The dumbing down of the Firefox has been an ongoing process. With every update Mozilla hides options that were in previous versions. Just like Ubuntu and Gnome, the simpler something is the easier it is for the so called "normal" people to use. God forbid you actually want to change the default options. Btw Google Chrome totally sucks, the UI is like something a child's browser would use. Every time I have it import my Firefox settings it stops loading pages. Pages load way faster in Firefox, they both start up in the same amount of time. Plus Chrome eats ram like a kid at Halloween. There are no where near the amount of extensions for it that Firefox has. What Mozilla needs to do is leave the UI alone and work on fixing the known bugs and issues.
Give her a copy of Revolution OS and a Linux Livecd. Perhaps a copy of the GPL, along with the OSS definition.
Open source doesn't just mean access to the source code. The distribution terms of open-source software must comply with the following criteria:
1. Free Redistribution
The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.
My 9 yr old took his OLPC Xo to school afterwards we had a couple of the parents call and ask where they could get one. Linux and Open-Source are the future it is time for microsoft to crawl back under its rock where it belongs.
Thank you for setting us FREE.
Five years windows free.
sidux on both my desktops, and Debian Lenny on my Eee PC 701 which boots in 20 seconds to KDE.
From wikipedia: (not that it is always accurate)
"Linux (commonly pronounced IPA:/ËlÉnÉ(TM)ks/ in English; variants exist[1]) is a Unix-like computer operating system family which uses the Linux kernel. Linux is one of the most prominent examples of free software and open source development; typically all the underlying source code can be freely modified, used, and redistributed by anyone.[2]
Predominantly known for its use in servers, it is installed on a wide variety of computer hardware, ranging from embedded devices and mobile phones to supercomputers.[3]
The name "Linux" comes from the Linux kernel, originally written in 1991 by Linus Torvalds. The system's utilities and libraries usually come from the GNU operating system, announced in 1983 by Richard Stallman. The GNU contribution is the basis for the alternative name GNU/Linux.[4]"
Debian runs perfectly as a desktop anything else is just useless FUD. I have ran Debian unstable as me desktop for the last 4 years, and now on my Eeepc. Why the hell do think 70% of other distros are based on Debian ? It truly is the Universal OS.
Sarge was released in not quite 2 yrs, Etch is due to be released in Sept, Stable is fine on a server, but most people that run debian on their desktop use testing or Sid.
"PortableApps Suite
your computer, without the computer"
http://portableapps.com/suite
Would be a good thing for them to go with, too bad its only for windows.
Personally I don't see what all the fuss about "releases" is all about. If I wanted to reinstall my OS I would still be running windows.
Instead I have ran Debian Sid for the last 2 years, my system is updated weekly by doing apt-get dist-upgrade.
Doing a new release and having to deal with problems involved in updating to that release is just insane. Just having to change your sources.list with every release is a pain, then you have to wonder just what is going to break when you upgrade.
If Ubuntu would stop trying to reinvent the wheel and do things the Debian way, with a release that is actually stable people wouldn't be having all the problem they are having.
If you want bleeding edge apps on a stable system run Debian Sid or Kanotix.
Why do releases matter? A simple apt-get dist-upgrade keeps your system updated.
Actually if you look on distrowatch.org over 10 of the top 20 distros are based on Debian.
Are KDE3.5.5a, Xorg 7.1, beryl, OpenOffice2.4; in Ubuntu?
People get too caught up on the whole release idea.
I think the idea of IceWeasel is great, as matter of fact I downloaded it from http://gnuzilla.gnu.org/download/
just the other day. It is exactly the same as Firefox 1.5.0.7, but it already has a couple of security fixes.
IceWeasel also includes some privacy protection features:
1. Some sites refer to zero-size images on other hosts to keep track of cookies. When IceWeasel detects this mechanism it blocks cookies from the site hosting the zero-length image file. (It is possible to re-enable such a site by removing it from the blocked hosts list.)
2. Other sites rewrite the host name in links redirecting the user to another site, mainly to "spy" on clicks. When this behavior is detected, IceWeasel shows a message alerting the user.
Debian and GNU are doing the right thing. I have been using Debian Sid for over two years and I will happily continue to use it. I would much rather wait the short amount of time for a Debian security fix than wait til Mozilla decides to fix a bug.
A fork of Firefox isn't going to touch the amount of people that use IE.
IceWeasel ftw!!
A reasonable person, considering the game as a whole, would find appeals to a deviant or morbid interest of minors.
(ii) It is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the community as to what is suitable for minors.
(iii) It causes the game, as a whole, to lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for minors.
Just what are prevailing standards? Standards in the Bible Belt? Standards in New York? STandards in S.F.? Whose standards are they going by?
