Run an open week. I don't want to have to go out and purchase the game to "prove you wrong." I played the beta and was active in several forums, I was really hoping this was the game that could put my EverQuest addiction to rest. But sadly it was not. I still play EverQuest a few nights a week, and I'd like to move on but I haven't found a MMO that satisfies.
Vanguard made lots of promises but never really fulfilled them, and it's sad because on paper it really looked like a great game. Maybe they do now, but if you really want to prove it, have an open week where people can download the client and play for free, like an open beta. Yeah, there's a few logistical issues to work out but I'm sure Sony can take the load if prepared (I'm not being sarcastic...). If you want to bring us in, give us something to chew on. Everquest still gives out free month trials... the Trial of the Isle, which is essentially a month playing with the first three expansions on designated servers. The whole game, uncrippled. Something like that might help you prove your point.
I go back about 6 years, so does most of the core constituency. Sure, a lot of the edge players change, but the core of the guild is about the same as it ever was.
We have guilds in EverQuest that are alive and strong, and clocking in at over 8 years old... And there are often guilds that outlive games, jumping from one game to the next.
By comparison, no one would ever just randomly sudo a command for the hell of it.
You say that... apparently you don't know the same people I know. There is very little difference between sudo and UAC, and if you read the post above yours, there are times where UAC can be percieved as advantageous.
Yeah, the local university is building a three-story parking structure right next to the gym so that "patrons of the gym don't have to walk so far"/boggle.
Myself, I bike to work, shower down at the gym (and don't use the gym for anything else)... but I probably consume more calories (and red meat) than the average obese person. When you are burning calories, you got to consume them.
The funny thing is, people keep whining about how low cost PC's will kill MS because of the delta for licenses... I have a $300 HP notebook, with a dual CD/DVD writer (with LightScribe no less), and Vista Home. It's not gonna touch MS. Prices drop, more computers are sold, so they maybe drop the OEM license a bit but they make up for it in volume, the WalMart method.
There is a difference between a lie and not knowing something which is not immediately obvious.
Five minutes of googling reveal every point above. I'm sure none of the above were immediately obvious in Eclipse but you sought them out. To be fair you should do the same in both products, because you did not, you do not have a fair perspective.
I think it depends on the libraries used to a large extent. The test we did was a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo machine running GCC on Linux under Eclipse vs. a 3Ghz Core 2 Duo machine running Visual Studio 2005 Professional on Windows XP. Both were making clean debug builds of the same project (the start of a now much larger project) with the same major library versions. The Linux machine came in at 0:18 and the Windows machine came in at 1:16. I expected the Linux machine to come in last by far, but was pleasantly surprised.
I just use the standard STL implementations provided by each vendor (msvc, gcc, intel). My code is math intensive (CFD) but will suck down as many clock cycles as you throw at it, and typically runs faster under Windows for some reason. I do some aggressive optimizations on both platforms. But I get the same results on both platforms with zero optimizations. Same computer dual booting Windows x64 and RHEL.
The other funny thing is, I have access to a cluster, with some nice Itanium processors. I compile my code using gcc4.3.0, optimized and all, and run it on 4 processors. It runs at roughly the same speed as my home computer running on Visual Studio 2008 Express Edition, with profile-guided optimization only, and it's just a dual core AMD 4200 x64. It makes no sense to me because (a) the itanium processors are nicer, (b) I would expect Linux to have less overhead, (c) I haven't reformatted the Windows computer in 2 years, my wife uses it daily as her machine and God knows whats on it:P; the only thing I can blame right now is the gcc compiler which is why I'm starting to play with the Intel compiler under Linux and Windows. Then everything should be apples to apples, except the operating system.
OK, half of your complaints are key mappings. If you want to truly exploit the software, learn VS's key mappings.
* Multi-CPU compiling of the same project. Visual C++ charges (at least before 2008 came out, perhaps they dropped it - I doubt it) $2,500 for the luxury with the professional edition or above, and I'm not willing to drop $2,500 on -any- software just so it doesn't refuse to do something so basic.
Lies, lies and more lies. You can compile across multiple processors in the same project with VS 2005 express edition. Use the/MP compiler option. I have, with 2005 express edition.
* SVN integration right in the project view with Subversive....
