I've read with annoyance several of the "get a clue, mozilla is/has always been finished, it's shit" replies, and I've gotta say - it just isn't true.
Okay, let's *not* talk about what Mozilla WILL be. Let's talk about what Mozilla IS. For me, it:
renders so far every site that I regularly visit perfectly
loads HTML pages noticeably faster than Netscape, especially pages with tables used for layout.
is slower at some things than Netscape (pg-up/pg-down)
has some focus problems
is more stable than previous Mozillas. Netscape doesn't often crash on me (SuSE Linux), but it does occasionally get confused (pages refuse to display).
has a solution: if I don't like a feature - just stop bitching and fix it.
The problems the Mozilla project has have been well-hashed out by this particular audience, but Mozilla *is* improving. I resolve to use it until I can't. Thanks, Mozilla developers.
For me, the issue is knowing what it is I have, since knowing what to keep is dependent on this. While asset tracking is "biz as usual" for archivists, I'm not one of them. How do I keep track of whatever I have, over the last dozen years, and a ton of different machines, ranging from a MicroVax II to multi-processor SGI graphics boxen? And how do I track this info in a way that doesn't consume huge gobs of time and thought?
This assumes that information SHOULD be thrown away. I'm not interested in becoming a pack rat, I already have enough "stuff" to keep track of, thanks. I suppose I'm just not all that interested in making my information, no matter how trivial, available to future archaelogists.
Re:But how stable is it?
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A datapoint on OS X's predecessor, NeXTStep:
Once upon a time, there were two cute little NeXTStations, point & click. point nfs-mounted large portions of click, and click nfs-mounted some portions of point. Together, they shared a NeXT printer and served a happy community of CSitizens.
point & click ran. point & click ran happily. point & click neverever went down. point & click got forgotten several times during major CS-department wide outages (DNS server lunched or replaced, network equipment died). point & click recorded uptimes of 700 days apiece before they were finally shuttled away as "old, obsolete equipment".
I've never seen anything as stable as these machines. They just plain worked.
So to get back to your question about OS X being more stable than OS 8/9, I'd have to say that, if past history is an indicator, OS X will be a real winner. Here's hoping!
UCITA, from the analyses I've read of it, could very well have the effect of thrusting GPL'ed products and other freeware into the limelight.
Consumers aren't stupid. Heavy handed use of UCITA provisions will encourage customers to shop around for more friendly products (and companies, and non-companies). That "Linux preinstalled" option will start to sound better and better, so long as the GPL holds up against legal challenge.
I think this bill stands a very good chance of hurting the very publishers who are promalgating this "bad" legislation. Three cheers for UCITA. Never mind about competitive threats like Linux or FreeBSD - the publishers will cut off their own hands!
10 years ago, some manufacturers were selling 300dpi monitors (okay, not LCD and not color). Didn't find the market they wanted (obviously DTP), so I don't believe you can find one now.
CAD and medical imaging seem like similarly constrained markets, so I wonder if this'll take off or not.
1. why am I an atheist? 2. how much actual study have I done on the subject of atheism (and the proofs therein)? 3. how do I know there isn't a God? 4. how much of my belief system comes from my parents?
I suspect you're making some errors here in assuming that the bulk of atheists DON'T ask themselves these questions. But here:
1. I was born one. 2. Lots of study on atheism? Huh - I'm not aware of any canonical texts. But lots of study of other religions, yes. I don't know what "proofs" of atheism you're talking about. I don't see *proofs* of atheism, just a lack of personally compelling *proofs* for most religions. 3. Personal revelations indicating the existence of "God" haven't yet been presented to me. 4. Well. I'm an atheist. My parents aren't. Unless you're trying to argue the "atheist through rebellion" thing, I dunno what that has to do with my situation.
what I'm trying to show you, is that science/atheism is a faith as well. We don't know what happened before the big bang (science can't answer that yet), and our basis of belief is pretty close to the possibility of a God (for He could have just started it all off with the big bang, and left us on our own.
Perhaps you're under the mistaken impression that these are arguments that atheists haven't heard before?
