Nothing is stopping anyone from making "Linus-sux-ix" or something. If you're unhappy with Linus' work then do your own work and make things better....just make sure you GPL it.:)
Actually, I have to agree with you from a tech standpoint. I tried it. I was unimpressed. I never went back.
However the article mentions that it was a popular community with over 400 people "on the fly" [give me a break] at one time. Building an online community isn't easy...and for every Firefly/Slashdot/Well that exists, there are hundreds, or even thousands that fail. So they must have done something right.
simply because there are more of them; I want there to be more intelligentsia than dumbos. Who said Microsoft's old company mission statement was right??
Let's let linux conquer both the server AND the desktop worlds equally. Then I'll be happy.
In my eyes, your 2 statements blatently contradict each other.
In order for Linux to "conquer both the server AND the desktop worlds equally" (your words), we need a tool like Lizard. You NEED something for the "dumbos" (your words) to use...and you need people just trying it out and asking questions like "What is Lilo, and why doesn't it work?". It's sad but true.
Yep. Caldera broke my Lilo....and I even went as far as to manually edit my lilo.conf (however, I was re-installing from scratch, so I didn't have a "proven to work" backup of a lilo.conf file) and re-run lilo. Still wouldn't re-boot....i was locked out as well (thank good ness for old slakware boot disks lying at the bottom of my drawer).:)
But I see absolutely no reason whatsoever for me to continue using Linux if it's going to stop being what it is, and try to be a desktop. I have no use for desktop operating system with install programs whose size rival that of a Microsoft install program.
Stop Pouting
Do you honestly think that all of a sudden Linux is going to require a GUI (which is what you seem to be worried about). Linux is a server OS....soon it might be a server OS AND a desktop OS, but it's not going to magically stop working as a server OS.
If you don't want Lizard, don't use is. Debian will continue to offer a text-only installer I'm sure....and if you have to, go back to Slakware or something.
Lament things worth lamenting....and cut out the "end of the world" speeches...it does nothing but feed the media's belief that Linux is susecptible to fragmentation.
Go GPL or go home. Seriously, Mozilla didn't go far enough and look at the poor public support it has sustained.
Faulty logic. I refuse to believe that the only reason Mozilla didn't receive "public support" is its license choice. It seems every time I read something about why the mozilla project has failed (and I don't necessarily agree that it HAS failed) I'm reading about code complexity, project sexiness, and other stuff....
that said, it still would have been nice if Caldera went with the GPL....
yeah...i think they have something called "Lisa"...but I haven't actually installed anything but Red Hat and Debian in a while....so I might be mis-remembering.
but I think Lizard, while being gorgeous to look at basically lacks in some cases. The case I'm thinking of in particular is this:
It's targetted at "newbies"... and I'll admit it was comforting to set up. BUT it screwed up some stuff that Red Hat's installer breezed through easily on my system. I've been using Linux for 5 years now....and I can work around the screwups and fix them....but I still think that RH6 is easier for the average joe to install.
Problems I saw with Lizard (and the Caldera install in general)....
LILO was broken in Caldera each time I tried to re-install it....could'nt get it to boot past "LI"...i haven't had that problem on the box I was playing with since 1.2 kernels on old Slakware distros...again RH6 had no problems.
Couldn't get sound working in Caldera. Sndconfig in RH6 worked like a breeze for my on-board sound-chip. I maybe not have looked hard enough for a solution...because the Lilo problem caused me to abandon Caldera pretty quickly in favor of Red Hat....go figure. I still pine for the days of being a Slakware addict.
Package management with COAS is a far cry from package management with GnoRPM and/or Glint.
no offense....but would it be possible to block out all "Geeks in Space" articles from the home page? I know there's category blockage....but I sure would like to keep this off too:)
Again...no offense Rob...it's just that I'm here for news.
Also...please don't flame (others) and say "don't click if you don't want to read"....i'm only asking for a way to block these articles just like we can block others.
So my question is this: Why do 99% of American refuse to see their liberties being eroded right out from under them?
This WAS the land of the free, but now, every time I turn around, I'm hearing about how the FBI has the right to decrypt my e-mail, listen to my phone conversations and about 100 other things.
Are we all so complacent that we just don't care anymore?
Outcome 1 - nothing breaks it. THis would be a bad thing. Arrogance and "we're unstoppable" would be their attitude.
Outcome 2 - we break it. they fix it. This would be a GOOD THING. The more secure a system is, the better. It doesn't conflict with our goal of Total World Domincation....it just gives people a viable choice.
You forgot Outcome 3 though - we break it. they deny it for 6 months and then release a Service Pack that fixes the problem that "doesn't exist". This seems the most likely to me.
