It might be more intuitive for younger people (who play too much Xbox), but it isn't necessarily the best tool for the job.
You're talking about it being intuitive for young people, and in the same breath you say it's not the best tool for the job. What you are complaining about is a steep learning curve, and that you are unwilling to invest the time to learn it since you work well enough (by your standards) with the tools you have already learned.
The best tool for the job is actually a compromise between the learning curve, how well and how fast you can get your job done with that particular tool. You can have any two. Microsoft and Mozilla are implicitly making an argument that the steeper learning curve will result in more productivity. They are (most likely) assuming that the average user has gotten used to the new UI, that computer users are more tech savvy than before and intelligent enough to make the leap to a new UI. Even though we are complainers here on/. I like to think we are also capable of adopting a UI concept that will ultimately result in better productivity.
And, by the way, I didn't like the ribbon in the beginning either.
If we were to shift blame, I would go as far to say that what's really to blame is corporate interests (i.e. money) making their way into government and civil services, either through necessity generated from public outcry -- for example, we need less guns, I know! let's use tasers! --, or through corrupt policy makers who are in bed with these corporations. You can't blame the company that sells these bad boys for wanting to sell them. That's inherently what doing business is all about, even if they do have a genuinely evil product
Also, I'm happy to say my RAM is clear of llamas, but full of rams.
I can tell you I was on AT&T before it was even called Cingular. The quality of the network, especially voice, has reduced dramatically since the iPhone was introduced. A particular annoyance is the amount of dropped calls I have been experiencing, and that happened right around the time they stopped airing those funny "Tired of dropped calls?" commercials, which I think coincides with the iPhone release date (can anyone back me up on that?) i used all sorts of phones: RAZR, Samsung flip phone, Q, and iPhone, and it was the same across the board
The good news is, the quality of my Apple stock went up 50% since the introduction of iPhone...
Dragging their feet deliberately sounds shady, if not illegal. IANAL, but I think a developer could take Apple to court to sue for lost sales, couldn't he?? (I mean, in the event he resubmits the app again, w/o the interpreter)
I personally think Apple should stick to some kind of rule as to how long a developer has to wait before the app is approved, and pay out monetary damages in case it's been months and the app hasn't been approved yet (Google Voice comes to mind).
This may be a woosh moment, but just in case you were serious: considering 50% (.50) of an hour is half an hour, I'll let you reconsider your final answer...
It is an upgrade, true, but ALL Apple OS sales are upgrades, they don't just sell a 'full install' because there has never been mac that went out the door without an OS on it.
This is most interesting to me. I wonder if you can buy an Apple computer and attempt to return the OS X installation disk and get a refund for its value, like a lot of folks have done with various net/notebooks that came with Windows. Of course, I anticipate they will flatly refuse, so then the question is are they legally allowed to refuse?
It must be me, but this story sounds like it was written by a whiny 16-year old who just got his driver's license. You mean, WALK an entire HALF of a block?!? GOD FORBID you stretch your legs out upwards of 20 feet. And then you have to WAIT FOR THE RECEIPT TO BE PRINTED?!?! O-M-G that takes forever, like 20 seconds at least. The world will END in that time...
Here's the thing: stateless works everywhere there is any internet connectivity. Imagine having to define a long-lasting stateful protocol around slow and unreliable internet connections. But I do agree that the current model is inherently broken, and maybe we can get away with defining short-term stateful protocols that could revert back to stateless....?
Sorry, I have to disagree. There is no right or wrong, as far as thin vs. thick clients are concerned -- it's really what's best for the job. Processing on the client side can be a good thing, as long as it's not abused (like it is with ajax).
haha that reminds me of a movie called Suburban Commando (arguably, the best Hulk Hogan movie ever)
Troublemaker: Do you have any idea what we are gonna do to you If we find one itty bitty scratch on them?
Shep Ramsey: Lemme guess. You're gonna pound my face, break every bone in my body, then you're gonna drag my body down a gravel road, and feed my remains to a wart hog. Is that about right?
Troubemaker: What are you nuts? This is the '90s. We're gonna sue you.
