Well, you do deserve a couple of funny mods, if I had one I'd give it to ya. Well, I suppose not since I already posted.
Never the less. I was really just being polite. I don't think solving the cube quickly is interesting at all. I only think the cube is interesting in any sense because it lends insight into group theory. Developing theorems and proving them takes work and has depth. Twiddling the puzzle quickly is a bit like masturbation, it has its own reward but there's nothing particularly special about each event and it doesn't take much of a skill set to achive the desired result.
While just solving the cube quickly may be interesting. I think it's far more interesting that the cube movements can be thought of elements of a subgroup of a very large permutation group, S48 to be precise. If you have some math background and like abstract things you might want to take a look at Adventures in Group Theory : Rubik's Cube, Merlin's Machine, and Other Mathematical Toys which, despite the title is a fairly serious little math book.
There's no need to launch all of it at the same time. In fact, why not just launch a big empty ship that can go around gathering up all the heaviest old satellites, e.g. hubble, that have been all used up and stuff them in the hold.
You could borrow an idea from salvage one and use the space left over from the spent fuel as the hold.
"But I agree, if religion bothers you, stay away from the heart of America (which is not only Utah, but pretty much everywhere outside the dense urban areas of the United States)"
What does "the heart of america" nonsense really mean? Do you mean rural america or are you trying to lay claim to being a part of some moral majority? Did the founding fathers label some particular part of the United States as the heart and other parts as some other kind of body part? I think you've been watching to many chevrolet advertisments.
One thing's for certain; nobody is labeling rural america as the "brain of america", and with kansas on your side, that's not likely to change anytime soon.
If you had read the opinion you would know that Krause 1) wrote the code in Clipper which for latecomers to the computer scene was a dbase compatible database system from the late eighties early nineties, and 2) knew that TitleServ had backup tapes so deleting the code would have been a pointless gesture.
I've seen this happen a lot. Someone gets a gig and is careless about leaving source code lying around. Later they figure out that they might be able to sell their code to someone else, or that their relationship with the company is going to change, and realize that they should have been more careful in distributing source code.
However the complaint involves not only the source code but executable only code as well. His choice of languge, clipper, allowed TitlServ to eventually decompile the executable only applications to which they didn't have source code. I suspect this is at the heart of Krause's complaint. Even if he realized too late that he left some source behind he probably felt at least with the two programs he was careful with that they would have to contract with him for more work or to bend over to get the source code. Today that might be a DMCA violation, but in days gone by, simply decompiling a program to make changes to it was not necessarily any sort of civil or criminal offense.
If you're contracting for someone it's best to get this sort of thing in writing up front.
"The year after I graduated, the school got a new Dean who was previously an administrator at one of Indianapolis' inner city schools. One student got jugged (Catholic school term for after school detention) for passing the dean on the highway. The dean recognized the person and car."
Are you suggesting that the dean assumed that the student was speeding or improperly passing? Or was this just a case of the dean's pride being hurt?
"Submit three letters of recommendation. Recommenders should know you relatively well and be able to evaluate the quality of your previous work. At least two should be from faculty or recent employers. With the online application, letters will be requested and submitted electronically. Letters of recommendation are due by January 3. All deadlines are final. Letters received after this date may not be considered in the review of your application."
As I've said, most require two or three. I've never heard of a program which reqires more than that.
It may seem trivial, but one of the problems of going it without a degree is knowing what to read and having the math skill to read it. You need to know what's in a CS program, what books they use, and which math courses are taken before you read those books as well as in what order the CS classes are taken. People don't usually find those things out until they're trying to map out their degree. So if you are doing it by yourself you will end up putting a lot of books down or not ever picking them up because they are too hard to read or the title just doesn't catch your eye at barnes and noble.
I mean, how sexy is that dover book on discrete math over in the math section compared to "power tips for C++ programmers". If you're self taught and don't have the math background how much do you REALLY get out of the knuth deskset?
Has it occurred to anyone else that Google is only pretending to be nice? Maybe it's really a secret IBM project, after all, they're probably still mad about OS2. The future could be dark, very dark indeed.
