Slashdot didn't go to court to get this story, Wired News did. The fact that Wired had to file a federal lawsuit to get the information regarding a massive computer failure involving border, national, and homeland security, and that a coverup was attempted, is worthy of film at 6, 10, and 11.
Let's give this system to Iran, then we can avoid a war in August
That's rather interesting. This is offtopic, but I'm curious as to what software/system the Iranians are using in their government. If there's a significant Microsoft implementation, I kind of would feel safer. Nuclear technology is very risky, and if they've got any failsafes depending on Microsoft technology (blackmarketed or licensed) they might end up with a massive nuclear disaster of there own making, like the Mayak disaster in the Soviet Union.
No kidding. Using Windows garbage for any Homeland Security tasks means that every Windows vulnerability (and there are many, many, many of them) becomes a National Security vulnerability. That's a fact, PERIOD. That the clowns responsible for the safety of the citizens of the US think that Windows is suitable for Homeland Security applications shows they are more concerned with protecting Microsoft's profits than protecting our families.
Fly some airplanes into skyscrapers. Now I know why the 9/11 terrorists went to Florida to reside and prepare for the attack.
The fact that Florida never stopped providing the perfect data for ID theives is really challenges any notion that Homeland Security is coordinating anything with the states, or that they are competent in anything at all.
Yeah, because of your governments' outrageously high taxes on gasoline. You pay more in taxes than the fuel itself costs.
...but you don't even have proper public transportation where you could.
More bullshit. Every city in the US has public transportation.
...last time I was there we bought some stuff in a grocery, and the plastic bags were completely unsuited for carrying. They were barely usable enough to get them out to your car in the parking lot.
Congratulations, you just achieved Ultra Bullshit level. When given a choice, most people choose the plastic bags precisely because they are easier to carry from the store to the home door. And what were you doing with a car, anyway?
So if you're stuck in a corner, I'd say that's because you're painting yourself in there.
No, we drove ourselves out of the corner that you put yourself into, because we didn't like the condescending, full of shit whiners who sit in that corner. Those whiners resent the US because we didn't accept the restrictions on our mobility in the past and as the challenges of the future mount, we'll face them too. So don't put your shit on us, we're getting tired of hearing it.
Other countries cope, if you can't you need to blame something else than geography.
We're coping just fine, thanks. You just keep sitting in that corner waiting for the bus and telling yourself, "we are better, we are better, we are better," instead of "if I were in America, I'd have been there 3 and a half hours ago."
QUESTION: Will all.NETs run on Vista?
ANSWER: Probably not, depending on the version of the Microsoft.NET you want to run, even though the answer to the first question implies there's no.NETs to choose from.
QUESTION: Will.NET run on linux, or will MS decide to litigate MONO and others out of existence?
ANSWER: Only if Microsoft wants to, but don't worry because you can trust Microsoft.
QUESTION: Will MS change license terms again, making it illegal to run.NET on anything but MS licensed systems?
ANSWER: Microsoft can do this, and should, because all non-MS licensed systems are pirate systems. But don't worry, because the Microsoft run-time EULA for.NET doesn't apply to Mono (unless they change it like you asked).
QUESTION*: Will MS patches and updates applied to MS systems?
ANSWER: What's that got to do with.NET?
* -- The question was malformed in it's original post.
Regarding the ECMA, you say, "anybody is free to implement the ECMA standards (see Mono)," but don't you mean just the "ECMA-standardized bits"? Microsoft might not submit any changes made to newer versions of.NET to the ECMA for review, leaving the current ECMA-standardized bits orphaned. Ironic that Microsoft might use their "embrace, extend, extinguish" tactic on one of their own things.
As for the support, what good is the support for.NET 1.x if the operating systems running it are no longer supported? The example for 10+ years of support is for "Self-help online support," which is just like the support you can get for MS-DOS or Windows 95. If you consider that generous product support, it sucks to be you.
Which.NET? Will all.NETs run on Vista? Will.NET run on linux, or will MS decide to litigate MONO and others out of existence? Will MS change license terms again, making it illegal to run.NET on anything but MS licensed systems? Will MS patches and updates applied to MS systems ? Will newer.NETs be able to control previous MSOffice applications and functionality, or will they all have to be "upgraded" as well?...and on and on.
All of the above questions have one thing in common. All the answers come from Microsoft. All decisions are made by Microsoft, and not by the developer.
Despite all the knee-jerk criticism of Al Jazeera here in the USA, it's obvious they are less biased than the American media. Al Jazeera broadcasts the video provided by the "brave Iraqi insurgents" of pleading innocent kidnap victims, their torments, their joyous dismembering of dead civilians and the celebratory dancing around the mutilated corpses, the brutal beheadings of their captives, the bodies of the children killed by their car bombs, the mass graves of captives they murder by the busload, and the grieving families of the people they round up and execute in the middle of the night.
All we get in the USA is photos of naked "brave Iraqi insurgents" being humiliated by the evil US military.
Maybe it's time for us to wake up and smell the blood.
Every single scientific experiment ever performed was performed to question theory.
Well said. Questioning theories is not only allowed, it is encouraged. From hadron colliders, deep subterranean neutrino detectors, orbiting and ground-based astronomy, all the way to the little guy in the patent office with a notebook and an idea, questions are always being asked and answers investigated. It's not always a pretty process, but the fact I'm typing and sending this message via computer is evidence that the process works.
Slashdot Mirror
Can anyone say "slashdot bias"?
