*per violation* would be nice, but it will end in one of those cases has Linspire vs Windows. You can only benefit if you actually have the receipt for the CD bought in Texas state...
I really do not think so many people keep receipts for books and cd's after all
Basically, it's MS's way of waying, "You want openness? Fine, but if we're going to play, we're going to play with our ball."
Everybody, lets jump on Microsoft Balls:)
Fuck them. Since when it must be their format to become a standard? With theyr past actions on support WEB and even their on previous OpenDocumment format (where they have done some work) and now people are forced to use this format. Shit happens, these EU guys should force them to addopt the OO format not otherwise...
Anyway, there is a easier way to defend the anti-spyware guys. Since this crappy EULA says "it is forbidden to..." Then you simply classify this crappy as spy-aware, no analysis needed... as simple as this...
goverment enforced standardization yes. Or do you forget who where the first to adopt the metric system? i didn't mean a standard made by... just enforced, in the sense of making people to adopt it.
Just wait until microsoft defines is "standard" AJAX interface.
What i would like to see is the US goverment and other countries to force them to adopt clean, industry defined standards like the XML, HTML,CSS, AJAX and not an assimilated badly digest crappy way of doing things that breaks the WEB. They should be more humble since the WEB has given a good chance for all companies to develop and sell new products, and microsoft is no exception here, aldo they have wakeup lately to this.
because it dos cause a negative impact on people who are betting money for the first time on open source software and Linux systems. I iraq has made Bush administration go mad at the point of claiming some weapons of mass destruction where hidden on Iraq.
While you and me may see this as a stupid reaction and recognise the threat as false, fake whatever, a lot of people will use this to different purposes. Windows advertisers can see this as a good moment to grab those undefined clients, and a good platform on Linux may be delayed. IBM support to Linux is the right passport for lot of companies. While Redhat has build a platform of success based on reliable service and hade to figh for some part of the market, IBM word is in a lot of circles has a golden word. And yes, these bastards can make some damages, trying to stop new Linux versions. While i don't like this policy, they should taste the poison they are trowing to the open source community. I Still remember when SCO was so desperate to get attention they started to send you a Free CD with a one user license. That time linux was still 1.0 or 1.1 only and was a lottle easier to install then SCO. I hade to fight with obscure BIOS settings and drivers combinations to get this crap running on a pentium 150Mhz.
they really did nothing innovative lately, and the only thing they can do is to use a legal system to get some desperate attention. Companies like this should be dissolved for public bennefit simply because they do not deliver any positive value to the IT market...
Anyway, they are patetic, they are falling maybe they need a friendly hand to push down further...
Just as a side note, has i read a article about the 10 most expensive bugs (/.) and i found this interesting:
In January 1982, President Ronald Reagan approved a CIA plan to sabotage the economy of the Soviet Union through covert transfers of technology that contained hidden malfunctions, including software that later triggered a huge explosion in a Siberian natural gas pipeline, according to a new memoir by a Reagan White House official.
Thomas C. Reed, a former Air Force secretary who was serving in the National Security Council at the time, describes the episode in "At the Abyss: An Insider's History of the Cold War," to be published next month by Ballantine Books. Reed writes that the pipeline explosion was just one example of "cold-eyed economic warfare" against the Soviet Union that the CIA carried out under Director William J. Casey during the final years of the Cold War.
and this is very very interesting:
At the time, the United States was attempting to block Western Europe from importing Soviet natural gas. There were also signs that the Soviets were trying to steal a wide variety of Western technology. Then, a KGB insider revealed the specific shopping list and the CIA slipped the flawed software to the Soviets in a way they would not detect it....
CIA sabotage
A fine example of how your democratic country has developed over the years, causing damages to other countrys...
I find this example as a TRUE DEMOCRACY lesson don't you agree?
SCO is not stupid. It's just Microsoft hand behind all that money, trying to stop IBM of pushing
linux further and conquere the server market. When there was only AIX, SCO, IRIX and BSD
NT kernel started to gain a respect position in the server market, a position this guys on
redmond are loosing with the Linux rulling in server, specially last Z series of IBM and the
future line of PowerPC based servers. Who do you trust for businnes? Even IBM is whiling to allow
Sun Solaris as the base system of their server line. Now people just jump of x86 hardware and
do nice with Power... No wonder they wnat to stop IBM. IF you got a x86 you can easily swap
the OS and put a 2000 server, guess what, people on PowerPC do not run 2000 server.
