I fully understand that each venue is unique but to come into something like this - and have that many professionals unable to do their jobs, should be considered unacceptable especially for this group of people.
The only real way to avoid this problem is in planning, I understand you plan on the convention center, but you should also plan on the logging. (i made the assumption in my first comment that the conference was being held at at the same place as logging (30+ floor hotels normally can handle conferences of that size)
In the future you should plan ahead for this, not so much in bringing your own hardware (only if you have to) but rather ensure that the venue you select can actually support what you are doing, in this case it couldn't.
Everyone seems to love fixing on the fly, firefighting is glorious, but in reality planners are the people that make things happen. and we are only reading about this because of the failure of planning.
Suggestion to the Hotel... Instead of relying on a bunch of guys with flashy badges talking endlessly about how smart they are, why not just hire a network consulting firm to do a generic network topography and build out the network correctly? The stuff is not rocket science...
That is what they did.. but as we all know.. while it's not rocket science.. there are a lot of "network consulting firm"s that can't do it.
and while some of it was guessing - remember that this isn't "their" network.. and they had no working set to start with and no idea where some of these AP's where.. and again.. it wasn't their job or reason for being there.
in hind site they might want to think about going the way of defcon and bring in their own network to their next get together.
well the beauty of using one of these engines on a car would be that you wouldn't have to worry about if the tires could handle the torque to transfer the energy into motion.. this thing just pushes you, so your limit on tires is going to be the overall weight of the car and the speed rating as they only have to roll and carry a load..
but something tells me that this sucker is going to be heavier and going to push you faster than "consumer-grade" tires can do as most tires have a 2k lbs and 110mph limit..
asking if you are over or under a specific set of ages is equivalent to asking the age.
Age is something you can ask, but not something you can use to make a decision between two people unless there is a law prevents someone from doing the job.
Asking things like race, religion, sexual preference serve no other purpose and there for are flat out not allowed (except when they are by jobs requiring an invasive background check, aka requires a government clearance - but then they can't use the answers to prevent you from the job, only if you do or do not get the clearance, ignoring the fact that the clearance might not be granted do to one of the answers).
Yeah, no. It is in fact completely illegal for a potential employer to ask your... citizenship...
I call BS, there are PLENTY of jobs that require you to be a US Citizen to apply for, and not just Government jobs.. and you can ask that question. In-fact to hire a foreign national and get them here on a long term work visa you have to show you have been unable to find a qualified US Citizen to fill the job.
as for the rest.. yea.. that's a no no.. except the Age in specific instance, like a running a register at a store or working in a restaurant as you ahve to be 18 to serve alcohol or to sell tobacco or to be the attendant at a gas station, also you have to be over 16 to work past certain hours or to put in more than X hours. Basically you can ask Age only if the job has an legal age requirement to preform the functions the job requires.
School system here in NC tried doing it.. they didn't make it a condition of employments but rather sent out notice of guidelines on who teachers could and could not have contact with and requested their info so they could verify.. nothing really happened with it that i know of as my wife doesn't use facebook.
somebody else is betting that the price will fall, by selling a futures contract.
Not true.. there are plenty of reasons for someone to sell a futures contract aside form betting the price will fall. For the large oil companies it comes down to sell it now and i max X dollars above what i expect to spend, and i also have cash to pay for my current day-to-day activities.
they sell the future for a loan of cash today that they bet they can use to grow and make even more when that future is due...
aka i have a plant that makes 100$ of product a year.. this year i will make 100$ and next year i will make 100$.. if i sell you next years now i could use the money to build a new line and make 120$ a year.. so i sell you next years for 90$
Year one = 100$ product + 90$ future = 190$ Year two = 120$ product - 100$ Worth Owed = 20$ Total = 210$ where i would have only made 200$ if i hadn't sold the future to invest today.. that's 5% growth.. and it works as long as there is demand for the product.
when you start doing that for ALL of the product.. then the people buying the futures.. are the only would who can supply demand.. the oil companies can't supply demand as what they are producing belongs to the speculators.. only what they produce 2-3 years from now actually belongs to them to sell on the open market.
well if uncle sam didn't cut the check.. then easier than playing seven ways to bacon i'm sure we can find a check from uncle sam to the company that cut the check for the standard..
and the millions of people who buy helmets that might want to check that the helmet being bought meets standards/law.. because they don't exactly take the manufacturer at their word..
yea that makes sense.. spend 100$ for a piece of paper that is the law the government would require you to follow for evaluating a 20$ item.
thank you - my god i don't know how i missed that.. I've been dealing with the new version for so long.. it just isn't something i go into a lot, but when i go into i really need it.. and to be able to walk the documentation like the classic style lets you, that is real value to me..
i'd agree with you for the old msdn.. but the latest generation annoys me.. while all the same information is there, they lack the old tree based view so you can find other related items with ease.. right now you can find documentation for what you want but it is no longer useful for finding something you want to use but don't know if it exists/what it is called exactly.
do you know how much of a pain they are to catch when they make it in to your data center?? especially now that most are getting rid of their Sun boxes, they just wander and hide in the closest glowing box, which are everywhere..