If you go to thesubversion website, you'd see no less than three integration options with Microsoft Visual studio.
* Compiler speed. GCC is much faster than Visual C++ 2005 Professional on the project I am working on.
Funny, because I've had the opposite experience (heavy number-crunching codes) on identical hardware, and I've tried to have rational conversations with people to figure it out (because not only is the compiler faster, but the resulting code seems faster on Windows as well for the same number of cores, but the clusters I compute on are Linux), so I can't figure out if it's a gcc issue or if I am just dumb. Mostly playing with the Intel compilers right now to get a third opinion.
more varied OS/software environment would lessen the damage
Only if we don't unify our code, which probably won't happen because people will want to target broad user bases. When code can be compiled on a Windows machine to target a Linux machine, you still have problems.
I think s/he meant using a ruler to read across the table without losing your line. Although most slide rules could serve this purpose as well. I still use a ruler to read across old technical documents that are typeset very small on unruled paper...
Visual Studio 2008 beats the crap out of Eclipse, when dealing with C++. If you disagree, please clarify, because maybe I'm just missing something with Eclipse... but on my computer it feels slower than VS and doesn't feel as nice as VS for C++ programming.
(I have a free copy of VS so no real incentive to use Eclipse. But even back when all I had was the gimped express editions, I had difficulty finding a reason to use Eclipse).
I used Qt for a number of years for a former employer, but for UI work, I switched to FOX toolkit (www.fox-toolkit.org). In my opinion, the messaging system is **much** cleaner and more straightforward than Qt, and no more trouble dealing with moc. Might not feel quite as polished, but has a strong base of engineering and scientific users.
I bought a $300 laptop with Vista... there's no saying MS can't be (or already aren't, as has been documented) flexible with their OEM pricing scheme to accommodate lower priced hardware (or loss leaders for that matter)
Watch Microsoft over the next week. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft will be up over $30, $31+ over the next week or so, and Yahoo will be down for quite some time. How many months God only knows.
I see why you're for McCain, as you believe that all stockholders practice the bad habits which have led to the current economic conditions (cashing-out). Truth is, Yahoo is incredibly undervalued as demonstrated by the value of it's customer information, software solutions, etc. In addition, Yahoo rolled out new products after the initial bid, showing a growing company with a dynamic development, not a company needing Microsoft. Investors worth billions, such as Buffet, do not "cash out", they invest long-term. And as a long term investor, I saw the deal for what it was, a bad idea. A merged company would have bled staff, and customers would have fled, diminishing it's core value.
It TOOK the bid for Yahoo to roll out new products. That's an important distinction to make.
I'm not your typical investor, I'm in it for the long haul as well. I comment on what I see, and I forsee a lot of unhappy shareholders over the next few months who will lament the fact that Yahoo didn't take the offer. My parents didn't let me spend my birthday money as a kid, they invested it for me, so I've been investing since before I really understood the concept. I'm a long term investor myself. And I'm "for McCain" because I can't stand the ineptitude and social programming of either Obama or Clinton (I'm smart enough to pick my own health insurance, dammit), even though Clinton has this so-called "experience" she piggybacked off her husband, who looks more like a fool everyday. I wish the GOP had a stronger candidate but I'll take what I'm given. Ron Paul, sadly, couldn't clean up so McCain it is.
But back on subject, Yahoo was ridiculously overvalued, and now that the markets are open we see this is now the case. Yahoo down over 20%. Yes, they will rebound some but will they ever recover without some help from someone, be it Time Warner, Google or Microsoft? I doubt it.
Aaaaaand here's the proof: Yahoo down 20%, Microsoft up nearly 6%.
Microsoft had a multitude of options, they made the one that made the most business sense at the time. If shares of Yahoo continue to decline or can't get back up, who knows, the hostile takeover might start itself without Microsofts' help. Shareholders care more about money than about the companies they own.
Shareholders don't care. Shareholders cash out. Again, watch stock prices on Monday. MSFT will be up YHOO will be down, YHOO is overvalued as-is, and MSFT was offering a premium at that.
