Reminds me of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal
"In 1998, when analysts were given a tour of the Enron Energy Services office, they were impressed with how the employees were working so vigorously. In reality, Skilling had moved other employees to the office from other departments (instructing them to pretend to work hard) to create the appearance that the division was larger than it was."
Some have to mimic the bridge of the starship Enterprise from Star Trek others had to mimic size.
or other comments about the data sets been too big or not for domestic use are now history.
Snowden has moved the crypto debate into the 21C and lets hope the next generation of students and professors learn something about trusting their codes and the hardware 'offered'.
Skilled US legal teams will start talking with academics and law makers. Overtime more will become clear and the rest of the world can start thinking about the products they import or who they trust data to.
The FBI would be facing a US court or a non trivial extradition hearing. Real US lawyers and open foreign courts do like to see some evidence and some aspects surrounding a real warrant.
Would the NSA with its military and international background and constant Russian interest really like to hint at vast long term databases in court? Any FBI investigation could use it to make 'hidden' connections and get warrants? Sooner or later crime and countries under FBI watch would wonder about the near perfect digital tracking and change their methods.
You also have the 'freedom fighters" been run by the CIA/MI6 - would the NSA ever let the FBI get to close to international operations funded from the US?
I dont think the FBI would be caught as too so many other agencies have very good reasons not to share too much.
Re technical means and what was Operation Fairplay back in ~2005~2008:
Senator: Let's monitor P2P for illegal files http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9920665-7.html
"for purposes of longer-term tracking, the software captures "unique serial numbers" from the person's computer "
Tor seemed to be the next step or was on the list with irc and any other method of moving files?
The insight is a list of ip hunting drag net operations and how just been found reading news via privacy tools on the 'net' could soon be a life changing event ie no-fly list or soon a no buy list.
Great points woofygoofy.
As others have mentioned its all a huge fishing trip around basic domestic rights with a long term storage and mapping options.
Organised crime and drug dealers would have been warned during project testing by layers of state and federal corruption i.e. friends in the politics, police and press.
Tracking long term political protestors seems to be about the only aspect that this method will work for.
The Patriot Act still falls ***under*** constitutional rights:)
The interesting aspect about all the domestic abuses is that skilled US lawyers will notice the colour of law efforts and go to court.
Over time the lawyers will win.
What are the options? Extra laws and more lost court cases?
More gag orders? More federally security cleared legal teams for state courts?
As any political system doubles down with yet more security laws the more clear abuse becomes to all.
You lift the car into a EM shielded truck and drive to a EM shielded site.
Enter the stolen car and get your computer working on the theft-prevention system over a few hours, days...
Your car turns up tracker free in another part of the world with a compatible new entry system.
Trusted bodyguard/driver are now the new theft-prevention system.
As people have noted, educate your community about other internet options. http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/05/community-fiber/
Understand your State, your local laws and then read up about what other people did in choice limited regions.
Cold you dont get to have "interplay" or "precedent" or updated, add on "national security law" with the US Constitution.
In other parts of the world you can add national security laws to some domestic telco law and all is fine.
In other parts of the world you can weaken domestic rights for national security and all is fine.
The Foreign Intelligence Court of Review was for "Foreign" use not internal domestic US use.
That is why historically you had the domestic operations and the "foreign" operations side in the US ie "international communications without court permission"
Only the GCHQ and NSA can shape international telco standards and end user cryptography. They set the early EU/NATO export grade cypher machine standards, the consumer digital age was theirs to shape. The idea that some country with some satellite dishes and mirroring all optical in their region can have global reach is a joke.
You need physical global reach and a deep under standing of the systems in use. Very few countries ever had that.
The US law is clear 'pretty much always requested" does not work well in any domestic US legal setting. The defendants legal team (security cleared) still gets to see evidence. They still get to ask questions. Lawyers in the US dont like terms like "apparently legal and proper"
"Congress passed the laws authorizing" does not undo, loop around, remove or weaken any constitutional rights.
The US has The Fourth Amendment. That makes any domestic telco laws very interesting i.e. a real court, a real warrant vs self authorisation.
Other parts of the world are different, just add to a telco act/law and you can do 'stuff' until you need to ~arrest and its all legal.
Yes my thought too - why is the facility unfriendly for local processing? A prison, super fund site, in the ocean, a blimp, some size/heat issues?
What produces images so fast and a that depth? Computer animation work done extra cheap?
The optical part is ? too. That does not sound best effort average telco loop cheap. The term analysis but at their convenience?
If he was a spy he could have been left in place long term gaining ever more trust or escaped early during his Swiss work.
