Americans are not ignorant we have a wide list of inventions. We invented:
* The Steam Locomotive
* The Tank
* The Automobile
* The Jet Engine
* Magnetic Recording
* Cathode Ray Tube Oscilloscope
* The V-2 Missile
* Movable Type Printing Press
* Four-Stroke Internal-Combustion Engine
* Braille Printing
* The Eiffel Tower
I read somewhere that Microsoft developers write something like 1,000 lines of code a year
As someone who interned there twice and knows lots of devs there, that's BS. In about 3 months working on my project I wrote around 10,000 lines of code. There are devs who wrote more than that in my org.
Sure, there are weeks or even months when the devs write 0 lines of production code, but that's because they're designing. There's always some downtime after a product shipped, and during that time devs usually go to some training sessions and start designing and prototyping for the next version.
The movies aren't HD quality because even with average cable/DSL speeds the bandwidth required would be prohibitive. Don't expect to see super high quality downloadable movies until we have fiber to the home.
What about the Xbox360 movies? They're HD quality. Plus, if bandwitdh would _really_ be the issue, they could offer non-HD and HD versions for the movies.
All I have to say is that I have a sore shoulder from playing Wii Sports. The games are very simplistic, yet so much fun. Boxing is great, if you don't mind the guy not punching _exactly_ as you moved, but the sweat will make you feel much better. My suggestion:
play some boxing, after a few games switch to some tennis and/or baseball, which can be played while sitting down. Just watch that forearm, or you'll end up like me:-p
Sooner or later, all the bugs in Firefox will be ironed out, and it will be considered bulletproof
You must be new to software engineering:) This will never happen with any software. The only way that would be possible is if you freeze the code, then ONLY fix bugs. Even then you have the possibility of creating a new bug from fixing a bug.
That's never going to happen tho. And the more features you add, the more bugs you add, regardless of open/closed source.
My problem is not that bugs exist, it's unavoidable, it's how they're handled that's important.
Common, your product gets infected because of some slopiness, and you blame another company??
If Jobs doesn't like it, then stop making the iPod work on Windows. How would he like it if all of a sudden the iPod would be "disabled" by MS? He'd sue the living hell out of them (and for good reason).
Take the responsability for the screw up and fix it.
That's one thing that Microsoft doesn't get--they want the most features possible and so they end up releasing a lot of stuff, that while it sounds cool, often doesn't work as advertised until a couple of service packs later.
And that's partly why MS has >90% of the market, while Apple has 5%:)
That remains to be seen, right now we have some optimism from the devs working there, but who knows if they'll remain on the project in a few months, and also where the project will go w/o Reiser.
If it was closed source, and the lead developer was more than just a cog in a large corporation, who could/would pick up the slack?
Lead devs leave companies all the time. If you have good stanards for documenting your work, and smart people on the team working on that project, someone else will step up, or they can just hire someone else.
not sure if you really need a _kernel_ space driver for that in Vista
Loopback mounts
can be done in userspace
Volume encryption
can be done in userspace
Rootkit detection
if you have to have kernel space require signed drivers, you'll most likely minimize the chance of a rootkit for that area to almost 0, so you can then just have to check userspace, thus a kernel level driver is not required Packet sniffing
can be done in userspace
VPN software
can be done in userspace
Unless we're talking about some hardware piece, I don't want drivers touching my kernel, and people really need to stop putting stuff in the kernel space. If I buy some hardware piece that needs a kernel space driver, they can pay $500 for a license...
I think there are more benefits than constraints:hmm:
Mac OS X was designed as a much more forward-thinking system than Windows
Windows was designed in the early 90s, when all you had were a few megs of ram and an isolated machine.
OSX was designed in the late 90s when it was more than obvious that sooner or later all machines will be connected.
Regardless on the architecture, software/people will change so dramatically in less than a decade that what seemes to be tight security now will be a joke then.
There are 2 serious issues in the OS world:
1. things change at an unpredictable rate to unpredictable things 2. the more you build on top of your things, the more complex you get, and thus have more issues. It happened with Windows, it's starting to happen with OSX, and to some extent Linux.
Symantec wasnt only complaining about their own software, but _all_ security products. They are saying (true or not is a different story) that no other security software except microsoft's own will run well on vista.
So far that is crap, I've been able to run other security software on the Beta/RC builds of Vista. And if other security products won't work, it will be because of _them_ using undocumented API calls, which MS is under no obligation to support.
Not to mention, what Symantec is really upset about here is that their entire business model is under threat.
Integrating PDF into apps is a must? Seriously? It took me less than 10 secs on google to find three different free solutions that would add a printer able to create PDF's
1. My parents wouldn't have been able to do that, at least not in 10 secs. 2. ALL other competitors are allowed to have FREE Save-As-PDF functionality (OO, OSX, Writely). However Adobe doesn't want MS to offer PDF support for free. Because of that now it'll take a stupid patch to enable PDF support, as well as XPS (which MS took out also). This is total crap from Adobe.
ets lock everyone down to one format that only runs on windows, instead of using PDF which is available on lots of OS'es.
