You quoted me saying that PHP has a less steep learning curve than Perl. Then you argued against that claim by saying that you write neat code, and that coders can, in fact, write neat Perl code? I don't mean to sound smug, but I honestly fail to see a connection.
I never claimed that Perl code was messy or that PHP code was neater. All I said was that given 5 hours with a decent book, a person learning PHP will be able to accomplish a lot more than the person learning Perl at the end of the day.
It's true that programmers fall victim to fad-ism, but the fact is that the learning curve of Perl is quite steep compared to that of PHP. PHP (and, arguably ASP) brought something to the table that Perl lacks -- readability, comprehensibility, expandability.
As far as RoR is concerned, it's nothing new -- it's simply a framework (a very young, immature one, at that, in terms of software maturity) that could have been written in ANY language (PHP on Rails, anyone?). This is why we're seeing RoR developers get frustrated and go back to PHP!
I haven't heard many PHP developers going back to Perl.
I think his point is that Perl doesn't encourage nor enforce good coding practices.
[asbestos hat on]
If you take Java for instance, _everything_ from the main method to the kitchen sink is inside objects (with very few, controlled and necessary exceptions), which conform to the OO paradigm.
Tell me, what kind of structure does perl enforce or even encourage?
Don't get me wrong, Perl is EXCELLENT in what it can do -- quickly manipulate large amounts of data. But it wasn't designed to do much else. Perl (like PHP) is a far, far cry from a enterprise programming language, and frankly, I'd like it to stay that way.
On your first point, the lawyers actually don't get paid until the other party coughs up the money. At least, this is how car accident claims go, and I assume it would be no different with civil lawsuits.
On your second point, in general you are correct, but I think since this person is on disability, she makes money from the system just for breathing. So, in this particular case, she is getting paid even though she is someplace else. I do, however, agree with you that, in general, people should be compensated for their time spent fighting BS like this.
You basically described a full government collapse. At first, there would be a power vacuum, and all these different factions would fight to fill it. Then, as one faction takes power, it will most likely rule with an iron grip until the other factions have been completely eliminated. By the time they are though, the fear that there are other factions trying to eliminate those in power will be completely embedded into domestic policy, hence creating a totalitarian regime.
Meanwhile, crime would run rampant on the streets, citizens will arm themselves to the teeth for protection, businesses will get looted, and all-around lawlessness would prevail. Without government to regulate firearms (I can't believe I said that), local police force would become useless and eventually dissolve, leaving bands of armed civilians to patrol the streets and dish out the law.
OTOH, on the off-chance that a socially responsible (read: non-violent) group takes hold of the country, a lot of government jobs would get resurrected. Depending on the corruptness level of the group, these jobs would either serve to siphon (sp?) off tax payer money into the pockets of bureaucrats, or would be streamlined more efficiently until a more corrupt group could do the former.
So, your two options are either violent lawlessness, or corrupted rule -- please don't say that's what we have now; I urge to look at government corruption in other countries, especially ones that have gone through a government collapse before uttering that statement.
Yeah, I *can* upgrade the HD in my MBP, but I choose not to because it voids my warranty. Why is that so hard to understand??
Even IF I didn't have my warranty, I would not want to do it because my time is better spent doing other things, like actually getting my work done.
Besides, I can't understand why, when I bring my MBP to the "Genius" bar to upgrade my HD, they tell me not even THEY can do it, but only an Apple Certified repair shop. Wtf?
What bothers me most is that it's an expensive machine, and their LESS expensive machine, the Macbook, actually HAS a user serviceable HD.
The only thing that I look forward to in 5.1 is the addition of triggers for non-root users. I've fought many a battles with hosting providers wanting to charge me upwards of $120/hr to put my triggers in place as root because MySQL didn't allow regular users to run it.
Now, finding a hosting service willing to upgrade to 5.1 within a year after it's released is going to be a new bat
First, safe mode is not a security feature. Safe mode is a way to boot up the system without running unnecessary services. You can even boot safe mode with networking.
Secondly, even if safe mode DID mean "secure mode" (which it doesn't), you are still missing the point the author made. The author asserts that he wants a mode for gaming -- to strip all the unnecessary services except ones specifically meant for gaming. That means 3D acceleration, turning off "internet" services (i.e. useless services like Adobe Updater, Office Updater, file sharing, for instance) that clog up your bandwidth, etc. In other words, Game Mode which really means "Optimized for Games Mode".
Someone else in this thread posted a nice summary -- basically, they want a XBOX 360 mode.
Now, if I may add one myself -- I think it would be awfully nice if you didn't have to reboot the system to get this, and instead could simply log out of your account, and log into one specifically meant for gaming. THAT would be awesome.
