What benefit does having two 360s give you? I don't see why anyone would own two of those. (I am not trying to critcize here. I am just curious about what you do with those.)
"Wow, Nintendo is temporarily offering me a free copy of a program that has always been free before. What a bargain!!"
Always been free before? This is Opera for the Wii. Opera for the Wii has NOT been available previously. Furthermore, your knowledge of history seems to be lacking as even Opera for the PC once had a pricetag other than free on it. Perhaps this page will help you.
It's fun to be smug but only when you know what you're talking about.
"the last time I held a loaded AK a little cross hairs didn't appear in my vision and I couldn't do a headshot at 100 yards just by tapping a mouse button."
"You assumed (Pretty much correctly) that I based this on my small group of friends and what I read on Slashdot."
That sample group is so flawed that I don't understand how you could even believe that it represents anything. Do you know anything about statistics?
"That, and a substantial part of the market for the gamecube was people who had another console."
Past precedence is hardly a good indicator in the console market. In fact, from Atari to Nintendo to Sony, the dominate console manufacturer has repeatedly shifted.
"Even if this is not a totally representative sample,"
Not a totally representative sample? Ha, it's the most flawed sample you could have come up with. Let's see - your group of friends; most likely a group of people in the same age category, market demographic, and general location. Yeah, that's not really going to be useful for considering global sales. And then people on Slashdot - completely worthless since you don't know anything about the people except that they represent a very small percentage of gamers who take part in Internet discussions on gaming. To say that your sample is not "totally representative" is an understatement my friend.
"this does not imply that the actual data is the exact opposite."
Nor did I say it did. The fact is that your little statistical study is so flawed that it is neither a proof for or against the idea that the Wii is nothing more than a second console purchase for most people. My entire thesis was that you cannot make such a statement because you don't have the data to support it either way. Goodness...if you're just trolling here, you've completely baited me.
"I'm basing this on what I've heard and what I know."
So you're pulling it out of thin air; thus there is no reason to believe that your statement regarding how most people view the Wii as a second console choice holds any weight. Glad we got that cleared up.
"Do you have any evidence to counter it, or are you just using the debating technique of Argumentum ad ignorantiam?
You're the one making the wild, unfounded claim. The duty is on you to prove your claim, not for me to disprove it. You're trying to make an argument here. Unless you can convince me that people are viewing the Wii as a second console choice then your argument fails.
"But very few people seem to want a Wii as their only console. $250 vs. $0 is a lot. Especially after buying a powerful console that's more than twice the power of the previous generation."
You've got a statistical study to back that statement up? Or are you basing this on your small group of friends or what you've read in comments posted on Slashdot? Come on...
"I don't see how these are banned books"RTFS. It doesn't say they are banned. It says they were banned or challenged. Does that mean they are currently banned? No. It doesn't even mean that they were ever banned. READ FOR UNDERSTANDING.
"you are going to get challegend on your message, they might even choose at a community level not to stock your book at the library, that doesn't mean that your book has been banned."
Good thing they said that these books were banned OR CHALLENGED.
"Heck most libraries don't carry everything anyway"
Really? Most libraries don't carry every book? I'm shocked. Tell me - what libraries do carry every book? And by every book do you mean every edition ever published of the book or just a copy of every unique book? Furthermore, do abridged versions count as separately unique entities? What's the story on paperback versions with an added footnote from the author? Are those separate entities? Thanks for your help finding and understanding your magic libraries that carry every book! Have a great day!
I never said I wasn't a hypocrite. I replied to you and told you that I was being snide for a reason so I didn't feel it was out of order.
And here you went and looked at some of my other posts for ammunition; great work! I really care about your thoughts and feelings. Please, keep them coming.
"Yes but 90% of those configurations are pretty much known. You can pretty much expect everyone to have x audio card using soundblaster of another companies drives, y video card using Nvidia or ATI drivers, and z prossesor. Are there usually bugs, yeah, but there are s few that often it comes to the buyer not the coder to account and adjust for them, with only the biggest getting patches."
1 configuration vs. (and being really leniant here) 10 configurations. Which is easier to handle? Keep in mind, I never even said that programming for the PC is harder. It's not when compared to a console. They're different beasts with different problems. This idea that one is easier than the other is foolish and could only come from someone who hasn't done work on both (or perhaps isn't even a programmer).
"And thats the Xbox, which unless I am mistake is NOT the enitre market."
Yes, you are a mistake. That's the first accurate thing you've said in your whole post. (But work on the English.)
No one has yet defined how the ease of programming is being judged. You mention the cost of the dev kit and problems associated with testing but why don't you lay it all out there? You're just making vague statements. Anyway, programming isn't easier or harder - it's different.
"Computers are historically simpler to code for, given the ease of access to the hardware, and long history of development on them."
Says who? Ease of access to the hardware? Yeah, because you've got to write for any possible hardware configuration whereas a console is a closed system where the configuration and components are always the same.
"For most consoles, you will have to get a dev kit from the company in order to even start looking into it."
Oh yeah, you can program for the XBox using Microsoft's API or...you can program for a PC using Microsoft's API. Ever hear of DirectX?
"I have yet to code for a console myself.
In other words, you don't know what you're talking about.
What do you mean by this? How do you code for a market? What are you judging 'ease of coding' on? I am really fuzzy on your meaning here but obviously intrigued.