I'm an aerospace engineer, but write code 40-60% of my workday. Essentially between a FORTRAN/C++ compiler and Excel, those are my design tools. In the last 4 years (I'm relatively fresh out of college), I've used GOTO once. And you are right, it's a useful tool in very specific situations, in FORTRAN. However in C++ with object-oriented programming, I have yet to see a case, in the work I do anyways, where it would make something more concise.
You probably can't get one satellite in GEO to get a clean look at most of the interesting countries, therefore you'd need an array of satellites. Even a single satellite in GEO is probably more expensive. Even at that, cloud cover and rain will attenuate IR to some extent.
We could fly, say, UAV's over Tehran, but I doubt Iran would be a fan of that:)
I think the real key to this technology is, how far away can they measure? If the capacity can extend a few hundred miles in the future then it's possible to park this in a friendly country to monitor a hostile one.
Do something *tangible* EVERY DAY toward your goal. And tangible means not writing down some plan you won't follow anyway. Tangible means, say, writing a hundred lines of code (if you're a programmer), even if you're dog-ass tired. Make 20 cold calls to drum up business. Live as sparsely and cheaply as possible and sock away every penny toward your dream. This can't be emphasized enough: STOP TALKING AND START DOING. Be bold. Be brave.
Amen. Even if you don't know it's what you want to do today, start reading business books, become aware of the environment you work in, and live frugally. My dad didn't know he wanted to have his own business when I was young, but he did know he didn't want to do what he was doing the rest of his life. He kept educating himself (he was a college dropout-turned-farmer, the family business) and we lived very frugally growing up, my parents saved money instead of spending growing up. Just last year, my dad finally decided it was time and he started his own financial consulting firm. But without the learning a bit at a time and the self-sacrifice of investing that money for later instead of spending it now, he'd not be where he is today.
At first, I honestly thought it was a joke being played by a couple of people, ripping out all the good bits like nVidia drivers, etc. to make it a "nuisance" on people trying to get a working distro... but apparently I was wrong they are dead serious.
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Run an open week. I don't want to have to go out and purchase the game to "prove you wrong." I played the beta and was active in several forums, I was really hoping this was the game that could put my EverQuest addiction to rest. But sadly it was not. I still play EverQuest a few nights a week, and I'd like to move on but I haven't found a MMO that satisfies.
Vanguard made lots of promises but never really fulfilled them, and it's sad because on paper it really looked like a great game. Maybe they do now, but if you really want to prove it, have an open week where people can download the client and play for free, like an open beta. Yeah, there's a few logistical issues to work out but I'm sure Sony can take the load if prepared (I'm not being sarcastic...). If you want to bring us in, give us something to chew on. Everquest still gives out free month trials... the Trial of the Isle, which is essentially a month playing with the first three expansions on designated servers. The whole game, uncrippled. Something like that might help you prove your point.
I go back about 6 years, so does most of the core constituency. Sure, a lot of the edge players change, but the core of the guild is about the same as it ever was.
if it keeps the assholes around here from pissing everywhere but in the toilet/urnal
I can't help it, my wife was Loraina Bobbit!
We have guilds in EverQuest that are alive and strong, and clocking in at over 8 years old... And there are often guilds that outlive games, jumping from one game to the next.
Three quarters of that crap I don't want, and therefore I won't pay Apple a penny for. Thanks for pointing it out.
By comparison, no one would ever just randomly sudo a command for the hell of it.
You say that... apparently you don't know the same people I know. There is very little difference between sudo and UAC, and if you read the post above yours, there are times where UAC can be percieved as advantageous.
That's not the Conan I know and love.
Conan the Librarian: Don't you know the Dewey Decimal System?
Yeah, the local university is building a three-story parking structure right next to the gym so that "patrons of the gym don't have to walk so far" /boggle.
Myself, I bike to work, shower down at the gym (and don't use the gym for anything else)... but I probably consume more calories (and red meat) than the average obese person. When you are burning calories, you got to consume them.
The funny thing is, people keep whining about how low cost PC's will kill MS because of the delta for licenses... I have a $300 HP notebook, with a dual CD/DVD writer (with LightScribe no less), and Vista Home. It's not gonna touch MS. Prices drop, more computers are sold, so they maybe drop the OEM license a bit but they make up for it in volume, the WalMart method.
but the copier would record all copies to flash memory
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... whippersnappers! get off my lawn!