The "island" services were expensive and really nothing more than national bulletin boards. The mistake they made was simply not providing good access to the internet quickly enough. They all had the infrastructure but simply didn't react quickly enough to demand. AOL would have went the way of the dodo too but they must have got some great deal on bulky floppy disks cause they sent out a shitload of them and managed to save themselves.
I have some bad news for you. Your mission critical software has errors. Maybe not quite as many as some "less mission critical software", but it has errors.
BTW: It isn't just guesswork that reduces errors. If you have formally proven your systems, (which I'm quite sure you have right?) then they are correct. It isn't necessary for the implementer really to be sober as long as you have a formal proof and others, including yourself with your pristine substance free (no sugar right) body, can check the proof. Going from a provably correct system to real code is pretty easy work what with all those nice tight pre/post conditions an all.
Oh, and of course you only use compilers that are subjected to similar standards, right?
And please don't tell me any of this runs on windows, none of it runs on windows, right? I bet you're only solid mission critical operating systems that have had every line of code checked and double checked against a formal system? Right?
After all, we wouldn't want the software with bugs. It has to be as good as the rest of the airplane, bug free, nothing will fail, nothing has been overlooked, the design is PERFECT!!!
Reminds of that accident that happened sometime in the late eighties/early nineties where an airplane toilet had its contents jetisoned while still in flight and the frozen contents came crashing into someone's living room. The victim was quoted as saying "Of course it surprised me, the last thing I expect to come crashing into my house in this day and age is an icy BM."
What that really means is that enough people will pay $2.50 for them, that at that price profit is maximized.
I think that it's naive to say "nobody knows if X > Y". It's almost certainly true that, in fact, Y > X. That's not the question you want to ask. If we let P be the profit at $2.50 and R be the profit at $0.50 then we want to ask is PX > RY.
It is possible to estimate how many you will sell at some price and use that to determine a price by maximizing profit. This can be done to a certain degree of accuracy such that while it might seem arbitrary, it's most likely not.
My point isn't that we know the answer, only that adding god doesn't provide any information. One can then rephrase the question replacing the Big Bang with god. To say god has always existed and transcends time is equivalent to saying the pre big-bang universe always existed and transcends time. Any statement you make about god's involvement is equally correct without god's involvement. Thus, as I have already stated, god adds nothing to the statement. It just makes you feel better.
Seriously, this is a philosophy of religion 101 kind of question. Religious scholars don't resort to your kind of reasoning. You need a stronger argument than "we don't know, therefore it must be god".
"Science has never answered that question, and probably never will."
"Troll is an over used moderation, don't mod it a troll because you disagree."
I agree, that's what overrated is for. Watch, someone will mod this down as overrated even though it's not even rated. It's a two because my karma is rockin, not because someone modded it up.
But I never worry about the mods. I'm a virtual fountain of insightfulness and funny. They may get one or two, but I come back swinging.
I dunno, maybe those whacky brits are onto something...I'm guessing those women might know of a couple of places where they might tuck stuff away.
By: Ivor Biggun & the D Cups
Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five
Well I went out for a boogie, a week ago last Tuesday I was doing the Wiggin Hustle and the Palais Glide I met a girl in big suspenders and her boswams were stupendous Like two bald-headed men sitting side by side
She wore a bra size forty-five, and she could jump and jive And when she stopped dancing, bits of her kept wobbling about She said you drive me crazy, burn some rubber on me Baby She grabbed my little whistle and she began to shout...
Hit me with your rhythm stick, Hit me, Hit me Je t'adore, Ich liebe Dich, Hit me, Hit me, Hit me Hit me with your rhythm stick, I'm six feet tall and five feet thick Hit me, Hit me, Hit me...
Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five
I couldn't do nothing but stand and stare, she gave me a hug like a grizzly bear I couldn't see much, I thought I was dead, I had boobs upside my head Boobs upside my head, boobs upside my head
Oh what a front she had, enough for me, my brother and Dad A chest of drawers no doubt, one with the top drawer half pulled out Oh what a front she'd got, believe me son, she's got the lot Right before my eyes, and she was bra size forty-five
Erm, excuse me, what do I do now? Man be cool - gotta get down and have a rap I beg your pardon? I think I'll do a talking bit instead...