See i'm most surprised that being a position of the president is commander-in-chief that the pentagon isn't in charge of the White House computers and systems.
these are not things that should be changing with each administration.
luckily the XKCD doesn't apply.. as this isn't a research announcement.. they are actually selling the manufacturing equipment. though i do agree it will take a few years before we see any major change in prices (even if it can do what it says).. also note that it doesn't have to be "developed to a useful state" as it is a replacement for a step existing manufacturing processes, which means it is far more likely to be useful.
not even that - they aren't going to make wafers - they are building and selling the equipment to make the wafers.. so this is like the company that sold the laths to make handles to the company that made the pickaxes to sell to gold prospectors.
normally i'd look at something like this and say "someone will buy and bury it" except it has more than one industry.. while it has the potential to drop solar panel costs.. it also has the potential to drop semiconductor fab costs.. so if someone wants to buy and bury it.. you will have oil vs. chip/tech.. going to be a hard fight.. so if this thing actually works and does as it says it does.. give it a few years and we might actually see the prices dropping considerably on solar panels..
right now the pay off for complete solar is 30-35 years where i live.. if that gets into the 10-12 year.. i'll be game to switch.
you didn't ask what they "should" do.. but rather what they "could" do.. and given track records.. just because they shouldn't doesn't mean they won't.
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I fully understand that each venue is unique but to come into something like this - and have that many professionals unable to do their jobs, should be considered unacceptable especially for this group of people.
The only real way to avoid this problem is in planning, I understand you plan on the convention center, but you should also plan on the logging. (i made the assumption in my first comment that the conference was being held at at the same place as logging (30+ floor hotels normally can handle conferences of that size)
In the future you should plan ahead for this, not so much in bringing your own hardware (only if you have to) but rather ensure that the venue you select can actually support what you are doing, in this case it couldn't.
Everyone seems to love fixing on the fly, firefighting is glorious, but in reality planners are the people that make things happen. and we are only reading about this because of the failure of planning.
Suggestion to the Hotel... Instead of relying on a bunch of guys with flashy badges talking endlessly about how smart they are, why not just hire a network consulting firm to do a generic network topography and build out the network correctly? The stuff is not rocket science...
That is what they did.. but as we all know.. while it's not rocket science.. there are a lot of "network consulting firm"s that can't do it.
and while some of it was guessing - remember that this isn't "their" network.. and they had no working set to start with and no idea where some of these AP's where.. and again.. it wasn't their job or reason for being there.
in hind site they might want to think about going the way of defcon and bring in their own network to their next get together.
well the beauty of using one of these engines on a car would be that you wouldn't have to worry about if the tires could handle the torque to transfer the energy into motion.. this thing just pushes you, so your limit on tires is going to be the overall weight of the car and the speed rating as they only have to roll and carry a load..
but something tells me that this sucker is going to be heavier and going to push you faster than "consumer-grade" tires can do as most tires have a 2k lbs and 110mph limit..
I agree you can't ask religion and a slew of other things - but my BS call was on nationality/citizenship
asking if you are over or under a specific set of ages is equivalent to asking the age.
Age is something you can ask, but not something you can use to make a decision between two people unless there is a law prevents someone from doing the job.
Asking things like race, religion, sexual preference serve no other purpose and there for are flat out not allowed (except when they are by jobs requiring an invasive background check, aka requires a government clearance - but then they can't use the answers to prevent you from the job, only if you do or do not get the clearance, ignoring the fact that the clearance might not be granted do to one of the answers).
Yeah, no. It is in fact completely illegal for a potential employer to ask your ... citizenship ...
I call BS, there are PLENTY of jobs that require you to be a US Citizen to apply for, and not just Government jobs.. and you can ask that question. In-fact to hire a foreign national and get them here on a long term work visa you have to show you have been unable to find a qualified US Citizen to fill the job.
as for the rest.. yea.. that's a no no.. except the Age in specific instance, like a running a register at a store or working in a restaurant as you ahve to be 18 to serve alcohol or to sell tobacco or to be the attendant at a gas station, also you have to be over 16 to work past certain hours or to put in more than X hours. Basically you can ask Age only if the job has an legal age requirement to preform the functions the job requires.
