since when is their business model any concern of the customers'?
once they sell them the shiny plastic discs, all bets are off as to how they use it. they are perfectly within their moral right to use it how they see fit. these idiotic laws are against the letter and spirit of fundamental property laws. as long as they buy a copy, they can play on any server they want. though of course, the companies will fight to the death to prevent people from doing just that.
now if you'll excuse me, i have to tell the automobile industry to stop infringing the rights of horse and buggy companies and cease production immediately.
"Sure, MS takes a loss on each x-box, so they don't want you to figure out how to use the hardware without buying games."
and their business model is in what way my concern?
once they sell you the "box" they cease ownership of it. they can fuck off and die, along with those other 2 assholes in the console business. what fucking right do they have restricting the use of hardware you fucking BUY?
answer that question, legally and morally, they are in the wrong. and i'm talking about laws that, you know, make sense, not the new age bs laws that seem to be prevalent since the industrial age.
they can use another mechanism to prevent you from copying games, but i want those processors under my control.
they still won't do it... because just like the RIAA/MPAA the real power is the power to control. they don't want people using their OWN hardware in a way that the manufacturer doesn't authorize (like they have any fucking authority, legally or morally to do shit like that).
the laws won't change, i know that. in order to change the law into something just, there would have to be just people in charge of the laws.
reading comments from anonymous coward shills like you IS sickening.
intel clearly broke the law and is going to be screwed by the courts, as they should be.
that you are defending their clearly illegal and most of all immortal/unethical practices tells me you are someone who doesn't care about the facts, so much as you do in promoting illegal monopolies and strong arm tactics for MONEY.
intel will IN NO WAY go bankrupt over this. even if in the end they pay a few billion in fines (which i think is an appropriate ammount considering the damage they've done), they make more than that in a year. the fact that you bring up them going bankrupt is an obvious ploy to distract attention from the real matter. also it helps as an emotional attack (OMG, intel is going bankrupt and now AMD will be a monopoly).
how about you fuck off and die, and let the rest of us live in some semblance of peace.
yes sir, ladies and gentleman. one of the biggest benefits of pc software is that you don't have to get permission to write arbitrary programs or make your own modifications to existing ones.
eat that consoles, err DRM-crippled entertainment devices.
it's only slightly off-topic but it really needs to be said. do whatever you wish.
the one and only reason i or any other reasonable person who has insight into this situation is:
you don't !control! the hardware you purchased. tivo can do things behind your back with the help of forced updates to negate any "hacks" aka things that help you wrest control away from people who have no business telling you what to do with your hw.
tivo = DRM
frankly, all i want is a digital VCR. i don't want listings, i don't want recommendations. i don't even watch much tv anyway and the occasional programs i do watch, i just want to record to watch later and i want to do that manually but have it recorded digitally on a small appliance with a Hard drive.
people really will get what they earn... keep buying DRM-crippled devices and the terrorists really will have won.
how many secret missions has it carried out against international law?
the elections of 2000 and 2004 were stolen... the fact that the mainstream liars won't report it doesn't it legitimate. there is plenty of evidence that there was massive vote fraud. even have the CEO of diebold promising Ohio to bush... well that's only just one damning piece of evidence out of hundreds of others.
no one in their right mind would compare the 2.
and frankly, the mainsteam liars are trying to show that iran's elections are a farce... well they just have no credibility left. so you'd have to find another source from which it shows their elections were like the US's aka fraudulent.
i'm saying that the tin foil hat bullshit is just a retarded and ignorant cover for things that go on all the time that most people don't have a fucking clue about.
it is ROUTINE.
that most people are ignorant about it, doesn't make it about aliens or UFO's or any such crappy related stuff.
so when i see TINFOIL, it has nothing to do with paranoia. it's just as natural as the sun coming up in the morning or birds singing.
people say TINFOIL as if human behavior would absolutely not allow such a condition.
time and time again, assholes routinely do shit like this. it isn't anything even remotely new.
do you understand now? tinfoil is a way of getting people to relate clandestine operations in such a way that to reveal that these situations in fact go on all the time, makes the whistleblower a looney and hence not credible.
