For once a content producer has taken things into their own hands to ensure a return on their investment instead of troubling the courts with it, which always ends up sounding like childish whining no matter which side is speaking.
But that's what it comes down to - if you don't like the terms of purchase of the game, don't buy it, but definitely don't steal it. Just wait until the copyright expires.
I fully agree that copyright rules are pretty well fscked up right now. Anything over a 2 year copyright term on a video game strikes me as kind of pointless, and 20 or 50 or whatever years it is now is downright stupid. Information should be free, but the creators deserve to make some money off it first, and on their terms, not the public's.
I think it would be great if there was a 2 year (or maybe 5 year as a compromise) copyright on digital media (movies, games, music, etc). That way the freeloaders can still get their little hands on it eventually, they just need to wait a bit.
1. Purchase pay-to-call and pay-to-sms services 2. Stand on street corner with megaphone yelling out instructions for phones to dial and message my numbers 3. Profit!
In fact you could just buy ads during popular TV shows that clearly speak the same instructions...
followed by are You Being Served. I have yet to find anybody who doesn't like Sloakum and Humphries.
You know... I just never 'got' that show. I was probably too young to fully appreciate it at the time (certainly the pussy jokes went right over my head) but still... even now when it's on i still normally just give it a miss.
But you're right, the movie was probably a bad place to start. It's all I had though, and my kids watch too much tv as it is so i have mixed feelings about introducing more of it:)
I think he's actually in an urn somewhere, unless that reunion just included the urn for comedy purposes. Still, an urn perched in a bird cage could be just as funny (and arguably a lot more tasteful) than a rotting corpse. The idea of someone buying a Chapman who was already cremated and in an urn and then trying to return him because he is dead (and having the shopkeeper try and argue to the contrary) would work on a lot of levels.
having ANY new Python will be so damned refreshing
I certainly hope so. It would be so sad if this generation grow up thinking Monty Python was a bunch of old farts who were only vaguely amusing, and never go on to explore their older works because of this one movie.
It's possible their humour has become a bit dated though wrt what kids/teens these days find funny. When I watched it when I was a kid, Monty Python (and the Goodies, Not The Nine O'Clock News, etc) were the funniest things ever. When I put the Holy Grail on for the kids (aged around 5, 7, 9, and 14 at the time - i'd kind of forgotten about the spanking and oral sex references until the castle anthrax scene started:) a while ago the 14yo enjoyed it but still didn't really connect with it the way I would have even at a younger age. The younger kids were pretty "meh" about it.
Watching the shows they watch on ABC3 (Australian government/taxpayer sponsored kids channel), I can kind of see why. Those shows are fantastic and often far sillier than MP ever were, and you can kind of tell that some of the writers probably grew up with MP themselves. MP and other comedy in that style was my first exposure to that sort of "silly" humour, but now it's everywhere.
Personally, the online keys were the last straw for me.
So people say "your business model is flawed, i'm going to make an illegal copy of your game", and when they do fall into line with the new world order and make the game itself free to copy but require payment to play it (the right way of doing things IMHO - the world seems to think that information should be free these days), they go and set prices so ridiculous that people still walk away.
If the license to play was $9.95 instead of $60, and you just downloaded the media app-store style, I bet the whole idea of trying to sell the game secondhand becomes more trouble than it's worth.
Also, they should set a sunset date on requiring a license at all. After some time (1 year? 3 years?) the game becomes free to play, maybe with some trailers in it for new games.
In court you are required to tell the truth aren't you?
Only while under oath. You are not required to tell the truth during a police investigation, but any lie that you tell them can impeach your credibility later in court. And since sometimes you telling the truth can be impeached by the testimony of another person, your credibility can be damaged in court later regardless of the truth of your statements... so don't talk to the police except to demand a lawyer.
I'm Australian but I assume US law is what we are discussing here...
Lying to an investigator does seem to be fairly illegal according to Wikipedia... the font of all knowledge;)
Assuming you don't actually _know_ any national secrets, a CSS decryption key would be just as good. "I would be breaking the law if I gave you a copy of that key".
In court you are required to tell the truth aren't you? So if you lie about robbing the store but later confess and plead guilty, can they get you for lying in a court of law too? Or is the court normally prepared to overlook that based on the fact that the defendant gave a confession?
Or maybe it's not that simple and i've just been watching too many courtroom dramatisations on tv?