She was the big economy size, her boswams were gigantic Like two fat little boys, wrestling under a blanket The flickering strobes lit up the globes that thrust from her pullover I think her name was June 'cause she was busting out all over
She said, "Can you feel the force, do y'wanna take one step beyond?" I said, "Goodness gracious great balls of fire, there's a whole lotta shaking going on" She said, "Knock on wood, I'll blame it on the boogie, now what do ya think about that?" I said, "Ooh heck, it must be jelly, because jam don't shake like that"
Not so much of the night fever, more like a belt with a tire lever She was not at all pendulous, in fact she was tremendulous!
Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five
She wore a bra size forty-five, and when they played "I will survive"
She went crackers, and her animal desires became much keener
She said "John I'm only dancing, but I'd rather be romancing"
She had me inside out and upside down in the back of my Cortina
Hit me with your rhythm stick...
And there in my car, the windows all steamed, and my throat on her chin
She let it all hang out in bras (size forty-five)
And there in my car, I thought "this is it", an instant replay,
My foot out the window in bras (size forty-five)
Oo-rah, Oo-rah, Oo-rah, ay,
Over the hills and now I'm on my way
I got out my tent pole and shooter
Oo-rah, Oo-rah, Oo-rah, ay,
Over the hills and now I'm on my way
Come on, let's do the Bristol Stomp
She wore a bra size forty-five, I thought I never would revive
When I tackled that young lady with the bounciest of blouses
But she left me for a geezer who had much more chance to please her
With his own master blaster and a pair of baggy trousers
Oh what fun they had...
Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five
I agree. It is reasonable to look at the body of evidence and conclude that it's unlikely that such a being exists. It's even easier to consider any modern religion's notion of god as not existing as almost all religions impose contradictory properties on their deities.
Is it at least 2.5 times as good as iTunes? Since when did music become like crack that we have to have it so bad that we'll pay $2.50 to hear it on a crappy sprint speaker? When I was a kid the best you could hope for was that there were some stickers in the album (dark side of the moon) that you could stare at until you got home to play your new record.
Re:One of these things is not like the other...
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There is no flaw, you just don't understand the argument.
ID is not presented as christianty, so consistency with christianty does not add anything to its value.
ID is presented as science, hence, it's perfectly valid to criticize it only on its scientific merit.
Nothing was said about the correctness of either idea. One has been scrutinized by science for over a century, the other has not. One has had thousands if not millions of man hours dedicated to understanding the subleties of its implications with the results scrutinzed and deliberated over in the scientific literature, the other has not. Therefore, regardless of the correctness of either idea, they have a property, namely, their history, that is significantly different. Hence, one of these things, is NOT like the other.
"God started the Big Bang. And He directed evolution, molding the world like a sculptor molds a statue. With God involved, mankind is not an accident; God created us on purpose, regardless of the exact way He did so. Otherwise, we are just a random cosmic accident, much like the duckbilled platypus."
You mean the flying sphagetti monster molded the world like a big meatball, right?
Spare me the quaint religion lesson, I think you missed my point. God isn't necessary in your argument. If you accept the big bang and evolution then you don't need god. We ARE just a random cosmic accident, and despite how much it might offend you, the only meaning to life is to eat shit and screw...and post on slashdot.
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Well, you do deserve a couple of funny mods, if I had one I'd give it to ya. Well, I suppose not since I already posted.
Never the less. I was really just being polite. I don't think solving the cube quickly is interesting at all. I only think the cube is interesting in any sense because it lends insight into group theory. Developing theorems and proving them takes work and has depth. Twiddling the puzzle quickly is a bit like masturbation, it has its own reward but there's nothing particularly special about each event and it doesn't take much of a skill set to achive the desired result.