I'm alredy seeing the picture: you just need to change the OS no hardware need:
Customer with PowerPC: Can i run Windows on it? No then sorry i not interested in changing.
IBM should seriously considerer the chance of crushing these bastards...
I also pay for my education. But i pay for people with no money to receive a proper assistance and education. I also pay taxes, so people that do not have monet can access a free medical care. Take a step further and help poor people, helping yourself. You see, if you educate people with no money to realize the benefits of working they will make part of our society as workers. If you can only show them that money is what differentiates a healty life style from a john doe, them why should people go to work anyway?
BTW: I guess I can start assuming everyone in the middle east/south asian countries are all a bunch of ignorant morons that agree with terrorism who live in the stone age and throw spears at [U.S.] helicopters when they bring in aid [Tsunami Relief done by Pakistani or Indian villages, just in case you were wondering]? I see that on the news all the time.
The same morons that helped the fucking taliban people with weapons in the 80's to fight against teh russians in afghanistan, or did you forget? The same bastards that trainned a guy so well it turns out to crush New York WTC in 2001. When you feed rattle snakes with your hand you should count with a strong bit. Consequences of your democracy. Any way, your country is not a real democracy, since in your voting systems people's vote don't count at all. All the elections are based in the electoral college system and thus you don't get any real democracy in that system. Democracy means people vote note a rich guy that represents the votting people in some state. Take a look at Brasil voting system. It's electronic based, free from frauds and represents people true whises. Lula Da Silva was elected using the system and guess what? I was an opponent to the main president. See the principles of democracy here? An electronic system elected the president opponent and nobody complaint on the way votes where counted...
Ps: i don't have envy of you people. I' can only feel sorry for you having elected a dum guy that dosen't know world geography and think Texas is the center of the world...
>Also, it's not the government's fault that college is more expensive here than in other countries because, >for the most part, our colleges are much better and we, as a nation, do not pay higher taxes to put >everyone through college, including those that do not deserve or need it.
I agree with you. People that do not deserve should not get access to education. And of course "do not deserve" is a well stablished rule based on what's your father's incoming salary. That's also reflected on your medical care. People who do not have a Social Security number can die, wayting for proper care on a hospital. Not very different from a third world country. After all why should a nation pay higher taxes for people who do not deserve basic medical care?
That's the benefits of a superior education... Not your fault either if you don't understand the basic principles of such complicated things as Democracy...
You should read the FAQ before posting. http://code.google.com/summfaq.html#when_do_i_get_ paid total per completed projct is: $4500 whic is more than fair enougth for 8 weeks of work.
If that is not enought for paying one semester of college than it's your goverment fault not google.
Where i live it actually is enoutgh for a year, and i can guess that in countries as India it would
be more than enougth, but that is not the question here. Of course 852 / 8) * 4500 dosen't give you the average incoming of a US IT professional worker but it's a start...
in fact start is so informative that i don't now where i shold START...
It this is another idea like this start page then i can bet our money
on google, otherwise i'll bet my money on google again. At least they
support some open source and pay for school geeks in the google summer
of code
If it's based on 100% open systems the it's open source.
If not, then if it is easily portabl then it's open source. look for Qt, wxWindows Tcl/Tk, Java gui's and API's. QT even has support for threads making your software totaly portable. So dos it make sense to compile code against the latest MFC or some other 3rd party tools and claim to be open?
Well, the source can be but the result is not, and i think open source should not only means open (in source code) but also free to compile and run...
i'm not a fundamentalist but very often open projects in windows do not become ported to linux, while the reverse is almost always true, just look at cygwin...
This wasn't Gates opinion a few months ago when there was a strong war on how's the winner format. No that most of people prefer and support Blue-Ray he his against DRM... Sure Wma is a nice non-DRM format and i'm pretty sure other codecs from Mic... will also be in the future. Just wait until i rules the market again...
I've seen a lot of countries were people freedom is also kept at the expense of America, Israelits and Russian weapons. Perhaps we should place them on the same baggage? I mean, if a western IT company produces software that limits freedom of speech how about the armor factory?
