Unless you have a job with a company that has a license to use it on some old machines, good luck getting it without the aid of Mr. Torrent. And even then, you have no idea what the guys that uploaded it may or may not have slipstreamed into the.iso. I can honestly say that is possibly the only version of XP I would ever be willing to pay for (haven't seen a worthwhile version of Vista yet, including it's SE, 7).
Because it is going to be aimed at more than netbooks, it is meant for all low-spec machines. The reason MS only marketed starter in less developed markets was because those were, at the time, the only places you would be buying new machines with low-spec hardware. However, now that netbooks have come around, and they are, compared to what is out now, low-spec, that is going to be the version shoved on netbooks as well. I just hope they are smart enough not to shove in weird-ass arbitrary limits like only allowing a certain number of programs to run at one time, being specifically crippled so that it only recognizes a certain amount of memory at one time, only being able to recognize a certain amount of available space on a hard drive, even if more is available, etc. But then again, this is Microsoft, so it is likely that Starter will require you to have a large metal rod inserted into your rectum as a security dongle to work.
True, but that isn't necessarily all out of dislike for Microsoft, it is also out of recognition of the fact that this is, most likely, something they intend to compete with GarageBand.
Well, this won't be showing anything that isn't in the current economic stimulus package. But you are pretty wrong, most congresscritters would love for more attention to be brought to their pet projects, because those pet projects usually end up benefiting the people who voted for them or who funded their campaigns. All it would do is help get most of them re-elected.
What words did I put in your mouth? You assume that an alternative to an open source product is not necessarily open source...you are putting words in my mouth. There are a number of other DEs you could have tried, or hell, you could have just went to an older version of KDE if that was such a big deal. So yes, I stand by my original statement that you are a douche for bitching about a "cost" that you are in no way forced into paying. Kind of like someone who bitches about the "cost" of having to put sprinkles on a free cupcake because it didn't have sprinkles to begin with.
Their argument will probably be something along the lines of how it wasn't piracy that made the DVD sales go up, it was them shoving clips on youtube. Kind of like a computer user who remembers steps to open programs, but doesn't just figure out the basic underlying concept of the design.
...those figures for upgrades seem kind of inflated. These are all systems that were "certified" to be Vista (Basic) Capable, so it shouldn't cost that much for a 512mb ram stick and an el-cheapo graphics card for a desktop. If his estimates included installation by a "trained professional" then I would still be willing to bet it would be significantly lower, because they would probably work out a major group discount with a company (probably Best Buy) which would still bring the cost significantly lower. For laptops, I have no idea, although I would be willing to bet that costs would be individually lower than he quoted too (willing to bet that most of them have integrated capable of Aero, just not enough RAM), although some systems would have to be replaced. If that was how damages to be awarded were to be determined, of course. Considering this is a class action suit, what will probably happen is they will make a coupon available for X amount of money off your next purchase of MS software, and probably some other product as well.
The fact that they don't make up some horridly large percent of the market also helps them get away with lock-in (if anyone starts thinking iTunes, think of where iTunes is going in regards to DRM).
Actually, I would be willing to bet that this guy, and anyone else in any significant position in this project, are people who they can't get fire/lay off easily for one reason or another, so they are basically giving them a project that they know these people will bomb so they have a good basis to get rid of these people. Kind of like a corporate version of the Golgafrinchan B-Ark.
I wouldn't move back to radio even if Pandora had ads as frequently as them. Normal radio doesn't offer me personalized stations of music that aren't dreck. With radio I end up listening to 3-5 songs I don't like before hearing one I do, and that is if I find a good station.
Absolutely nothing. Everyone who was using one then is perfectly capable of using one now, although you do have to realize that the number of people who started using computers with a CLI is much smaller than the number of people who started with a GUI. A lot of people who use a GUI find nice pictures easier to work with then remembering a command line command, and those that don't see the command line as something unfamiliar and don't realize the benefits to be had by using a command line. Then you have your people who ask you not to break their internet, or who will do something like unplug a router and then wonder why they can't get on MyHell/Wastebook.
Then they could just leave trident in, and take out the IE browser itself. Or just offer an option to remove IE (not remove access to it, remove it) and leave trident. Or, an option with a big warning so that you could uninstall trident if you wanted.
Ogg probably shouldn't be included because a codec to play.OGG is available for pretty much any operating system someone will be likely to try to watch the inauguration from.
The ISPs might not be doing anything illegal here, but I am having issues seeing how what Nexicon is doing would be legal. With the RIAA, their stated goal isn't to extort money. That is what they do a lot of the time, but it isn't the stated goal. Nexicon, on the other hand, is being bold enough to state that their goal is extortion. I can see this one ending in hilarity.
...they bought the rope, measured the proper length of it, cut it, tied it to a tree, formed one end into a noose, gingerly placed their grinning heads in the noose and tightened it, and now we get to see the looks on their faces when someone who saw their preceding actions takes the logical steps and kicks the stool out from under them.
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Unless you have a job with a company that has a license to use it on some old machines, good luck getting it without the aid of Mr. Torrent. And even then, you have no idea what the guys that uploaded it may or may not have slipstreamed into the .iso. I can honestly say that is possibly the only version of XP I would ever be willing to pay for (haven't seen a worthwhile version of Vista yet, including it's SE, 7).
