Well, repairing computers is obviously stealing from manufacturers of new ones and re-using valid Windows licenses is obviously stealing from MS! This person got what he deserved for his unpatriotic, almost treasonous actions. True Americans throw things away when they get old or break! This person was trying to sabotage capitalism and the rich getting richer. We cannot have that. So I am 100% behind this ruling, except that the sentence is wayyyy to lenient. Maybe we can find some terrorism charge in there as well? Maybe something like "inciting people to not buy new computers" or the like? After all, this _is_ threatening the stabiliy of society, just like terrorism.
We are in the exploration and design phase. That is when both old and new run in parallel. As soon as the new way (automated) works, most of the old jobs just go away. And there are no blank areas anymore they could go to. For example, the popular historical precedent of automated weaving ignores that most people did not have a lot of clothing before and hence there was ample opportunity for growth. Today, all these needs are covered and efficiently so. We kept jobs available by bureaucracy and to a degree, by having wars. Bureaucracy is the next automation target and wars have become prohibitively expensive. And there is no new field to move people into that is actually driven by a real need (except the individual need to "do something").
It is a medium-to-long-range thing. Tesla tried to do it too fast. You have to have a working, optimized assembly process before you can successfully automatize, i.e. they tried to cut out a major step any good engineers knows is absolutely critical. Now they are paying the price for that incompetent decision. The problem is probably that Musk is not actually a good engineer but fancies himself one. (He is a very good businessman though.)
Academic education with the right mindset can do the same. I have an engineering PhD in the CS area and my job description is pretty similar to yours. But, just like you, I do not get called for the simple stuff. It is always when regular guys do not know what to do anymore.
My take would be that anybody that is really good at their job is basically safe this time, but that is a small group.
Indeed. And this time, there is not much left that actually _needs_ doing and was not done before. Each time before, that was the case. Food, shelter, clothing, transportation, entertainment, bureaucracy (apparently a human need...), all hacked now and all scaling or about to scale. So yes, we will find something to do, but the time were it was driven by need (other than to do something with one's time) is over and that is the real difference this time. That has not happened ever before, except to small classes of society.
I really don't understand how people can continue to make this argument. It does not appear that this time is going to be like the previous times.
People are, on average, stupid. The ones that make this argument are afraid in addition and are trying hard to ignore reality by explaining it away. Said stupidity is the core reason this time will be different, because before it was always a shift to other jobs that the average idiot could still do. This time is different, because while most people can learn to read and write (making them capable to be bureaucrats as a last resort and we certainly have a lot of those today), this shift will only create a small number of new jobs and these will have requirements that 95% of the population cannot meet. The ones that are safe are engineers and craftsmen, because these do custom jobs were automation does not help, since automation scales with repetition of the same or similar jobs. ("Where "similar" is getting broader and broader...) Everybody else is fair game this time, with many jobs not about to be eliminated but to be done by a much smaller number of people because they only get to do the jobs that the automation cannot hack.
The motivation does actually not matter much. They are doing it and they are gaining a lot of insight and experience doing it. Experience and insight that others lack. Just look at examples like Germany, which apparently cannot build Airports anymore, or the US that has trouble keeping its electrical grid functioning. That is extreme loss of former capabilities right there. In large scale engineering (just like in any engineering really), you need to keep doing it to be able to keep doing it. Much of the West seems to have forgotten that.
Indeed, and not only for tech reasons, but also because it is one decision and one installation, not millions of them.
As to the US, even more so than the rest of the West, it is in a phase of stagnation, of the rich and powerful trying to preserve what they have. That blocks changes like nothing else does. It is extreme irony that of all countries China is a forerunner that actually innovates large-scale in this area. And while their country is much larger (albeit much of it not industrialized), they are gathering a lot of experience to plan the next step and for that overall size does not matter, but size of the experiments does.
Stop using cheap manipulation tricks. Maybe read the reports of the European and Swiss data protection commissioners? You are _uninformed_ or pretend to be (which is worse).
Same here. There is no real need for a GUI to support much else than application launch and window positioning in the first place. MS seems desperate to prevent people from noticing...
For any information _at_ _all_ to be sent to MS from _your_ computer in a non-obvious fashion, they need an explicit opt-in. EULA does not cover it. It does not matter what the information is.
