No, I enjoy squashing them. As if a genius can have a "peer". True genius has no equal, and quite simply cannot have peers. In other words, true geniuses don't need to be around other people to convince themselves that they are "smart": they KNOW that they are smart.
Not sure what qualifies you as a genious. Anyways your approach of "squashing" will not get you far in the real world. Most geniouses will acknowlege they were not the first, nor the last. Perhaps you are familiar with the phrase "standing on the shoulders of giants"?
that's true. My sources are old - it had a much better backing for HD-DVD with regards to media producers. I really don't give a flying monkey, I don't buy into tech until it hits mainstream. But people do tend to remember history, and shaving production costs in an industry where production is king is meaningful
Yeah, I meant "as". Sony backed blueray. Sony backed Betamax. History repeats itself.
(plus the manufacturing costs for HD-DVD are less, the manufacturing time is shorter, and it seems that more recording studios - the real manufacturers of media - seem to support HD-DVD. At least last I checked.)
My point with respect to logs is that if they truly respected user privacy, they wouldn't keep them. Again, what's the motivation? Make my pocketbook fatter.
My point with respect to the ticker is that if they truly respected user privacy, they wouldnt ticker current searches at their headquarters. I'm sure they are run through a filter (of course) but still... that's not respecting privacy.
I suppose we'll refrain from putting Google up for sainthood. Google is also not the demon some of its critics would like to make them seem.
But the problem is, they put themselves on a pedistal. MSN and Yahoo do not claim to "do no evil". Google does. Therefore they automatically hold themselves to a higher level of moral responsibility. I'm not sure that they are any better than MSN or Yahoo in that regard. MSN complied with the chinese. Yahoo has too. So they are on the same plane. With regard to the current issue there is sufficient evidence to show (look up some articles - go ahead, use Google News) that Google has reasons beyond the user to defy the subpoena. To make money. They don't care about the user. Its all about the dollars and cents.
To put it more plainly - the difference is that China and the US ARE, in fact, different. And the events themselves were different.
Of course. I see that. But the motivations were the same. I'll do what makes my pocketbook fatter.
Or you have students who are going to be trapped and exploited by politics and religion when they leave, because they were exposed to a politics-free world.
Most of the people I know - myself included - had lives outside of school deeply influenced by politics and religion. That is where I derive my beliefs from. Not to mention I had my mind made up going into college - I carried my Republican card with pride. I pay money to go to school so I can learn, not so I can hear the beliefs of some random person I could really care less about. I respect his or her knowlege in the subject I want to learn, but I can care less about his or her politics, if they bring it up they are just wasting my time that I am paying them for.
New 40 man/20 man raid. Took a shitload of work to unlock, IE collecting 800,000 runecloth bandages and a ton of cooked raptor meat, etc... world quest, etc. I'm with ya though, I played for 2 months after the game was released and went back to EQ for awhile, EQ was a lot more fulfilling.
Standing up for ideals with the Chinese Government would mean not operating in China. Standing up for ideals with the US Government did not mean no longer operating in the US.
Ah, but I thought our company motto was "Do No Evil", not "Do No Evil So Long As It Doesnt Affect Our Pocketbook"... the fact of the matter is we should be concerned that Google has logs going back that far - industry practice doesn't make it right, for a company that considers itself to be morally superior - and a company that has a ticker in its corporate headquarters showing what people are currently searching for online. Use Google if you want, but they are far from the angel of justice people portray them to be.
Indeed, countries like China and India will be where the 21st century will take place.
You are basing this idea off of the fact that Ebay is not charing transaction fees? Come on man, you are a known troll but you have to try harder than that...
I don't see China/India becoming a power in my lifetime. Or my childrens. Or their childrens. They have people. They don't have much more than that. PhD's per capita? No. Resources? Not really... middle east and Russia, and neither of them are getting anywhere quick. It takes more than people to make a country a success; and as another poster already mentioned as these countries become successful the lower and middle classes will demand the comforts that Americans and Europeans currently afford... their governments cannot provide these... without a careful balance they cannot succeed.
