I don't see anything from Sony's statements that show they were in breach of PCI-DSS. They stated that they were using encryption on the database where credit card information was stored (as required by PCI-DSS). PCI-DSS is hardly an onerous standard to comply to. You can be 100% compliant with PCI-DSS and still be vulnerable to trivial exploits.
Very few companies disclose the fact that they have been hacked.
I did some contracting work for a multinational charity a while back, and they knew that a rootkit had been installed on all of their web servers (which accepted credit card donations). They didn't bother to fix it until a second hacker broke the webserver (preventing apache from restarting due to a second rootkit that kept port 443 open). When the website went down the servers were rebuilt, and a press release went out blaming the outage on flooding in different part of the country from where the kit actually resides. The charity decided that they would not bother securing the webservers as they considered it cheaper to just rebuild them every three years (which is how long they had been running in an unpatched state for - I don't know how long they had been compromised, but it was at least four months).
I'm sure that sort of think is common, and public disclosures are rare so I'm glad that Sony public announced their breach. They could have blamed the outage on earthquakes in Japan, they could have said the shut-down of PSN was to "Ensure the security of customers during the unlawful attacks being committed, thus far unsuccessfully, by an extremist fringe group".
Public disclosure by Sony (which was reported on mainstream news where I live) allowed me to report by credit card stolen. The only other information that Sony held was my address (which can easily be obtained legally) and a fake date of birth that I supplied.
I don't see any reason why I should be compensated for a free service not being available. I don't demand some free stuff whenever twitter is over capacity and I can't access it.
If you are concerned about fraud report your credit card stolen, take advantage of the free fraud monitoring services if you wish, and move on.
It highly likely that your details have already stolen from another company you've bought goods or services from and they haven't told you about it.
When I bought it, it had backwards comparability for almost all PS2 games...not now
I'm assuming that you don't actually own a PS3. I bought one of the early PS3 models that had PS2 backwards compatibility, and I can still play PS2 games with the latest firmware. PS2 backwards compatibility was removed from the hardware of newer models.
I'm disappointed that there have been so many comments suggesting anything but help on speed camera (possibly because they are unpopular devices). Speed cameras do have the potential to reduce speeds around accident black spots, assisting in the number of injuries and fatalities. Speed cameras can also be considerably cheaper to implement than traffic lights and provide a revenue stream to fund maintenance.
In terms of preventing disputes of pictures taken by cameras I would suggest that you look at techniques used in the UK. There they take two photographs of any speeding vehicle at precisely timed intervals. There are marking on the road to show distance so the two images can be used to prove that the vehicle covered the distance stated on the ticket.
Another item I would recommend is that all digital evidence is signed with a digital signature to show it has not been tampered with. In Australia md5 hashes were used to show an image had not been tampered with, and that allowed someone challenge the ticket successfully in court as the defendant was able to demonstrate that someone could have easily replaced both the image and hash (as anyone can create an md5 hash, but a digital signature requires the private key).
Tamper proofing is also very important (expect attacks on cameras with many items). I strongly recommend mounting cameras on high poles (at least 2.5m, basically beyond the swing of a baseball bat) to reduce vandalism.
Mobotix make some excellent cameras, and while they are not designed to function as speed cameras they are programmable and offer and excellent api. Additionally, they function extremely well in bad weather conditions due to having no moving parts. They also make vandal resistant cameras and I have personally hit one of their cameras repeatedly with a sledgehammer and it continued to function throughout. I've also used them without issues in the top end of Australia where the temperature can exceed 45C and there is often high humidity.
"But I do not believe there is some nefarious intent to this bug"
The article states that IE is more likely than any other browser to appear at the bottom of the list. To me, this is one of two optimal positions (top or bottom being easiest to pick out).
Microsoft is so well known for dirty tricks I'm sure that this is not an accident
It's really easy in the UK to get someone to publicly say sorry due to the lible laws. If you are sued for lible you have to prove that your statements are true. It's much cheaper to just apologise than go to court even if the truth is on your side.
I would not be the lease surprised if the apology was the result of a legal threat.
Google McLibel for an interesting case where someone refused to apologise for statements that a reasonable person would consider true.
In most countries a ship with an armed crew is considered a pirate ship. You cannot dock at most ports around the world even if you are carrying only small arms.
So yes, you are missing something.