Many religious people have thought long and hard about the existance of God...while they are the majority (religious people), I would hazard a guess that the same percentage of atheists blindly believe what they do as well...
Well, now, that's why things in religion are such a mess, aren't they? Too many willing to "hazard a guess" and run with it.
why do you want to be right so badly?
I'd say this was a good example of a "pre-emptive strike". Moderate it down, please.
Because in a CD-ROM, you'd read a pit. One-bit value. In holographic storage, that same little area that had one-bit could actually store (picking a magical number out of thin air) 32-bits, simply by adjusting the angle of read.
Has the potential for enormous increases in storage capacity. I thought most of this was clear in the article.
If I understand the article correctly, one wouldn't create a "picture" of the program per se. The article was pretty clear that adjusting the angle of one of the lasers exposes a new "track" (at least, that was my interpretation).
So, for conceptual purposes, one can imagine the device functioning much like a CD with "stacked" tracks.
I'm sorry - to clarify, I meant that the netscape INSTALLER could do anything it wanted, much in the same way AOL's installer is doing what it pleases.
I don't know about your machine, but most linux installations will have to have netscape installed as root - and so sure, netscape could do anything it wanted to lynx, kfm, etc.
I can't decide whether to despair or do a happy dance. Mozilla. Hmmm. Some thoughts.
The Case For A Happy Dance 1. M13 finally works with a proxy 2. Lots of bugs ironed out 3. Shows some real promise.Some aspects of speed are very snappy, others - well, not so. 4. A piece of code I can work on! 5. Open source aspects seem to be picking up - lots of external folks mentioned in the CVS logs. Hooray!
The Case For Despair 1. A whole team of code shuckers, plus lots and lots of outside eyeballs, and the result after (a long time - I want to say 2 years, but don't want to do the research to verify) is... well... not done, to be charitable. 2. Inscrutable code. C++ just sucks. Walk through some of the code and try, just try, and grasp some semblance of structure. It's just one damned indirect reference after another. Has C++ really helped ANY project achieve its goals easier than equivalent careful manual data abstraction in C? It's disturbing to look at this code, not the least because apparently, different committers are using different indentation styles. Yuck! 3. Incredible code bloat. Look, the whole integrated mail/news issue has been hashed out, but honestly, why not split the package into a shared library and two or three loosely integrated applications? I think it couldn't hurt but to improve stability, at least.
I suppose I gravitate towards Happy Dance, mostly on the promise of Mozilla and the honestly enormous strides this gargantuan code base has been making over the last few revs (a huge improvement on my Solaris box). I can't understand how these code meisters are keeping this beast in its pen without getting run down, but they certainly have my respect.
Regardless as to whether Apple needs to protect their "property", I find it sad that someone's (Apple's) resources are being wasted in order to pursue this issue.
First, Apple engenders bad vibes by their constant legal rumblings. I'm sure those skinz creators and others as annoyed as myself will forevermore associate Apple with warm and fluffy thoughts...um, right.
Second, Apple needs to just plow on and concentrate on bringing good product to market. I'd hardly call a theme a major asset that deserves to be protected by legal bullying.
Stephanie has some interesting intrusion detection methods. Rather than looking at signatures of data presented in an attack, her approach analyzes sequences of system calls used and compares those sequences against known "correct" behavior (for that particular program). It's strongly based on the genetic notion of self. Surprisingly good results with few false positives. But don't take my word for it - go to her site and read the white papers!
Being professional's a two-way street. If Rob seems a little pissy-boo, well, who can blame him given the ungrateful wankers yip-yapping for the code they have a "right" to?
Hmmpph, is it just my own myopic vision, or does the XFree86 project seem to be the only organization actually DOING something new with X?
Sun's basically dropped the ball at X11R5 and The Beast That Is CDE, HP does - well, nothing, so far as I can tell. Digital is effectively in the midst of death shudders under the Loving Hand of Compaq, IBM - look, who else is actually rolling out new servers and working on X?