On a more positive note, my colleagues and I support Google 100% in its attempt to defy the Department of Justice. Despite Google's supporting Beijing in its attempt to suppress human rights and democracy, the company has taken a courageous stand in supporting human rights in the USA. Google was the last place where I would expect to find a champion of privacy rights.
Repeat after me: Google Doesnt Give a Fuck. You said it yourself. They didn't make a stand in Beijing. Why do you think they made a stand here? NOT for the privacy of their users! They obviously don't care about user privacy, or they would stand up for ALL of their users. They are doing whatever is (1) cheapest (2) best for stock prices (3) drives up market share. They decided this stance was the best idea to accomplish this end.
They used those three ideals in Beijing, and they used those three ideals here. Its easy to see if you throw your personal biases aside.
Why not? Politics have shaped math and science greatly. It is not very responsible of them to give you an incomplete education.
There is a difference between explaining Gallileo's problems with the Catholic church and a math professor going on a rant over his issues with the current local/state/federal government. And what you state is only a partial truth: politics do NOT effect derivations. They may effect the speed at which research is performed but they do not effect the relaying of information in undergraduate curriculum.
I see money freely given to people who have no right to be in college.
*shrug* where I went to school, unless you were not caucasian (ie: if you were a minority you got a minority scholarship) school scholarships were based pretty squarely on ACT/GPA scores. Few minor exceptions, living trusts and such for certain students of certain criteria and "financial status" loans.
I don't believe that education at most ABET-accredited colleges is better than in the past. I interview graduates constantly and I'm not sure what kids are learning.
Well as an aero... that, 2 engineering electives and humanities/social sciences. Honestly I believe - and interviews have confirmed this belief - employers I have talked with want moldable employees with good general backgrounds. Especially in fields like mechanical and aerospace engineering. Theres so many ways to take it, you can't possibly cover all the ins and outs in 4 years. So you get 1-2 semesters of background material and derivations in a bunch of different subjects, half of which you will never touch again. Right now I do missile modeling and simulation in C++. I took one C++ class in college - actually I didn't, I tested out of it the first week of classes. What courses do I use in my day-to-day work? Physics, statics and dynamics. Touch on Aerodynamics from time to time. The rest of it was a wash. Might I use it someday? Sure. I'm glad I did learn it. But that's the point, I have a good base to work off of if I want to jump ship and say, start working in the alt.space community or build bridges or something. I'm a lump of clay that can be re-molded and re-defined.
How else can you explain college costs going up, but graduate aptitude going down?
I don't know. Tuition hasn't gone up that much since I've started school (6 years now); it has kept pace with inflation. I don't really pay attention to other people, I just work hard myself:) I'm still in grad school.
Where I went to school (University of Alabama in Huntsville) in the math/engineering department is was against the rules for a professor to discuss politics or morality. It has no place in rational discussion. End of story. Whatever happened on the other end of campus (liberal arts) I dont know.
Its not a matter of "students being able to recognize bias" or "making you think harder", it has no place in the study of math or science. And even in the lib arts department, I don't really give a fuck what my professor thinks. His thoughts are no more richeous than my own. I'm old enough to have my own biases, just teach me the material so I can pass.
In order to qualify for federal funds, colleges must meet federal mandates for levels of education.
And in order to stay accredited in the field of engineering, a school must hold itself accountable to ABET whose standards are not lacking. Without accreditation at the time of graduation the piece of paper stating that I am a mechanical/aerospace engineer is worthless. Hence despite the fact that anyone with a 20-something ACT can get into the school I graduated from, not just anyone can graduate from its engineering program. And those who excel are further rewarded with scholarships and reserarch assistanceships based on academic performance.
Sorry. Not a big fan of divulging personal information on the public forum:)
But to cite some references, here are some (inbound) call centers in the midwest:
Company I used to work for went from a local ISP consisting of 4 guys in a basement (I was guy #4 at the time, 15 years old, my mom drove me to work) to outsourcing technical support for over 100,000 in addition to its own client base in three years. There are true midwest tech success stories; I know of others; they just don't get trumpeted on/. or the New York Times. That's just the one I was a part of.