Also, in almost all cases of piracy around Somalia the crew and cargo have been released unharmed once the ransom has been paid. If you start arming crews you will have firefights, people will get injured. People will die. I consider that a bad thing, and I hope you do to.
A heightened U.N. naval presence around the area is making a bit of a difference. Support from the US would help (and considering the U.S. killed what was the government of Somalia and severely fucked up the country a few years back I they should contribute something other than telling people to arm their crews (which has been the advice from the U.S. administration under Nobel peace prize Obama)).
I have to say that the above point (visually impaired != blind) is highly relevant to the discussion.
Where I'm from someone can be registered blind yet still have some form of eye-sight. My grandfather visually impaired to the point of being considered legally blind, but still drove a car. While this was reckless and irresponsible, he could still do it. He got the best parking spaces too as he had a handicapped sticker for his car due to being visually impaired.
Many of the comments in this topic assume that visually impaired means completely blind, which is just plain wrong.
So if you have some moderator points, could you please be so kind as to mod up the parent. Thank you.
I was given a Sparcstation 5 a few years ago that I have running faithfully as a home server and it draws less than 70 watts. It runs DNS, squid, OpenVPN and a few other things quite well (its running OpenBSD, but you could just as easily put Linux on there). You could pick up a similarly aged system that would have a low power requirement from ebay for well under $300. It's also better for the environment to re-use something that someone else would have otherwise thrown away than to buy something new.
Because it's really a publicity stunt from Microsoft trying to get the Xbox360 in the forefront of peoples minds in the lead up to Christmas.
The article reads like most of the marketing cover I see from Microsoft (and for that matter most other software companies).
Organisation X needed to do Y but the competing product was too expensive (in price/effort/time). Our product does Y at a fraction of the price/time/effort of our competitor.
The people at Orgaisation X are smart people who know all about Y and are very happy with our product.
The issue that the App Store reviewers did find with the Ninjawords application is that it provided access to other more vulgar terms than those found in traditional and common dictionaries, words that many reasonable people might find upsetting or objectionable. A quick search on Wiktionary.org easily turns up a number of offensive "urban slang" terms that you won't find in popular dictionaries such as one that you referenced, the New Oxford American Dictionary included in Mac OS X.
I'm sorry, but Apples own dictionary app that will return the definition of the words "cunt" and "nigger", and I don't think there is anything more offensive.
The Blu Ray disc is pretty vital when you look at the sizes of PS3 exclusive titles. Liar (a much better game than reviews indicate) is about 25GB in size. Metal Gear Solid 4 is even larger and there's no disc swapping. There are already suggestions as to how much of a nightmare the latest Final Fantasy game will be if it is ever release on the XBox360 due to the number of DVDs required.
Myself, I don't want a cheaper, slimmed down PS3. I want a deluxe mode. I would likely pick up a new console if Sony would create a new PS3 with full hardware PS2 support.
I have the 60GB European model that came with PS2 software support, and I have to say that it's compatibility with PS2 titles is pretty remarkable. When it was first released there were a lot of games that were listed as incompatible (such as Gran Turismo 4 and GTA III) that work great now due to firmware updates (I think around firmware 1.92 backwards compatibility got a lot better). I suspect that the US model with hardware support for PS2 titles may not have benefited as much from software updates. PS2 games (on the European model) can be upscaled to 1080p, and it's great to effectively have as many save games as you like rather than manage memory cards. I gave away my PS2 as I stopped using it.
Unfortunately they don't sell that model of the PS3 anymore, but there are quite a few gaming sites that it is still available from second hand (as well as eBay).
I often consider achievements and trophies to be rather lame versions of challenges that I used to create for myself once I'd finished a game on it's hardest setting. I remember trying to complete Another World without a single death, and playing through Half-Life left handed. I've always found that the tasks I set myself for games far more creative, interesting and rewarding than the arbitrary achievements or trophies in recent games.
Oh, and in the first System Shock game I wandered around the space station trying to vaporise all of the corpses before the time limit ran out. I imagined once while I was doing this that if I was ever on trial for murder then this bizarre cadaver removal obsession might be used as evidence against me.
That was one of the things that was truly great in the first two Fallout games, the game would allow you to deviate greatly from the path the designers had anticipated and still keep going. They were great for playing the game totally in character. I still remember getting so annoyed by the president of Vault City that I decided to kill her, then ended up having to wipe all the inhabitants and I was still able to complete the game.
