I'm a bit confused by this. Isn't this what licenses are for? Why not just sue the people selling and profiting from your open source product for breaking the license? It just seems to me that the reasoning doesn't make much sense. There are plenty of examples of people selling closed source software that's "free" to people who don't know any better(like Kazaa) and are less tight-fisted with their money than I am. It seems to me that decisions like this don't scare off someone someone who wants to resell your program to make a buck, doesn't help someone so incurious as to not wonder if there is a free version of the software they are being asked to buy, but does hurt the person who just wants the source for their own reasons. Am I wrong?
You're thinking of this place all wrong. As if I had the money back in a safe. The money's not here. Your money's in Joe's S & M fetish dungeon...right next to yours. And in the Kennedy's warehouse of flying penises, and Mrs. Macklin's Fur-suit emporium, and a hundred others. Why, you're lending them the money to build, and then, they're going to pay it back to you as best they can. Now what are you going to do? Foreclose on them?
"The government doesn't have rights. The government has powers."
Quibble. It doesn't have those powers then. Typical of partisian thinking to argue semantics.
"In other words, there's no controlling legal authority that it's against any law or rule. There are court decisions that tend to support it, but none incontrovertably rule on this precise issue."
Er, what about the court that ORDERED them to release the records? Do we get to pick and choose?
"I'm supposed to forsee a time when government spying is more of a threat than terrorism?"
Once again, why do you have to pick and choose? Terrorism has always been a threat, I'm just not enough of a coward to be scared into having a government that doesn't play by the rules. Pathetic.
"Of course, no Democrat has received a majority of the vote for president for almost 30 years, but anything can happen."
And you end with a non-sequiter. Need I remind you of Mr. Bush's contested election?
I would agree with you that the election laws should be changed. Hm. I don't think you made a single point in your post. Interesting. I think partisian politics rots the logical mind. I'll end with..
"Because the legislative branch of government always tries to take power from the executive branch."
They are there to check each other, and it is the very basis of this country. If you want a king, move to fucking Europe.
You're on crack or a neocon if you think a "Authorization for Use of Military Force" gives the government rights to spy on it's own citizens. The jury is still out on that, but if it were true, why are there pending bills to make what they are doing now legal? Can I have some of that kool-aid? Your lack of foresight is astonishing. But I suppose you can always just change your mind about all this when a Democrat is elected president, no harm done.
"Is there a new right to be free from surveillance in wartime?"
I didn't get the memo that we we're at war with anyone...are you referring to war on pronouns?
First they came for my email
and I did not speak out
because I use Thunderbird.
Then they came for Word Doc's
and I did not speak out
because I use Open Office.
Then they came for Pay Pal
and I did not speak out
because I use Craig's List.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
That's my main worry, what I liked was the kind of controlled chaos of the idea, but I have no idea how much effort goes into keeping the entries clean(I would imagine it's alot.)
Paranoia Agent
Michael Moore was actually only bringing up the video game angle to dismiss it, and the people who use it as a boogeyman, and actually is more on the side of most of the people who post here....slightly offtopic, but he was trying to understand a bigger problem here in America, and he seemed to realize that all the boogeymen(video games, rock, drugs, etc) were getting in the way of our understanding of why we feel the need to shoot each other so often. I guess people think it's bad to think about these things, but unless they will weigh in substantially and not quibble about small details(ignore the big question and focus on bowling? WTF?) they should all just STFU. At least someone is discussing it. And yes, I realize that was a runon sentence, no grammar nazis, please.
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You die in the game, you die for real.
I was asking for help understand which is why I asked. Maybe you should understand how basic speech works before snarking.
I'm a bit confused by this. Isn't this what licenses are for? Why not just sue the people selling and profiting from your open source product for breaking the license? It just seems to me that the reasoning doesn't make much sense. There are plenty of examples of people selling closed source software that's "free" to people who don't know any better(like Kazaa) and are less tight-fisted with their money than I am. It seems to me that decisions like this don't scare off someone someone who wants to resell your program to make a buck, doesn't help someone so incurious as to not wonder if there is a free version of the software they are being asked to buy, but does hurt the person who just wants the source for their own reasons. Am I wrong?
