clawhammer and slegehammer both have 1MB of l2 cache. the difference is that sledgehammer is the codename for opterons and clawhammer is the codename for athlon64s. the 1MB cache clawhammers only use 1 hypertransport link, whereas the opterons/sledgehammers use 2, hence dual channel. but the athlon64 FX uses the opteron core, which has 2 HT links also.
and the clawhammers are all socket 754. i should know, i am using one at the moment.
just search the web for the relevant specs if you don't believe me.
with 2 fricking megabytes of cache, i'd expect it to compete with the itanium.
that's why it costs a lot more than an equivalent amd cpu.
cache, high speed on-die cache in large quantities is very expensive and a lazy-man's way of boosting performance. check out why server/workstation cpus from IBM/SUN/HP etc have 2-8 MB!'s of cache... and they cost many thousands of dollars.
the fact that they just barely beat opterons/a64's with so much cache, shows just how much they suck per unit of dollars.
clearly, they are sobs, just like ms. so the fact that apple would deal with aholes like intel, is an immoral choice. it may be good for business, but certainly not for their image.
dealing with the devil will eventually get you burned.
what does routine spying and espionage have to do with "TIN FOIL HATS"?
it's ignorant dumbasses like yourself that cannot see that it is in fact going on all the time. of course they won't televise or write about it, cause it's supposed to be a clandestine operation.
so quit with your retarded "TIN FOIL" bullshit.
people have been spying on each other since the begining of time. it has nothing to do with FOIL, TIN or ALUMINUM.
well i consider this machine in the article to be mildly faster than what i use, which isn't that fast IMO.
so maybe in 2015 they'll finally have some cpus that are REALLY fast.
it's like we're stuck in 2002 these days. and SMP is really crap so far for gaming. granted, no one is making any real SMP games... but that's where it stands at the moment.
and how do you know what the average joe in iran wants?
from my limited knowledge of the subject, only the US backed "protesters" hate the mullahs. the average joe doesn't want their country ruled from the pentagon . no more than you would want to be ruled from tehran.
i mean it's not like you support paying and flying thousands of american citizens of persian descent into iran and stirring up dissent and leading protests. and you obviously don't support such misuse of american tax payer money. perhaps you do support the iranian authorities who lock up those "foreign agents". ahh yes. you might also disapprove of american news coverage of said arrests making it appear that they are locking up their own citizens.
it's funny how the lying mainstream media that helped trick the people of America into yet another war, treats the current US administration as if it were legitimate.
why the hell is it anyone's business what regime a foreign nation has?
does Iran have the right to change the US regime? does any country have a right to even have the audacity to openly declare an intention to meddle in the affairs of other nations?
you're nothing but a goddamn shill. go spread your lies and hate somewhere else.
yeah, both cheat, but nvidia is the king of cheating.
clearly SLI/crossfire/expensiveshit is a complete waste of time/money for 99% of users, even enthusiasts, so ultimately i don't care for it and i don't really follow it much as i never expect to ever use it.
but on the shader replacement... they say it is mathematically identical but that seems to me to be some sort of "PR" speak. clearly it doesn't output the same image, pixel for pixel otherwise they would say that clearly. there is no advantage to saying "mathematically identical" unless they are trying to deceive people. granted... you or i may not see that much difference during gameplay, but it is dishonest and unethical, doubly more so when the option isn't left to the user to decide.
ati and nvidia are both dishonest and unethical, ultimately. one is better than the other but that's like saying vomit and shit; one is better than the other...
personally, i'm disappointed by the performance of the g70. yes it is sometimes 50% faster but in only very high resolutions, and even then, the frame rate is abysmal. i will not spend 600 bucks for 30 fps. the days of the voodoo1 30fps are over. i want high end cards to provide high end performance, in all games and all resolutions.
clearly, you know i'll be skipping this generation. seems to me that the r520 will no doubt be faster than g70 but it won't be sufficient an upgrade. i'll wait for the real next gen before i even think about upgrading.
you do realize though that sm3 wasn't even required 6-12 months ago and games are just now barely using them. it was wise of ati not to waste die space for a feature that wasn't needed at the time. the fact that nvidia was still using shader replacement for their 6 series says a lot to me.
do you think that next gen consoles will suddenly have less power draw?
they are trying to cram multi core cpus and high end gfx into a tiny box.. it's a wonder they don't just take off when turned on. not to mention, melt all over your carpet.
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ah, the good ol ftc.
the bastion of justice and right-doing.
"In the end, Intel will pay a fine and agree to not do anymore what they never admitted to doing in the first place."
ah good ole justice. i'd recognize it anywhere.
would you also like to hear microsoft's side of the story on why they are sons of bitches too?
clearly, i don't give a damn what intel says. they've been doing immoral and illegal shit as far back as anyone can remember.
that it's taken this long to hand them their asses, is what surprises me.
no you are mistaken.
clawhammer and slegehammer both have 1MB of l2 cache. the difference is that sledgehammer is the codename for opterons and clawhammer is the codename for athlon64s. the 1MB cache clawhammers only use 1 hypertransport link, whereas the opterons/sledgehammers use 2, hence dual channel. but the athlon64 FX uses the opteron core, which has 2 HT links also.
and the clawhammers are all socket 754. i should know, i am using one at the moment.
just search the web for the relevant specs if you don't believe me.
with 2 fricking megabytes of cache, i'd expect it to compete with the itanium.