In Fallout 3 someone in Rivet City kept passing me in the corridor and calling me a thief. After the third time he did this, acting in character, I shot him for his impudence. I could only knock him unconscious, and he kept getting back up regardless as to how many bullets I implanted into his skull. It was at that point for me that I realised that Fallout 3 was not the sequel I was looking for.
What I find shocking is that the judge believed the person who committed murder did not understand the consequences of his actions, but did not accept an insanity plea.
As I don't wish to be flamed I would also like to comment that I don't believe that video games cause insanity. Magical thinking is as likely to be influenced by books, advertising, cartoons, religion, comic-books (incidentally, I remember when comics were blamed for problem behaviours in children and adolescents before the focus of attention turned to videos, and to games), etc.
If someone does not understand that shooting someone could cause permanent injury (or permanent death) then they are a danger to themselves and to others, and should be treated for their mental illness. If the person in this case truly did not understand that shooting his parents would kill them then it is likely that he was suffering from a form of mental illness before he played Halo 3.
My toast got burnt sometime between 9:59:40 EST (Eastern Standard Time in New South Wales, GMT +10:00) and 10:00:00 EST (GMT +10:00) on Jan 1, 2008 which remarkably corresponds to within at most 20 seconds of the New Year in GMT. I have been making toast with this same wetware non-stop for more than twenty six years and other than the occasional lapse in concentration while speaking on the phone, I have not burnt toast more than 1 or 2 times in 2237 days of cumulative toasting. Nothing other than background processes were running through my mind at the time of the burning. Could this be a coincidence or was there some 2008/2009 rollover issue going on here? Has anyone (other than Zune 30GB owners) noticed similar year-end issues while operating toasters or electronic devices?
I find it unlikely that the $400 million USD that Sony may have paid would have been a major factor for Warner Brothers. While a substantial sum of money (enough to fund two or possibly three big budget films), I'm not convinced that it is enough to sway their decision of format for the next twenty years.
It's much more probable that Warner Brothers had already made their format decision (by waiting to see where the rest of the market was going) and tried to time it right to the maximum payout they could get from Sony.
The major film studios had much more to gain from ensuring that there was only one high definition format than from backing any particular format. I would argue that if Toshiba had offered $500 million USD then Warner Brothers would have rejected that as an extended format war could have cost them more in the long run.
I actually did this a while back (the promotion has been running since December 2007 IIRC). They send both a shirt and a certificate (as a Vista certified salesperson) to whatever name you fill in the form. I did it several times with the names "A Retarded Monkey", "Someone Brain-damaged", etc.
I have a certificate on my wall that states "This certifies that An Ignorant Buffoon has reached the level of excellence to qualify as a Vista Certified Salesperson".
(I'm paraphrasing as I'm not in the office at the moment).
I thought Service Packs have *always* been already released hotfixes bundled together? Um yes, but they often also include new features or changes not normally made in hotfixes (e.g. to Group Policy) as well. For example the security centre added in WinXP SP2, or the requirement for a user to be the owner of a roaming profile added in Win2000 SP4.
My point was that most of the changes that I expect to see bundled in Vista SP1 are already available as hotfixes, and don't represent any significant change to Vista.
Dude, just dual-boot Linux, or run it in a VM if your employer won't let you partition the drive. I do dual boot Linux (but I find dual-booting to take up a lot of time in constant reboots, and running X11 within a VM is, for me, somewhat irritating), but just having Vista there is a pain. It's a waste of 20GB (which IIRC is the minimum size of partition you can install into), and it doesn't run at least half of the Windows only utilities I need to use from time to time (so I have to fall back to WinXP in a VM).
My dislike for Vista stems from the fact that, for me, it is not a useful thing.
Am I becoming excessively cynical for thinking that SP1 for Vista was rushed out the door for marketing reasons?
It's common for people to wait for the first service pack before moving to a new software platform (not just Microsoft's), and I've seen in their marketing they've been attempting to address the "myth" (http://www.microsoft.com/australia/vistafacts/fact.aspx) that Vista won't be ready until SP1.
I'm predicting that SP1 will just be a bunch of already released hotfixes bundled together and won't do much to cover up the stench of excrement the product exudes.