You're thinking of this place all wrong. As if I had the money back in a safe. The money's not here. Your money's in Joe's S & M fetish dungeon...right next to yours. And in the Kennedy's warehouse of flying penises, and Mrs. Macklin's Fur-suit emporium, and a hundred others. Why, you're lending them the money to build, and then, they're going to pay it back to you as best they can. Now what are you going to do? Foreclose on them?
You're Cory Doctorow, right?
Being a surgeon is easy, just shoot patients up with the green stuff to get their stats up, right?
Sorry, I was just leveraging some non-personal resources.
" it's very tiring to keep your arms in the air" I happen to like my Wii, you insensitive bastard.
Carbon Monoxide poisoning during severe winter weather actually happens from people burning things(like books, coal etc.) to keep warm. It happens.
Put the book vending machine in your tub. I know this is impactical, especially if you enjoy longer books.
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Call it "Freedom DRM".
"The government doesn't have rights. The government has powers." Quibble. It doesn't have those powers then. Typical of partisian thinking to argue semantics. "In other words, there's no controlling legal authority that it's against any law or rule. There are court decisions that tend to support it, but none incontrovertably rule on this precise issue." Er, what about the court that ORDERED them to release the records? Do we get to pick and choose? "I'm supposed to forsee a time when government spying is more of a threat than terrorism?" Once again, why do you have to pick and choose? Terrorism has always been a threat, I'm just not enough of a coward to be scared into having a government that doesn't play by the rules. Pathetic. "Of course, no Democrat has received a majority of the vote for president for almost 30 years, but anything can happen." And you end with a non-sequiter. Need I remind you of Mr. Bush's contested election? I would agree with you that the election laws should be changed. Hm. I don't think you made a single point in your post. Interesting. I think partisian politics rots the logical mind. I'll end with.. "Because the legislative branch of government always tries to take power from the executive branch." They are there to check each other, and it is the very basis of this country. If you want a king, move to fucking Europe.
*cough*port deal*cough* /snickers /can you turn up the froth-o-meter a little more? lol
You're on crack or a neocon if you think a "Authorization for Use of Military Force" gives the government rights to spy on it's own citizens. The jury is still out on that, but if it were true, why are there pending bills to make what they are doing now legal? Can I have some of that kool-aid? Your lack of foresight is astonishing. But I suppose you can always just change your mind about all this when a Democrat is elected president, no harm done.
"Is there a new right to be free from surveillance in wartime?" I didn't get the memo that we we're at war with anyone...are you referring to war on pronouns?
They're not even a competitor, NTP doesn't make anything. There's another word for what they are....
First they came for my email and I did not speak out because I use Thunderbird. Then they came for Word Doc's and I did not speak out because I use Open Office. Then they came for Pay Pal and I did not speak out because I use Craig's List. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Couldn't the birds have attacked AFTER death?
Considering it's a nation of criminals, all internet piracy should dry up by....tomorrow!
I use stumbleupon, and I've had no problems, it seems compatable. I'm using the most recent Stumbleupon build.
Now I can goatse someone.....from BEYOND THE GRAVE!
That's my main worry, what I liked was the kind of controlled chaos of the idea, but I have no idea how much effort goes into keeping the entries clean(I would imagine it's alot.) Paranoia Agent
Michael Moore was actually only bringing up the video game angle to dismiss it, and the people who use it as a boogeyman, and actually is more on the side of most of the people who post here....slightly offtopic, but he was trying to understand a bigger problem here in America, and he seemed to realize that all the boogeymen(video games, rock, drugs, etc) were getting in the way of our understanding of why we feel the need to shoot each other so often. I guess people think it's bad to think about these things, but unless they will weigh in substantially and not quibble about small details(ignore the big question and focus on bowling? WTF?) they should all just STFU. At least someone is discussing it. And yes, I realize that was a runon sentence, no grammar nazis, please.
Of the kid who revealed the function...