By European standards, MS is a criminal enterprise at this time because of this. Unfortunately, data protection is still not taken seriously here and the respective laws are not enforced or it takes forever. My personal plan is to have a Win10 box (when I cannot avoid it anymore) used for nothing but gaming and gaming-related surfing and put everything else on a Linux machine, including an aggressively firewalled Win10 VM for MS office use (cannot get rid of that because customers).
It is a sad state of affairs where you have to regard major software vendors as the enemy. Kind of a tech version of fascism.
Facebook, as much as I despise them, does not cause this. The people that do these things are broken and do not qualify as modern human beings, Facebook is just a communications channel here. These people would lynch others even with no electronic communications at all, as they are basically glorified cavemen.
Actually, German typing rules still allow the use of en "oe" if you do not have the Umlaut on the Keyboard. (I do not have umlauts, as the ineptitude of the designers of the German keyboard layout has really messed it up. I use the "EU" layout.) It is surprising how many Germans do no know that tough and complain. "Koln" is definitely wrong though.
Basically, because there will be no choice. The alternative is a complete collapse of capitalism and of society as a result. But his prediction on AI is just completely uninformed and insightless nonsense. At this time, AI is all weak AI, i.e. the AI without the "I". There is no reason to believe this will change anytime soon.
While Trump is only a somewhat good example of this (he lacks the "really smart" part), he is basically just a symptom. After all, he did not vote himself into office (although no doubt he would have done that if possible). No, the problem is a more general one. "Smart" is over, people want simple recipes (sure to fail) because they a) have been screwed over too often but b) they do not understand how that actually did work. The problem is that complex recipes also often fail (but have a chance of actually working) and that, time and again, they have been promised far more than could ever have been given. There is ample historic precedent for this situation and none of it good.
A large German news site (Der Spiegel) recently tried that aggressively. My response was to basically stop reading it. After a few weeks they went back to the old scheme, which tells me they were bleeding traders.
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Well, repairing computers is obviously stealing from manufacturers of new ones and re-using valid Windows licenses is obviously stealing from MS! This person got what he deserved for his unpatriotic, almost treasonous actions. True Americans throw things away when they get old or break! This person was trying to sabotage capitalism and the rich getting richer. We cannot have that. So I am 100% behind this ruling, except that the sentence is wayyyy to lenient. Maybe we can find some terrorism charge in there as well? Maybe something like "inciting people to not buy new computers" or the like? After all, this _is_ threatening the stabiliy of society, just like terrorism.
I want to say exactly what I said. Your points are just a consequence of what I said. Also, arrogance much?
We are in the exploration and design phase. That is when both old and new run in parallel. As soon as the new way (automated) works, most of the old jobs just go away. And there are no blank areas anymore they could go to. For example, the popular historical precedent of automated weaving ignores that most people did not have a lot of clothing before and hence there was ample opportunity for growth. Today, all these needs are covered and efficiently so. We kept jobs available by bureaucracy and to a degree, by having wars. Bureaucracy is the next automation target and wars have become prohibitively expensive. And there is no new field to move people into that is actually driven by a real need (except the individual need to "do something").
It is a medium-to-long-range thing. Tesla tried to do it too fast. You have to have a working, optimized assembly process before you can successfully automatize, i.e. they tried to cut out a major step any good engineers knows is absolutely critical. Now they are paying the price for that incompetent decision. The problem is probably that Musk is not actually a good engineer but fancies himself one. (He is a very good businessman though.)
Academic education with the right mindset can do the same. I have an engineering PhD in the CS area and my job description is pretty similar to yours. But, just like you, I do not get called for the simple stuff. It is always when regular guys do not know what to do anymore.
My take would be that anybody that is really good at their job is basically safe this time, but that is a small group.
Indeed. And this time, there is not much left that actually _needs_ doing and was not done before. Each time before, that was the case. Food, shelter, clothing, transportation, entertainment, bureaucracy (apparently a human need...), all hacked now and all scaling or about to scale. So yes, we will find something to do, but the time were it was driven by need (other than to do something with one's time) is over and that is the real difference this time. That has not happened ever before, except to small classes of society.
I really don't understand how people can continue to make this argument. It does not appear that this time is going to be like the previous times.