I use the mouse with my left hand but I don't switch the buttons. This probably makes me a lesser FPS player but if I ever use someone else's computer, I don't need to make any adjustments besides switching the mouse to the other side. (And I have used the mouse with the right hand enough so that I don't HAVE TO switch.)
Where's my federal funding for being a downtrodden left-hander?
"I don't see how google can make money doing this when competitors like Projecdt Gutenberg (groups releasing free text of material in the public domain) do the same for free."
Google is merely leading customers to the content providers; not providing or selling the content. And yes, LexisNexis, NewsBank, and Ebsco all make money selling historical archives.
No, but he did put down people who are involved in local activities. If he's going to make the statement that his life is better than people who are in bars or city hall (the fact that that was his idea of what people do is quite telling), then when someone replies and tells him that his lifestyle is inferior, you can't suddenly act like the OP is the victim here.
The guy made a sweeping statement based on poor logic. Someone replied and told him how he was missing the point. It was never a question of whether he was happy; it was a matter of refuting his flawed argument.
And no, he didn't say he was unhappy but he obviously is.
"These guys are hardcore gamers, meaning that they have little to no clout amidst the general public. Hardcore gamers are just a tiny fraction of people who buy consoles."
And you don't think hardcore gamers drive the market? Early adopters are VERY important in this marketplace and that is exactly what the hardcore gamer is.
"I bought a laptop from them expecting a 15" 4:3 screen as pictured on their website when I ordered it. [...] Add to that my X, C, and V keys were DOA, and when I powered up the computer it informed me the CMOS battery was dead."
Come on, you think they didn't note the aspect ratio anywhere on the product page?
The problems with the battery and the keys are irrelevant (as I PREVIOUSLY noted).
Now seriously, you're saying that the alienware website failed to list the aspect ratio of the laptop? Or are you going to go with the guy that is ordering computers based on "pictures"?
I would say that he does owe the restocking fee. Here's why:
If the guy orders a 15", gets a 15" with malfunctioning parts and then requests a replacement of the same exact model, no restocking fee should apply.
What is described is different though. He bought a 15", then decided he wanted a 17". At that point, he's decided to exchange one computer for a different one. The state of the original isn't what should be leading to the restocking fee, I would say the restocking fee should be applied because the guy is returning one item for a completely different one.
"That depends on how you view his "experiment". If you view it as a test for HIS SOFTWARE, his results were pretty clear. But as he stated himself, THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO ALL SOFTWARE, as not all software lends itself to being crippled. Therefor, IT DEPENDS on what kind of software you are trying to peddle. Read TFA again."
You didn't make that point very well. Don't tell me to read the article when you're unable to communicate your thoughts.
My point was merely that the parent to whom I was replying was stating that the concluded result was "it depends." This was not the result being presented.
I was not stating that the results seemed correct to me - merely that they were stated much more precisely than "it depends". Thank you for your time.
"Anyhow, to make a long story short, the limited version outsold the unlimited one. Five to one. Colin calculates that the experiment cost him $17,000 in sales versus having 100% of the installations be limited. Crickey."
The result of the real world test was that a crippled version was much more successful in driving sales than a non-crippled version.
Let's see - you want to leave the tech field and enter stock trading.
So you go to a tech website and ask how to get into working on the floor? With that kind of logic, I can see why you SHOULD leave the tech field.
I'll make it crystal clear for you. If you're a race car driver, asking a fellow race car driver how to become a beekeeper isn't very smart. Ask a beekeeper!
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Got it Eric?
You don't know anything about debate.
I never said I wasn't a hypocrite. I replied to you and told you that I was being snide for a reason so I didn't feel it was out of order.
And here you went and looked at some of my other posts for ammunition; great work! I really care about your thoughts and feelings. Please, keep them coming.
My original post was not snide. I replied in turn. Any other great insight you want to add?
No one has yet defined how the ease of programming is being judged. You mention the cost of the dev kit and problems associated with testing but why don't you lay it all out there? You're just making vague statements. Anyway, programming isn't easier or harder - it's different.
Where's my federal funding for being a downtrodden left-hander?
The guy made a sweeping statement based on poor logic. Someone replied and told him how he was missing the point. It was never a question of whether he was happy; it was a matter of refuting his flawed argument.
And no, he didn't say he was unhappy but he obviously is.
The problems with the battery and the keys are irrelevant (as I PREVIOUSLY noted).
Now seriously, you're saying that the alienware website failed to list the aspect ratio of the laptop? Or are you going to go with the guy that is ordering computers based on "pictures"?
If the guy orders a 15", gets a 15" with malfunctioning parts and then requests a replacement of the same exact model, no restocking fee should apply.
What is described is different though. He bought a 15", then decided he wanted a 17". At that point, he's decided to exchange one computer for a different one. The state of the original isn't what should be leading to the restocking fee, I would say the restocking fee should be applied because the guy is returning one item for a completely different one.
I was not stating that the results seemed correct to me - merely that they were stated much more precisely than "it depends". Thank you for your time.
So you go to a tech website and ask how to get into working on the floor? With that kind of logic, I can see why you SHOULD leave the tech field.
I'll make it crystal clear for you. If you're a race car driver, asking a fellow race car driver how to become a beekeeper isn't very smart. Ask a beekeeper!
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