If america is going to shut down websites and prosecute foreign citizens (MegaUpload.com) for violation of OUR laws then we should expect the same from foreign countries. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Im Just Sayin
So take the guys cars away from him.
OTOH, maybe this is just the start of the outsourcing of the death penalty by the US. "Attention MegaUpload.com guy, due to technical difficulties the plane currently extraditing you to the US for trial is making a brief stopover in Iran. Feel free to get out and stretch your legs.".
Just like microsoft had a wait and see attitude with mobile phone OS then iOS and Android swept the market and then they released windows mobile 7 to a world that didn't care.
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Microsoft entered the mobile device business long before Apple and Linux, the problem was that they sucked. Really bad. Until Windows Mobile 7 I always told people "whatever phone you get, make sure it doesn't have Windows on it". Now nobody asks me anymore... the question is "should I buy an Apple or something with Android on it?". So you're right about the not caring bit.
Path of least resistance does not apply to electricity. It follows every field gradient and takes every path as fast as it can. The current through each path is limited by the reduction of the gradient caused by the charge already along the path, a.k.a. resistance.
The "path of least resistance" explanation always bugged me too when I heard it in high school... if it was true, all the electricity in your house (and by extrapolation, your street) would only flow through the appliance with the least resistance and would refuse to flow though all the other appliances, which is clearly not the case.
The internal resistance of the battery supplying the power might make it look like this is what's happening if you put a very low resistance device in parallel with a higher resistance device, but it's still wrong.
It's more a lack of confirmation than an actual problem.
It's like saying "Well, this telescope is aimed at the night sky, but it's not in focus so we can't see Jupiter" rather than "OMG, the planet Jupiter is missing from the Heavens!"
Sorry, I ran out of car analogies.
"Dude! Where's my car?" is probably all the analogy you need.
It's very unlikely this happens in every case, but it takes more than a single nutjob attacking someone, or even many nutjobs attacking, to make someone leave the community. It takes good people like you and me to ignore the nutjobs, to not step in and say, "That's enough."
Excuse my incredulity, but is this attitude really helping? You are continuing to promulgate the idea that women need the help of men to survive -- like it's YOUR job to step in and say "enough."
If I received a threat implying I'd come to harm at a conference, I'd show up to the conference with some brass knuckles, and anybody trying to make good on that threat would be leaving the conference minus a set of front teeth, and perhaps minus their complete set of cognitive abilities.
Women cannot gain independence via dependence.
If you put the strongest black man in the world in a room with 100 white supremicists bent on his destruction, the fact that the black man now needs help doesn't make him weak.
And in the OP's case, it is YOUR job to step in and at the very least say "this nutjob does not represent me".
Actually, the DNA is exactly the same. You did not know it, right? It is okey, you are just a boy. Now go back to school and check again what is the difference.
The DNA is exactly the same... between boys and girls? I suspect you missed a biology lesson about X and Y chromosomes somewhere along the way.
Fuck, we just need to bring public caning back, or hack parts of limbs off. Those have to be for heinous things though like theft that causes damages of $5,000 or more (cane them for less). Take two fingers each time. Figure if someone can't figure out after five tries, they really don't enjoy having functional hands, and eating. Figure after the first time it'll just stop. People who steal stuff like copper won't be served by MORE education. They are out of the K-12 educational system by then, and generally methed outa their head.
Why wait for laws like this to be introduced? There are a countries that are decades ahead of the US with laws like that in place right now and if you speak to the governments there they say the laws are working wonderfully. You should move to one of those countries. Today.
As much as we feel motivated to say something about the sort of crap people will post about stuff like this ("all it takes for evil to succeed" etc), they already know they're assholes, the rest of us already know they're assholes, and the reactions you and I are giving them are exactly what they were aiming for when they did it. And to boot, most of the posts here are now about their comments rather than about TFA.
In future, just moderate them down as appropriate and say nothing more on the matter.
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For once a content producer has taken things into their own hands to ensure a return on their investment instead of troubling the courts with it, which always ends up sounding like childish whining no matter which side is speaking.
Nailed it. I wish I had your eloquence.
But that's what it comes down to - if you don't like the terms of purchase of the game, don't buy it, but definitely don't steal it. Just wait until the copyright expires.
I fully agree that copyright rules are pretty well fscked up right now. Anything over a 2 year copyright term on a video game strikes me as kind of pointless, and 20 or 50 or whatever years it is now is downright stupid. Information should be free, but the creators deserve to make some money off it first, and on their terms, not the public's.
