I wouldn't be too sure of this "If you're not and they try something like that, you can sue the living crap out of the people that are doing it, and you'll have lawyers out the door to back you up" argument of yours.
That's fine and all, except it's false. In your so-called "land of the free", private institutions are NOT allowed to refuse to do business with anyone they please. There's a whole slew of anti-discrimination laws that deal with that. I would guess it is forbidden to discriminate against someone for their political beliefs.
Besides, I though your party found Jews bashing to be cool, nowadays.
That's perfectly fine, if you *decide* that you feel like doing it, by all means go ahead. *Demanding* money, however, is not perfectly fine in such a situation.
I made a point to call my lawn fictional because *I* don't have one - I live in a flat - I understand you have a real one ^_^
... which is pretty much what I was trying to say? I was showing how stupid calling this "extortion" would be. The fact that he is not a professional does not matter here.
I still have to pay a flat tax of 5 euros even when it's a marked as "gift" - if any value is declared I'll pay import taxes on top of this, but there is no escape from the 5 euros tax. Things are only going to get worse as the dollar sinks lower, the EU parliament has decided that we must be protected from very cheap goods.
I'd find it hard to respect the first guy who comes around and mows my lawn without being asked to and possibily against my wishes, who then proceeds to act like he deserves anything. I'm not sure you realize my fictional lawn is my property.
Wait a second, by your definitions every security consultant in the world is implicitely extorting money from me by not telling me what my weak points are. I am *sure* I have some, yet they won't speak up unless I pay.
It's a professional service. They provide you with info, you pay them.
Well, I for one don't feel like reinstalling and *reconfiguring* all of my productivity suites and servers and services and app settings just because I upgraded to better hardware (or, as in my last switch, a not-running-up-to-80 C-and-then-resetting mobo:D).
You said yourself you'd only reinstall on a test machine.
Revert your controllers drivers to the generic ones that ship with Windows and uninstall your graphic drivers, too, then swap the disk and reboot - on first boot it will be a bit slow but will pick up all your hardware and then you can install the right drivers for the controllers.
I've kept the same system across 3 different mobo's with different chipsets and processors - not a glitch.
HTH
If I use a modified version of OpenOffice.org to create a document, I don't have to give up the source code. Why should it be any different with scripts?
So basically I'll have to distribute my PHP scripts to all users of my site because it happens to run on a Linux box? Oh well I am just about ready to switch to a free OS anyway.
Oh my, we're missing you already.
Besides, it's not that we don't understand - we simply don't care. I hope you realize how arrogant you sound by implying that anybody who *understands the truth* would agree with you, therefore those who don't must be stupid. Ever stopped to wonder why most sysadmins, definitely more knowledgeable than you, spend their time scripting their GUI-less systems? It must be because they're all stupid.
From the submission: but how long before we see this resolution in a mobile phone?
Enough with stupid tag questions already! Would submitters and editors please stop with this insanity - we don't need to be *led* into a discussion, we're good enough already.
I thought P2P was used primarily for legal downloads
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And I'm sure if you went to any judge and say X they will get their warrant.
Yeah, the same way it happens when you go to the police and say "This guy here just mugged me". I don't know about the USA but in my country the guy is essentially let free by default. And if you dare defend yourself during the mugging *you* go to jail.
Yeah offtopic and does not apply to this bill, but don't use fallacious arguments, please.
That said, sucks to be you and be treated like this, but I suspect we (Europeans) will follow suit soon enough.
I suppose it wouldn't be that hard to buy some 0 days and code a worm that exploits them to virally install some security suite or at least kill the tcp stack of infected machines. But you would need a covert ops team of a few people and some money to buy the sploits. Who's going to fund this? Besides, it woudln't take long for the bad guys to smell the coffe and become even more secretive about their sploits - I believe they are traded regularly ATM but who knows what might happen if such a scenario were to come into existance.
Sometimes?!
In my country they don't even pretend anymore to govern in the name some Greater Good - it's all about namecalling and pleasing your fanbois by attacking your opponent's ideas, even when they are clearly better.
People criticize me for not voting. I criticize them for supporting this travesty called democracy - which, I dare remind everybody, translates DIRECTLY to "mob rule".
How about c) you read about it on/., play it for a bit, find it a poorly written but certainly controversial game, and pass on because you don't have any strong feelings about it?
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I wouldn't be too sure of this "If you're not and they try something like that, you can sue the living crap out of the people that are doing it, and you'll have lawyers out the door to back you up" argument of yours.