Because it is going to be aimed at more than netbooks, it is meant for all low-spec machines. The reason MS only marketed starter in less developed markets was because those were, at the time, the only places you would be buying new machines with low-spec hardware. However, now that netbooks have come around, and they are, compared to what is out now, low-spec, that is going to be the version shoved on netbooks as well. I just hope they are smart enough not to shove in weird-ass arbitrary limits like only allowing a certain number of programs to run at one time, being specifically crippled so that it only recognizes a certain amount of memory at one time, only being able to recognize a certain amount of available space on a hard drive, even if more is available, etc. But then again, this is Microsoft, so it is likely that Starter will require you to have a large metal rod inserted into your rectum as a security dongle to work.
During the last Sunday in September.
Do you realize why what you just proposed is just as bad as the current situation, or should someone spell it out for you?
True, but that isn't necessarily all out of dislike for Microsoft, it is also out of recognition of the fact that this is, most likely, something they intend to compete with GarageBand.
Well, this won't be showing anything that isn't in the current economic stimulus package. But you are pretty wrong, most congresscritters would love for more attention to be brought to their pet projects, because those pet projects usually end up benefiting the people who voted for them or who funded their campaigns. All it would do is help get most of them re-elected.
Unfortunately, there still isn't anything funny there.
What words did I put in your mouth? You assume that an alternative to an open source product is not necessarily open source...you are putting words in my mouth. There are a number of other DEs you could have tried, or hell, you could have just went to an older version of KDE if that was such a big deal. So yes, I stand by my original statement that you are a douche for bitching about a "cost" that you are in no way forced into paying. Kind of like someone who bitches about the "cost" of having to put sprinkles on a free cupcake because it didn't have sprinkles to begin with.
Their argument will probably be something along the lines of how it wasn't piracy that made the DVD sales go up, it was them shoving clips on youtube. Kind of like a computer user who remembers steps to open programs, but doesn't just figure out the basic underlying concept of the design.
If you consider yourself to be paying when you are using a free product you don't like when many alternatives exist, then you sir are a douche.
Your comment would be relevant if any of this was about when Vista came out. It isn't.
...those figures for upgrades seem kind of inflated. These are all systems that were "certified" to be Vista (Basic) Capable, so it shouldn't cost that much for a 512mb ram stick and an el-cheapo graphics card for a desktop. If his estimates included installation by a "trained professional" then I would still be willing to bet it would be significantly lower, because they would probably work out a major group discount with a company (probably Best Buy) which would still bring the cost significantly lower. For laptops, I have no idea, although I would be willing to bet that costs would be individually lower than he quoted too (willing to bet that most of them have integrated capable of Aero, just not enough RAM), although some systems would have to be replaced. If that was how damages to be awarded were to be determined, of course. Considering this is a class action suit, what will probably happen is they will make a coupon available for X amount of money off your next purchase of MS software, and probably some other product as well.
Windows 7 isn't leaner. It just feels a bit better, and then that is only because it is being compared mainly to Vista.
You realize NHS doesn't preclude you having your own insurance, right?
The fact that they don't make up some horridly large percent of the market also helps them get away with lock-in (if anyone starts thinking iTunes, think of where iTunes is going in regards to DRM).
Actually, I would be willing to bet that this guy, and anyone else in any significant position in this project, are people who they can't get fire/lay off easily for one reason or another, so they are basically giving them a project that they know these people will bomb so they have a good basis to get rid of these people. Kind of like a corporate version of the Golgafrinchan B-Ark.
...of them trying to take control of their image, as opposed to letting it be defined by journalists/other people with opinions/competing companies.
I wouldn't move back to radio even if Pandora had ads as frequently as them. Normal radio doesn't offer me personalized stations of music that aren't dreck. With radio I end up listening to 3-5 songs I don't like before hearing one I do, and that is if I find a good station.
Actually, Peggle is already coming out for the DS.
Actually, what you propose already exists with CNR.
Absolutely nothing. Everyone who was using one then is perfectly capable of using one now, although you do have to realize that the number of people who started using computers with a CLI is much smaller than the number of people who started with a GUI. A lot of people who use a GUI find nice pictures easier to work with then remembering a command line command, and those that don't see the command line as something unfamiliar and don't realize the benefits to be had by using a command line. Then you have your people who ask you not to break their internet, or who will do something like unplug a router and then wonder why they can't get on MyHell/Wastebook.
Then they could just leave trident in, and take out the IE browser itself. Or just offer an option to remove IE (not remove access to it, remove it) and leave trident. Or, an option with a big warning so that you could uninstall trident if you wanted.
Ogg probably shouldn't be included because a codec to play .OGG is available for pretty much any operating system someone will be likely to try to watch the inauguration from.
The ISPs might not be doing anything illegal here, but I am having issues seeing how what Nexicon is doing would be legal. With the RIAA, their stated goal isn't to extort money. That is what they do a lot of the time, but it isn't the stated goal. Nexicon, on the other hand, is being bold enough to state that their goal is extortion. I can see this one ending in hilarity.
...they bought the rope, measured the proper length of it, cut it, tied it to a tree, formed one end into a noose, gingerly placed their grinning heads in the noose and tightened it, and now we get to see the looks on their faces when someone who saw their preceding actions takes the logical steps and kicks the stool out from under them.