If you are faced with temperatures of above 150C in a "100% oxygen atmosphere," you've got much bigger problems to solve. I don't know, like finding a piece of paper that you could write on WHICH ISN'T COMPLETELY CARBONATED
I guess I'm bitter because when I did work very long hours or get woken up at 3am to fix something (usually someone else's screwup), I was expected to show up at 9am the next day regardless. Not to mention the company I worked for has no concept of comp-days, looks down on working from home, etc
Congratulations to both of you for getting good deals on your employments -- I mean that sincerely.
It's not about being lazy. I'm all for resuscitating a dead server, but I WANT TO BE PAID FOR IT.
I can't understand what's so difficult to understand about this concept??? If I do work, if I answer emails, if I field phone calls at 3am, if I get text messages from my server that I'm obligated to read, I AM ENTITLED FOR COMPENSATION for my time. I don't see the problem here.
The whole reason this discussion started is because some VP or CEO is too cheap to pay for extra time (*1.5 in some cases) in order to save the business from losing (much more) money. And if the big cheese doesn't think that THAT warrants paying me for my work and support, than he must not think it's too important, and should not expect me to do it for free.
1. Draw two dots on a white board and measure the distance between them
2. Stand in the middle of these two points, but far away from the board
3. Start moving closer until the two dots disappear from your vision (of course, keep looking in the middle)
4. Measure your distance to the board when the dots have disappeared
5. Use middle-school math to figure out the angle
I respectfully disagree with your assertion that drug prohibition is a form of thought control. We only need to look at the history of drug prohibition -- taking cocaine as an example -- to see that it was fueled by a racist, fear-induced, politically-charged agenda.
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You quoted me saying that PHP has a less steep learning curve than Perl. Then you argued against that claim by saying that you write neat code, and that coders can, in fact, write neat Perl code? I don't mean to sound smug, but I honestly fail to see a connection.
I never claimed that Perl code was messy or that PHP code was neater. All I said was that given 5 hours with a decent book, a person learning PHP will be able to accomplish a lot more than the person learning Perl at the end of the day.
It's true that programmers fall victim to fad-ism, but the fact is that the learning curve of Perl is quite steep compared to that of PHP. PHP (and, arguably ASP) brought something to the table that Perl lacks -- readability, comprehensibility, expandability.
As far as RoR is concerned, it's nothing new -- it's simply a framework (a very young, immature one, at that, in terms of software maturity) that could have been written in ANY language (PHP on Rails, anyone?). This is why we're seeing RoR developers get frustrated and go back to PHP!
I haven't heard many PHP developers going back to Perl.
I think his point is that Perl doesn't encourage nor enforce good coding practices.
[asbestos hat on]
If you take Java for instance, _everything_ from the main method to the kitchen sink is inside objects (with very few, controlled and necessary exceptions), which conform to the OO paradigm.
Tell me, what kind of structure does perl enforce or even encourage?
Don't get me wrong, Perl is EXCELLENT in what it can do -- quickly manipulate large amounts of data. But it wasn't designed to do much else. Perl (like PHP) is a far, far cry from a enterprise programming language, and frankly, I'd like it to stay that way.
[asbestos hat off]
On your first point, the lawyers actually don't get paid until the other party coughs up the money. At least, this is how car accident claims go, and I assume it would be no different with civil lawsuits.
On your second point, in general you are correct, but I think since this person is on disability, she makes money from the system just for breathing. So, in this particular case, she is getting paid even though she is someplace else. I do, however, agree with you that, in general, people should be compensated for their time spent fighting BS like this.
On your third point, you are absolutely correct.
The sad aspect of your post is, had you omitted that first sentence, you might have actually been modded insightful or interesting.
You basically described a full government collapse. At first, there would be a power vacuum, and all these different factions would fight to fill it. Then, as one faction takes power, it will most likely rule with an iron grip until the other factions have been completely eliminated. By the time they are though, the fear that there are other factions trying to eliminate those in power will be completely embedded into domestic policy, hence creating a totalitarian regime.
Meanwhile, crime would run rampant on the streets, citizens will arm themselves to the teeth for protection, businesses will get looted, and all-around lawlessness would prevail. Without government to regulate firearms (I can't believe I said that), local police force would become useless and eventually dissolve, leaving bands of armed civilians to patrol the streets and dish out the law.
OTOH, on the off-chance that a socially responsible (read: non-violent) group takes hold of the country, a lot of government jobs would get resurrected. Depending on the corruptness level of the group, these jobs would either serve to siphon (sp?) off tax payer money into the pockets of bureaucrats, or would be streamlined more efficiently until a more corrupt group could do the former.
So, your two options are either violent lawlessness, or corrupted rule -- please don't say that's what we have now; I urge to look at government corruption in other countries, especially ones that have gone through a government collapse before uttering that statement.