Yeah, when I drive up north to visit friends (if I'm driving via Chicago) I generally stop in at Mars cheese Castle to stock up on the good stuff. The South just doesn't know how to make cheese. Otherwise prettymuch any Wisconsin cheese shop is decent...
In high school I worked for a local ISP that became the states second-largest. They were, and are, very successful. They now offer wireless to most of the southeastern part of this state.
Yes, this state is in the midwest. It is not impossible to be successful in a tech business in the midwest. There are a lot of success stories you don't hear about. One area that has a lot of potential and success stories is call centers. People from the midwest have a very neutral accent and make good people to talk to on the phone - and have a far lower cost of living than many other areas of the country (exclusing possibly the south - not a shot at the south, its where I'm living now).
Why do they need to really log what you are doing?
Because Google is a company. Companies like to make money. Search results are gold to Google. I agree if Google were the perfect virgin company we all would believe they are, they shouldn't keep records - adsense should work on the fly, no profiling. Fact is profiling works, and they make a killing off of it. I believe they aren't bowing to the DOJ to hide the extent of their profiling and because they are afraid of revealing (somehow) trade secrets - which they partially saidin their subpoena reply. Of course, being/., everyone just said "google is good! they loves teh me!" and thought they were just defending the user...
My point was: you can change Windows so the popups don't steal focus. It may not be as "easy" as Mac (although downloading PowerTools is far from difficult). But of course you skirted the issue and focused on the second issue and went into a "mac tirade". Typical mac user, regardles of whether you can use emacs (you must be so proud... I mean the damn program has a user base of how many people? vi is better...)
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In my business
what business?
Lots of good software in a lot of fields, like engineering (the one I can cite examples off the top of my head), has no mac replacement.
No, I enjoy squashing them. As if a genius can have a "peer". True genius has no equal, and quite simply cannot have peers. In other words, true geniuses don't need to be around other people to convince themselves that they are "smart": they KNOW that they are smart.
Not sure what qualifies you as a genious. Anyways your approach of "squashing" will not get you far in the real world. Most geniouses will acknowlege they were not the first, nor the last. Perhaps you are familiar with the phrase "standing on the shoulders of giants"?
that's true. My sources are old - it had a much better backing for HD-DVD with regards to media producers. I really don't give a flying monkey, I don't buy into tech until it hits mainstream. But people do tend to remember history, and shaving production costs in an industry where production is king is meaningful
Yeah, I meant "as". Sony backed blueray. Sony backed Betamax. History repeats itself.
(plus the manufacturing costs for HD-DVD are less, the manufacturing time is shorter, and it seems that more recording studios - the real manufacturers of media - seem to support HD-DVD. At least last I checked.)
Treo, the new ones are based off of Windows Mobile and are pretty slick. Verizon has been pushing them:
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/353/C5864/
blueray is to betamax and HD-DVD is to VHS
My point with respect to logs is that if they truly respected user privacy, they wouldn't keep them. Again, what's the motivation? Make my pocketbook fatter.
My point with respect to the ticker is that if they truly respected user privacy, they wouldnt ticker current searches at their headquarters. I'm sure they are run through a filter (of course) but still... that's not respecting privacy.
I suppose we'll refrain from putting Google up for sainthood. Google is also not the demon some of its critics would like to make them seem.
But the problem is, they put themselves on a pedistal. MSN and Yahoo do not claim to "do no evil". Google does. Therefore they automatically hold themselves to a higher level of moral responsibility. I'm not sure that they are any better than MSN or Yahoo in that regard. MSN complied with the chinese. Yahoo has too. So they are on the same plane. With regard to the current issue there is sufficient evidence to show (look up some articles - go ahead, use Google News) that Google has reasons beyond the user to defy the subpoena. To make money. They don't care about the user. Its all about the dollars and cents.
To put it more plainly - the difference is that China and the US ARE, in fact, different. And the events themselves were different.
