Yes, or pay me to fix it for you. Like in _any other service business_.
Wait a second, so what you're telling me is that you write open source software without guaranteeing functionality, then you charge people when they want you to fix it? How again is that like any other business? Does your be-hated Microsoft charge users every time they release a new security update? What you're suggesting is far less ethical than their current model.
Why "anyone"? Just a few percent of the world's population (let's say 0.01%) suffice to find all the bugs there are.
That's one of the most naive statements I've ever seen on Slashdot. Even if 100% of the population were software developers, there would still be bugs. Not to mention, apparently the only way any of those 0.01% are going to even address the bug is if they are getting paid for it (as per your previous statement).
What is peak performance? You can't have both low memory usage and fast retrieval of previously-visited pages. The devs had to pick one and they did.
#1 - Why not? #2 - If they were forced to choose, perhaps they chose wrong. #3 - If a typical home PC owner is expected to switch to open source software, what are they supposed to do when they have a problem? They can't go to the community that created it because that community has excuses for nearly everything (the devs had to pick one and they did.) and for those things they don't have an excuse for, they say "Create a patch and submit it." If they use something commercial, at least there is someone they can go to for help and can hold responsible, even legally if it comes down to it.
Yes, Grandma, I know you are having trouble with this software. You should write a patch for it and donate it.
OSS has the potential of transferring the massive wealth from the few MBA types, back to the coders and grunts on the front lines.
So, explain to me again how developers are going to make money by writing software and donating it? Tax write-off, maybe? If I don't have any income, I'm not sure how I'm going to write off any taxes...
In my expeirence no web browser is dramaticaly faster or slower than any other.
Actually from the time that I click the button on my quick launch bar, to the time I see my "home" page on the screen... I can clearly see that IE (6 AND 7) is dramatically faster. To a non-developer (stupid user) first impressions are key and this is not a good first impression.
I haven't seen a problem with FireFox's memory use.
Ah, but alas many, many others have -- including the stupid users. I don't use Firefox as my primary browser (mainly because of the above topic) but from what I have used it, it has slowed the entire machine down to a crawl at times. This is a development box, btw, with lots of RAM and power, capable of hosting multiple appservers & database servers at the same time for 127.0.0.1.
...it is up to us IT people to FORCE end users to care about security!
No. It is up to us IT people to make security happen, and it is up to our users to use the tools that they need in order to design, manufacture, market, sell and ship the business's end product. I don't want my big-wigs worrying about whether what they're clicking on is going to crash their computer, I want them to worry about keeping the company I work for profitable, so that I continue to have a job.
And as said time and time again, the browser will be used at its defaults by most users and should function at peak performance in that configuration if you want the user base to grow anywhere near the size of IE's.
It doesn't matter, though, because if you make it too hard to write software for Windows, people will stop. They'll find another platform that is more enticing to them. It won't happen immediately, of course. But it'll happen.
You're wrong. No matter how hard it is, developers will write software where the user base is, because that's our bread and butter. We will do everything we can to make our lives easier there, but when a difficulty comes along, we suck it up and keep pushing. The market drives the business, not the other way around.
Perhaps, but since Google is toting this as a document sharing tool (similar to sharepoint), if you import an xls, then one of your consumers wishes to export it back to xls so that they may use it, the GP's problems become quite evident.
Ah, but it is you who is labelling my statements as logic... So your first assertion is false. Also, my wife can pretty easily disprove your second statement. I, apparently unlike most other slashdotters, can manage a social life too;)
...even proprietary code that shouldn't have been posted to the Internet...
Seems to me that it's NOT necessarily open source. Besides, Open Source isn't a magic bullet. "You found a bug in my open source app so you should fix it and upload a patch"... wow what a cop-out answer. If you think that anyone who uses any open source app is also a software developer... and a good one at that... well, no wonder Linux isn't more popular.
I agree that it'd be nice if this article were actually an article though...
I think you're trying to be funny, but let me point out a couple of things...
1) Electronics don't have the concept of "Race" or ancestry therefore you cannot be racist against them. 2) The Dutch are not Americans, else they would likely be called Americans. Therefore you should call it an African-Dutch-box by your logic.
The tests that were around before that NCLB were relatively simple tests that took no more than a week or so of class-time and simply were used as a "litmus test" to see what the kids knew. Granted that tests are a poor way of doing this, they are easy to administer so they are used anyway.