Flash memory... cold war? Surely you must be joking
They used a camera with a roll of film, which they then had to develop
There is a difference between a lie and not knowing something which is not immediately obvious.
:P; the only thing I can blame right now is the gcc compiler which is why I'm starting to play with the Intel compiler under Linux and Windows. Then everything should be apples to apples, except the operating system.
Five minutes of googling reveal every point above. I'm sure none of the above were immediately obvious in Eclipse but you sought them out. To be fair you should do the same in both products, because you did not, you do not have a fair perspective.
I think it depends on the libraries used to a large extent. The test we did was a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo machine running GCC on Linux under Eclipse vs. a 3Ghz Core 2 Duo machine running Visual Studio 2005 Professional on Windows XP. Both were making clean debug builds of the same project (the start of a now much larger project) with the same major library versions. The Linux machine came in at 0:18 and the Windows machine came in at 1:16. I expected the Linux machine to come in last by far, but was pleasantly surprised.
I just use the standard STL implementations provided by each vendor (msvc, gcc, intel). My code is math intensive (CFD) but will suck down as many clock cycles as you throw at it, and typically runs faster under Windows for some reason. I do some aggressive optimizations on both platforms. But I get the same results on both platforms with zero optimizations. Same computer dual booting Windows x64 and RHEL.
The other funny thing is, I have access to a cluster, with some nice Itanium processors. I compile my code using gcc4.3.0, optimized and all, and run it on 4 processors. It runs at roughly the same speed as my home computer running on Visual Studio 2008 Express Edition, with profile-guided optimization only, and it's just a dual core AMD 4200 x64. It makes no sense to me because (a) the itanium processors are nicer, (b) I would expect Linux to have less overhead, (c) I haven't reformatted the Windows computer in 2 years, my wife uses it daily as her machine and God knows whats on it
OK, half of your complaints are key mappings. If you want to truly exploit the software, learn VS's key mappings.
/MP compiler option. I have, with 2005 express edition.
* SVN integration right in the project view with Subversive. ...
* Multi-CPU compiling of the same project. Visual C++ charges (at least before 2008 came out, perhaps they dropped it - I doubt it) $2,500 for the luxury with the professional edition or above, and I'm not willing to drop $2,500 on -any- software just so it doesn't refuse to do something so basic.
Lies, lies and more lies. You can compile across multiple processors in the same project with VS 2005 express edition. Use the
If you go to thesubversion website, you'd see no less than three integration options with Microsoft Visual studio.
* Compiler speed. GCC is much faster than Visual C++ 2005 Professional on the project I am working on.
Funny, because I've had the opposite experience (heavy number-crunching codes) on identical hardware, and I've tried to have rational conversations with people to figure it out (because not only is the compiler faster, but the resulting code seems faster on Windows as well for the same number of cores, but the clusters I compute on are Linux), so I can't figure out if it's a gcc issue or if I am just dumb. Mostly playing with the Intel compilers right now to get a third opinion.
more varied OS/software environment would lessen the damage
Only if we don't unify our code, which probably won't happen because people will want to target broad user bases. When code can be compiled on a Windows machine to target a Linux machine, you still have problems.
I think s/he meant using a ruler to read across the table without losing your line. Although most slide rules could serve this purpose as well. I still use a ruler to read across old technical documents that are typeset very small on unruled paper ...
Visual Studio 2008 beats the crap out of Eclipse, when dealing with C++. If you disagree, please clarify, because maybe I'm just missing something with Eclipse... but on my computer it feels slower than VS and doesn't feel as nice as VS for C++ programming.
(I have a free copy of VS so no real incentive to use Eclipse. But even back when all I had was the gimped express editions, I had difficulty finding a reason to use Eclipse).
I used Qt for a number of years for a former employer, but for UI work, I switched to FOX toolkit (www.fox-toolkit.org). In my opinion, the messaging system is **much** cleaner and more straightforward than Qt, and no more trouble dealing with moc. Might not feel quite as polished, but has a strong base of engineering and scientific users.
I bought a $300 laptop with Vista... there's no saying MS can't be (or already aren't, as has been documented) flexible with their OEM pricing scheme to accommodate lower priced hardware (or loss leaders for that matter)
Watch Microsoft over the next week. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft will be up over $30, $31+ over the next week or so, and Yahoo will be down for quite some time. How many months God only knows.