I think it would be great if there was a 2 year (or maybe 5 year as a compromise) copyright on digital media (movies, games, music, etc). That way the freeloaders can still get their little hands on it eventually, they just need to wait a bit.
Why would you give it away on the platform with no competition but charge on the platform with a free alternative? That seems precisely backwards.
Because you can?
Don't google already get a licensing fee when a manufacturer puts Android on a phone?
DIRECTLY CALL PHONE NUMBERS
1. Purchase pay-to-call and pay-to-sms services
2. Stand on street corner with megaphone yelling out instructions for phones to dial and message my numbers
3. Profit!
In fact you could just buy ads during popular TV shows that clearly speak the same instructions...
followed by are You Being Served. I have yet to find anybody who doesn't like Sloakum and Humphries.
You know... I just never 'got' that show. I was probably too young to fully appreciate it at the time (certainly the pussy jokes went right over my head) but still... even now when it's on i still normally just give it a miss.
But you're right, the movie was probably a bad place to start. It's all I had though, and my kids watch too much tv as it is so i have mixed feelings about introducing more of it :)
I think he's actually in an urn somewhere, unless that reunion just included the urn for comedy purposes. Still, an urn perched in a bird cage could be just as funny (and arguably a lot more tasteful) than a rotting corpse. The idea of someone buying a Chapman who was already cremated and in an urn and then trying to return him because he is dead (and having the shopkeeper try and argue to the contrary) would work on a lot of levels.
having ANY new Python will be so damned refreshing
I certainly hope so. It would be so sad if this generation grow up thinking Monty Python was a bunch of old farts who were only vaguely amusing, and never go on to explore their older works because of this one movie.
It's possible their humour has become a bit dated though wrt what kids/teens these days find funny. When I watched it when I was a kid, Monty Python (and the Goodies, Not The Nine O'Clock News, etc) were the funniest things ever. When I put the Holy Grail on for the kids (aged around 5, 7, 9, and 14 at the time - i'd kind of forgotten about the spanking and oral sex references until the castle anthrax scene started :) a while ago the 14yo enjoyed it but still didn't really connect with it the way I would have even at a younger age. The younger kids were pretty "meh" about it.
Watching the shows they watch on ABC3 (Australian government/taxpayer sponsored kids channel), I can kind of see why. Those shows are fantastic and often far sillier than MP ever were, and you can kind of tell that some of the writers probably grew up with MP themselves. MP and other comedy in that style was my first exposure to that sort of "silly" humour, but now it's everywhere.
“This is unlikely to be an issue in reality unless you’re involved in anything dodgy.
If your company's not a front for terrorism, the Patriot Act shouldn't matter to it.
That's fine for today, but what about tomorrow when FOSS is considered terrorism??
Team Creates Footwear Recognition System
Did the team consist of Sheldon and Penny?
If I don't get first post, I guess I was busy changing my shoes.
Seriously, the system is going to break the first time these developers are introduced to WOMEN.
It could be useful at nightclubs though "Seriously... those shoes with _that_ dress? You have to be kidding me. Go away".
Before you break into a mans computer, first walk a mile in his shoes.
Personally, the online keys were the last straw for me.
So people say "your business model is flawed, i'm going to make an illegal copy of your game", and when they do fall into line with the new world order and make the game itself free to copy but require payment to play it (the right way of doing things IMHO - the world seems to think that information should be free these days), they go and set prices so ridiculous that people still walk away.
If the license to play was $9.95 instead of $60, and you just downloaded the media app-store style, I bet the whole idea of trying to sell the game secondhand becomes more trouble than it's worth.
Also, they should set a sunset date on requiring a license at all. After some time (1 year? 3 years?) the game becomes free to play, maybe with some trailers in it for new games.
In court you are required to tell the truth aren't you?
Only while under oath. You are not required to tell the truth during a police investigation, but any lie that you tell them can impeach your credibility later in court. And since sometimes you telling the truth can be impeached by the testimony of another person, your credibility can be damaged in court later regardless of the truth of your statements... so don't talk to the police except to demand a lawyer.
I'm Australian but I assume US law is what we are discussing here...
Lying to an investigator does seem to be fairly illegal according to Wikipedia... the font of all knowledge ;)
Can they force _you_ to break the law by giving them the key though?
Assuming you don't actually _know_ any national secrets, a CSS decryption key would be just as good. "I would be breaking the law if I gave you a copy of that key".