I don't agree with the use of the technology developed by them, but it's a false morality to just sotp software companies. I guess it's a question of how much dollars does your company pauyes to your politicians...
on beta.news.com
Microsoft and JBoss said Tuesday they'll work to make JBoss' Java application server software work well with Microsoft's Windows and higher-level software.
Making Jboss more compatible with microsoft. Really, another time Microshit try to bypass industry standards.
Wake up JBoss people, are you guys on dope?
Cool.
So if they don't download nothing what stop people from floading the search with fake file servers?
Better yet they can't actually prove the files on my computer are from any RIAA associated artist, since they actually didn't test for the file content
and i can have any file named Mariah Carrey for my thesis document if this make sense:)
So people should try to locate these searchers and flood them with shit !!! Shouldn't be much difficult since they don't take nothing. It's like the cops, they ask too much about the drugs and don't buy any...
Do they contribute with some of the music servers?
And do they download music in order to generate traffic?
And then they sell it as vital information to understand the market.
Do they erase the downloaded songs after?
I wouldn't mind working there i guess...
I guess you never heard about the Nile.
Tell, me do you know the impact on controlling hurricanes can do to:
The zooplancton
The CO2 absorved by the zooplantcton
The impact on spreading the zooplantcton on the oceans
What life depend on this
The future impact on the atmosphere
If you can answer this questions then we get this as a consequence for not changing the causes.
Otherwise, it is pretty arrogant to assume this as not being a purpose of nature.
I guess you think
the same logic applies to the rain, wind and the four seasons and any other phenomenon.
People should think twice before building cities on places where natural disasters occur every year instead of subverting nature rules.
For that take a degree on terraformation and fly away to Mars...
talk with a biologist, it will tell you that after all major natural disasters life as spred and envolve into new forms, thus adapting to a new realitty. This is a purpose for me!!!
Winds have always made part of nature, storms have they role into it. Maybe in the future people can freeze the atmosfeare and get a perfect wheter every day, but what is the price you have to pay for that?
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*per violation* would be nice, but it will end in one of those cases has Linspire vs Windows. You can only benefit if you actually have the receipt for the CD bought in Texas state ...
I really do not think so many people keep receipts for books and cd's after all
Way to go Texas, for $100.000 Sony will pay and do-it again ...
Basically, it's MS's way of waying, "You want openness? Fine, but if we're going to play, we're going to play with our ball." Everybody, lets jump on Microsoft Balls :)
Fuck them. Since when it must be their format to become a standard? With theyr past actions on support WEB and even their on previous OpenDocumment format (where they have done some work) and now people are forced to use this format. Shit happens, these EU guys should force them to addopt the OO format not otherwise ...
Just a guess, after the latest Amazon dumb patent ...
couldn't agree more with you ...
Anyway, there is a easier way to defend the anti-spyware guys. Since this crappy EULA says "it is forbidden to ..." Then you simply classify this crappy as spy-aware, no analysis needed ... as simple as this ...
goverment enforced standardization yes. Or do you forget who where the first to adopt the metric system? i didn't mean a standard made by ... just enforced, in the sense of making people to adopt it.
Just wait until microsoft defines is "standard" AJAX interface.
What i would like to see is the US goverment and other countries to force them to adopt clean, industry defined standards like the XML, HTML,CSS, AJAX and not an assimilated badly digest crappy way of doing things that breaks the WEB. They should be more humble since the WEB has given a good chance for all companies to develop and sell new products, and microsoft is no exception here, aldo they have wakeup lately to this.
because it dos cause a negative impact on people who are betting money for the first time on open source software and Linux systems. I iraq has made Bush administration go mad at the point of claiming some weapons of mass destruction where hidden on Iraq. ...
...
While you and me may see this as a stupid reaction and recognise the threat as false, fake whatever, a lot of people will use this to different purposes. Windows advertisers can see this as a good moment to grab those undefined clients, and a good platform on Linux may be delayed. IBM support to Linux is the right passport for lot of companies. While Redhat has build a platform of success based on reliable service and hade to figh for some part of the market, IBM word is in a lot of circles has a golden word.
And yes, these bastards can make some damages, trying to stop new Linux versions.