Well, you're absolutely right. I also have two sisters who are teachers. Fortunately, they teach pre-school and special-needs so they are not subjected to planning around tests quite so much. My father is an elementary school principal of 24 years and he has noticed exactly what you just said. In fact, he is looking forward to retirement because he is AFRAID of how test-oriented our nation's education has become. He worked his ass off to hire the right teachers to get his school exactly how he wanted it. He spends tons of time with just a few students... and it's amazing how he can turn a kid around and get them to realize their personal responsibility, even if their parents are horrible role models.
It is sad that people like him are now forced to spend their time with their students just trying to train them to take a test. I'm sorry to make this political, but Bush's "No Child Left Behind" is a load of crap and it's causing far more problems than it's solving.
The satellites weren't put up in 2006.... In fact most of the images weren't generated in 2006... and even so, none of the technology that actually captures the pictures belongs to google.
I criticize our government all the time AND I DO NOT mean specifically who is in office now, but the fact is that our government for the people, of the people and by the people no longer exists.
Do you think "the American people" really want to send our soldiers into the iraqi death trap? Do you think we want to have all of our phone conversations recorded for future scrutiny? Maybe some do, but not nearly all of them. I'd rather have a president who can run our country but can't run his own life (Clinton) than a president that can't run the country (Bush)... but I'd actually prefer someone who can handle both.
Certainly, I am an advocate of eliminating the exploitation of children.
I personally think that the way this should work is if someone is suspected of wrongdoing, the authorities should obtain a warrant and then "tap" the internet connection, just as they currently do for phone calls... well.... unless you're W.
I don't see why the internet is treated as if our constitution doesn't apply. You could probably google image search the term "bathtub" while trying to remodel your bathroom... and it could return a photo someone took of their kids taking a bath. Does this mean the person doing the search is a criminal? Technically, yes. Realistically, no. Yet this could be held against them in today's lawyer driven society.
The other thing is, an internet account is registered to one person but seldom used by only them. How do you determine which potential user could be committing the crime? Sure you say one should be responsible for restricting access, but there are millions of people out there that don't really know what they're doing. Their wireless access point is not secure (because they don't know anything about it) and ANYONE could be using their connection to surf child porn or learn how to make bombs or whatever. Yes, there are ways of determining all of this information but that would mean the courts and lawyers would have to understand the system, too... which is not part of their job descriptions.
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I call BS - If MS shipped Firefox with windows, they'd get their asses sued off for breaking the license agreement.
Another fine example of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
You want slashdot readers to become celibate?
ok, here you go: http://secunia.com/advisories/12580/
Wait a second, so what you're telling me is that you write open source software without guaranteeing functionality, then you charge people when they want you to fix it? How again is that like any other business? Does your be-hated Microsoft charge users every time they release a new security update? What you're suggesting is far less ethical than their current model.
That's one of the most naive statements I've ever seen on Slashdot. Even if 100% of the population were software developers, there would still be bugs. Not to mention, apparently the only way any of those 0.01% are going to even address the bug is if they are getting paid for it (as per your previous statement).
#1 - Why not?
#2 - If they were forced to choose, perhaps they chose wrong.
#3 - If a typical home PC owner is expected to switch to open source software, what are they supposed to do when they have a problem? They can't go to the community that created it because that community has excuses for nearly everything (the devs had to pick one and they did.) and for those things they don't have an excuse for, they say "Create a patch and submit it." If they use something commercial, at least there is someone they can go to for help and can hold responsible, even legally if it comes down to it.
Yes, Grandma, I know you are having trouble with this software. You should write a patch for it and donate it.
Come on.
So, explain to me again how developers are going to make money by writing software and donating it? Tax write-off, maybe? If I don't have any income, I'm not sure how I'm going to write off any taxes...
I agree with you and would like to add that as far as projection goes, another problem is that you gain size but not resolution.
Part of what I'd expect out of a 30" monitor is a higher resolution, basically meaning that I could fit more code on the screen at the same time.
Ah, but alas many, many others have -- including the stupid users. I don't use Firefox as my primary browser (mainly because of the above topic) but from what I have used it, it has slowed the entire machine down to a crawl at times. This is a development box, btw, with lots of RAM and power, capable of hosting multiple appservers & database servers at the same time for 127.0.0.1.
No. It is up to us IT people to make security happen, and it is up to our users to use the tools that they need in order to design, manufacture, market, sell and ship the business's end product. I don't want my big-wigs worrying about whether what they're clicking on is going to crash their computer, I want them to worry about keeping the company I work for profitable, so that I continue to have a job.