Longer term he could have seen how US crypto policy was shaped/formed rather than a moving out with a set selection of material from one generation of tech.
Why turn over the documents to journalists in a public way - the instant result for Russia is the US changes 'everything' very quickly.
Would you let slip about Enigma? Aspects of the VENONA decrypted documents? Knowing about the Berlin telco tunnel?
The KGB and GRU in the old days expected a few things from their human spies - insights into any crypto and the good possibility of moving up in their selected area of expertise.
Staying safe, getting more useful material or uncovering spies within the Soviet Union. They where very aware of getting junk or risking their own in the West as part of any larger trap - long or short term.
The CIA and NSA hunted for every trace of the computer files moving over a network or on a person - Moscow seems like the only safe option.
The nice PR work is in that Russia wins both ways. The press has the files. If it is a trap, Russia was just seen as having offered protection.
The sockpuppets have been hard at work. The data set from the 'internet' was too big, how can you store it all, brands would never risk their stock price, its was all 'legal', just outside the USA and now the spy aspect. Every new press story makes the sockpuppets have to fall back a bit more.
I found Windows 7 and 8 have been perfect for games too:) Great frame rate, good use of network, intel cpu and nvidia gpu. O instability or blue screens as well.
"Who" is paying for the stream of pics of such quality and via a "very high speed fiber optic network"
eg. If you are counting wildlife, ask the gov/state for more hardware.
Cash might be very tight but gov data storage options should be usable.
Is it OCR on cars? Changes in activity around buildings?
If the "facility" has the need and cash to pay for images to be taken, optical and your work - ask for more cheap, fast storage.
As for the "cloud" and the nature of your work be aware that the US and a few other govs can have a look anytime. http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/whistleblower-reveals-australias-spy-agency-has-access-to-internet-codes-20130906-2tand.html
Best to air gap the 'results' part of your work from the bulk input and keep it all internal.
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Reminds me of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal
"In 1998, when analysts were given a tour of the Enron Energy Services office, they were impressed with how the employees were working so vigorously. In reality, Skilling had moved other employees to the office from other departments (instructing them to pretend to work hard) to create the appearance that the division was larger than it was."
Some have to mimic the bridge of the starship Enterprise from Star Trek others had to mimic size.
or other comments about the data sets been too big or not for domestic use are now history.
Snowden has moved the crypto debate into the 21C and lets hope the next generation of students and professors learn something about trusting their codes and the hardware 'offered'.
Skilled US legal teams will start talking with academics and law makers. Overtime more will become clear and the rest of the world can start thinking about the products they import or who they trust data to.
It used to sound so neat when it was compromising emanations and the faint signal gave you plaintext. :)
Now you can walk in and plug in
The FBI would be facing a US court or a non trivial extradition hearing. Real US lawyers and open foreign courts do like to see some evidence and some aspects surrounding a real warrant.
Would the NSA with its military and international background and constant Russian interest really like to hint at vast long term databases in court? Any FBI investigation could use it to make 'hidden' connections and get warrants?
Sooner or later crime and countries under FBI watch would wonder about the near perfect digital tracking and change their methods.
You also have the 'freedom fighters" been run by the CIA/MI6 - would the NSA ever let the FBI get to close to international operations funded from the US?
I dont think the FBI would be caught as too so many other agencies have very good reasons not to share too much.
Re technical means and what was Operation Fairplay back in ~2005~2008:
Senator: Let's monitor P2P for illegal files
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9920665-7.html
"for purposes of longer-term tracking, the software captures "unique serial numbers" from the person's computer "
Tor seemed to be the next step or was on the list with irc and any other method of moving files?
The insight is a list of ip hunting drag net operations and how just been found reading news via privacy tools on the 'net' could soon be a life changing event ie no-fly list or soon a no buy list.
Try felony counts evidence tampering, witness tampering, intimidation and sheriff in google with a one year date limit.
Great points woofygoofy.
As others have mentioned its all a huge fishing trip around basic domestic rights with a long term storage and mapping options.
Organised crime and drug dealers would have been warned during project testing by layers of state and federal corruption i.e. friends in the politics, police and press.
Tracking long term political protestors seems to be about the only aspect that this method will work for.
The Patriot Act still falls ***under*** constitutional rights :)
The interesting aspect about all the domestic abuses is that skilled US lawyers will notice the colour of law efforts and go to court.
Over time the lawyers will win.
What are the options? Extra laws and more lost court cases?
More gag orders? More federally security cleared legal teams for state courts?
As any political system doubles down with yet more security laws the more clear abuse becomes to all.