While just solving the cube quickly may be interesting. I think it's far more interesting that the cube movements can be thought of elements of a subgroup of a very large permutation group, S48 to be precise. If you have some math background and like abstract things you might want to take a look at Adventures in Group Theory : Rubik's Cube, Merlin's Machine, and Other Mathematical Toys which, despite the title is a fairly serious little math book.
There's no need to launch all of it at the same time. In fact, why not just launch a big empty ship that can go around gathering up all the heaviest old satellites, e.g. hubble, that have been all used up and stuff them in the hold.
You could borrow an idea from salvage one and use the space left over from the spent fuel as the hold.
I just say no to DRM, it doesn't get any simpler.
"But I agree, if religion bothers you, stay away from the heart of America (which is not only Utah, but pretty much everywhere outside the dense urban areas of the United States)"
What does "the heart of america" nonsense really mean? Do you mean rural america or are you trying to lay claim to being a part of some moral majority? Did the founding fathers label some particular part of the United States as the heart and other parts as some other kind of body part? I think you've been watching to many chevrolet advertisments.
One thing's for certain; nobody is labeling rural america as the "brain of america", and with kansas on your side, that's not likely to change anytime soon.
If you had read the opinion you would know that Krause 1) wrote the code in Clipper which for latecomers to the computer scene was a dbase compatible database system from the late eighties early nineties, and 2) knew that TitleServ had backup tapes so deleting the code would have been a pointless gesture.
I've seen this happen a lot. Someone gets a gig and is careless about leaving source code lying around. Later they figure out that they might be able to sell their code to someone else, or that their relationship with the company is going to change, and realize that they should have been more careful in distributing source code.
However the complaint involves not only the source code but executable only code as well. His choice of languge, clipper, allowed TitlServ to eventually decompile the executable only applications to which they didn't have source code. I suspect this is at the heart of Krause's complaint. Even if he realized too late that he left some source behind he probably felt at least with the two programs he was careful with that they would have to contract with him for more work or to bend over to get the source code. Today that might be a DMCA violation, but in days gone by, simply decompiling a program to make changes to it was not necessarily any sort of civil or criminal offense.
If you're contracting for someone it's best to get this sort of thing in writing up front.
ymmv.
"The year after I graduated, the school got a new Dean who was previously an administrator at one of Indianapolis' inner city schools. One student got jugged (Catholic school term for after school detention) for passing the dean on the highway. The dean recognized the person and car."
Are you suggesting that the dean assumed that the student was speeding or improperly passing? Or was this just a case of the dean's pride being hurt?
From the CMU Phd in computer science application page.
"Submit three letters of recommendation. Recommenders should know you relatively well and be able to evaluate the quality of your previous work. At least two should be from faculty or recent employers. With the online application, letters will be requested and submitted electronically. Letters of recommendation are due by January 3. All deadlines are final. Letters received after this date may not be considered in the review of your application."
As I've said, most require two or three. I've never heard of a program which reqires more than that.
It may seem trivial, but one of the problems of going it without a degree is knowing what to read and having the math skill to read it. You need to know what's in a CS program, what books they use, and which math courses are taken before you read those books as well as in what order the CS classes are taken. People don't usually find those things out until they're trying to map out their degree. So if you are doing it by yourself you will end up putting a lot of books down or not ever picking them up because they are too hard to read or the title just doesn't catch your eye at barnes and noble.
I mean, how sexy is that dover book on discrete math over in the math section compared to "power tips for C++ programmers". If you're self taught and don't have the math background how much do you REALLY get out of the knuth deskset?
Has it occurred to anyone else that Google is only pretending to be nice? Maybe it's really a secret IBM project, after all, they're probably still mad about OS2. The future could be dark, very dark indeed.
The "island" services were expensive and really nothing more than national bulletin boards. The mistake they made was simply not providing good access to the internet quickly enough. They all had the infrastructure but simply didn't react quickly enough to demand. AOL would have went the way of the dodo too but they must have got some great deal on bulky floppy disks cause they sent out a shitload of them and managed to save themselves.
Huh?
Most want three, some only two. Where did you apply to grad school?