I'm sorry that this is slightly flamebait, but I don't like Microsoft's products that much and I'm still bitter that my employer forced me to install Vista on my work laptop.
When abroad obey local laws. I haven't even been to Thailand and I know not to insult the king there.
He did something that was illegal in the country that he was visiting. He was born there so knew that it was illegal. I don't see where the story is.
I don't see anything from Sony's statements that show they were in breach of PCI-DSS. They stated that they were using encryption on the database where credit card information was stored (as required by PCI-DSS). PCI-DSS is hardly an onerous standard to comply to. You can be 100% compliant with PCI-DSS and still be vulnerable to trivial exploits.
Very few companies disclose the fact that they have been hacked.
I did some contracting work for a multinational charity a while back, and they knew that a rootkit had been installed on all of their web servers (which accepted credit card donations). They didn't bother to fix it until a second hacker broke the webserver (preventing apache from restarting due to a second rootkit that kept port 443 open). When the website went down the servers were rebuilt, and a press release went out blaming the outage on flooding in different part of the country from where the kit actually resides. The charity decided that they would not bother securing the webservers as they considered it cheaper to just rebuild them every three years (which is how long they had been running in an unpatched state for - I don't know how long they had been compromised, but it was at least four months).
I'm sure that sort of think is common, and public disclosures are rare so I'm glad that Sony public announced their breach. They could have blamed the outage on earthquakes in Japan, they could have said the shut-down of PSN was to "Ensure the security of customers during the unlawful attacks being committed, thus far unsuccessfully, by an extremist fringe group".
Public disclosure by Sony (which was reported on mainstream news where I live) allowed me to report by credit card stolen. The only other information that Sony held was my address (which can easily be obtained legally) and a fake date of birth that I supplied.
I don't see any reason why I should be compensated for a free service not being available. I don't demand some free stuff whenever twitter is over capacity and I can't access it.
If you are concerned about fraud report your credit card stolen, take advantage of the free fraud monitoring services if you wish, and move on.
It highly likely that your details have already stolen from another company you've bought goods or services from and they haven't told you about it.
When I bought it, it had backwards comparability for almost all PS2 games...not now
I'm assuming that you don't actually own a PS3. I bought one of the early PS3 models that had PS2 backwards compatibility, and I can still play PS2 games with the latest firmware. PS2 backwards compatibility was removed from the hardware of newer models.
I'm disappointed that there have been so many comments suggesting anything but help on speed camera (possibly because they are unpopular devices). Speed cameras do have the potential to reduce speeds around accident black spots, assisting in the number of injuries and fatalities. Speed cameras can also be considerably cheaper to implement than traffic lights and provide a revenue stream to fund maintenance.
In terms of preventing disputes of pictures taken by cameras I would suggest that you look at techniques used in the UK. There they take two photographs of any speeding vehicle at precisely timed intervals. There are marking on the road to show distance so the two images can be used to prove that the vehicle covered the distance stated on the ticket.
Another item I would recommend is that all digital evidence is signed with a digital signature to show it has not been tampered with. In Australia md5 hashes were used to show an image had not been tampered with, and that allowed someone challenge the ticket successfully in court as the defendant was able to demonstrate that someone could have easily replaced both the image and hash (as anyone can create an md5 hash, but a digital signature requires the private key).
Tamper proofing is also very important (expect attacks on cameras with many items). I strongly recommend mounting cameras on high poles (at least 2.5m, basically beyond the swing of a baseball bat) to reduce vandalism.
Mobotix make some excellent cameras, and while they are not designed to function as speed cameras they are programmable and offer and excellent api. Additionally, they function extremely well in bad weather conditions due to having no moving parts. They also make vandal resistant cameras and I have personally hit one of their cameras repeatedly with a sledgehammer and it continued to function throughout. I've also used them without issues in the top end of Australia where the temperature can exceed 45C and there is often high humidity.
"But I do not believe there is some nefarious intent to this bug"
The article states that IE is more likely than any other browser to appear at the bottom of the list. To me, this is one of two optimal positions (top or bottom being easiest to pick out).
Microsoft is so well known for dirty tricks I'm sure that this is not an accident
It's really easy in the UK to get someone to publicly say sorry due to the lible laws. If you are sued for lible you have to prove that your statements are true. It's much cheaper to just apologise than go to court even if the truth is on your side.
I would not be the lease surprised if the apology was the result of a legal threat.
