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Well, the issue is more that most of these people who are "dying" are no where near dead. It may take a year or more for them to die. Furthermore, many of these "advances" add only one or two months of survival to someone with a one year survival to begin with. If animal testing is skipped, you may well reduce the time that these people have and for what?
Also, many therapies such as say aspirin during myocardial infarction offer great benefit; however, a new medication that may be "better" than aspirin may only be marginally better. So say only one in 10 above those already taking ASA will benefit. This can be proven to be statistically significant, but if it comes at a high cost, skipping animal studies may harm or kill a lot of people to find out. What if twice as many had life threatening bleeds? No animal study to base this on. Researcher saying likely better than aspirin? I think the US model as slow as it may be - was built out of a good understanding of safety needs as well as patient needs. And yes, there are exceptions made for emergent therapies. For example novalung (http://medgadget.com/archives/2007/02/novalung_ila_me.html) has only been used twice in the US - despite it not being approved. These were true life threatening situations.
Right, so you are trying to say that we need to stop Hollywood? I am all for it!
Unfortunately, I think most people will think you are being sarcastic and I am just going for a "funny" mod. I am quite serious, but I will take the funny since people may actually get to see my post about how hollywood has gone too far and we need more exposure of indie films, but now I fear I am off topic.
because it is not embedded in a way that you don't know what is happening and can be turned off.
In a world of open source and alternatives, this will push the paranoid to other pastures.
I started with slackware years ago and went through mandrake, gentoo and now to ubuntu largely following popular trends (and with the exception of gentoo) and ease of use. This has potential to greatly help the distribution in terms of marketing and convincing others to provide for the segment. So long as it doesn't break basic principles of openness, I probably wouldn't remove it.
WEll, that was my point. You can be spied on by everyone else - it takes out part of the corruption issue. If the camera's are open, it reduces peoples ability to hide the truth - which may not be such a bad thing.
Sure, criminals can use it to know when you are out of the house, but you will be able to catch them when they break in!... wait... ok fine, you win.
How about the high violent crime rate? The fact that people don't stop at lights out of fear? Those are most definitely not wrong. Its better to let robbers have their victims kneel at the corner of the street and be executed than to have a surveillance system.
What people feel is wrong about the surveillance system is the potential for abuse - and their is tons of it, but we don't live in a world where people go down the street holding hands while skipping and singing songs. The very reason people fear surveillance is its potential for abuse by the same villains that walk the street.
Did it ever occur that if surveillance was open and all video was available to all people that it may actually prove beneficial? Openness doesn't need to stop at software. Public areas being truly public may have more benefits than you may think. Perhaps if you could record your own actions through the day, it could counter any interruption or hacking with the grid. There is a lot of room for abuse, but also a lot of room for securing the safety of thousands of people.
um... I believe you are mistaken about a scratchproof screen not being possible. All we need to do is make it from a giant single diamond piece about 10.1" in diagnoal radius and a consistent 1-2mm in thickness.... Should be easy and its only made from carbon so I will guess it will be really cheap.
a flying spaghetti monster? Is this the proof the church has needed? Maybe this will cause disheavel and split the followers into the flying slime camp vs the orthodox pastrafarians.
Could you imagine a nation whose citizens are not informed about this? They will develop new fears. "Billy, don't look at the sky you might go blind". and then after Billy goes blind from looking at the laser beam, the island gets hit with a tsunami at which point they will accuse Billy of being a prophet of doom.
Well, in conclusion, I think opt-in with formal education about not looking in a particular direction in the sky would be a good thing.
Here are some cheap platforms that are robust, programmable and have a fairly substantial geek appeal that may meet your very needs:
TI-89, TI-92, TI-86
HP48gx
I haven't used my TI-89 or TI-85 for over five years, but I turned on the calc about a month or so ago and it runs beutifully. I heard casio makes some as well, but never used one of those.
PS: I love putting things in "quotes"
H1N1 is a particular strain of influenza A that has made its way around the world and vaccination against this strain is being done separate from the seasonal flu shot. Concern over this strain is related to its virulence and early reports of death amongst young, immunocompetent individuals - people normally not adversely affected by influenza.