I have some bad news for you. Your mission critical software has errors. Maybe not quite as many as some "less mission critical software", but it has errors.
BTW: It isn't just guesswork that reduces errors. If you have formally proven your systems, (which I'm quite sure you have right?) then they are correct. It isn't necessary for the implementer really to be sober as long as you have a formal proof and others, including yourself with your pristine substance free (no sugar right) body, can check the proof. Going from a provably correct system to real code is pretty easy work what with all those nice tight pre/post conditions an all.
Oh, and of course you only use compilers that are subjected to similar standards, right?
And please don't tell me any of this runs on windows, none of it runs on windows, right? I bet you're only solid mission critical operating systems that have had every line of code checked and double checked against a formal system? Right?
After all, we wouldn't want the software with bugs. It has to be as good as the rest of the airplane, bug free, nothing will fail, nothing has been overlooked, the design is PERFECT!!!
Reminds of that accident that happened sometime in the late eighties/early nineties where an airplane toilet had its contents jetisoned while still in flight and the frozen contents came crashing into someone's living room. The victim was quoted as saying "Of course it surprised me, the last thing I expect to come crashing into my house in this day and age is an icy BM."
What that really means is that enough people will pay $2.50 for them, that at that price profit is maximized.
I think that it's naive to say "nobody knows if X > Y". It's almost certainly true that, in fact, Y > X. That's not the question you want to ask. If we let P be the profit at $2.50 and R be the profit at $0.50 then we want to ask is PX > RY.
It is possible to estimate how many you will sell at some price and use that to determine a price by maximizing profit. This can be done to a certain degree of accuracy such that while it might seem arbitrary, it's most likely not.
"What started the Big Bang?
My point isn't that we know the answer, only that adding god doesn't provide any information. One can then rephrase the question replacing the Big Bang with god. To say god has always existed and transcends time is equivalent to saying the pre big-bang universe always existed and transcends time. Any statement you make about god's involvement is equally correct without god's involvement. Thus, as I have already stated, god adds nothing to the statement. It just makes you feel better.
Seriously, this is a philosophy of religion 101 kind of question. Religious scholars don't resort to your kind of reasoning. You need a stronger argument than "we don't know, therefore it must be god".
"Science has never answered that question, and probably never will."
That's your opinion.
"Troll is an over used moderation, don't mod it a troll because you disagree."
I agree, that's what overrated is for. Watch, someone will mod this down as overrated even though it's not even rated. It's a two because my karma is rockin, not because someone modded it up.
But I never worry about the mods. I'm a virtual fountain of insightfulness and funny. They may get one or two, but I come back swinging.
I dunno, maybe those whacky brits are onto something...I'm guessing those women might know of a couple of places where they might tuck stuff away.
By: Ivor Biggun & the D Cups
Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five
Well I went out for a boogie, a week ago last Tuesday I was doing the Wiggin Hustle and the Palais Glide
I met a girl in big suspenders and her boswams were stupendous Like two bald-headed men sitting side by side
She wore a bra size forty-five, and she could jump and jive And when she stopped dancing, bits of her kept wobbling about
She said you drive me crazy, burn some rubber on me Baby She grabbed my little whistle and she began to shout...
Hit me with your rhythm stick, Hit me, Hit me Je t'adore, Ich liebe Dich, Hit me, Hit me,
Hit me Hit me with your rhythm stick, I'm six feet tall and five feet thick Hit me, Hit me, Hit me...
Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five
I couldn't do nothing but stand and stare, she gave me a hug like a grizzly bear
I couldn't see much, I thought I was dead, I had boobs upside my head Boobs upside my head, boobs upside my head
Oh what a front she had, enough for me, my brother and Dad A chest of drawers no doubt, one with the top drawer half pulled out
Oh what a front she'd got, believe me son, she's got the lot Right before my eyes, and she was bra size forty-five
Erm, excuse me, what do I do now? Man be cool - gotta get down and have a rap
I beg your pardon? I think I'll do a talking bit instead...