Of course. I see that. But the motivations were the same. I'll do what makes my pocketbook fatter.
Or you have students who are going to be trapped and exploited by politics and religion when they leave, because they were exposed to a politics-free world.
Most of the people I know - myself included - had lives outside of school deeply influenced by politics and religion. That is where I derive my beliefs from. Not to mention I had my mind made up going into college - I carried my Republican card with pride. I pay money to go to school so I can learn, not so I can hear the beliefs of some random person I could really care less about. I respect his or her knowlege in the subject I want to learn, but I can care less about his or her politics, if they bring it up they are just wasting my time that I am paying them for.
New 40 man/20 man raid. Took a shitload of work to unlock, IE collecting 800,000 runecloth bandages and a ton of cooked raptor meat, etc... world quest, etc. I'm with ya though, I played for 2 months after the game was released and went back to EQ for awhile, EQ was a lot more fulfilling.
Diversification
Standing up for ideals with the Chinese Government would mean not operating in China. Standing up for ideals with the US Government did not mean no longer operating in the US.
... the fact of the matter is we should be concerned that Google has logs going back that far - industry practice doesn't make it right, for a company that considers itself to be morally superior - and a company that has a ticker in its corporate headquarters showing what people are currently searching for online. Use Google if you want, but they are far from the angel of justice people portray them to be.
Ah, but I thought our company motto was "Do No Evil", not "Do No Evil So Long As It Doesnt Affect Our Pocketbook"
Indeed, countries like China and India will be where the 21st century will take place.
You are basing this idea off of the fact that Ebay is not charing transaction fees? Come on man, you are a known troll but you have to try harder than that...
I don't see China/India becoming a power in my lifetime. Or my childrens. Or their childrens. They have people. They don't have much more than that. PhD's per capita? No. Resources? Not really... middle east and Russia, and neither of them are getting anywhere quick. It takes more than people to make a country a success; and as another poster already mentioned as these countries become successful the lower and middle classes will demand the comforts that Americans and Europeans currently afford... their governments cannot provide these... without a careful balance they cannot succeed.
On a more positive note, my colleagues and I support Google 100% in its attempt to defy the Department of Justice. Despite Google's supporting Beijing in its attempt to suppress human rights and democracy, the company has taken a courageous stand in supporting human rights in the USA. Google was the last place where I would expect to find a champion of privacy rights.
Repeat after me: Google Doesnt Give a Fuck. You said it yourself. They didn't make a stand in Beijing. Why do you think they made a stand here? NOT for the privacy of their users! They obviously don't care about user privacy, or they would stand up for ALL of their users. They are doing whatever is (1) cheapest (2) best for stock prices (3) drives up market share. They decided this stance was the best idea to accomplish this end.
They used those three ideals in Beijing, and they used those three ideals here. Its easy to see if you throw your personal biases aside.
Why not? Politics have shaped math and science greatly. It is not very responsible of them to give you an incomplete education.
There is a difference between explaining Gallileo's problems with the Catholic church and a math professor going on a rant over his issues with the current local/state/federal government. And what you state is only a partial truth: politics do NOT effect derivations. They may effect the speed at which research is performed but they do not effect the relaying of information in undergraduate curriculum.
I see money freely given to people who have no right to be in college.
:) I'm still in grad school.
*shrug* where I went to school, unless you were not caucasian (ie: if you were a minority you got a minority scholarship) school scholarships were based pretty squarely on ACT/GPA scores. Few minor exceptions, living trusts and such for certain students of certain criteria and "financial status" loans.
I don't believe that education at most ABET-accredited colleges is better than in the past. I interview graduates constantly and I'm not sure what kids are learning.