From 2., MS took out XPS support from O12 and will be included in the same patch that enables PDF functionality. They were under no obligation to remove it, they did is as a sign of good faith. They would've probably been sued later because they're promoting _their_ format, but I think they could've fought that battle, since Adobe wants to charge people money for functionality already avaiable for free.
MS rarely makes the best apps but lots of people use them because they are there, with Windows. I dont like it. I dont like IE and I really really dont like MSN for example.
I'm with you on this one. Until IE7, I've used only Firefox/Opera on Windows boxes, I don't use MSN for anything, and in all honesty I don't really use Windows. It's my choice, and there are options. Do you honestely think that even if you could remove IE, for example, from Windows, OEM manufacturers would remove it?? If you wouldn't have IE shipped with Windows, how would you get Firefox easily?
Look at Apple - can you remove Safari? Heck no. I don't like it, so i use firefox/camino.
I am definately _not_ with Microsoft on this one.
That's because of a grudge on MS, not because of logical arguments. As much as I bitch about MS, I hate Symantec and Adobe more for the shit they've done with their products, and MS is in a lose-lose situation.
try:
f = open('number.txt','r').read()
x = int(f.read()) #convert the contents of a file to an int
except IOError:
print "number.txt wasn't found"
except ValueError:
print "contents weren't a number"
except:
print "Unknown Error"
finally:
f.close()
The only reason EU is doing this is because Symantec has been bitching about this. They're scared shitless because their entire business model is around fixing someone else's problems.
And frankly, I've had experience with Symantec, and it's awful. I haven't played with OneCare yet, but I've heard good things about it.
what's looking more and more like XP SP3, super digital restriction.
While lots (could say almost all) cool features were removed from this Vista launch (SP1 will be huge), Vista is _not_ XP SP3 by any means. I've used Vista at work daily on my desktop, and now I can't stand it when I have to work on XP.
There have been lots of kernel changes, new TCP/IP stack, LUA and UAC, _lots_ of things were put in userspace where they belong and others. Not to mention that Vista is built on the Windows 2003 Server kernel, not the XP one (yes, they all come from the NT kernel, but 2k3 is more solid than XP IMHO).
Is it everything I wanted in an OS, course not, there's no OS that has that, and I use lots:) But it's no SP for XP, that's just FUD.
Give me a break. Everyone knows Slashdot is biased, but this is getting to be an obsession.
The IE team broken compatiblity with previous versions of IE _just_ to make it more standards compliant.
Writely works fine in Opera if you "fake" it, yet nobody complains about that. Google is pushing Firefox and Opera as good alternatives, yet they don't fully support Opera (I have to see if Spreadsheet works no in Opera, I recall GMail having huge issues in Opera). Writely doesn't work at all in Safari, and Google provides some excuse, everyone says OK.
You don't like IE/Microsoft, that's fine, use something else. But cut the crap with the paranoia.
If WGA is wrong (Microsoft? Bugs? Never!) then a legit copy of Windows may go inactive with a major hassle to get it working again.
Has that happened to anyone yet? I don't know anybody who had a legit copy of Windows and got screwed over with WGA.
Also, I don't think MS will actually shut down Windows machines just yet, too many issues with that:
1. They're scared of the situation mentioned above 2. If they do it they have to make sure you can't get around it (easily) 3. LOTS of their software is pirated in countries from Eastern Europe, Asia etc., and it's not clear what would happen if they all of a sudden can't run Windows. One thing is pretty certain, they're not going to actually purchase Windows.
Guess it remains to be seen, but until people actually have real issues with WGA, I think it's just the "bitching of the moment" and is not warranted.
Some lady has a weak password and her Windows box gets owned, MS sucks, Windows blows (now the fact that she _does_ run as an Administrator doesn't help).
_developers_ working for one of the most popular open source projects have weak passwords, there is a _kernel_ exploit, and people defend it still.
FYI I run Linux, OSX and Windows on my machines, but common...why can't we all just get along and admit there are problems with software regardless of the company, mdoel etc.::waking back up to reality::
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Incorrect. RIAA needs to prove he's guilty, he doesn't have to prove he's innocent.
Americans are not ignorant we have a wide list of inventions. We invented:
* The Steam Locomotive
* The Tank
* The Automobile
* The Jet Engine
* Magnetic Recording
* Cathode Ray Tube Oscilloscope
* The V-2 Missile
* Movable Type Printing Press
* Four-Stroke Internal-Combustion Engine
* Braille Printing
* The Eiffel Tower
Let's not forget the Internet
I read somewhere that Microsoft developers write something like 1,000 lines of code a year
As someone who interned there twice and knows lots of devs there, that's BS. In about 3 months working on my project I wrote around 10,000 lines of code. There are devs who wrote more than that in my org.