Or they could just use fingerprint data + a unique pin number to generate a number for you, that you can change once a year (or in cases of fraud), and only with the use of your print. Then, of course, they could issue RSA keys for total security too "Something you have (token) + something you know (pin) + something you are (fingerprint or iris or dna)"
Although, I suspect this opens up a whole new can of worms...
I don't see why there isn't a standard that says to use something like a Driver's license number, run it through an irreversible algorithm that uniquely identifies the DL number (something similar to md5 but which is guaranteed to be unique). Wouldn't that solve these stupid problems??
you don't have to go through the Apple Store to have an app placed on the iPhone
That is only true in three scenarios:
1. You have a jailbroken phone, and all bets are off.
2. You are distributing in ad-hoc mode, and you're not going through the Apple Store. HOWEVER, you do need to get your certificate (not sure if you have to have it approved still?), and once you get that straightened out, you are good to go.
3. You are an iPhone developer, and you have set up a provisioning profile to use with XCode. You can install your app on up to 100 devices to test. (no, you can't remove and then add, it's 100-lifetime devices).
On the other hand, if you own a Pre device, and you are able to sync with iTunes today, and the only thing that changes is an iTunes update, there's a chance the consumers will blame Apple. Palm is banking on this, and most-assuredly they will have tech support tell them *not* to upgrade to the latest version of iTunes (or to downgrade).
It's not an amateurish play on Pre's part, but a very, very risky one -- but if it does work, and they are able to smear Apple's image enough to gain a few points with consumers, it might just work out for them. My guess is that Palm is working on its own version of iTunes + Music Store that is not ready yet, and they are trying to smear Apple enough to win over some customers in the end. Risky indeed.
There used to be a version for Mac OS called MacAMP. Not sure if this is the right one, but give it a shot (looks like it died a few years back and is starting to get resurrected)
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It might be more intuitive for younger people (who play too much Xbox), but it isn't necessarily the best tool for the job.
You're talking about it being intuitive for young people, and in the same breath you say it's not the best tool for the job. What you are complaining about is a steep learning curve, and that you are unwilling to invest the time to learn it since you work well enough (by your standards) with the tools you have already learned.
The best tool for the job is actually a compromise between the learning curve, how well and how fast you can get your job done with that particular tool. You can have any two. Microsoft and Mozilla are implicitly making an argument that the steeper learning curve will result in more productivity. They are (most likely) assuming that the average user has gotten used to the new UI, that computer users are more tech savvy than before and intelligent enough to make the leap to a new UI. Even though we are complainers here on /. I like to think we are also capable of adopting a UI concept that will ultimately result in better productivity.
And, by the way, I didn't like the ribbon in the beginning either.
If we were to shift blame, I would go as far to say that what's really to blame is corporate interests (i.e. money) making their way into government and civil services, either through necessity generated from public outcry -- for example, we need less guns, I know! let's use tasers! --, or through corrupt policy makers who are in bed with these corporations. You can't blame the company that sells these bad boys for wanting to sell them. That's inherently what doing business is all about, even if they do have a genuinely evil product
Also, I'm happy to say my RAM is clear of llamas, but full of rams.
I can tell you I was on AT&T before it was even called Cingular. The quality of the network, especially voice, has reduced dramatically since the iPhone was introduced. A particular annoyance is the amount of dropped calls I have been experiencing, and that happened right around the time they stopped airing those funny "Tired of dropped calls?" commercials, which I think coincides with the iPhone release date (can anyone back me up on that?) i used all sorts of phones: RAZR, Samsung flip phone, Q, and iPhone, and it was the same across the board
The good news is, the quality of my Apple stock went up 50% since the introduction of iPhone...
Dragging their feet deliberately sounds shady, if not illegal. IANAL, but I think a developer could take Apple to court to sue for lost sales, couldn't he?? (I mean, in the event he resubmits the app again, w/o the interpreter)
I personally think Apple should stick to some kind of rule as to how long a developer has to wait before the app is approved, and pay out monetary damages in case it's been months and the app hasn't been approved yet (Google Voice comes to mind).
hehe I think you're the only one that got it
Even though we are so much smarter than these neanderthal criminal guys, we still have to look up the definition of money laundering in a dictionary.
This may be a woosh moment, but just in case you were serious: considering 50% (.50) of an hour is half an hour, I'll let you reconsider your final answer...