You lift the car into a EM shielded truck and drive to a EM shielded site.
Enter the stolen car and get your computer working on the theft-prevention system over a few hours, days...
Your car turns up tracker free in another part of the world with a compatible new entry system.
Trusted bodyguard/driver are now the new theft-prevention system.
As people have noted, educate your community about other internet options.
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/05/community-fiber/
Understand your State, your local laws and then read up about what other people did in choice limited regions.
Cold you dont get to have "interplay" or "precedent" or updated, add on "national security law" with the US Constitution.
In other parts of the world you can add national security laws to some domestic telco law and all is fine.
In other parts of the world you can weaken domestic rights for national security and all is fine.
The Foreign Intelligence Court of Review was for "Foreign" use not internal domestic US use.
That is why historically you had the domestic operations and the "foreign" operations side in the US ie "international communications without court permission"
New Zealand and Australia may soon be getting the keys to the net encryption too.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/whistleblower-reveals-australias-spy-agency-has-access-to-internet-codes-20130906-2tand.html
Only the GCHQ and NSA can shape international telco standards and end user cryptography. They set the early EU/NATO export grade cypher machine standards, the consumer digital age was theirs to shape. The idea that some country with some satellite dishes and mirroring all optical in their region can have global reach is a joke.
You need physical global reach and a deep under standing of the systems in use. Very few countries ever had that.
Thanks for that insight into US history and UK law.
The US law is clear 'pretty much always requested" does not work well in any domestic US legal setting. The defendants legal team (security cleared) still gets to see evidence. They still get to ask questions. Lawyers in the US dont like terms like "apparently legal and proper"
"Congress passed the laws authorizing" does not undo, loop around, remove or weaken any constitutional rights.
The US has The Fourth Amendment. That makes any domestic telco laws very interesting i.e. a real court, a real warrant vs self authorisation.
Other parts of the world are different, just add to a telco act/law and you can do 'stuff' until you need to ~arrest and its all legal.
Yes my thought too - why is the facility unfriendly for local processing? A prison, super fund site, in the ocean, a blimp, some size/heat issues?
What produces images so fast and a that depth? Computer animation work done extra cheap?
The optical part is ? too. That does not sound best effort average telco loop cheap. The term analysis but at their convenience?
If he was a spy he could have been left in place long term gaining ever more trust or escaped early during his Swiss work.
Longer term he could have seen how US crypto policy was shaped/formed rather than a moving out with a set selection of material from one generation of tech.
Why turn over the documents to journalists in a public way - the instant result for Russia is the US changes 'everything' very quickly.
Would you let slip about Enigma? Aspects of the VENONA decrypted documents? Knowing about the Berlin telco tunnel?
The KGB and GRU in the old days expected a few things from their human spies - insights into any crypto and the good possibility of moving up in their selected area of expertise.
Staying safe, getting more useful material or uncovering spies within the Soviet Union. They where very aware of getting junk or risking their own in the West as part of any larger trap - long or short term.
The CIA and NSA hunted for every trace of the computer files moving over a network or on a person - Moscow seems like the only safe option.
The nice PR work is in that Russia wins both ways. The press has the files. If it is a trap, Russia was just seen as having offered protection.
The sockpuppets have been hard at work. The data set from the 'internet' was too big, how can you store it all, brands would never risk their stock price, its was all 'legal', just outside the USA and now the spy aspect. Every new press story makes the sockpuppets have to fall back a bit more.
Foreign snooping not domestic snooping.
The "power" may soon be in the hands of Australia and New Zealand too: http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/whistleblower-reveals-australias-spy-agency-has-access-to-internet-codes-20130906-2tand.html
Finding out global networking encryption is junk is not "political turmoil, infighting, and disruption".
I found Windows 7 and 8 have been perfect for games too :) Great frame rate, good use of network, intel cpu and nvidia gpu. O instability or blue screens as well.
I get the feeling they have to work on or respond to one frame in near real time? What products produce the number of and that type of file 24/7?
"Who" is paying for the stream of pics of such quality and via a "very high speed fiber optic network"
eg. If you are counting wildlife, ask the gov/state for more hardware.
Cash might be very tight but gov data storage options should be usable.
Is it OCR on cars? Changes in activity around buildings?
If the "facility" has the need and cash to pay for images to be taken, optical and your work - ask for more cheap, fast storage.
As for the "cloud" and the nature of your work be aware that the US and a few other govs can have a look anytime.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/whistleblower-reveals-australias-spy-agency-has-access-to-internet-codes-20130906-2tand.html Best to air gap the 'results' part of your work from the bulk input and keep it all internal.