Well as an aero... that, 2 engineering electives and humanities/social sciences. Honestly I believe - and interviews have confirmed this belief - employers I have talked with want moldable employees with good general backgrounds. Especially in fields like mechanical and aerospace engineering. Theres so many ways to take it, you can't possibly cover all the ins and outs in 4 years. So you get 1-2 semesters of background material and derivations in a bunch of different subjects, half of which you will never touch again. Right now I do missile modeling and simulation in C++. I took one C++ class in college - actually I didn't, I tested out of it the first week of classes. What courses do I use in my day-to-day work? Physics, statics and dynamics. Touch on Aerodynamics from time to time. The rest of it was a wash. Might I use it someday? Sure. I'm glad I did learn it. But that's the point, I have a good base to work off of if I want to jump ship and say, start working in the alt.space community or build bridges or something. I'm a lump of clay that can be re-molded and re-defined. How else can you explain college costs going up, but graduate aptitude going down?
I don't know. Tuition hasn't gone up that much since I've started school (6 years now); it has kept pace with inflation. I don't really pay attention to other people, I just work hard myself
Where I went to school (University of Alabama in Huntsville) in the math/engineering department is was against the rules for a professor to discuss politics or morality. It has no place in rational discussion. End of story. Whatever happened on the other end of campus (liberal arts) I dont know.
Its not a matter of "students being able to recognize bias" or "making you think harder", it has no place in the study of math or science. And even in the lib arts department, I don't really give a fuck what my professor thinks. His thoughts are no more richeous than my own. I'm old enough to have my own biases, just teach me the material so I can pass.
In order to qualify for federal funds, colleges must meet federal mandates for levels of education.
And in order to stay accredited in the field of engineering, a school must hold itself accountable to ABET whose standards are not lacking. Without accreditation at the time of graduation the piece of paper stating that I am a mechanical/aerospace engineer is worthless. Hence despite the fact that anyone with a 20-something ACT can get into the school I graduated from, not just anyone can graduate from its engineering program. And those who excel are further rewarded with scholarships and reserarch assistanceships based on academic performance.
I think tenure applies more to arts and humanities faculty than to science and engineering faculty. I think.
Engineers do get tenure.
malformed url tag, here you go: http://www.teleplaza.com/Telemarketing/Inbound/1_m w.html
Sorry. Not a big fan of divulging personal information on the public forum :)
/. or the New York Times. That's just the one I was a part of.
But to cite some references, here are some (inbound) call centers in the midwest:
Company I used to work for went from a local ISP consisting of 4 guys in a basement (I was guy #4 at the time, 15 years old, my mom drove me to work) to outsourcing technical support for over 100,000 in addition to its own client base in three years. There are true midwest tech success stories; I know of others; they just don't get trumpeted on
Yeah, when I drive up north to visit friends (if I'm driving via Chicago) I generally stop in at Mars cheese Castle to stock up on the good stuff. The South just doesn't know how to make cheese. Otherwise prettymuch any Wisconsin cheese shop is decent...
Wisconsin
In high school I worked for a local ISP that became the states second-largest. They were, and are, very successful. They now offer wireless to most of the southeastern part of this state.
Yes, this state is in the midwest. It is not impossible to be successful in a tech business in the midwest. There are a lot of success stories you don't hear about. One area that has a lot of potential and success stories is call centers. People from the midwest have a very neutral accent and make good people to talk to on the phone - and have a far lower cost of living than many other areas of the country (exclusing possibly the south - not a shot at the south, its where I'm living now).
-everphilski-
Why do they need to really log what you are doing?
/., everyone just said "google is good! they loves teh me!" and thought they were just defending the user...
Because Google is a company. Companies like to make money. Search results are gold to Google. I agree if Google were the perfect virgin company we all would believe they are, they shouldn't keep records - adsense should work on the fly, no profiling. Fact is profiling works, and they make a killing off of it. I believe they aren't bowing to the DOJ to hide the extent of their profiling and because they are afraid of revealing (somehow) trade secrets - which they partially saidin their subpoena reply. Of course, being
My point was: you can change Windows so the popups don't steal focus. It may not be as "easy" as Mac (although downloading PowerTools is far from difficult). But of course you skirted the issue and focused on the second issue and went into a "mac tirade". Typical mac user, regardles of whether you can use emacs (you must be so proud... I mean the damn program has a user base of how many people? vi is better...)