ability to rescind the "judgement". that's right folks, they can make your copy of the game you bought with your hard-earned dollars disappear. now imagine if any other industry pulled this shit...
and these are some of the reason off the top of my head why steam is pure shit/garbage and since you cannot legally seperate steam from hl2, that hl2 is also pure shit.
next time some ignorant "f**boy" starts spouting the valve corporate propoganda line or says why don't you whiny a**holes just shut up and take it, you can copy and paste this post for them to read.
i'm saying their rights to use the network which they pay for with their massive and ever-increasing tuition shall not be infringed.
and when you take the same attitude of "the big copyright extending, EU/US "harmonization" cartels/thugs" from really and actually stealing from the public then i'll be glad to discuss this further with you.
i wonder how they can monitor encyrpted communications...
i mean all you would have to do is set up the appropriate config and they would be none the wiser. most p2p apps have configurable ports. then there's pptp, proxies, etc.
frankly i don't see how it's not possible.
in what way is japanese voice acting superior?
for me, i would have to have a far more enormous understanding of japanese culture and people and language to make such a distinction.
i have no such understanding. i just want to enjoy watching a movie/video and not have to learn all the intracacies that go along with having your level of understanding. you see, i don't speak japanese. i don't read japanese. i don't understand in great detail the japanese culture. i also don't want to get a phd in japanese/culture in order to more fully enjoy a video.
that's overstating it but some people want to be more involved and enjoy that sort of thing. for me, all i hear is noise and chatter. i rather want something that i understand and can relax and enjoy the film.
i guess i'm saying that i see it as a form of entertainment rather than an art form. so in that context, is it reasonable to say that i prefer dubs to subs? accounting for disgust with the english voice acting etc.
actually you make some good points.
but really, cartoons or any form of animation was very much also an adult thing. during the early parts of the last century, many cartoons had themes not very relevant to children. also during ww2, many of the cartoon characters we are familiar with, were aimed at propogandizing the adult public. looking back at the flintstones for example, there are many intracacies that are only valuable to an adult audience. also take the simpsons/futurama/family guy/etc... clearly they go way over the head of children.
when people say cartoons are for kids, they must be very fixated on the saturday morning cartoon era.
clearly, any person can watch any type of moving display and that the only limiter, if you will is the content.
but it goes both ways... when you say anime isn't a cartoon i'd have to disagree. cartoon to me means any type of non-live animation. so when you say anime isn't a cartoon, you're saying it's something special or different. in effect, the content doesn't differentiate it sufficiently for me to give it a new designation.
as for your example above... romance novel and kids book... by my way of thinking, it doesn't matter what words are written on the pages... they are both books. perhaps it matters to you, but both are books in my mind. further categorization can occur but that's beyond the scope of my argument.
so when you hear my say CARTOON, i want people to understand, that ultimately, anime isn't special enough because of its content to warrant having a name change.
a cartoon by any other name...