that's why it costs a lot more than an equivalent amd cpu.
cache, high speed on-die cache in large quantities is very expensive and a lazy-man's way of boosting performance. check out why server/workstation cpus from IBM/SUN/HP etc have 2-8 MB!'s of cache... and they cost many thousands of dollars.
the fact that they just barely beat opterons/a64's with so much cache, shows just how much they suck per unit of dollars.
do you look at ms windows as choice?
clearly, they are sobs, just like ms. so the fact that apple would deal with aholes like intel, is an immoral choice. it may be good for business, but certainly not for their image.
dealing with the devil will eventually get you burned.
big a c***sucker as MS, maybe even more so yet people on /. seem not to care or even love them.
it's about frigging time this happened. maybe fine them a few billion dollars... nah.. won't happen. it'll be another DOI vs MS. slap on the wrist.
what does routine spying and espionage have to do with "TIN FOIL HATS"?
it's ignorant dumbasses like yourself that cannot see that it is in fact going on all the time. of course they won't televise or write about it, cause it's supposed to be a clandestine operation.
so quit with your retarded "TIN FOIL" bullshit.
people have been spying on each other since the begining of time. it has nothing to do with FOIL, TIN or ALUMINUM.
so when he decides your children ought to invade Iran, what'll the american people do?
perhaps move to tenesee, they have some great minds over there.
well i consider this machine in the article to be mildly faster than what i use, which isn't that fast IMO.
so maybe in 2015 they'll finally have some cpus that are REALLY fast.
it's like we're stuck in 2002 these days. and SMP is really crap so far for gaming. granted, no one is making any real SMP games... but that's where it stands at the moment.
and how do you know what the average joe in iran wants?
from my limited knowledge of the subject, only the US backed "protesters" hate the mullahs. the average joe doesn't want their country ruled from the pentagon . no more than you would want to be ruled from tehran.
i mean it's not like you support paying and flying thousands of american citizens of persian descent into iran and stirring up dissent and leading protests. and you obviously don't support such misuse of american tax payer money. perhaps you do support the iranian authorities who lock up those "foreign agents". ahh yes. you might also disapprove of american news coverage of said arrests making it appear that they are locking up their own citizens.
no, i think you are just misinformed.
it's funny how the lying mainstream media that helped trick the people of America into yet another war, treats the current US administration as if it were legitimate.
why the hell is it anyone's business what regime a foreign nation has?
does Iran have the right to change the US regime? does any country have a right to even have the audacity to openly declare an intention to meddle in the affairs of other nations?
you're nothing but a goddamn shill. go spread your lies and hate somewhere else.
imperialist, terrorist warmongers dept.
"Ask yourself this: if the Iranians didn't want the censorship, would American companies be helping them do it, if they even are? No, of course not."
no, they'd just topple their government, install a brutal regime then feign ignorance when they say things like "the great satan".
should be in the Apple section... /geese
DRM-encumbered format.
let me be the first to say "fuck off and die"
because they have a big dick, and consumers have such small holes...
yes, we definitely also need to hold software writers accountable also.
they've EULA'd their way out of way too many things no other manufacturer could dare to hope for.
passed DOWNING STREET, collect your shackles and report to lifetime imprisonment inside the tower of london.
no smart ass, leeching off of your ignorant neighbor's connection.
if you want to use it, ask the neighbor first.
it's not an infinite resource per unit of time, therefore get permission first.
like that'll happen, but hey whatever.
why do you need porn? when you can just drill a hole into your neighbor's bedroom/bathroom?
cause one's illegal and immoral.
clearly, hollywood would do anything it can to enforce their rules.
if it meant that it would require you to wear a remote-controlled electronic device attached to your scrotum, they would certainly do it.
stop paying them. starve them to death of their revenue.
that is the only answer.
yeah, both cheat, but nvidia is the king of cheating.
clearly SLI/crossfire/expensiveshit is a complete waste of time/money for 99% of users, even enthusiasts, so ultimately i don't care for it and i don't really follow it much as i never expect to ever use it.
but on the shader replacement... they say it is mathematically identical but that seems to me to be some sort of "PR" speak. clearly it doesn't output the same image, pixel for pixel otherwise they would say that clearly. there is no advantage to saying "mathematically identical" unless they are trying to deceive people. granted... you or i may not see that much difference during gameplay, but it is dishonest and unethical, doubly more so when the option isn't left to the user to decide.
ati and nvidia are both dishonest and unethical, ultimately. one is better than the other but that's like saying vomit and shit; one is better than the other...
personally, i'm disappointed by the performance of the g70. yes it is sometimes 50% faster but in only very high resolutions, and even then, the frame rate is abysmal. i will not spend 600 bucks for 30 fps. the days of the voodoo1 30fps are over. i want high end cards to provide high end performance, in all games and all resolutions.
clearly, you know i'll be skipping this generation. seems to me that the r520 will no doubt be faster than g70 but it won't be sufficient an upgrade. i'll wait for the real next gen before i even think about upgrading.
you do realize though that sm3 wasn't even required 6-12 months ago and games are just now barely using them. it was wise of ati not to waste die space for a feature that wasn't needed at the time. the fact that nvidia was still using shader replacement for their 6 series says a lot to me.
do you think that next gen consoles will suddenly have less power draw?
they are trying to cram multi core cpus and high end gfx into a tiny box.. it's a wonder they don't just take off when turned on. not to mention, melt all over your carpet.