Slashdot didn't go to court to get this story, Wired News did. The fact that Wired had to file a federal lawsuit to get the information regarding a massive computer failure involving border, national, and homeland security, and that a coverup was attempted, is worthy of film at 6, 10, and 11.
Can you say "Microsoft fanboy?"
Let's give this system to Iran, then we can avoid a war in August
That's rather interesting. This is offtopic, but I'm curious as to what software/system the Iranians are using in their government. If there's a significant Microsoft implementation, I kind of would feel safer. Nuclear technology is very risky, and if they've got any failsafes depending on Microsoft technology (blackmarketed or licensed) they might end up with a massive nuclear disaster of there own making, like the Mayak disaster in the Soviet Union.
What a total waste of money.
No kidding. Using Windows garbage for any Homeland Security tasks means that every Windows vulnerability (and there are many, many, many of them) becomes a National Security vulnerability. That's a fact, PERIOD. That the clowns responsible for the safety of the citizens of the US think that Windows is suitable for Homeland Security applications shows they are more concerned with protecting Microsoft's profits than protecting our families.
Fly some airplanes into skyscrapers. Now I know why the 9/11 terrorists went to Florida to reside and prepare for the attack.
The fact that Florida never stopped providing the perfect data for ID theives is really challenges any notion that Homeland Security is coordinating anything with the states, or that they are competent in anything at all.
Posts like this tend to make me think that Osama has a point.
No doubt, because he's a coward, too, only not anonymous. Now go back to the corner and crawl back under your rock.
We have many and varied economic systems on the planet and many operate better than the delinquent system in place in the USA.
Name just one. And if you do, tell me how they deal with immigration.
...we pay about $6/gallon already.
...but you don't even have proper public transportation where you could.
...last time I was there we bought some stuff in a grocery, and the plastic bags were completely unsuited for carrying. They were barely usable enough to get them out to your car in the parking lot.
Yeah, because of your governments' outrageously high taxes on gasoline. You pay more in taxes than the fuel itself costs.
More bullshit. Every city in the US has public transportation.
Congratulations, you just achieved Ultra Bullshit level. When given a choice, most people choose the plastic bags precisely because they are easier to carry from the store to the home door. And what were you doing with a car, anyway?
So if you're stuck in a corner, I'd say that's because you're painting yourself in there.
No, we drove ourselves out of the corner that you put yourself into, because we didn't like the condescending, full of shit whiners who sit in that corner. Those whiners resent the US because we didn't accept the restrictions on our mobility in the past and as the challenges of the future mount, we'll face them too. So don't put your shit on us, we're getting tired of hearing it.
Other countries cope, if you can't you need to blame something else than geography.
We're coping just fine, thanks. You just keep sitting in that corner waiting for the bus and telling yourself, "we are better, we are better, we are better," instead of "if I were in America, I'd have been there 3 and a half hours ago."
Sorry, but we're not the ones who missed the bus.
Capitalism has ran amuck in both places.
Oh, yes, communist governments handled resources sooo much better. Who is looked to when it comes time to pay for the cleanup? The capitalists.
People don't get no charity.
Only truly Evil, greedy bastards try to legally steal someone's estate.
They are known as lawyers.
Instead of removing copyright protections, why not just invalidate shrink-wrap and on-disk EULAs?
QUESTION: Which .NET?
.NETs run on Vista? .NET you want to run, even though the answer to the first question implies there's no .NETs to choose from.
.NET run on linux, or will MS decide to litigate MONO and others out of existence?
.NET on anything but MS licensed systems? .NET doesn't apply to Mono (unless they change it like you asked).
.NET?
.NET to the ECMA for review, leaving the current ECMA-standardized bits orphaned. Ironic that Microsoft might use their "embrace, extend, extinguish" tactic on one of their own things.
.NET 1.x if the operating systems running it are no longer supported? The example for 10+ years of support is for "Self-help online support," which is just like the support you can get for MS-DOS or Windows 95. If you consider that generous product support, it sucks to be you.
ANSWER: Microsoft's
QUESTION: Will all
ANSWER: Probably not, depending on the version of the Microsoft
QUESTION: Will
ANSWER: Only if Microsoft wants to, but don't worry because you can trust Microsoft.
QUESTION: Will MS change license terms again, making it illegal to run
ANSWER: Microsoft can do this, and should, because all non-MS licensed systems are pirate systems. But don't worry, because the Microsoft run-time EULA for
QUESTION*: Will MS patches and updates applied to MS systems?
ANSWER: What's that got to do with
* -- The question was malformed in it's original post.
Regarding the ECMA, you say, "anybody is free to implement the ECMA standards (see Mono)," but don't you mean just the "ECMA-standardized bits"? Microsoft might not submit any changes made to newer versions of
As for the support, what good is the support for
So, your answer is don't upgrade? That's not really very helpful.
Repeat to myself
All of the above questions have one thing in common. All the answers come from Microsoft. All decisions are made by Microsoft, and not by the developer.
Despite all the knee-jerk criticism of Al Jazeera here in the USA, it's obvious they are less biased than the American media. Al Jazeera broadcasts the video provided by the "brave Iraqi insurgents" of pleading innocent kidnap victims, their torments, their joyous dismembering of dead civilians and the celebratory dancing around the mutilated corpses, the brutal beheadings of their captives, the bodies of the children killed by their car bombs, the mass graves of captives they murder by the busload, and the grieving families of the people they round up and execute in the middle of the night.
All we get in the USA is photos of naked "brave Iraqi insurgents" being humiliated by the evil US military.
Maybe it's time for us to wake up and smell the blood.