And as said time and time again, the browser will be used at its defaults by most users and should function at peak performance in that configuration if you want the user base to grow anywhere near the size of IE's.
You're wrong. No matter how hard it is, developers will write software where the user base is, because that's our bread and butter. We will do everything we can to make our lives easier there, but when a difficulty comes along, we suck it up and keep pushing. The market drives the business, not the other way around.
Perhaps, but since Google is toting this as a document sharing tool (similar to sharepoint), if you import an xls, then one of your consumers wishes to export it back to xls so that they may use it, the GP's problems become quite evident.
Ah, but it is you who is labelling my statements as logic... So your first assertion is false. Also, my wife can pretty easily disprove your second statement. I, apparently unlike most other slashdotters, can manage a social life too ;)
Seems to me that it's NOT necessarily open source. Besides, Open Source isn't a magic bullet. "You found a bug in my open source app so you should fix it and upload a patch"... wow what a cop-out answer. If you think that anyone who uses any open source app is also a software developer... and a good one at that... well, no wonder Linux isn't more popular.
I agree that it'd be nice if this article were actually an article though...
Yeah, I heard that one on Bob and Tom yesterday, too.
Um...
I think you're trying to be funny, but let me point out a couple of things...
1) Electronics don't have the concept of "Race" or ancestry therefore you cannot be racist against them.
2) The Dutch are not Americans, else they would likely be called Americans. Therefore you should call it an African-Dutch-box by your logic.
That depends on your definition of "is". If you mean "Is and always was"....
Ah, the memories...
The tests that were around before that NCLB were relatively simple tests that took no more than a week or so of class-time and simply were used as a "litmus test" to see what the kids knew. Granted that tests are a poor way of doing this, they are easy to administer so they are used anyway.
Well, you're absolutely right. I also have two sisters who are teachers. Fortunately, they teach pre-school and special-needs so they are not subjected to planning around tests quite so much. My father is an elementary school principal of 24 years and he has noticed exactly what you just said. In fact, he is looking forward to retirement because he is AFRAID of how test-oriented our nation's education has become. He worked his ass off to hire the right teachers to get his school exactly how he wanted it. He spends tons of time with just a few students... and it's amazing how he can turn a kid around and get them to realize their personal responsibility, even if their parents are horrible role models.
It is sad that people like him are now forced to spend their time with their students just trying to train them to take a test. I'm sorry to make this political, but Bush's "No Child Left Behind" is a load of crap and it's causing far more problems than it's solving.
Because OSX has about 5% of the users that Windows does :-/
So does a PHP script, yet I don't see any "AJAX vs PHP" articles.
The satellites weren't put up in 2006.... In fact most of the images weren't generated in 2006... and even so, none of the technology that actually captures the pictures belongs to google.
That's not true!
I criticize our government all the time AND I DO NOT mean specifically who is in office now, but the fact is that our government for the people, of the people and by the people no longer exists.
Do you think "the American people" really want to send our soldiers into the iraqi death trap? Do you think we want to have all of our phone conversations recorded for future scrutiny? Maybe some do, but not nearly all of them. I'd rather have a president who can run our country but can't run his own life (Clinton) than a president that can't run the country (Bush)... but I'd actually prefer someone who can handle both.
For that matter, what about the open-ended nature of the Internet?
Certainly, I am an advocate of eliminating the exploitation of children.
I personally think that the way this should work is if someone is suspected of wrongdoing, the authorities should obtain a warrant and then "tap" the internet connection, just as they currently do for phone calls... well.... unless you're W.
I don't see why the internet is treated as if our constitution doesn't apply. You could probably google image search the term "bathtub" while trying to remodel your bathroom... and it could return a photo someone took of their kids taking a bath. Does this mean the person doing the search is a criminal? Technically, yes. Realistically, no. Yet this could be held against them in today's lawyer driven society.
The other thing is, an internet account is registered to one person but seldom used by only them. How do you determine which potential user could be committing the crime? Sure you say one should be responsible for restricting access, but there are millions of people out there that don't really know what they're doing. Their wireless access point is not secure (because they don't know anything about it) and ANYONE could be using their connection to surf child porn or learn how to make bombs or whatever. Yes, there are ways of determining all of this information but that would mean the courts and lawyers would have to understand the system, too... which is not part of their job descriptions.