Sure, there are weeks or even months when the devs write 0 lines of production code, but that's because they're designing. There's always some downtime after a product shipped, and during that time devs usually go to some training sessions and start designing and prototyping for the next version.
The movies aren't HD quality because even with average cable/DSL speeds the bandwidth required would be prohibitive. Don't expect to see super high quality downloadable movies until we have fiber to the home.
What about the Xbox360 movies? They're HD quality. Plus, if bandwitdh would _really_ be the issue, they could offer non-HD and HD versions for the movies.
All I have to say is that I have a sore shoulder from playing Wii Sports. The games are very simplistic, yet so much fun. Boxing is great, if you don't mind the guy not punching _exactly_ as you moved, but the sweat will make you feel much better. My suggestion:
:-p
play some boxing, after a few games switch to some tennis and/or baseball, which can be played while sitting down. Just watch that forearm, or you'll end up like me
Good job Nintendo!
Sooner or later, all the bugs in Firefox will be ironed out, and it will be considered bulletproof
:) This will never happen with any software. The only way that would be possible is if you freeze the code, then ONLY fix bugs. Even then you have the possibility of creating a new bug from fixing a bug.
You must be new to software engineering
That's never going to happen tho. And the more features you add, the more bugs you add, regardless of open/closed source.
My problem is not that bugs exist, it's unavoidable, it's how they're handled that's important.
And when you'll be able to make copies of your car/house and give them to your friends and such, then your comparison will be valid.
Windows is not ALWAYS using a database managed installation system. MSI is aimed to fix that
Common, your product gets infected because of some slopiness, and you blame another company??
If Jobs doesn't like it, then stop making the iPod work on Windows. How would he like it if all of a sudden the iPod would be "disabled" by MS? He'd sue the living hell out of them (and for good reason).
Take the responsability for the screw up and fix it.
That's one thing that Microsoft doesn't get--they want the most features possible and so they end up releasing a lot of stuff, that while it sounds cool, often doesn't work as advertised until a couple of service packs later.
:)
And that's partly why MS has >90% of the market, while Apple has 5%
This means the project *is* not dead
That remains to be seen, right now we have some optimism from the devs working there, but who knows if they'll remain on the project in a few months, and also where the project will go w/o Reiser.
If it was closed source, and the lead developer was more than just a cog in a large corporation, who could/would pick up the slack?
Lead devs leave companies all the time. If you have good stanards for documenting your work, and smart people on the team working on that project, someone else will step up, or they can just hire someone else.
Installable file systems
:hmm:
not sure if you really need a _kernel_ space driver for that in Vista
Loopback mounts
can be done in userspace
Volume encryption
can be done in userspace
Rootkit detection
if you have to have kernel space require signed drivers, you'll most likely minimize the chance of a rootkit for that area to almost 0, so you can then just have to check userspace, thus a kernel level driver is not required
Packet sniffing
can be done in userspace
VPN software
can be done in userspace
Unless we're talking about some hardware piece, I don't want drivers touching my kernel, and people really need to stop putting stuff in the kernel space. If I buy some hardware piece that needs a kernel space driver, they can pay $500 for a license...
I think there are more benefits than constraints
Mac OS X was designed as a much more forward-thinking system than Windows
...
Windows was designed in the early 90s, when all you had were a few megs of ram and an isolated machine.
OSX was designed in the late 90s when it was more than obvious that sooner or later all machines will be connected.
Regardless on the architecture, software/people will change so dramatically in less than a decade that what seemes to be tight security now will be a joke then.
There are 2 serious issues in the OS world:
1. things change at an unpredictable rate to unpredictable things
2. the more you build on top of your things, the more complex you get, and thus have more issues. It happened with Windows, it's starting to happen with OSX, and to some extent Linux.
It's just an arms race
Symantec wasnt only complaining about their own software, but _all_ security products. They are saying (true or not is a different story) that no other security software except microsoft's own will run well on vista.
So far that is crap, I've been able to run other security software on the Beta/RC builds of Vista. And if other security products won't work, it will be because of _them_ using undocumented API calls, which MS is under no obligation to support.
Not to mention, what Symantec is really upset about here is that their entire business model is under threat.
Integrating PDF into apps is a must? Seriously? It took me less than 10 secs on google to find three different free solutions that would add a printer able to create PDF's
1. My parents wouldn't have been able to do that, at least not in 10 secs.
2. ALL other competitors are allowed to have FREE Save-As-PDF functionality (OO, OSX, Writely). However Adobe doesn't want MS to offer PDF support for free. Because of that now it'll take a stupid patch to enable PDF support, as well as XPS (which MS took out also). This is total crap from Adobe.
ets lock everyone down to one format that only runs on windows, instead of using PDF which is available on lots of OS'es.