Apparently, they didn't understand the difference between .54 hours and 54 minutes either
Just wanted to point out that feeling self-righteous is not limited only to Linux users. And that the end really is near.
It is an upgrade, true, but ALL Apple OS sales are upgrades, they don't just sell a 'full install' because there has never been mac that went out the door without an OS on it.
This is most interesting to me. I wonder if you can buy an Apple computer and attempt to return the OS X installation disk and get a refund for its value, like a lot of folks have done with various net/notebooks that came with Windows. Of course, I anticipate they will flatly refuse, so then the question is are they legally allowed to refuse?
It must be me, but this story sounds like it was written by a whiny 16-year old who just got his driver's license. You mean, WALK an entire HALF of a block?!? GOD FORBID you stretch your legs out upwards of 20 feet. And then you have to WAIT FOR THE RECEIPT TO BE PRINTED?!?! O-M-G that takes forever, like 20 seconds at least. The world will END in that time...
DEAL WITH IT!
Here's the thing: stateless works everywhere there is any internet connectivity. Imagine having to define a long-lasting stateful protocol around slow and unreliable internet connections. But I do agree that the current model is inherently broken, and maybe we can get away with defining short-term stateful protocols that could revert back to stateless....?
Sorry, I have to disagree. There is no right or wrong, as far as thin vs. thick clients are concerned -- it's really what's best for the job. Processing on the client side can be a good thing, as long as it's not abused (like it is with ajax).
haha that reminds me of a movie called Suburban Commando (arguably, the best Hulk Hogan movie ever)
Troublemaker: Do you have any idea what we are gonna do to you If we find one itty bitty scratch on them?
Shep Ramsey: Lemme guess. You're gonna pound my face, break every bone in my body, then you're gonna drag my body down a gravel road, and feed my remains to a wart hog. Is that about right? Troubemaker: What are you nuts? This is the '90s. We're gonna sue you.
What if the judge can't open .docx files and he can't buy a new copy of Word? My head A-SPLODE
Because *that* number is only unique to the company where you signed up for your directv or whatever, and depends on their hash algorithm.
Or they could just use fingerprint data + a unique pin number to generate a number for you, that you can change once a year (or in cases of fraud), and only with the use of your print. Then, of course, they could issue RSA keys for total security too "Something you have (token) + something you know (pin) + something you are (fingerprint or iris or dna)"
Although, I suspect this opens up a whole new can of worms...
I don't see why there isn't a standard that says to use something like a Driver's license number, run it through an irreversible algorithm that uniquely identifies the DL number (something similar to md5 but which is guaranteed to be unique). Wouldn't that solve these stupid problems??
Just a quick question: how hard would it be to give your most malicious user an account named Administrator that was actually not an administrator?
I love the bash reference, wish I had mod points.
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you don't have to go through the Apple Store to have an app placed on the iPhone
That is only true in three scenarios:
1. You have a jailbroken phone, and all bets are off.
2. You are distributing in ad-hoc mode, and you're not going through the Apple Store. HOWEVER, you do need to get your certificate (not sure if you have to have it approved still?), and once you get that straightened out, you are good to go.
3. You are an iPhone developer, and you have set up a provisioning profile to use with XCode. You can install your app on up to 100 devices to test. (no, you can't remove and then add, it's 100-lifetime devices).
I love mods with a good sense of humor. I would have modded you the same :)
On the other hand, if you own a Pre device, and you are able to sync with iTunes today, and the only thing that changes is an iTunes update, there's a chance the consumers will blame Apple. Palm is banking on this, and most-assuredly they will have tech support tell them *not* to upgrade to the latest version of iTunes (or to downgrade).
It's not an amateurish play on Pre's part, but a very, very risky one -- but if it does work, and they are able to smear Apple's image enough to gain a few points with consumers, it might just work out for them. My guess is that Palm is working on its own version of iTunes + Music Store that is not ready yet, and they are trying to smear Apple enough to win over some customers in the end. Risky indeed.
If winamp worked on a mac I'd probably use that.
There used to be a version for Mac OS called MacAMP. Not sure if this is the right one, but give it a shot (looks like it died a few years back and is starting to get resurrected)