Many states legally require electors to vote according to the popular vote of that state. In many others the electors are chosen by the victorious party -- so even then you're not buying out some general elector, you're buying out someone who has been chosen by, and sworn loyalty to, the winning party. And it would be a pretty massive scandal if a significant number of electors went against the popular vote. Hell it'd be a pretty massive scandal just to find out someone had tried to buy them off. Why risk that when you can just buy out whoever wins? Shit, anyone with enough money and connections to buy off electors certainly already owns both major parties...
Company A uses reprogrammable chips and does the responsible thing. When their chips get hacked, they issue a recall, and people go to the dealer to get theirs reprogrammed.
Company B is Volkswagen.
John Doe goes in to but a new car. They look at the vehicle report for the car from Company A, and they see it's been recalled for a failure in the security system. They look at the vehicle report for a Volkswagen, and they see no recalls. So they buy the Volkswagen.
Your assertion is only valid in a world where all consumers carefully research every purchase. *Nobody* does this -- it's not possible. Not enough hours in the day. For something as big as a car there's a decent chance they will, but even then I bet plenty of people don't.
Yes, but they apply that term to people they themselves admit are not involved in combat. Like Khaled El-Masri. Or the EMTs they intentionally slaughter with drone strikes. Or four year old girls.
EXACTLY! The parties only want one thing -- power. So they pick these issues that wouldn't give them any real additional power either way, take opposite sides on those, frame that as the entire debate, and throw us all in prison while we're not looking.
Regarding deportations, you should actually check the numbers on that. See http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/10/american-principles-action/has-barack-obama-deported-more-people-any-other-pr/ "...If you instead compare the two presidents’ monthly averages, it works out to 32,886 for Obama and 20,964 for Bush, putting Obama clearly in the lead. Bill Clinton is far behind with 869,676 total and 9,059 per month. All previous occupants of the White House going back to 1892 fell well short of the level of the three most recent presidents."
Obama hasn't stopped deporting undocumented immigrants; he's deporting a minimum of 50% more than Bush who deported 100% more than Clinton...Never in the history of this "melting pot" have we tried so hard to keep others out.
Not that I'm defending Obama -- in fact, this is one of many broken promises that I *despise* him for. Not the biggest -- that'd be his war of terror and police state tactics -- but definitely up there.
Personally, even knowing what to look for, I still had trouble seeing any difference between those two paragraphs. But maybe it's just me....I certainly don't see any "rivers of white space" (What does that even *mean*?)
I've always thought that political correctness is just another excuse for the educated elites to look down on everyone else.
Offensiveness doesn't come from words, it comes from the thoughts and actions behind those words. We've gone from nigger to negro to black to african-american back to black...and guess what? Racism hasn't gone away. All you do is replace one word with another word that has the exact same meaning. That's not progress; that's just confusion and wasted effort. Racists will still be racists no matter what words they're using to express it.
Which is essentially the same argument Linus is using -- assholes will be assholes no matter how you dress them up; why waste time and energy trying to sweep that under the rug?
Meh. Prime has always seemed a colossal waste of money to me. Then again, I don't but much online...and the "5-7 day" shipping offered by Newegg usually arrives in two (order Tuesday at 9pm and I'll sometimes have it by Thursday afternoon) so expedited shipping seems a waste too. Might be good for Amazon though; even the non-marketplace stuff usually takes around a week...but I order from Amazon about once or twice a year. Newegg maybe three or four.
But if you have a way to hide marketplace results I'd be very interested...every time I shop at Amazon I scour their site for such an option but can never seem to find one. And it seems that 95% of the results are always marketplace...with how long it takes to filter those out, you're better off just going elsewhere since Amazon's prices -- at best -- are no more than $5 lower than anywhere else.
"ObamaCare" is more corporatist than left/right (as is most everything else our government does these days...). The entire purpose of the bill is to force people to purchase products from private corporations. That's neither left nor right...though yes, there are certainly some "leftist" aspects to it.
Interesting to note though, people who use the term "leftist" to describe themselves, at least in my experience, tend to be some form of anarchist...so it's really not as simple as "increases government control"...because again, there's Libertarian Left and there's Authoritarian Left. Obama is EXTREMELY authoritarian, and marginally further left than, say, Romney...but still right of center on the whole.