People need to wake up, if they can define "standards" for one thing ; then they can define them for others.
This should be left up to parents not the government.
Welcome to Amerika, don't leave home without your papers!
The USer Switcher Agent in Firefox works as does Opera when choosing identity as IE. This was tested on a Debian Linux system. So all it takes is installing an extension in Firefox and Opera choosing identity as IE.
Using a text based browser like Lynx is another thing.
Even when I ran windows I never ran IE. I used Netscape then Mozilla then Firefox. Now running Linux I could run IE6 in wine, but why in the world would I want to. IE is a pos, buggy and insecure.
What about Lynx or other text-based browsers?
Get a real browser run Firefox or Opera.
You just have to love the USA government and the stupid people in it.
Pretty much any app you need in Debian is in a repository. If not in an "official" one then more than likely you can find one at apt-get.org.
Even installing/compiling from source has never taken longer than a few minutes.
I have ran Debian Sid for over two years with very few problems.
The article is more MS fud, they are afraid of OSS and of Linux. Anyone remember the wonderful BSOD? Doesn't happen on a Linux machine. A program that causes the entire system to crash? Never had it happen on a Linux machine.
Read and Follow the install/upgrade instructions and you will have few to no problems. Upgraded 6 servers and 10 desktops all without any glitchs. Other than having to change the/etc/apt/sources.list
A mix of Testing and Unstable is the way to go for a desktop or laptop. Debian ROCKS.
Experimental is kinda a holding area until they get enough bugs worked out to move it to unstable. From unstable it moves to testing. And then in a 100yrs or so moves to Stable.
Right now KDE3.4 has its own repository, GNOME2.10 is still in Experimental, or at least it was a couple hours ago when I checked.
It is more fun to run a mix of Testing and Unstable packages.
The thing about Xandros is it is setup to look and act prety much like windows. Which makes it simple for someone new to Linux to be able to use it.
I bought an inexpensive system from samsclub for $157 and didn't have to worry about paying for a dialup service.
Debian Sid rules.
I do not see what the big deal is. The same day Mozilla releases an update for Firefox/Mozilla for Windows they release the tarball version for Linux.
It seems to me it is up to the individual distros to put out the repackaged versions.
The newest version of Firefox was in the Debain Sid repository 2 days after the "official" Mozilla update was released.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 Firefox/1.0.4 (Debian package 1.0.4-2)
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The dumbing down of the Firefox has been an ongoing process. With every update Mozilla hides options that were in previous versions. Just like Ubuntu and Gnome, the simpler something is the easier it is for the so called "normal" people to use. God forbid you actually want to change the default options. Btw Google Chrome totally sucks, the UI is like something a child's browser would use. Every time I have it import my Firefox settings it stops loading pages. Pages load way faster in Firefox, they both start up in the same amount of time. Plus Chrome eats ram like a kid at Halloween.
There are no where near the amount of extensions for it that Firefox has. What Mozilla needs to do is leave the UI alone and work on fixing the known bugs and issues.
Debian works on any of the Eee PC models.
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC
On my 701 it boots in 20 seconds to lxde, wireless just works, suspend works.On my wife's 1000HE everything also works.
Give her a copy of Revolution OS and a Linux Livecd. Perhaps a copy of the GPL, along with the OSS definition. Open source doesn't just mean access to the source code. The distribution terms of open-source software must comply with the following criteria: 1. Free Redistribution The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale. My 9 yr old took his OLPC Xo to school afterwards we had a couple of the parents call and ask where they could get one. Linux and Open-Source are the future it is time for microsoft to crawl back under its rock where it belongs.
Thank you for setting us FREE. Five years windows free. sidux on both my desktops, and Debian Lenny on my Eee PC 701 which boots in 20 seconds to KDE. From wikipedia: (not that it is always accurate) "Linux (commonly pronounced IPA: /ËlÉnÉ(TM)ks/ in English; variants exist[1]) is a Unix-like computer operating system family which uses the Linux kernel. Linux is one of the most prominent examples of free software and open source development; typically all the underlying source code can be freely modified, used, and redistributed by anyone.[2]
Predominantly known for its use in servers, it is installed on a wide variety of computer hardware, ranging from embedded devices and mobile phones to supercomputers.[3]
The name "Linux" comes from the Linux kernel, originally written in 1991 by Linus Torvalds. The system's utilities and libraries usually come from the GNU operating system, announced in 1983 by Richard Stallman. The GNU contribution is the basis for the alternative name GNU/Linux.[4]"
Thats why most Debian desktop users run either testing or Sid. Stable is for servers.