Give the market a few days to settle things out.
I see why you're for McCain, as you believe that all stockholders practice the bad habits which have led to the current economic conditions (cashing-out). Truth is, Yahoo is incredibly undervalued as demonstrated by the value of it's customer information, software solutions, etc. In addition, Yahoo rolled out new products after the initial bid, showing a growing company with a dynamic development, not a company needing Microsoft. Investors worth billions, such as Buffet, do not "cash out", they invest long-term. And as a long term investor, I saw the deal for what it was, a bad idea. A merged company would have bled staff, and customers would have fled, diminishing it's core value.
It TOOK the bid for Yahoo to roll out new products. That's an important distinction to make.
I'm not your typical investor, I'm in it for the long haul as well. I comment on what I see, and I forsee a lot of unhappy shareholders over the next few months who will lament the fact that Yahoo didn't take the offer. My parents didn't let me spend my birthday money as a kid, they invested it for me, so I've been investing since before I really understood the concept. I'm a long term investor myself. And I'm "for McCain" because I can't stand the ineptitude and social programming of either Obama or Clinton (I'm smart enough to pick my own health insurance, dammit), even though Clinton has this so-called "experience" she piggybacked off her husband, who looks more like a fool everyday. I wish the GOP had a stronger candidate but I'll take what I'm given. Ron Paul, sadly, couldn't clean up so McCain it is.
But back on subject, Yahoo was ridiculously overvalued, and now that the markets are open we see this is now the case. Yahoo down over 20%. Yes, they will rebound some but will they ever recover without some help from someone, be it Time Warner, Google or Microsoft? I doubt it.
Aaaaaand here's the proof: Yahoo down 20%, Microsoft up nearly 6%.
Microsoft had a multitude of options, they made the one that made the most business sense at the time. If shares of Yahoo continue to decline or can't get back up, who knows, the hostile takeover might start itself without Microsofts' help. Shareholders care more about money than about the companies they own.
Shareholders don't care. Shareholders cash out. Again, watch stock prices on Monday. MSFT will be up YHOO will be down, YHOO is overvalued as-is, and MSFT was offering a premium at that.
I'm an aerospace engineer, but write code 40-60% of my workday. Essentially between a FORTRAN/C++ compiler and Excel, those are my design tools. In the last 4 years (I'm relatively fresh out of college), I've used GOTO once. And you are right, it's a useful tool in very specific situations, in FORTRAN. However in C++ with object-oriented programming, I have yet to see a case, in the work I do anyways, where it would make something more concise.
You probably can't get one satellite in GEO to get a clean look at most of the interesting countries, therefore you'd need an array of satellites. Even a single satellite in GEO is probably more expensive. Even at that, cloud cover and rain will attenuate IR to some extent.
:)
We could fly, say, UAV's over Tehran, but I doubt Iran would be a fan of that
I think the real key to this technology is, how far away can they measure? If the capacity can extend a few hundred miles in the future then it's possible to park this in a friendly country to monitor a hostile one.
Do something *tangible* EVERY DAY toward your goal. And tangible means not writing down some plan you won't follow anyway. Tangible means, say, writing a hundred lines of code (if you're a programmer), even if you're dog-ass tired. Make 20 cold calls to drum up business. Live as sparsely and cheaply as possible and sock away every penny toward your dream. This can't be emphasized enough: STOP TALKING AND START DOING. Be bold. Be brave.
Amen. Even if you don't know it's what you want to do today, start reading business books, become aware of the environment you work in, and live frugally. My dad didn't know he wanted to have his own business when I was young, but he did know he didn't want to do what he was doing the rest of his life. He kept educating himself (he was a college dropout-turned-farmer, the family business) and we lived very frugally growing up, my parents saved money instead of spending growing up. Just last year, my dad finally decided it was time and he started his own financial consulting firm. But without the learning a bit at a time and the self-sacrifice of investing that money for later instead of spending it now, he'd not be where he is today.
At first, I honestly thought it was a joke being played by a couple of people, ripping out all the good bits like nVidia drivers, etc. to make it a "nuisance" on people trying to get a working distro ... but apparently I was wrong they are dead serious.