BOTH AFFECT PRIVACY. They have the same effect on privacy. It's not a question of how much you value privacy, because privacy is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT to this comparison! Because it affects both equally. It's the same on both sides of the equation, so you can subtract it from both. Privacy + money > privacy. If privacy is 10 and money is 100, that statement is true. If privacy is 1000000000000 and money is 0.000001, that statement IS STILL TRUE.
To go back to the post I was replying to: This isn't the exact same thing as normal ad tracking, because this gives an attacker more power. We can debate all you want about which aspects of that power is more valuable, and I'd probably agree with you, but that's a completely different topic. More is by definition not "exactly the same". 1000000000000.000001 != 1000000000000.
Well no shit. But I'm losing privacy with either vulnerability; but only one can drain my bank account. Therefore, the one that also drains my bank account is CLEARLY worse.
Well...in a sense they're all everything because Left/Right is a TERRIBLE way to explain political ideology.
They're all Authoritarian/Right when using a 2-coordinate system. http://politicalcompass.org/uselection2012 (FWIW, this thing uses a -10 to +10 scale, and I'm personally around (-8,-8) way off in the Libertarian/Left corner...so fuck 'em all.)
Great. So I can save $3 on the products to pay an extra $30 in shipping to get three items each from a different seller, arriving a week later than promised, all either missing important components (like the proprietary power cable that's supposed to be included) or just not working. Yeah, sounds like a real advantage there....
Bullshit. Obama is Center-Right by American standards...just not by the standards of our media echo-chamber, which is far further to the right than the general public.
This Economic Hydra Effect is nasty. I'm just trying to figure out how Goldman-Sucks, et.al. got away with things like "robo signing," and "conflict of interest issues." I wonder, "how could a group of people do this, and get away with it?" A possible solution was, "put your attorney in the mix, and all communications are privileged."
The DoJ freely admits that they have plenty of evidence to prosecute them...they just don't want to.
DOJ officials have previously defended the lack of criminal charges against banks suspected of wrongdoing in large part by pointing to the so-called “collateral consequences” associated with filing a criminal indictment against a leading financial institution.
If all research was focused on problems we wouldn't have any of our modern technology.
There's a famous quote from Faraday...he once gave a demonstration where he moved a magnet through a coil of wire causing the needle of a compass on the other end to move as well. Afterwards a member of the audience came up and essentially asked "Well, this is all very interesting, but what USE is it?" to which Faraday replied "Of what use is a newborn baby?". Without "useless" experiments like that, we wouldn't have electricity.
Who knows what effects this could ultimately have on our understanding of human psychology...I agree, probably none, it seems pretty obvious...but you never know.
I actually expected to see a slightly different conclusion based on the headline -- I figured it would be that the length of the applause is related not to the presentation but to who is presenting it. If I presented at a Linux conference for example, no matter how good my presentation was, I bet Torvalds would get a longer applause simply because nobody knows who the hell I am. Certainly seems that way from the conferences I've attended...
Did he genetically test them? Because if not, then he knowingly cultivated wild seeds that were likely to have been genetically modified. All he would have known for sure is that they were herbicide resistant.
If anyone should be sued over that it should be the guy who originally planted the seeds that spread to this guy's properly. THAT guy's negligence is what violated Monsanto's patent; not the guy who just cultivated a crop he found on his own land. You've gotta be out of your fucking mind to suggest that sale terms you and Bob agree to apply to me just because I'm Bob's neighbor.
Did he genetically modify the wheat himself? No. He wasn't violating the patents; the wheat did that itself.
Or do you honestly believe that every human being on the planet should be legally required to send any seed they plan to plant to a genetics testing lab first to make sure they're not actually required to be paying a licensing fee?
Protecting a small highschool in Ebensburg, PA is not national security. A freakin' nuclear bomb could go off in that school and, other than fear and paranoia, the rest of the nation would hardly notice.
National security is protecting New York City from nuclear missiles. National security, as the name implies, is about the security of the ENTIRE NATION. That's why the feds control the military, but the local police are controlled by the local government -- because security is one of those things that DOES vary wildly and it is therefore best left in local control. Makes more sense for the feds to control the curriculum than the security. In rural PA, saying something is "secure" means it's tied down so it won't blow away. In NYC, it means metal detectors and armed guards. But the list of US Presidents or the rules of a chemical reaction don't change.