People are, on average, stupid. The ones that make this argument are afraid in addition and are trying hard to ignore reality by explaining it away. Said stupidity is the core reason this time will be different, because before it was always a shift to other jobs that the average idiot could still do. This time is different, because while most people can learn to read and write (making them capable to be bureaucrats as a last resort and we certainly have a lot of those today), this shift will only create a small number of new jobs and these will have requirements that 95% of the population cannot meet. The ones that are safe are engineers and craftsmen, because these do custom jobs were automation does not help, since automation scales with repetition of the same or similar jobs. ("Where "similar" is getting broader and broader...) Everybody else is fair game this time, with many jobs not about to be eliminated but to be done by a much smaller number of people because they only get to do the jobs that the automation cannot hack.
You think the half a century old "old wreckage" class reactors the West runs today are any better?
The motivation does actually not matter much. They are doing it and they are gaining a lot of insight and experience doing it. Experience and insight that others lack. Just look at examples like Germany, which apparently cannot build Airports anymore, or the US that has trouble keeping its electrical grid functioning. That is extreme loss of former capabilities right there. In large scale engineering (just like in any engineering really), you need to keep doing it to be able to keep doing it. Much of the West seems to have forgotten that.
Indeed, and not only for tech reasons, but also because it is one decision and one installation, not millions of them.
As to the US, even more so than the rest of the West, it is in a phase of stagnation, of the rich and powerful trying to preserve what they have. That blocks changes like nothing else does. It is extreme irony that of all countries China is a forerunner that actually innovates large-scale in this area. And while their country is much larger (albeit much of it not industrialized), they are gathering a lot of experience to plan the next step and for that overall size does not matter, but size of the experiments does.
Stop using cheap manipulation tricks. Maybe read the reports of the European and Swiss data protection commissioners? You are _uninformed_ or pretend to be (which is worse).
Same here. There is no real need for a GUI to support much else than application launch and window positioning in the first place. MS seems desperate to prevent people from noticing...
Indeed. If they were clean, they would not need to care at all.
You claim MS is not transferring data in the background? Got any proof for that? Because there is ample indication to the contrary...
For any information _at_ _all_ to be sent to MS from _your_ computer in a non-obvious fashion, they need an explicit opt-in. EULA does not cover it. It does not matter what the information is.
By European standards, MS is a criminal enterprise at this time because of this. Unfortunately, data protection is still not taken seriously here and the respective laws are not enforced or it takes forever. My personal plan is to have a Win10 box (when I cannot avoid it anymore) used for nothing but gaming and gaming-related surfing and put everything else on a Linux machine, including an aggressively firewalled Win10 VM for MS office use (cannot get rid of that because customers).
It is a sad state of affairs where you have to regard major software vendors as the enemy. Kind of a tech version of fascism.
Facebook, as much as I despise them, does not cause this. The people that do these things are broken and do not qualify as modern human beings, Facebook is just a communications channel here. These people would lynch others even with no electronic communications at all, as they are basically glorified cavemen.
And it shows what this really is about: Some desperate losers trying to perpetuate the scam. Despicable.
They participated in that? Thanks, I did not know that. May decide to drop them after all....
Actually, German typing rules still allow the use of en "oe" if you do not have the Umlaut on the Keyboard. (I do not have umlauts, as the ineptitude of the designers of the German keyboard layout has really messed it up. I use the "EU" layout.) It is surprising how many Germans do no know that tough and complain. "Koln" is definitely wrong though.
Basically, because there will be no choice. The alternative is a complete collapse of capitalism and of society as a result. But his prediction on AI is just completely uninformed and insightless nonsense. At this time, AI is all weak AI, i.e. the AI without the "I". There is no reason to believe this will change anytime soon.
Correct.
While Trump is only a somewhat good example of this (he lacks the "really smart" part), he is basically just a symptom. After all, he did not vote himself into office (although no doubt he would have done that if possible). No, the problem is a more general one. "Smart" is over, people want simple recipes (sure to fail) because they a) have been screwed over too often but b) they do not understand how that actually did work. The problem is that complex recipes also often fail (but have a chance of actually working) and that, time and again, they have been promised far more than could ever have been given. There is ample historic precedent for this situation and none of it good.
A large German news site (Der Spiegel) recently tried that aggressively. My response was to basically stop reading it. After a few weeks they went back to the old scheme, which tells me they were bleeding traders.
German law is fu**** in the head in many regards. This is just one of them. Not that Germany is somehow exceptional in this regard.