While i don't like this policy, they should taste the poison they are trowing to the open source community. I Still remember when SCO was so desperate to get attention they started to send you a Free CD with a one user license. That time linux was still 1.0 or 1.1 only and was a lottle easier to install then SCO. I hade to fight with obscure BIOS settings and drivers combinations to get this crap running on a pentium 150Mhz.
they really did nothing innovative lately, and the only thing they can do is to use a legal system to get some desperate attention. Companies like this should be dissolved for public bennefit simply because they do not deliver any positive value to the IT market
Anyway, they are patetic, they are falling maybe they need a friendly hand to push down further
Just as a side note, has i read a article about the 10 most expensive bugs (/.) and i found this interesting: ....
...
In January 1982, President Ronald Reagan approved a CIA plan to sabotage the economy of the Soviet Union through covert transfers of technology that contained hidden malfunctions, including software that later triggered a huge explosion in a Siberian natural gas pipeline, according to a new memoir by a Reagan White House official. Thomas C. Reed, a former Air Force secretary who was serving in the National Security Council at the time, describes the episode in "At the Abyss: An Insider's History of the Cold War," to be published next month by Ballantine Books. Reed writes that the pipeline explosion was just one example of "cold-eyed economic warfare" against the Soviet Union that the CIA carried out under Director William J. Casey during the final years of the Cold War.
and this is very very interesting: At the time, the United States was attempting to block Western Europe from importing Soviet natural gas. There were also signs that the Soviets were trying to steal a wide variety of Western technology. Then, a KGB insider revealed the specific shopping list and the CIA slipped the flawed software to the Soviets in a way they would not detect it
CIA sabotage
A fine example of how your democratic country has developed over the years, causing damages to other countrys
I find this example as a TRUE DEMOCRACY lesson don't you agree?
SCO is not stupid. It's just Microsoft hand behind all that money, trying to stop IBM of pushing ... No wonder they wnat to stop IBM. IF you got a x86 you can easily swap
...
linux further and conquere the server market. When there was only AIX, SCO, IRIX and BSD
NT kernel started to gain a respect position in the server market, a position this guys on
redmond are loosing with the Linux rulling in server, specially last Z series of IBM and the future line of PowerPC based servers. Who do you trust for businnes? Even IBM is whiling to allow
Sun Solaris as the base system of their server line. Now people just jump of x86 hardware and
do nice with Power
the OS and put a 2000 server, guess what, people on PowerPC do not run 2000 server.
I'm alredy seeing the picture: you just need to change the OS no hardware need:
Customer with PowerPC: Can i run Windows on it? No then sorry i not interested in changing.
IBM should seriously considerer the chance of crushing these bastards
I also pay for my education. But i pay for people with no money to receive a proper assistance and education. I also pay taxes, so people that do not have monet can access a free medical care. Take a step further and help poor people, helping yourself. You see, if you educate people with no money to realize the benefits of working they will make part of our society as workers. If you can only show them that money is what differentiates a healty life style from a john doe, them why should people go to work anyway? ...
...
BTW: I guess I can start assuming everyone in the middle east/south asian countries are all a bunch of ignorant morons that agree with terrorism who live in the stone age and throw spears at [U.S.] helicopters when they bring in aid [Tsunami Relief done by Pakistani or Indian villages, just in case you were wondering]? I see that on the news all the time. The same morons that helped the fucking taliban people with weapons in the 80's to fight against teh russians in afghanistan, or did you forget? The same bastards that trainned a guy so well it turns out to crush New York WTC in 2001. When you feed rattle snakes with your hand you should count with a strong bit. Consequences of your democracy. Any way, your country is not a real democracy, since in your voting systems people's vote don't count at all. All the elections are based in the electoral college system and thus you don't get any real democracy in that system. Democracy means people vote note a rich guy that represents the votting people in some state. Take a look at Brasil voting system. It's electronic based, free from frauds and represents people true whises. Lula Da Silva was elected using the system and guess what? I was an opponent to the main president. See the principles of democracy here? An electronic system elected the president opponent and nobody complaint on the way votes where counted
Ps: i don't have envy of you people. I' can only feel sorry for you having elected a dum guy that dosen't know world geography and think Texas is the center of the world
>Also, it's not the government's fault that college is more expensive here than in other countries because,
>for the most part, our colleges are much better and we, as a nation, do not pay higher taxes to put
>everyone through college, including those that do not deserve or need it.