Yes, because the public school in the town where nobody locks their doors needs the same protection as a public school in the Bronx.
This is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that got someone shot and killed at my highschool a few years back. Crazy local homeless guy turns up looking for a job. Administrators refuse to let him in, and call the police because he seems suspicious. Now, this is a small town with a homeless population of four. Everyone, cops included, know who these people are. But hey, post-9/11, something suspicious going on! Every school in the district goes into lockdown and the police pull up with their brand new DHS-funded anti-terrorism gear, all excited to have a chance to finally play with them. Homeless guy sticks his hand in his pocket; cop freaks out thinking he's reaching for a gun; and the homeless guy gets a shotgun blast to the chest. Died right there on the sidewalk with students watching, no weapons or anything found, no investigation conducted into the shooting.
In my highschool (class of '08) we studied the Constitution several times; I think it was 9th, 10th, and 12th grade (Civics, US History, and Government). We celebrated Constitution Day with a ten foot tall copy in the hallway and teachers handing out pocket constitutions. The more advanced (AP) classes read the Federalist Papers, John Locke's Treatise on Civil Government, etc...
This was a public school in a small town in western PA.
The bus driver sees these same kids twice a day, every day, for years. When I was in school I had the same driver for all seven years of elementary school then most of the way through highschool as well. They get to know the kids pretty quickly, know where they get on and off, know if anything's different. At my school, if you got on a different bus, the driver would ask you who you are, where you're going, make sure you were with whatever friend you said you were going home with, and usually check if you've asked your parents. Yeah, kids lie, but if a kid goes missing on the bus you call the drivers and one of them will know where they ended up.
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Many states legally require electors to vote according to the popular vote of that state.
In many others the electors are chosen by the victorious party -- so even then you're not buying out some general elector, you're buying out someone who has been chosen by, and sworn loyalty to, the winning party.
And it would be a pretty massive scandal if a significant number of electors went against the popular vote. Hell it'd be a pretty massive scandal just to find out someone had tried to buy them off. Why risk that when you can just buy out whoever wins? Shit, anyone with enough money and connections to buy off electors certainly already owns both major parties...
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html#restrictions
The electoral college is a *TERRIBLE* system, but electors being corrupted should probably be among the least of your concerns.
Company A uses reprogrammable chips and does the responsible thing. When their chips get hacked, they issue a recall, and people go to the dealer to get theirs reprogrammed.
Company B is Volkswagen.
John Doe goes in to but a new car. They look at the vehicle report for the car from Company A, and they see it's been recalled for a failure in the security system. They look at the vehicle report for a Volkswagen, and they see no recalls. So they buy the Volkswagen.
Your assertion is only valid in a world where all consumers carefully research every purchase. *Nobody* does this -- it's not possible. Not enough hours in the day. For something as big as a car there's a decent chance they will, but even then I bet plenty of people don't.
Yes, but they apply that term to people they themselves admit are not involved in combat. Like Khaled El-Masri. Or the EMTs they intentionally slaughter with drone strikes. Or four year old girls.
EXACTLY! The parties only want one thing -- power. So they pick these issues that wouldn't give them any real additional power either way, take opposite sides on those, frame that as the entire debate, and throw us all in prison while we're not looking.
Regarding deportations, you should actually check the numbers on that. See http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/10/american-principles-action/has-barack-obama-deported-more-people-any-other-pr/
"...If you instead compare the two presidents’ monthly averages, it works out to 32,886 for Obama and 20,964 for Bush, putting Obama clearly in the lead. Bill Clinton is far behind with 869,676 total and 9,059 per month. All previous occupants of the White House going back to 1892 fell well short of the level of the three most recent presidents."
Obama hasn't stopped deporting undocumented immigrants; he's deporting a minimum of 50% more than Bush who deported 100% more than Clinton...Never in the history of this "melting pot" have we tried so hard to keep others out.
Not that I'm defending Obama -- in fact, this is one of many broken promises that I *despise* him for. Not the biggest -- that'd be his war of terror and police state tactics -- but definitely up there.
No borders; no nations!