Debian runs perfectly as a desktop anything else is just useless FUD. I have ran Debian unstable as me desktop for the last 4 years, and now on my Eeepc. Why the hell do think 70% of other distros are based on Debian ? It truly is the Universal OS.
Sarge was released in not quite 2 yrs, Etch is due to be released in Sept, Stable is fine on a server, but most people that run debian on their desktop use testing or Sid.
"PortableApps Suite your computer, without the computer" http://portableapps.com/suite Would be a good thing for them to go with, too bad its only for windows.
Personally I don't see what all the fuss about "releases" is all about. If I wanted to reinstall my OS I would still be running windows.
Instead I have ran Debian Sid for the last 2 years, my system is updated weekly by doing apt-get dist-upgrade.
Doing a new release and having to deal with problems involved in updating to that release is just insane. Just having to change your sources.list with every release is a pain, then you have to wonder just what is going to break when you upgrade.
If Ubuntu would stop trying to reinvent the wheel and do things the Debian way, with a release that is actually stable people wouldn't be having all the problem they are having.
If you want bleeding edge apps on a stable system run Debian Sid or Kanotix.
Actually if you look on distrowatch.org over 10 of the top 20 distros are based on Debian.
Are KDE3.5.5a, Xorg 7.1, beryl, OpenOffice2.4; in Ubuntu?
People get too caught up on the whole release idea.
I think the idea of IceWeasel is great, as matter of fact I downloaded it from http://gnuzilla.gnu.org/download/ just the other day. It is exactly the same as Firefox 1.5.0.7, but it already has a couple of security fixes.
Debian and GNU are doing the right thing. I have been using Debian Sid for over two years and I will happily continue to use it. I would much rather wait the short amount of time for a Debian security fix than wait til Mozilla decides to fix a bug.
A fork of Firefox isn't going to touch the amount of people that use IE. IceWeasel ftw!!
This is the scary part:
A reasonable person, considering the game as a whole, would
find appeals to a deviant or morbid interest of minors.
(ii) It is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the
community as to what is suitable for minors.
(iii) It causes the game, as a whole, to lack serious literary,
artistic, political, or scientific value for minors.
Just what are prevailing standards? Standards in the Bible Belt? Standards in New York? STandards in S.F.? Whose standards are they going by?
People need to wake up, if they can define "standards" for one thing ; then they can define them for others.
This should be left up to parents not the government.
Welcome to Amerika, don't leave home without your papers!
With network.enableIDN set to false all I get is a blank page. Going to test it with it set to false.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050720 Firefox/1.0.6 (Debian package 1.0.6-1)
The USer Switcher Agent in Firefox works as does Opera when choosing identity as IE. This was tested on a Debian Linux system. So all it takes is installing an extension in Firefox and Opera choosing identity as IE.
Using a text based browser like Lynx is another thing.
Even when I ran windows I never ran IE. I used Netscape then Mozilla then Firefox. Now running Linux I could run IE6 in wine, but why in the world would I want to. IE is a pos, buggy and insecure.
What about Lynx or other text-based browsers?
Get a real browser run Firefox or Opera.
You just have to love the USA government and the stupid people in it.
Pretty much any app you need in Debian is in a repository. If not in an "official" one then more than likely you can find one at apt-get.org.
Even installing/compiling from source has never taken longer than a few minutes.
I have ran Debian Sid for over two years with very few problems.
The article is more MS fud, they are afraid of OSS and of Linux. Anyone remember the wonderful BSOD? Doesn't happen on a Linux machine. A program that causes the entire system to crash? Never had it happen on a Linux machine.
Read and Follow the install/upgrade instructions and you will have few to no problems. Upgraded 6 servers and 10 desktops all without any glitchs. Other than having to change the /etc/apt/sources.list
A mix of Testing and Unstable is the way to go for a desktop or laptop. Debian ROCKS.
Experimental is kinda a holding area until they get enough bugs worked out to move it to unstable. From unstable it moves to testing. And then in a 100yrs or so moves to Stable. Right now KDE3.4 has its own repository, GNOME2.10 is still in Experimental, or at least it was a couple hours ago when I checked. It is more fun to run a mix of Testing and Unstable packages.
The thing about Xandros is it is setup to look and act prety much like windows. Which makes it simple for someone new to Linux to be able to use it. I bought an inexpensive system from samsclub for $157 and didn't have to worry about paying for a dialup service. Debian Sid rules.
I do not see what the big deal is. The same day Mozilla releases an update for Firefox/Mozilla for Windows they release the tarball version for Linux. It seems to me it is up to the individual distros to put out the repackaged versions. The newest version of Firefox was in the Debain Sid repository 2 days after the "official" Mozilla update was released. Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517 Firefox/1.0.4 (Debian package 1.0.4-2)