Does anyone know what precipitated the new offices? I was wondering (for no real reason): Are they were projecting the need for these offices and spending their capital on them in hopes of sustaining their growth? Or are they already so big that they need this many offices?
Just wondering. Even Red Hat (who is, for now at least, much bigger) doesn't have offices in that many cities do they?
You're right. Video will make this movie the best. I can imagine (with goosebumps) watching this at a cabin in the woods on a TV alone with some friends....
There is NO WAY you could go to sleep after doing that.:)
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Nothing is stopping anyone from making "Linus-sux-ix" or something. If you're unhappy with Linus' work then do your own work and make things better....just make sure you GPL it. :)
Uh... :)
Pretty smart to worry about the grovelling of someone who won't even post their name after their comments
leave me alone. I'm kidding.
Next time we should use monkeys.
leave me alone. i'm kidding.
uh..
i think he was joking.
However the article mentions that it was a popular community with over 400 people "on the fly" [give me a break] at one time. Building an online community isn't easy...and for every Firefly/Slashdot/Well that exists, there are hundreds, or even thousands that fail. So they must have done something right.
By "bay area" do you mean lake mac? or some bay thereabouts?
Or did you leave Holland for California?
Hmmm. Is java really buzzword compliant???? Find out for sure.
:)
werd.
In order for Linux to "conquer both the server AND the desktop worlds equally" (your words), we need a tool like Lizard. You NEED something for the "dumbos" (your words) to use...and you need people just trying it out and asking questions like "What is Lilo, and why doesn't it work?". It's sad but true.
Lisa may have been caldera's old installer. Yikes! SOrry for the confusion.
Yep. Caldera broke my Lilo....and I even went as far as to manually edit my lilo.conf (however, I was re-installing from scratch, so I didn't have a "proven to work" backup of a lilo.conf file) and re-run lilo. Still wouldn't re-boot....i was locked out as well (thank good ness for old slakware boot disks lying at the bottom of my drawer). :)
Stop Pouting
Do you honestly think that all of a sudden Linux is going to require a GUI (which is what you seem to be worried about). Linux is a server OS....soon it might be a server OS AND a desktop OS, but it's not going to magically stop working as a server OS.
If you don't want Lizard, don't use is. Debian will continue to offer a text-only installer I'm sure....and if you have to, go back to Slakware or something.
Lament things worth lamenting....and cut out the "end of the world" speeches...it does nothing but feed the media's belief that Linux is susecptible to fragmentation.
Faulty logic. I refuse to believe that the only reason Mozilla didn't receive "public support" is its license choice. It seems every time I read something about why the mozilla project has failed (and I don't necessarily agree that it HAS failed) I'm reading about code complexity, project sexiness, and other stuff....
that said, it still would have been nice if Caldera went with the GPL....
yeah...i think they have something called "Lisa" ...but I haven't actually installed anything but Red Hat and Debian in a while....so I might be mis-remembering.
they use RPMs.
It's targetted at "newbies" ... and I'll admit it was comforting to set up. BUT it screwed up some stuff that Red Hat's installer breezed through easily on my system. I've been using Linux for 5 years now....and I can work around the screwups and fix them....but I still think that RH6 is easier for the average joe to install.
Problems I saw with Lizard (and the Caldera install in general)....
I figure if Monks can drink it, I can too...
Bell's Oberon. Michigan's first microbrewery (1986).
Again...no offense Rob...it's just that I'm here for news.
Also...please don't flame (others) and say "don't click if you don't want to read"....i'm only asking for a way to block these articles just like we can block others.
Why do 99% of American refuse to see their liberties being eroded right out from under them?
This WAS the land of the free, but now, every time I turn around, I'm hearing about how the FBI has the right to decrypt my e-mail, listen to my phone conversations and about 100 other things.
Are we all so complacent that we just don't care anymore?
Question 2 - is it better elsewhere? REALLY?
Outcome 1 - nothing breaks it. THis would be a bad thing. Arrogance and "we're unstoppable" would be their attitude.
Outcome 2 - we break it. they fix it. This would be a GOOD THING. The more secure a system is, the better. It doesn't conflict with our goal of Total World Domincation....it just gives people a viable choice.
You forgot Outcome 3 though - we break it. they deny it for 6 months and then release a Service Pack that fixes the problem that "doesn't exist". This seems the most likely to me.
Just wondering. Even Red Hat (who is, for now at least, much bigger) doesn't have offices in that many cities do they?
Just wondering...
Video will make this movie the best. I can imagine (with goosebumps) watching this at a cabin in the woods on a TV alone with some friends....
There is NO WAY you could go to sleep after doing that. :)