Personally, even knowing what to look for, I still had trouble seeing any difference between those two paragraphs. But maybe it's just me....I certainly don't see any "rivers of white space" (What does that even *mean*?)
I've always thought that political correctness is just another excuse for the educated elites to look down on everyone else.
Offensiveness doesn't come from words, it comes from the thoughts and actions behind those words. We've gone from nigger to negro to black to african-american back to black...and guess what? Racism hasn't gone away. All you do is replace one word with another word that has the exact same meaning. That's not progress; that's just confusion and wasted effort. Racists will still be racists no matter what words they're using to express it.
Which is essentially the same argument Linus is using -- assholes will be assholes no matter how you dress them up; why waste time and energy trying to sweep that under the rug?
Meh. Prime has always seemed a colossal waste of money to me. Then again, I don't but much online...and the "5-7 day" shipping offered by Newegg usually arrives in two (order Tuesday at 9pm and I'll sometimes have it by Thursday afternoon) so expedited shipping seems a waste too. Might be good for Amazon though; even the non-marketplace stuff usually takes around a week...but I order from Amazon about once or twice a year. Newegg maybe three or four.
But if you have a way to hide marketplace results I'd be very interested...every time I shop at Amazon I scour their site for such an option but can never seem to find one. And it seems that 95% of the results are always marketplace...with how long it takes to filter those out, you're better off just going elsewhere since Amazon's prices -- at best -- are no more than $5 lower than anywhere else.
"ObamaCare" is more corporatist than left/right (as is most everything else our government does these days...). The entire purpose of the bill is to force people to purchase products from private corporations. That's neither left nor right...though yes, there are certainly some "leftist" aspects to it.
Interesting to note though, people who use the term "leftist" to describe themselves, at least in my experience, tend to be some form of anarchist...so it's really not as simple as "increases government control"...because again, there's Libertarian Left and there's Authoritarian Left. Obama is EXTREMELY authoritarian, and marginally further left than, say, Romney...but still right of center on the whole.
You are not getting this are you?
BOTH AFFECT PRIVACY. They have the same effect on privacy. It's not a question of how much you value privacy, because privacy is ENTIRELY IRRELEVANT to this comparison! Because it affects both equally. It's the same on both sides of the equation, so you can subtract it from both. Privacy + money > privacy. If privacy is 10 and money is 100, that statement is true. If privacy is 1000000000000 and money is 0.000001, that statement IS STILL TRUE.
To go back to the post I was replying to: This isn't the exact same thing as normal ad tracking, because this gives an attacker more power. We can debate all you want about which aspects of that power is more valuable, and I'd probably agree with you, but that's a completely different topic. More is by definition not "exactly the same". 1000000000000.000001 != 1000000000000.
Well no shit. But I'm losing privacy with either vulnerability; but only one can drain my bank account. Therefore, the one that also drains my bank account is CLEARLY worse.
Well...in a sense they're all everything because Left/Right is a TERRIBLE way to explain political ideology.
They're all Authoritarian/Right when using a 2-coordinate system.
http://politicalcompass.org/uselection2012
(FWIW, this thing uses a -10 to +10 scale, and I'm personally around (-8,-8) way off in the Libertarian/Left corner...so fuck 'em all.)
And how exactly can a hacker drain my bank account using a Facebook 'like' button?
Great. So I can save $3 on the products to pay an extra $30 in shipping to get three items each from a different seller, arriving a week later than promised, all either missing important components (like the proprietary power cable that's supposed to be included) or just not working. Yeah, sounds like a real advantage there....
Bullshit. Obama is Center-Right by American standards...just not by the standards of our media echo-chamber, which is far further to the right than the general public.
This isn't just personal observation either (well, the media echo-chamber being the cause is)...studies show the American public is further left than people think it is. One example: http://www.salon.com/2013/03/05/politicians_think_americans_are_super_conservative/
This Economic Hydra Effect is nasty. I'm just trying to figure out how Goldman-Sucks, et.al. got away with things like "robo signing," and "conflict of interest issues." I wonder, "how could a group of people do this, and get away with it?" A possible solution was, "put your attorney in the mix, and all communications are privileged."
The DoJ freely admits that they have plenty of evidence to prosecute them...they just don't want to.