She was the big economy size, her boswams were gigantic Like two fat little boys, wrestling under a blanket
The flickering strobes lit up the globes that thrust from her pullover I think her name was June 'cause she was busting out all over
She said, "Can you feel the force, do y'wanna take one step beyond?" I said, "Goodness gracious great balls of fire, there's a whole lotta shaking going on"
She said, "Knock on wood, I'll blame it on the boogie, now what do ya think about that?" I said, "Ooh heck, it must be jelly, because jam don't shake like that"
Not so much of the night fever, more like a belt with a tire lever She was not at all pendulous, in fact she was tremendulous!
Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five
She wore a bra size forty-five, and when they played "I will survive"
She went crackers, and her animal desires became much keener
She said "John I'm only dancing, but I'd rather be romancing"
She had me inside out and upside down in the back of my Cortina
Hit me with your rhythm stick...
And there in my car, the windows all steamed, and my throat on her chin
She let it all hang out in bras (size forty-five)
And there in my car, I thought "this is it", an instant replay,
My foot out the window in bras (size forty-five)
Oo-rah, Oo-rah, Oo-rah, ay,
Over the hills and now I'm on my way
I got out my tent pole and shooter
Oo-rah, Oo-rah, Oo-rah, ay,
Over the hills and now I'm on my way
Come on, let's do the Bristol Stomp
She wore a bra size forty-five, I thought I never would revive
When I tackled that young lady with the bounciest of blouses
But she left me for a geezer who had much more chance to please her
With his own master blaster and a pair of baggy trousers
Oh what fun they had...
Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five, Bra size forty-five
I agree. It is reasonable to look at the body of evidence and conclude that it's unlikely that such a being exists. It's even easier to consider any modern religion's notion of god as not existing as almost all religions impose contradictory properties on their deities.
Is it at least 2.5 times as good as iTunes? Since when did music become like crack that we have to have it so bad that we'll pay $2.50 to hear it on a crappy sprint speaker? When I was a kid the best you could hope for was that there were some stickers in the album (dark side of the moon) that you could stare at until you got home to play your new record.
There is no flaw, you just don't understand the argument.
ID is not presented as christianty, so consistency with christianty does not add anything to its value.
ID is presented as science, hence, it's perfectly valid to criticize it only on its scientific merit.
Nothing was said about the correctness of either idea. One has been scrutinized by science for over a century, the other has not. One has had thousands if not millions of man hours dedicated to understanding the subleties of its implications with the results scrutinzed and deliberated over in the scientific literature, the other has not. Therefore, regardless of the correctness of either idea, they have a property, namely, their history, that is significantly different. Hence, one of these things, is NOT like the other.
I'm sure of it now, see, this guy is licking his lips but he's NOT SURE if the object of his affections is a girl because she's lost her G tag.
Well, at least this guy thought so. I think in this photo the G indicates that this is a girl.
"while a 30-second clip on my cell phone (through spring) is $2.50 and deletes itself after 90-days"
Because that's what the market will bear! I just can't imagine what satisfaction one gets from buying a ring tone.
"God started the Big Bang. And He directed evolution, molding the world like a sculptor molds a statue. With God involved, mankind is not an accident; God created us on purpose, regardless of the exact way He did so. Otherwise, we are just a random cosmic accident, much like the duckbilled platypus."
You mean the flying sphagetti monster molded the world like a big meatball, right?
Spare me the quaint religion lesson, I think you missed my point. God isn't necessary in your argument. If you accept the big bang and evolution then you don't need god. We ARE just a random cosmic accident, and despite how much it might offend you, the only meaning to life is to eat shit and screw...and post on slashdot.
"gp is quoting aristotle, parent is throwing "your mom" jokes around. if this ain't trolling i dunno what is."
Haha, nice try darkman. It's too late, you can't reverse the karma.
BTW: Have you ever read Arthur Schopenhauer's Art of Controversy? I believe quoting aristotle is one of the techniques. Well, it's pretty damn close.
At any rate, as the mods have repeatedly demonstrated to you, quoting aristotle in the middle of a temper tantrum does not make you clever.