it is a psychological attack. it is a way of downplaying illegal events in the public mind such that they do nothing about it and consider the people who relate information about it as kooks, crazy etc.
seeing as how nobody on/. has been anywhere near the bottom of the ocean or near those cables, one cannot discount the possibility.
who the fuck are other people to say what your business can or cannot do.
i routintely tell my employees to sabotage the factories of our esteemed comptetitors. and i even sanction whacking off a few people in key positions. i also condone kidnap and ransom of our competitors' family members.
frankly, this childish behavior that somehow "businesses have to be moral or legal" is complete and utter bullshit.
grow up motherfuckers.
this is the real world.
if you can't hang with the big dogs, go and suck on your mommy's teets.
the american way is practice immoral and illegal business practices, then when the competition, what remains of it, complains, have your "friends" at the FTC/ dept of injustice have the cases dismissed.
politicians and business, corrupting the world since the primordial soup.
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since when is their business model any concern of the customers'?
once they sell them the shiny plastic discs, all bets are off as to how they use it. they are perfectly within their moral right to use it how they see fit. these idiotic laws are against the letter and spirit of fundamental property laws. as long as they buy a copy, they can play on any server they want. though of course, the companies will fight to the death to prevent people from doing just that.
now if you'll excuse me, i have to tell the automobile industry to stop infringing the rights of horse and buggy companies and cease production immediately.
and if you DID buy the games and expansions.. wouldn't you have the right to use those copyrighted files?
seems like to me, the more they squeeze, the more things slip through their fingers.
you do realize that no one in their right mind would use their authentic CD key to play on non-blizzard servers?
then people running those servers would amass a huge number of real cd keys.
no... they just run a key gen to play on these servers and good that they do.
now let's recalculate how many real owners just want to play on non-blizz servers...
"Sure, MS takes a loss on each x-box, so they don't want you to figure out how to use the hardware without buying games."
and their business model is in what way my concern?
once they sell you the "box" they cease ownership of it. they can fuck off and die, along with those other 2 assholes in the console business. what fucking right do they have restricting the use of hardware you fucking BUY?
answer that question, legally and morally, they are in the wrong. and i'm talking about laws that, you know, make sense, not the new age bs laws that seem to be prevalent since the industrial age.
they can use another mechanism to prevent you from copying games, but i want those processors under my control.
they still won't do it... because just like the RIAA/MPAA the real power is the power to control. they don't want people using their OWN hardware in a way that the manufacturer doesn't authorize (like they have any fucking authority, legally or morally to do shit like that).
the laws won't change, i know that. in order to change the law into something just, there would have to be just people in charge of the laws.
reading comments from anonymous coward shills like you IS sickening.
intel clearly broke the law and is going to be screwed by the courts, as they should be.
that you are defending their clearly illegal and most of all immortal/unethical practices tells me you are someone who doesn't care about the facts, so much as you do in promoting illegal monopolies and strong arm tactics for MONEY.
intel will IN NO WAY go bankrupt over this. even if in the end they pay a few billion in fines (which i think is an appropriate ammount considering the damage they've done), they make more than that in a year. the fact that you bring up them going bankrupt is an obvious ploy to distract attention from the real matter. also it helps as an emotional attack (OMG, intel is going bankrupt and now AMD will be a monopoly).
how about you fuck off and die, and let the rest of us live in some semblance of peace.
how can the courts DECIDE if no suit is brought?
it has nothing to do with an "unfair advantage" and everything to do with breaking anti-trust laws.
one wonders how much intel pays for online shills nowadays.
do you get full medical and dental benefits?
anonymous cowards are sometimes shills.
and not very good ones at that.
too obvious. next time, try to at least hide the fact that you suck at the intel teet.
yeah, if the puppy practices unfair, illegal unethical business behavior, then they should screw the pooch.
you do realize everything on tv (corporate at least) is propoganda. they are far more subtle than the typical bs that most people call propoganda.
i'll leave it to you find them if you are so inclined.
run...
run well...
compare and contrast the two in 500 words or less. hand in your assignment first thing monday.
why would you need anyone's approval to write programs for hardware you own?
get out of that mentality, or you'll wake up someday without the "right to read".
given enough time, the cpu in your 1970's calculator could also deliver toy story... in roughly a decade or two.
and when they apply some kind of filtering, it drops down to 5-10.