From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/too-big-to-jail-obama-justice_n_3322824.html:
DOJ officials have previously defended the lack of criminal charges against banks suspected of wrongdoing in large part by pointing to the so-called “collateral consequences” associated with filing a criminal indictment against a leading financial institution.
If all research was focused on problems we wouldn't have any of our modern technology.
There's a famous quote from Faraday...he once gave a demonstration where he moved a magnet through a coil of wire causing the needle of a compass on the other end to move as well. Afterwards a member of the audience came up and essentially asked "Well, this is all very interesting, but what USE is it?" to which Faraday replied "Of what use is a newborn baby?". Without "useless" experiments like that, we wouldn't have electricity.
Who knows what effects this could ultimately have on our understanding of human psychology...I agree, probably none, it seems pretty obvious...but you never know.
I actually expected to see a slightly different conclusion based on the headline -- I figured it would be that the length of the applause is related not to the presentation but to who is presenting it. If I presented at a Linux conference for example, no matter how good my presentation was, I bet Torvalds would get a longer applause simply because nobody knows who the hell I am. Certainly seems that way from the conferences I've attended...
Did he genetically test them? Because if not, then he knowingly cultivated wild seeds that were likely to have been genetically modified. All he would have known for sure is that they were herbicide resistant.
If anyone should be sued over that it should be the guy who originally planted the seeds that spread to this guy's properly. THAT guy's negligence is what violated Monsanto's patent; not the guy who just cultivated a crop he found on his own land. You've gotta be out of your fucking mind to suggest that sale terms you and Bob agree to apply to me just because I'm Bob's neighbor.
Did he genetically modify the wheat himself? No. He wasn't violating the patents; the wheat did that itself.
Or do you honestly believe that every human being on the planet should be legally required to send any seed they plan to plant to a genetics testing lab first to make sure they're not actually required to be paying a licensing fee?
OK, now I think it's safe to assume your original post was sarcastic and went over everyone's heads, right....?
Protecting a small highschool in Ebensburg, PA is not national security. A freakin' nuclear bomb could go off in that school and, other than fear and paranoia, the rest of the nation would hardly notice.
National security is protecting New York City from nuclear missiles. National security, as the name implies, is about the security of the ENTIRE NATION. That's why the feds control the military, but the local police are controlled by the local government -- because security is one of those things that DOES vary wildly and it is therefore best left in local control. Makes more sense for the feds to control the curriculum than the security. In rural PA, saying something is "secure" means it's tied down so it won't blow away. In NYC, it means metal detectors and armed guards. But the list of US Presidents or the rules of a chemical reaction don't change.
Yes, because the public school in the town where nobody locks their doors needs the same protection as a public school in the Bronx.
This is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that got someone shot and killed at my highschool a few years back. Crazy local homeless guy turns up looking for a job. Administrators refuse to let him in, and call the police because he seems suspicious. Now, this is a small town with a homeless population of four. Everyone, cops included, know who these people are. But hey, post-9/11, something suspicious going on! Every school in the district goes into lockdown and the police pull up with their brand new DHS-funded anti-terrorism gear, all excited to have a chance to finally play with them. Homeless guy sticks his hand in his pocket; cop freaks out thinking he's reaching for a gun; and the homeless guy gets a shotgun blast to the chest. Died right there on the sidewalk with students watching, no weapons or anything found, no investigation conducted into the shooting.
In my highschool (class of '08) we studied the Constitution several times; I think it was 9th, 10th, and 12th grade (Civics, US History, and Government). We celebrated Constitution Day with a ten foot tall copy in the hallway and teachers handing out pocket constitutions. The more advanced (AP) classes read the Federalist Papers, John Locke's Treatise on Civil Government, etc...
This was a public school in a small town in western PA.
The bus driver sees these same kids twice a day, every day, for years. When I was in school I had the same driver for all seven years of elementary school then most of the way through highschool as well. They get to know the kids pretty quickly, know where they get on and off, know if anything's different. At my school, if you got on a different bus, the driver would ask you who you are, where you're going, make sure you were with whatever friend you said you were going home with, and usually check if you've asked your parents. Yeah, kids lie, but if a kid goes missing on the bus you call the drivers and one of them will know where they ended up.