In court you are required to tell the truth aren't you? So if you lie about robbing the store but later confess and plead guilty, can they get you for lying in a court of law too? Or is the court normally prepared to overlook that based on the fact that the defendant gave a confession?
Or maybe it's not that simple and i've just been watching too many courtroom dramatisations on tv?
If america is going to shut down websites and prosecute foreign citizens (MegaUpload.com) for violation of OUR laws then we should expect the same from foreign countries. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Im Just Sayin
So take the guys cars away from him.
OTOH, maybe this is just the start of the outsourcing of the death penalty by the US. "Attention MegaUpload.com guy, due to technical difficulties the plane currently extraditing you to the US for trial is making a brief stopover in Iran. Feel free to get out and stretch your legs.".
Just like microsoft had a wait and see attitude with mobile phone OS then iOS and Android swept the market and then they released windows mobile 7 to a world that didn't care.
I don't think that's a fair comparison. Microsoft entered the mobile device business long before Apple and Linux, the problem was that they sucked. Really bad. Until Windows Mobile 7 I always told people "whatever phone you get, make sure it doesn't have Windows on it". Now nobody asks me anymore... the question is "should I buy an Apple or something with Android on it?". So you're right about the not caring bit.
Path of least resistance does not apply to electricity. It follows every field gradient and takes every path as fast as it can. The current through each path is limited by the reduction of the gradient caused by the charge already along the path, a.k.a. resistance.
The "path of least resistance" explanation always bugged me too when I heard it in high school... if it was true, all the electricity in your house (and by extrapolation, your street) would only flow through the appliance with the least resistance and would refuse to flow though all the other appliances, which is clearly not the case.
The internal resistance of the battery supplying the power might make it look like this is what's happening if you put a very low resistance device in parallel with a higher resistance device, but it's still wrong.
It's more a lack of confirmation than an actual problem.
It's like saying "Well, this telescope is aimed at the night sky, but it's not in focus so we can't see Jupiter" rather than "OMG, the planet Jupiter is missing from the Heavens!"
Sorry, I ran out of car analogies.
"Dude! Where's my car?" is probably all the analogy you need.
It's very unlikely this happens in every case, but it takes more than a single nutjob attacking someone, or even many nutjobs attacking, to make someone leave the community. It takes good people like you and me to ignore the nutjobs, to not step in and say, "That's enough."
Excuse my incredulity, but is this attitude really helping? You are continuing to promulgate the idea that women need the help of men to survive -- like it's YOUR job to step in and say "enough."
If I received a threat implying I'd come to harm at a conference, I'd show up to the conference with some brass knuckles, and anybody trying to make good on that threat would be leaving the conference minus a set of front teeth, and perhaps minus their complete set of cognitive abilities.
Women cannot gain independence via dependence.
If you put the strongest black man in the world in a room with 100 white supremicists bent on his destruction, the fact that the black man now needs help doesn't make him weak.
And in the OP's case, it is YOUR job to step in and at the very least say "this nutjob does not represent me".
Actually, the DNA is exactly the same. You did not know it, right? It is okey, you are just a boy. Now go back to school and check again what is the difference.
The DNA is exactly the same... between boys and girls? I suspect you missed a biology lesson about X and Y chromosomes somewhere along the way.
Fuck, we just need to bring public caning back, or hack parts of limbs off. Those have to be for heinous things though like theft that causes damages of $5,000 or more (cane them for less). Take two fingers each time. Figure if someone can't figure out after five tries, they really don't enjoy having functional hands, and eating. Figure after the first time it'll just stop. People who steal stuff like copper won't be served by MORE education. They are out of the K-12 educational system by then, and generally methed outa their head.
Why wait for laws like this to be introduced? There are a countries that are decades ahead of the US with laws like that in place right now and if you speak to the governments there they say the laws are working wonderfully. You should move to one of those countries. Today.
As much as we feel motivated to say something about the sort of crap people will post about stuff like this ("all it takes for evil to succeed" etc), they already know they're assholes, the rest of us already know they're assholes, and the reactions you and I are giving them are exactly what they were aiming for when they did it. And to boot, most of the posts here are now about their comments rather than about TFA.
In future, just moderate them down as appropriate and say nothing more on the matter.
On top of that, there has been absolutely no discussion as to what "ongoing" expenses there might be to actually operate this device.
I suspect the ongoing expenses will be large quantities of diesel fuel... purely as a lubricant of course.