Google McLibel for an interesting case where someone refused to apologise for statements that a reasonable person would consider true.
The US attacked a building which was hosting a meeting of the elders trying to resolve the conflict.
The US involvement in Somalia make the situation incredibly fucking worse.
In most countries a ship with an armed crew is considered a pirate ship. You cannot dock at most ports around the world even if you are carrying only small arms.
So yes, you are missing something.
Also, in almost all cases of piracy around Somalia the crew and cargo have been released unharmed once the ransom has been paid. If you start arming crews you will have firefights, people will get injured. People will die. I consider that a bad thing, and I hope you do to.
A heightened U.N. naval presence around the area is making a bit of a difference. Support from the US would help (and considering the U.S. killed what was the government of Somalia and severely fucked up the country a few years back I they should contribute something other than telling people to arm their crews (which has been the advice from the U.S. administration under Nobel peace prize Obama)).
I have to say that the above point (visually impaired != blind) is highly relevant to the discussion.
Where I'm from someone can be registered blind yet still have some form of eye-sight. My grandfather visually impaired to the point of being considered legally blind, but still drove a car. While this was reckless and irresponsible, he could still do it. He got the best parking spaces too as he had a handicapped sticker for his car due to being visually impaired.
Many of the comments in this topic assume that visually impaired means completely blind, which is just plain wrong.
So if you have some moderator points, could you please be so kind as to mod up the parent. Thank you.
I use a Hori arcade stick to play guitar hero one handed on my PS3.
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-zl-77-2-49-en-15-hori+stick-70-1rrr.html
It's totally playable, you're not using a pretend guitar (obviously), but it's still good fun.
I was given a Sparcstation 5 a few years ago that I have running faithfully as a home server and it draws less than 70 watts. It runs DNS, squid, OpenVPN and a few other things quite well (its running OpenBSD, but you could just as easily put Linux on there). You could pick up a similarly aged system that would have a low power requirement from ebay for well under $300. It's also better for the environment to re-use something that someone else would have otherwise thrown away than to buy something new.
Because it's really a publicity stunt from Microsoft trying to get the Xbox360 in the forefront of peoples minds in the lead up to Christmas.
The article reads like most of the marketing cover I see from Microsoft (and for that matter most other software companies).
Organisation X needed to do Y but the competing product was too expensive (in price/effort/time). Our product does Y at a fraction of the price/time/effort of our competitor.
The people at Orgaisation X are smart people who know all about Y and are very happy with our product.
From TFA:
The issue that the App Store reviewers did find with the Ninjawords application is that it provided access to other more vulgar terms than those found in traditional and common dictionaries, words that many reasonable people might find upsetting or objectionable. A quick search on Wiktionary.org easily turns up a number of offensive "urban slang" terms that you won't find in popular dictionaries such as one that you referenced, the New Oxford American Dictionary included in Mac OS X.
I'm sorry, but Apples own dictionary app that will return the definition of the words "cunt" and "nigger", and I don't think there is anything more offensive.
The Blu Ray disc is pretty vital when you look at the sizes of PS3 exclusive titles. Liar (a much better game than reviews indicate) is about 25GB in size. Metal Gear Solid 4 is even larger and there's no disc swapping. There are already suggestions as to how much of a nightmare the latest Final Fantasy game will be if it is ever release on the XBox360 due to the number of DVDs required.
Myself, I don't want a cheaper, slimmed down PS3. I want a deluxe mode. I would likely pick up a new console if Sony would create a new PS3 with full hardware PS2 support.
I have the 60GB European model that came with PS2 software support, and I have to say that it's compatibility with PS2 titles is pretty remarkable. When it was first released there were a lot of games that were listed as incompatible (such as Gran Turismo 4 and GTA III) that work great now due to firmware updates (I think around firmware 1.92 backwards compatibility got a lot better). I suspect that the US model with hardware support for PS2 titles may not have benefited as much from software updates. PS2 games (on the European model) can be upscaled to 1080p, and it's great to effectively have as many save games as you like rather than manage memory cards. I gave away my PS2 as I stopped using it.
Unfortunately they don't sell that model of the PS3 anymore, but there are quite a few gaming sites that it is still available from second hand (as well as eBay).