School system here in NC tried doing it.. they didn't make it a condition of employments but rather sent out notice of guidelines on who teachers could and could not have contact with and requested their info so they could verify.. nothing really happened with it that i know of as my wife doesn't use facebook.
somebody else is betting that the price will fall, by selling a futures contract.
Not true.. there are plenty of reasons for someone to sell a futures contract aside form betting the price will fall. For the large oil companies it comes down to sell it now and i max X dollars above what i expect to spend, and i also have cash to pay for my current day-to-day activities.
they sell the future for a loan of cash today that they bet they can use to grow and make even more when that future is due...
aka i have a plant that makes 100$ of product a year.. this year i will make 100$ and next year i will make 100$.. if i sell you next years now i could use the money to build a new line and make 120$ a year.. so i sell you next years for 90$
Year one = 100$ product + 90$ future = 190$
Year two = 120$ product - 100$ Worth Owed = 20$
Total = 210$ where i would have only made 200$ if i hadn't sold the future to invest today.. that's 5% growth.. and it works as long as there is demand for the product.
when you start doing that for ALL of the product.. then the people buying the futures.. are the only would who can supply demand.. the oil companies can't supply demand as what they are producing belongs to the speculators.. only what they produce 2-3 years from now actually belongs to them to sell on the open market.
you have
SIM
micro-SIM
and the new nano-SIM
the new can replace either of the two before it..
well if uncle sam didn't cut the check.. then easier than playing seven ways to bacon i'm sure we can find a check from uncle sam to the company that cut the check for the standard..
and the millions of people who buy helmets that might want to check that the helmet being bought meets standards/law.. because they don't exactly take the manufacturer at their word..
yea that makes sense.. spend 100$ for a piece of paper that is the law the government would require you to follow for evaluating a 20$ item.
yes it does.. but i warn you others might not let you do it for long
how do i know your real? I've never heard of a Nigerian Professor, i though everyone over there was a Prince
thank you - my god i don't know how i missed that.. I've been dealing with the new version for so long.. it just isn't something i go into a lot, but when i go into i really need it.. and to be able to walk the documentation like the classic style lets you, that is real value to me..
again, thanks,., i do not know how i missed that.
i'd agree with you for the old msdn.. but the latest generation annoys me.. while all the same information is there, they lack the old tree based view so you can find other related items with ease.. right now you can find documentation for what you want but it is no longer useful for finding something you want to use but don't know if it exists/what it is called exactly.
multicore faries
do you know how much of a pain they are to catch when they make it in to your data center?? especially now that most are getting rid of their Sun boxes, they just wander and hide in the closest glowing box, which are everywhere..
"Anyone who manufactures a counterfeit U.S. coin in any denomination above five cents is subject to the same penalties as all other counterfeiters. "
so we can make pennies and nickels all we want????
my god - i failed to yield to your warning..
except it is the judge that issues the warrant..
See i'm most surprised that being a position of the president is commander-in-chief that the pentagon isn't in charge of the White House computers and systems.
these are not things that should be changing with each administration.
except this is useful for chip fab.. so there is a chance that Chevron will have to bid against Intel and other Fab's
luckily the XKCD doesn't apply.. as this isn't a research announcement.. they are actually selling the manufacturing equipment. though i do agree it will take a few years before we see any major change in prices (even if it can do what it says).. also note that it doesn't have to be "developed to a useful state" as it is a replacement for a step existing manufacturing processes, which means it is far more likely to be useful.
not even that - they aren't going to make wafers - they are building and selling the equipment to make the wafers.. so this is like the company that sold the laths to make handles to the company that made the pickaxes to sell to gold prospectors.
normally i'd look at something like this and say "someone will buy and bury it" except it has more than one industry.. while it has the potential to drop solar panel costs.. it also has the potential to drop semiconductor fab costs.. so if someone wants to buy and bury it.. you will have oil vs. chip/tech.. going to be a hard fight.. so if this thing actually works and does as it says it does.. give it a few years and we might actually see the prices dropping considerably on solar panels..
right now the pay off for complete solar is 30-35 years where i live.. if that gets into the 10-12 year.. i'll be game to switch.
you didn't ask what they "should" do .. but rather what they "could" do.. and given track records.. just because they shouldn't doesn't mean they won't.
they took samples of what is behind the wall (aka samples of the lost work) and found pigments know to only have been used by Da Vinci