The members of X.org ought to pony up to XFree86's bar, and get X going again (and thus, their own miserable stinking excuses for Unices, May the Hand of the Moderator be Gentle).
You make a good point - X has got some serious problems. I think that pushing stuff like DGA or (what was that other thing? GGI?) seems a better idea than just scrapping X altogether and Doing It Right, because I don't think the Collective Mind of Unix can support such a fragmenting action.
There's already enough banter about fragmentation of the desktop what with Gnome and KDE and some other distant also-rans. I would think that scrapping X would merely serve to dilute Our (Unix Community, here) Application Base.
An interesting example that I personally had the "fortune" to witness. A bit back, I was moonlightning, doing some web work for a high-end networking company. One of the pieces I was asked to convert and put on the web had an interesting graph showing performance curves for a particular product on different architectures.
Now, the product in question was a PCI network board, yet one of the performance curves was prominently labeled "SGI Indigo 2 R4400".
Ummm... the Indigo 2 doesn't have any PCI slots, it's EISA or GIO or nothin'. Thinking somebody just pasted the wrong graphic into the press-release, I read the copy - nope, mentions the Indigo 2. They were ready to run with this until I waved my hands repeatedly in front of them.
Shortly thereafter, the CEO asked if I could possibly work directly in their marketing dept, as they needed someone with a tech background (ah-yup!). I couldn't help but tell the guy that I couldn't stomach working a job where my main function was to lie to my customers. He thought that was pretty funny, and had a good laugh...
While I agree with your sentiments about mozilla, that "open bug list" is NOT the definitive "open bug list". Your query to bugzilla is "New, Assigned, and [something else]". The fixed bug list is truly impressive, but there aren't just three bugs open as your link would have us believe.
Matrix as a revolutionary movie? What was revolutionary about it?
The effects? [no] The storyline? [no - a rehash of Terminator] Stunning acting? [you know, the absolute best acting in the matrix was the Oracle.] Brilliant dialog? [heck no!]
I enjoyed the movie, a little, mostly for the industrial soundtrack and I thought the fight scenes were interesting (in that I'm pretty sure Keaneau et al weren't fighting them, but were virtual actors - didn't see the DVD with the Making Of, so someone clue me). Seemed pretty pale second time through, though...
Well, THIS has certainly been an interesting article. Let's set aside notions of "true" or "false" in this regard, and just think about the value of FUD as an agent against MS.
MS certainly has engaged in FUD-slinging against (your favorite MS adversary here). Could FUD be used effectively against them? HAS FUD been used effectively against them?
Tangent: And supposing that the MS stock bubble burst (my read of the immediate effect of well-received FUD), would the stock of the entire tech sector plunge with it?
More questions than answers, but it's an interesting mind puzzle...
Okay, I did it, I suffered through the "9 Greatest hacks of all time" [puh-leaze], only to get this payoff on the last page:
Real-world hackers--despite their posturing, bluster, talents, and occasional good intentions--couldn't hope to get within a thousand yards of Meg Ryan. The closest they can aspire to is hacking the In ternet Movie Database.
But the social life of hackers aside...
How nice. Looks like CNET's been taken over by Weekly World News.
The only thing I learned from MS products is that if I do some (series of) incredibly inane things that make no sense at all, I will probably only have to reinstall tomorrow rather than immediately.
Oh, and that if I want to change something like, say, my screen resolution, I must restart my computer.
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Okay, let's *not* talk about what Mozilla WILL be. Let's talk about what Mozilla IS. For me, it:
renders so far every site that I regularly visit perfectly
loads HTML pages noticeably faster than Netscape, especially pages with tables used for layout.
is slower at some things than Netscape (pg-up /pg-down)
has some focus problems
is more stable than previous Mozillas. Netscape doesn't often crash on me (SuSE Linux), but it does occasionally get confused (pages refuse to display).
has a solution: if I don't like a feature - just stop bitching and fix it.
The problems the Mozilla project has have been well-hashed out by this particular audience, but Mozilla *is* improving. I resolve to use it until I can't. Thanks, Mozilla developers.