/70m numbers. they did everything to encourage that kind of bs mentality.
get real, they didn't do anything to disprove the 170m
even to this day, the dreamcast looks better, as do current gen consoles.
you assume very incorrectly that after paying for one of these devices, you foolishly think you "own" it.
keep dreaming though, it'll help you get through the dark times that are soon upon us.
and hence you can have a lot more space for more flash ads.
no consoles on that list? (what, me read TFA?)
yes sir, ladies and gentleman. one of the biggest benefits of pc software is that you don't have to get permission to write arbitrary programs or make your own modifications to existing ones.
eat that consoles, err DRM-crippled entertainment devices.
it's only slightly off-topic but it really needs to be said. do whatever you wish.
the one and only reason i or any other reasonable person who has insight into this situation is:
you don't !control! the hardware you purchased. tivo can do things behind your back with the help of forced updates to negate any "hacks" aka things that help you wrest control away from people who have no business telling you what to do with your hw.
tivo = DRM
frankly, all i want is a digital VCR. i don't want listings, i don't want recommendations. i don't even watch much tv anyway and the occasional programs i do watch, i just want to record to watch later and i want to do that manually but have it recorded digitally on a small appliance with a Hard drive.
people really will get what they earn... keep buying DRM-crippled devices and the terrorists really will have won.
tell me how many nations iran has invaded?
how many secret missions has it carried out against international law?
the elections of 2000 and 2004 were stolen... the fact that the mainstream liars won't report it doesn't it legitimate. there is plenty of evidence that there was massive vote fraud. even have the CEO of diebold promising Ohio to bush... well that's only just one damning piece of evidence out of hundreds of others.
no one in their right mind would compare the 2.
and frankly, the mainsteam liars are trying to show that iran's elections are a farce... well they just have no credibility left. so you'd have to find another source from which it shows their elections were like the US's aka fraudulent.
do me a favor, try finding a web site where it shows for sale a 512K clawhammer.
it might be hard since they don't exist.
and when i say clawhammer, i'm taking about the entire cpu, with the pins and packaging.
i'm trying to remember what they call s754 512k cache cpus... but it isn't clawhammer.
i'm not even sure we're even on the same page, but anyway...
and hence you didn't understand my post.
/. has been anywhere near the bottom of the ocean or near those cables, one cannot discount the possibility.
i'm saying that the tin foil hat bullshit is just a retarded and ignorant cover for things that go on all the time that most people don't have a fucking clue about.
it is ROUTINE.
that most people are ignorant about it, doesn't make it about aliens or UFO's or any such crappy related stuff.
so when i see TINFOIL, it has nothing to do with paranoia. it's just as natural as the sun coming up in the morning or birds singing.
people say TINFOIL as if human behavior would absolutely not allow such a condition.
time and time again, assholes routinely do shit like this. it isn't anything even remotely new.
do you understand now? tinfoil is a way of getting people to relate clandestine operations in such a way that to reveal that these situations in fact go on all the time, makes the whistleblower a looney and hence not credible.
it is a psychological attack. it is a way of downplaying illegal events in the public mind such that they do nothing about it and consider the people who relate information about it as kooks, crazy etc.
seeing as how nobody on
i didn't realize how many intel shills there are here on /. .
makes you think how many so called "fanboys" really are just shills.
i agree with you.
who the fuck are other people to say what your business can or cannot do.
i routintely tell my employees to sabotage the factories of our esteemed comptetitors. and i even sanction whacking off a few people in key positions. i also condone kidnap and ransom of our competitors' family members.
frankly, this childish behavior that somehow "businesses have to be moral or legal" is complete and utter bullshit.
grow up motherfuckers.
this is the real world.
if you can't hang with the big dogs, go and suck on your mommy's teets.
i didn't realize until now that you work for Intel.
the american way is practice immoral and illegal business practices, then when the competition, what remains of it, complains, have your "friends" at the FTC/ dept of injustice have the cases dismissed.
politicians and business, corrupting the world since the primordial soup.
do you also drool over their immoral and illegal business practices?