I agree with you. People that do not deserve should not get access to education. And of course "do not deserve" is a well stablished rule based on what's your father's incoming salary. That's also reflected on your medical care. People who do not have a Social Security number can die, wayting for proper care on a hospital. Not very different from a third world country. After all why should a nation pay higher taxes for people who do not deserve basic medical care?
That's the benefits of a superior education
Not your fault either if you don't understand the basic principles of such complicated things as Democracy
Nobody's fault. It's John Doe fault's
You should read the FAQ before posting. http://code.google.com/summfaq.html#when_do_i_get_ paid
...
total per completed projct is: $4500 whic is more than fair enougth for 8 weeks of work.
If that is not enought for paying one semester of college than it's your goverment fault not google.
Where i live it actually is enoutgh for a year, and i can guess that in countries as India it would be more than enougth, but that is not the question here. Of course 852 / 8) * 4500 dosen't give you the average incoming of a US IT professional worker but it's a start
in fact start is so informative that i don't now where i shold START ...
It this is another idea like this start page then i can bet our money
on google, otherwise i'll bet my money on google again. At least they
support some open source and pay for school geeks in the google summer
of code
If it's based on 100% open systems the it's open source. ...
...
If not, then if it is easily portabl then it's open source. look for Qt, wxWindows Tcl/Tk, Java gui's and API's. QT even has support for threads making your software totaly portable. So dos it make sense to compile code against the latest MFC or some other 3rd party tools and claim to be open?
Well, the source can be but the result is not, and i think open source should not only means open (in source code) but also free to compile and run
i'm not a fundamentalist but very often open projects in windows do not become ported to linux, while the reverse is almost always true, just look at cygwin
Because he is loosing on the HD-DVD ...
... Sure Wma is a nice non-DRM format and i'm pretty sure other codecs from Mic... will also be in the future. Just wait until i rules the market again ...
...
This wasn't Gates opinion a few months ago when there was a strong war on how's the winner format.
No that most of people prefer and support Blue-Ray he his against DRM
Let's hope not
I've seen a lot of countries were people freedom is also kept at the expense of America, Israelits and Russian weapons. Perhaps we should place them on the same baggage? I mean, if a western IT company produces software that limits freedom of speech how about the armor factory? ...
I don't agree with the use of the technology developed by them, but it's a false morality to just sotp software companies. I guess it's a question of how much dollars does your company pauyes to your politicians
on beta.news.com Microsoft and JBoss said Tuesday they'll work to make JBoss' Java application server software work well with Microsoft's Windows and higher-level software.
Making Jboss more compatible with microsoft. Really, another time Microshit try to bypass industry standards.
Wake up JBoss people, are you guys on dope?
Cool. So if they don't download nothing what stop people from floading the search with fake file servers? :)
...
Better yet they can't actually prove the files on my computer are from any RIAA associated artist, since they actually didn't test for the file content and i can have any file named Mariah Carrey for my thesis document if this make sense
So people should try to locate these searchers and flood them with shit !!! Shouldn't be much difficult since they don't take nothing. It's like the cops, they ask too much about the drugs and don't buy any
Do they contribute with some of the music servers?
...
And do they download music in order to generate traffic?
And then they sell it as vital information to understand the market.
Do they erase the downloaded songs after? I wouldn't mind working there i guess
Tell, me do you know the impact on controlling hurricanes can do to:
The zooplancton
The CO2 absorved by the zooplantcton
The impact on spreading the zooplantcton on the oceans
What life depend on this
The future impact on the atmosphere
...
If you can answer this questions then we get this as a consequence for not changing the causes.
Otherwise, it is pretty arrogant to assume this as not being a purpose of nature. I guess you think
the same logic applies to the rain, wind and the four seasons and any other phenomenon.
People should think twice before building cities on places where natural disasters occur every year instead of subverting nature rules. For that take a degree on terraformation and fly away to Mars
talk with a biologist, it will tell you that after all major natural disasters life as spred and envolve into new forms, thus adapting to a new realitty. This is a purpose for me!!!
Winds have always made part of nature, storms have they role into it. Maybe in the future people can freeze the atmosfeare and get a perfect wheter every day, but what is the price you have to pay for that?
Will they store my favorite porn stuff?