In summary, government collapse: bad!
Ohh, I like this game! Do terrorists next
Well, then go to the Genius bar and tell them that.
Yeah, I *can* upgrade the HD in my MBP, but I choose not to because it voids my warranty. Why is that so hard to understand??
Even IF I didn't have my warranty, I would not want to do it because my time is better spent doing other things, like actually getting my work done.
Besides, I can't understand why, when I bring my MBP to the "Genius" bar to upgrade my HD, they tell me not even THEY can do it, but only an Apple Certified repair shop. Wtf?
What bothers me most is that it's an expensive machine, and their LESS expensive machine, the Macbook, actually HAS a user serviceable HD.
The only thing that I look forward to in 5.1 is the addition of triggers for non-root users. I've fought many a battles with hosting providers wanting to charge me upwards of $120/hr to put my triggers in place as root because MySQL didn't allow regular users to run it.
Now, finding a hosting service willing to upgrade to 5.1 within a year after it's released is going to be a new bat
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First, safe mode is not a security feature. Safe mode is a way to boot up the system without running unnecessary services. You can even boot safe mode with networking.
Secondly, even if safe mode DID mean "secure mode" (which it doesn't), you are still missing the point the author made. The author asserts that he wants a mode for gaming -- to strip all the unnecessary services except ones specifically meant for gaming. That means 3D acceleration, turning off "internet" services (i.e. useless services like Adobe Updater, Office Updater, file sharing, for instance) that clog up your bandwidth, etc. In other words, Game Mode which really means "Optimized for Games Mode".
Someone else in this thread posted a nice summary -- basically, they want a XBOX 360 mode.
Now, if I may add one myself -- I think it would be awfully nice if you didn't have to reboot the system to get this, and instead could simply log out of your account, and log into one specifically meant for gaming. THAT would be awesome.
If you are faced with temperatures of above 150C in a "100% oxygen atmosphere," you've got much bigger problems to solve. I don't know, like finding a piece of paper that you could write on WHICH ISN'T COMPLETELY CARBONATED
A plastic sign would do just as well.
That was my first thought too. Next thing you know, they'll try to invent a way to put Windows in a pen so that it would write upside down in space
I guess I'm bitter because when I did work very long hours or get woken up at 3am to fix something (usually someone else's screwup), I was expected to show up at 9am the next day regardless. Not to mention the company I worked for has no concept of comp-days, looks down on working from home, etc
Congratulations to both of you for getting good deals on your employments -- I mean that sincerely.
It's not about being lazy. I'm all for resuscitating a dead server, but I WANT TO BE PAID FOR IT.
I can't understand what's so difficult to understand about this concept??? If I do work, if I answer emails, if I field phone calls at 3am, if I get text messages from my server that I'm obligated to read, I AM ENTITLED FOR COMPENSATION for my time. I don't see the problem here.
The whole reason this discussion started is because some VP or CEO is too cheap to pay for extra time (*1.5 in some cases) in order to save the business from losing (much more) money. And if the big cheese doesn't think that THAT warrants paying me for my work and support, than he must not think it's too important, and should not expect me to do it for free.
The casing on the MBP is made of aluminum. Bacteria can't survive on metal surfaces. You're covered.
(what?!? it's not REAL aluminum?!)
I think he would have said "Holy Shit! I just had a near-miss with death!"
RIP GC
Are you crazy?? You need to dedicate at least two, redundant backups, and off-site tape storage for that...
That's like putting all your savings under a mattress -- you won't need to use it until one day, you get really desperate, but realize it's all gone
They can also afford to pay for music.
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Hey, I learned the SOH-CAH-TOA mnemonic in 8th grade (middle school). And I went to an LAUSD school.
But that was before the No Child Left Behind Act.
You can find your own FOV:
1. Draw two dots on a white board and measure the distance between them
2. Stand in the middle of these two points, but far away from the board
3. Start moving closer until the two dots disappear from your vision (of course, keep looking in the middle)
4. Measure your distance to the board when the dots have disappeared
5. Use middle-school math to figure out the angle
I found mine to be roughly 120 degrees
Yeah, MySQL 4 also. That's the first thing I looked at, and I stopped looking after that. PHP 4? Come on...
It's not really fair to compare Fischer to Stalin. AFAIK, Fischer never killed anyone.
It is morally acceptable to dislike someone but appreciate their accomplishments. Personally, I celebrate Fischer's accomplishments in chess.
I respectfully disagree with your assertion that drug prohibition is a form of thought control. We only need to look at the history of drug prohibition -- taking cocaine as an example -- to see that it was fueled by a racist, fear-induced, politically-charged agenda.
Here are some links relating to drug prohibition:
http://www.drugpolicy.org/communities/race/historyofpro
http://thedea.org/prohibhistory.html