This is so offtopic it's not even funny. Have you ever even considered RTFB? (blurb)
That's fine and all, except it's false. In your so-called "land of the free", private institutions are NOT allowed to refuse to do business with anyone they please. There's a whole slew of anti-discrimination laws that deal with that. I would guess it is forbidden to discriminate against someone for their political beliefs.
Besides, I though your party found Jews bashing to be cool, nowadays.
Excuse me but, he has a point (if said censorship has actually taken place, of course).
Yup, by not having an active credit card at the time you receive the chargeback. I suppose it lands you in legally hot water, though.
That's perfectly fine, if you *decide* that you feel like doing it, by all means go ahead. *Demanding* money, however, is not perfectly fine in such a situation.
I made a point to call my lawn fictional because *I* don't have one - I live in a flat - I understand you have a real one ^_^
... which is pretty much what I was trying to say? I was showing how stupid calling this "extortion" would be. The fact that he is not a professional does not matter here.
I still have to pay a flat tax of 5 euros even when it's a marked as "gift" - if any value is declared I'll pay import taxes on top of this, but there is no escape from the 5 euros tax.
Things are only going to get worse as the dollar sinks lower, the EU parliament has decided that we must be protected from very cheap goods.
Talk about organized crime o.O
I'd find it hard to respect the first guy who comes around and mows my lawn without being asked to and possibily against my wishes, who then proceeds to act like he deserves anything. I'm not sure you realize my fictional lawn is my property.
Wait a second, by your definitions every security consultant in the world is implicitely extorting money from me by not telling me what my weak points are. I am *sure* I have some, yet they won't speak up unless I pay.
It's a professional service. They provide you with info, you pay them.
Well, I for one don't feel like reinstalling and *reconfiguring* all of my productivity suites and servers and services and app settings just because I upgraded to better hardware (or, as in my last switch, a not-running-up-to-80 C-and-then-resetting mobo :D).
You said yourself you'd only reinstall on a test machine.
I switched from an Athlon XP to a Pentium 4 to an AMD 64 and I'm still using the same system.
Revert your controllers drivers to the generic ones that ship with Windows and uninstall your graphic drivers, too, then swap the disk and reboot - on first boot it will be a bit slow but will pick up all your hardware and then you can install the right drivers for the controllers.
I've kept the same system across 3 different mobo's with different chipsets and processors - not a glitch.
HTH
If I use a modified version of OpenOffice.org to create a document, I don't have to give up the source code. Why should it be any different with scripts?
So basically I'll have to distribute my PHP scripts to all users of my site because it happens to run on a Linux box?
Oh well I am just about ready to switch to a free OS anyway.
You have also demonstrated exactly what the GP was talking about.
Which is a *good* thing. That was my whole point.
Oh my, we're missing you already.
Besides, it's not that we don't understand - we simply don't care. I hope you realize how arrogant you sound by implying that anybody who *understands the truth* would agree with you, therefore those who don't must be stupid. Ever stopped to wonder why most sysadmins, definitely more knowledgeable than you, spend their time scripting their GUI-less systems? It must be because they're all stupid.
From the submission: but how long before we see this resolution in a mobile phone?
Enough with stupid tag questions already! Would submitters and editors please stop with this insanity - we don't need to be *led* into a discussion, we're good enough already.
I thought P2P was used primarily for legal downloads
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA oh my...
no wait... gimme a sec... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
*catches breath*
HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA...
And I'm sure if you went to any judge and say X they will get their warrant.
Yeah, the same way it happens when you go to the police and say "This guy here just mugged me". I don't know about the USA but in my country the guy is essentially let free by default. And if you dare defend yourself during the mugging *you* go to jail.
Yeah offtopic and does not apply to this bill, but don't use fallacious arguments, please.
That said, sucks to be you and be treated like this, but I suspect we (Europeans) will follow suit soon enough.
I suppose it wouldn't be that hard to buy some 0 days and code a worm that exploits them to virally install some security suite or at least kill the tcp stack of infected machines. But you would need a covert ops team of a few people and some money to buy the sploits. Who's going to fund this? Besides, it woudln't take long for the bad guys to smell the coffe and become even more secretive about their sploits - I believe they are traded regularly ATM but who knows what might happen if such a scenario were to come into existance.
haße, haße...
Sometimes?!
In my country they don't even pretend anymore to govern in the name some Greater Good - it's all about namecalling and pleasing your fanbois by attacking your opponent's ideas, even when they are clearly better.
People criticize me for not voting. I criticize them for supporting this travesty called democracy - which, I dare remind everybody, translates DIRECTLY to "mob rule".
How about c) you read about it on /., play it for a bit, find it a poorly written but certainly controversial game, and pass on because you don't have any strong feelings about it?