This assumes that information SHOULD be thrown away. I'm not interested in becoming a pack rat, I already have enough "stuff" to keep track of, thanks. I suppose I'm just not all that interested in making my information, no matter how trivial, available to future archaelogists.
Once upon a time, there were two cute little NeXTStations, point & click. point nfs-mounted large portions of click, and click nfs-mounted some portions of point. Together, they shared a NeXT printer and served a happy community of CSitizens.
point & click ran. point & click ran happily. point & click never ever went down. point & click got forgotten several times during major CS-department wide outages (DNS server lunched or replaced, network equipment died). point & click recorded uptimes of 700 days apiece before they were finally shuttled away as "old, obsolete equipment".
I've never seen anything as stable as these machines. They just plain worked.
So to get back to your question about OS X being more stable than OS 8/9, I'd have to say that, if past history is an indicator, OS X will be a real winner. Here's hoping!
Consumers aren't stupid. Heavy handed use of UCITA provisions will encourage customers to shop around for more friendly products (and companies, and non-companies). That "Linux preinstalled" option will start to sound better and better, so long as the GPL holds up against legal challenge.
I think this bill stands a very good chance of hurting the very publishers who are promalgating this "bad" legislation. Three cheers for UCITA. Never mind about competitive threats like Linux or FreeBSD - the publishers will cut off their own hands!
Here's hoping.
CAD and medical imaging seem like similarly constrained markets, so I wonder if this'll take off or not.
2. how much actual study have I done on the subject of atheism (and the proofs therein)?
3. how do I know there isn't a God?
4. how much of my belief system comes from my parents?
I suspect you're making some errors here in assuming that the bulk of atheists DON'T ask themselves these questions. But here:
1. I was born one.
2. Lots of study on atheism? Huh - I'm not aware of any canonical texts. But lots of study of other religions, yes. I don't know what "proofs" of atheism you're talking about. I don't see *proofs* of atheism, just a lack of personally compelling *proofs* for most religions.
3. Personal revelations indicating the existence of "God" haven't yet been presented to me.
4. Well. I'm an atheist. My parents aren't. Unless you're trying to argue the "atheist through rebellion" thing, I dunno what that has to do with my situation.
what I'm trying to show you, is that science/atheism is a faith as well. We don't know what happened before the big bang (science can't answer that yet), and our basis of belief is pretty close to the possibility of a God (for He could have just started it all off with the big bang, and left us on our own.
Perhaps you're under the mistaken impression that these are arguments that atheists haven't heard before?
Many religious people have thought long and hard about the existance of God...while they are the majority (religious people), I would hazard a guess that the same percentage of atheists blindly believe what they do as well...
Well, now, that's why things in religion are such a mess, aren't they? Too many willing to "hazard a guess" and run with it.
why do you want to be right so badly?
I'd say this was a good example of a "pre-emptive strike". Moderate it down, please.
Has the potential for enormous increases in storage capacity. I thought most of this was clear in the article.
So, for conceptual purposes, one can imagine the device functioning much like a CD with "stacked" tracks.
Humans are pretty damn ingenious.
I'm sorry - to clarify, I meant that the netscape INSTALLER could do anything it wanted, much in the same way AOL's installer is doing what it pleases.
I don't know about your machine, but most linux installations will have to have netscape installed as root - and so sure, netscape could do anything it wanted to lynx, kfm, etc.
The Case For A Happy Dance
1. M13 finally works with a proxy
2. Lots of bugs ironed out
3. Shows some real promise.Some aspects of speed are very snappy, others - well, not so.
4. A piece of code I can work on!
5. Open source aspects seem to be picking up - lots of external folks mentioned in the CVS logs. Hooray!
The Case For Despair ... well ... not done, to be charitable.
1. A whole team of code shuckers, plus lots and lots of outside eyeballs, and the result after (a long time - I want to say 2 years, but don't want to do the research to verify) is
2. Inscrutable code. C++ just sucks. Walk through some of the code and try, just try, and grasp some semblance of structure. It's just one damned indirect reference after another. Has C++ really helped ANY project achieve its goals easier than equivalent careful manual data abstraction in C? It's disturbing to look at this code, not the least because apparently, different committers are using different indentation styles. Yuck!