I often consider achievements and trophies to be rather lame versions of challenges that I used to create for myself once I'd finished a game on it's hardest setting. I remember trying to complete Another World without a single death, and playing through Half-Life left handed. I've always found that the tasks I set myself for games far more creative, interesting and rewarding than the arbitrary achievements or trophies in recent games. Oh, and in the first System Shock game I wandered around the space station trying to vaporise all of the corpses before the time limit ran out. I imagined once while I was doing this that if I was ever on trial for murder then this bizarre cadaver removal obsession might be used as evidence against me.
That was one of the things that was truly great in the first two Fallout games, the game would allow you to deviate greatly from the path the designers had anticipated and still keep going. They were great for playing the game totally in character. I still remember getting so annoyed by the president of Vault City that I decided to kill her, then ended up having to wipe all the inhabitants and I was still able to complete the game. In Fallout 3 someone in Rivet City kept passing me in the corridor and calling me a thief. After the third time he did this, acting in character, I shot him for his impudence. I could only knock him unconscious, and he kept getting back up regardless as to how many bullets I implanted into his skull. It was at that point for me that I realised that Fallout 3 was not the sequel I was looking for.
What I find shocking is that the judge believed the person who committed murder did not understand the consequences of his actions, but did not accept an insanity plea.
As I don't wish to be flamed I would also like to comment that I don't believe that video games cause insanity. Magical thinking is as likely to be influenced by books, advertising, cartoons, religion, comic-books (incidentally, I remember when comics were blamed for problem behaviours in children and adolescents before the focus of attention turned to videos, and to games), etc.
If someone does not understand that shooting someone could cause permanent injury (or permanent death) then they are a danger to themselves and to others, and should be treated for their mental illness. If the person in this case truly did not understand that shooting his parents would kill them then it is likely that he was suffering from a form of mental illness before he played Halo 3.
My toast got burnt sometime between 9:59:40 EST (Eastern Standard Time in New South Wales, GMT +10:00) and 10:00:00 EST (GMT +10:00) on Jan 1, 2008 which remarkably corresponds to within at most 20 seconds of the New Year in GMT. I have been making toast with this same wetware non-stop for more than twenty six years and other than the occasional lapse in concentration while speaking on the phone, I have not burnt toast more than 1 or 2 times in 2237 days of cumulative toasting. Nothing other than background processes were running through my mind at the time of the burning. Could this be a coincidence or was there some 2008/2009 rollover issue going on here? Has anyone (other than Zune 30GB owners) noticed similar year-end issues while operating toasters or electronic devices?
I find it unlikely that the $400 million USD that Sony may have paid would have been a major factor for Warner Brothers. While a substantial sum of money (enough to fund two or possibly three big budget films), I'm not convinced that it is enough to sway their decision of format for the next twenty years.
It's much more probable that Warner Brothers had already made their format decision (by waiting to see where the rest of the market was going) and tried to time it right to the maximum payout they could get from Sony.
The major film studios had much more to gain from ensuring that there was only one high definition format than from backing any particular format. I would argue that if Toshiba had offered $500 million USD then Warner Brothers would have rejected that as an extended format war could have cost them more in the long run.
I actually did this a while back (the promotion has been running since December 2007 IIRC). They send both a shirt and a certificate (as a Vista certified salesperson) to whatever name you fill in the form. I did it several times with the names "A Retarded Monkey", "Someone Brain-damaged", etc.
I have a certificate on my wall that states "This certifies that An Ignorant Buffoon has reached the level of excellence to qualify as a Vista Certified Salesperson".
(I'm paraphrasing as I'm not in the office at the moment).
My point was that most of the changes that I expect to see bundled in Vista SP1 are already available as hotfixes, and don't represent any significant change to Vista.
My dislike for Vista stems from the fact that, for me, it is not a useful thing.
Am I becoming excessively cynical for thinking that SP1 for Vista was rushed out the door for marketing reasons?
It's common for people to wait for the first service pack before moving to a new software platform (not just Microsoft's), and I've seen in their marketing they've been attempting to address the "myth" (http://www.microsoft.com/australia/vistafacts/fact.aspx) that Vista won't be ready until SP1.
I'm predicting that SP1 will just be a bunch of already released hotfixes bundled together and won't do much to cover up the stench of excrement the product exudes.
I'm sorry that this is slightly flamebait, but I don't like Microsoft's products that much and I'm still bitter that my employer forced me to install Vista on my work laptop.