From 2., MS took out XPS support from O12 and will be included in the same patch that enables PDF functionality. They were under no obligation to remove it, they did is as a sign of good faith. They would've probably been sued later because they're promoting _their_ format, but I think they could've fought that battle, since Adobe wants to charge people money for functionality already avaiable for free.
MS rarely makes the best apps but lots of people use them because they are there, with Windows. I dont like it. I dont like IE and I really really dont like MSN for example.
I'm with you on this one. Until IE7, I've used only Firefox/Opera on Windows boxes, I don't use MSN for anything, and in all honesty I don't really use Windows. It's my choice, and there are options. Do you honestely think that even if you could remove IE, for example, from Windows, OEM manufacturers would remove it?? If you wouldn't have IE shipped with Windows, how would you get Firefox easily?
Look at Apple - can you remove Safari? Heck no. I don't like it, so i use firefox/camino.
I am definately _not_ with Microsoft on this one.
That's because of a grudge on MS, not because of logical arguments. As much as I bitch about MS, I hate Symantec and Adobe more for the shit they've done with their products, and MS is in a lose-lose situation.
try:
foo = someDict[key]
except KeyError:
return None
return myCrazyFunction(foo)
Wouldn't this do the same thing tho?
try:
f = open('number.txt','r').read()
x = int(f.read()) #convert the contents of a file to an int
except IOError:
print "number.txt wasn't found"
except ValueError:
print "contents weren't a number"
except:
print "Unknown Error"
finally:
f.close()
This works exactly as the "new" way.
That's just silly tho. This would have the same effect:
try:
do stuff that can throw exception
print 'no exception'
except:
print 'oops'
The only reason EU is doing this is because Symantec has been bitching about this. They're scared shitless because their entire business model is around fixing someone else's problems.
And frankly, I've had experience with Symantec, and it's awful. I haven't played with OneCare yet, but I've heard good things about it.
what's looking more and more like XP SP3, super digital restriction.
:) But it's no SP for XP, that's just FUD.
While lots (could say almost all) cool features were removed from this Vista launch (SP1 will be huge), Vista is _not_ XP SP3 by any means. I've used Vista at work daily on my desktop, and now I can't stand it when I have to work on XP.
There have been lots of kernel changes, new TCP/IP stack, LUA and UAC, _lots_ of things were put in userspace where they belong and others. Not to mention that Vista is built on the Windows 2003 Server kernel, not the XP one (yes, they all come from the NT kernel, but 2k3 is more solid than XP IMHO).
Is it everything I wanted in an OS, course not, there's no OS that has that, and I use lots
SP2, Firefox, Opera and IE7-beta3 and she's been good for ages now.
:)
You put on your _aunt's_ computer on _dial-up_ Firefox AND Opera AND IE7b3?
I don't even have all those browsers on _one_ machine
weird .. i have the SDA from T-Mobile and I haven't had any crashes whatsoever.
The only complaint is that it takes about 30 seconds to get back the signal if it loses it
Give me a break. Everyone knows Slashdot is biased, but this is getting to be an obsession.
The IE team broken compatiblity with previous versions of IE _just_ to make it more standards compliant.
Writely works fine in Opera if you "fake" it, yet nobody complains about that. Google is pushing Firefox and Opera as good alternatives, yet they don't fully support Opera (I have to see if Spreadsheet works no in Opera, I recall GMail having huge issues in Opera).
Writely doesn't work at all in Safari, and Google provides some excuse, everyone says OK.
You don't like IE/Microsoft, that's fine, use something else. But cut the crap with the paranoia.
EMI music videos to land on Zune
If WGA is wrong (Microsoft? Bugs? Never!) then a legit copy of Windows may go inactive with a major hassle to get it working again.
Has that happened to anyone yet? I don't know anybody who had a legit copy of Windows and got screwed over with WGA.
Also, I don't think MS will actually shut down Windows machines just yet, too many issues with that:
1. They're scared of the situation mentioned above
2. If they do it they have to make sure you can't get around it (easily)
3. LOTS of their software is pirated in countries from Eastern Europe, Asia etc., and it's not clear what would happen if they all of a sudden can't run Windows. One thing is pretty certain, they're not going to actually purchase Windows.
Guess it remains to be seen, but until people actually have real issues with WGA, I think it's just the "bitching of the moment" and is not warranted.
Some lady has a weak password and her Windows box gets owned, MS sucks, Windows blows (now the fact that she _does_ run as an Administrator doesn't help).
::waking back up to reality::
_developers_ working for one of the most popular open source projects have weak passwords, there is a _kernel_ exploit, and people defend it still.
FYI I run Linux, OSX and Windows on my machines, but common...why can't we all just get along and admit there are problems with software regardless of the company, mdoel etc.