3. Incredible code bloat. Look, the whole integrated mail/news issue has been hashed out, but honestly, why not split the package into a shared library and two or three loosely integrated applications? I think it couldn't hurt but to improve stability, at least.
I suppose I gravitate towards Happy Dance, mostly on the promise of Mozilla and the honestly enormous strides this gargantuan code base has been making over the last few revs (a huge improvement on my Solaris box). I can't understand how these code meisters are keeping this beast in its pen without getting run down, but they certainly have my respect.
First, Apple engenders bad vibes by their constant legal rumblings. I'm sure those skinz creators and others as annoyed as myself will forevermore associate Apple with warm and fluffy thoughts...um, right.
Second, Apple needs to just plow on and concentrate on bringing good product to market. I'd hardly call a theme a major asset that deserves to be protected by legal bullying.
Being professional's a two-way street. If Rob seems a little pissy-boo, well, who can blame him given the ungrateful wankers yip-yapping for the code they have a "right" to?
Come on, please stop with the extrapolations - I'm no OSS bigot. I do see that you're right about Sun - should've done a 'man Xsun' before posting.
Sun's basically dropped the ball at X11R5 and The Beast That Is CDE, HP does - well, nothing, so far as I can tell. Digital is effectively in the midst of death shudders under the Loving Hand of Compaq, IBM - look, who else is actually rolling out new servers and working on X?
The members of X.org ought to pony up to XFree86's bar, and get X going again (and thus, their own miserable stinking excuses for Unices, May the Hand of the Moderator be Gentle).
There's already enough banter about fragmentation of the desktop what with Gnome and KDE and some other distant also-rans. I would think that scrapping X would merely serve to dilute Our (Unix Community, here) Application Base.
Now, the product in question was a PCI network board, yet one of the performance curves was prominently labeled "SGI Indigo 2 R4400".
Ummm... the Indigo 2 doesn't have any PCI slots, it's EISA or GIO or nothin'. Thinking somebody just pasted the wrong graphic into the press-release, I read the copy - nope, mentions the Indigo 2. They were ready to run with this until I waved my hands repeatedly in front of them.
Shortly thereafter, the CEO asked if I could possibly work directly in their marketing dept, as they needed someone with a tech background (ah-yup!). I couldn't help but tell the guy that I couldn't stomach working a job where my main function was to lie to my customers. He thought that was pretty funny, and had a good laugh...
While I agree with your sentiments about mozilla, that "open bug list" is NOT the definitive "open bug list". Your query to bugzilla is "New, Assigned, and [something else]". The fixed bug list is truly impressive, but there aren't just three bugs open as your link would have us believe.
I think the Boy Scouts of America should stick to tying knots.
The effects? [no]
The storyline? [no - a rehash of Terminator]
Stunning acting? [you know, the absolute best acting in the matrix was the Oracle.]
Brilliant dialog? [heck no!]
I enjoyed the movie, a little, mostly for the industrial soundtrack and I thought the fight scenes were interesting (in that I'm pretty sure Keaneau et al weren't fighting them, but were virtual actors - didn't see the DVD with the Making Of, so someone clue me). Seemed pretty pale second time through, though...
MS certainly has engaged in FUD-slinging against (your favorite MS adversary here). Could FUD be used effectively against them? HAS FUD been used effectively against them?
Tangent: And supposing that the MS stock bubble burst (my read of the immediate effect of well-received FUD), would the stock of the entire tech sector plunge with it?
More questions than answers, but it's an interesting mind puzzle...
Real-world hackers--despite their posturing, bluster, talents, and occasional good intentions--couldn't hope to get within a thousand yards of Meg Ryan. The closest they can aspire to is hacking the In ternet Movie Database.
But the social life of hackers aside...
How nice. Looks like CNET's been taken over by Weekly World News.
Where's the news in this?
Oh, and that if I want to change something like, say, my screen resolution, I must restart my computer.