The common cold and the flu are not the same thing - there is a believed to be a high mortality from influenza ( http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/163/2/181 ) as compared to the cold (corona virus (with exception of SARSCoV, rhinovirus - deaths generally related to asthmatic patients). 40,000+ deaths per year is a significant mortality rate. Morbidity from influenza would be much more. It makes it difficult to believe that it should be overlooked.
Due to a long history of unethical behavior in the medical field, there are stringent requirements that require one to show a need for research and to demonstrate safety concerns before one can begin an investigation.
This often means that simple experiments that could show benefit and harm of an intervention will not be done because of a large body of circumstantial evidence.
There has to be a fairly even view of outcomes on both sides of a trial before it will be approved - or other studies showing possible efficacy of the side that is under question will need to be done first.
When these situations arise, one can often perform the experiment in a subset of the population in which vaccine efficacy is questioned and benefits are unknown.
The population of HIV infected individuals is one such population and there are double-blind placebo controlled trials done in this group. The annals of internal medicine (an American College of Phyicians publication) http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/131/6/430 published an investigation showing the efficacy of the influenza vaccine in a population that was least likely to benefit from it. While mortality data is not available here, its results stand on their own as a testament to the clinical efficacy of the vaccine.
It was the people running the corporations. Don't let them hide behind the company on this one - let the people involved stand for themselves and be judged in a court of law. I don't believe the companies were charged with any wrongdoing on this one.
Definitely not trolling, but missing the mark. The drugs only cost that much in the US - the rest of the world gets fairly fair prices from US/non-US pharma companies benefiting (sometimes indirectly) from US government funding.
Lets say I want to legally sell product X. A take down notice is issued and product X is delisted after a number of bids. I file a counterclaim and it doesn't go back up. I switch to say yahoo auctions (if it still exists?). Someone bids half of what the high bid on ebay was and it sells. I decide that ebay has now interfered with my business of selling second-hand goods. I think I might be able to make a case for liability.
amazing how a little "children can actually use" and "all slashdot readers" juxtaposition can lead an insightful comment to +5 funny. you know, a little mixed bag wouldn't have hurt (I just ran out of mod points).
The way I see it, we are in a good disposition to try and judge the technology. Readers of/. should try it out. It has other potential uses as well. I have already been using Ubuntu in this fashion for about 6 months now. It is absolutely phenomenal. And if you will indulge some self-promotion - http://slaps.sf.net/ is what I use this thing to boot (aside from occassional regular docs). I have a work environment almost exclusively windows, and now I have a means to use my home-brew software to dramatically cut costs.
and by capturing THAT generated wind and driving it back to the cities, we can power more machines to produce more heat! The less efficient the system the more heat we can produce! Bring back the incandescents!
Just when you thought I was done - there's more! By eliminating the birds, we reduce the reservoir for west nile... days at the beach are so much safer when aerial bombardment is taken off the table.
The boats on the Hudson wouldn't need to worry about planes making emergency landings.
Scarecrows could find better jobs...
Rodents could come out of hiding... lest there be cats...
Insects will only need to worry about man...
People pondering on dreary midnights don't need to fear ravens gently rapping, rapping at their chamber doors.
Children will realize that storks couldn't have possibly brought them...
the reservoir for rabies would be gone (ok this is bats, but come on - I had a good run with the birds).
http://www.consumersunion.org/pub/core_financial_services/004801.html
Apparently in some states, they should not be able to do this. Of course I may not understand the full extent of the law as it applies, but it seems to me that this is a consumer product and they are refusing to sell based off of a lack of social security num...
I agree with the notion that corporate taxes are not necessarily passed on as it it post expense money that is taxed. They get to right off the development and production costs as it is, so it is only the money that reaches the corporations pockets that are taxed.
It may be prudent to scale these back - so long as you simultaneously put in place capital gains taxes and adequate taxes on dividends to compensate for this. Also, I don't buy the double taxation bit. Corporations provide protection to the investors and to some degree employees and board members against crimes of the corporation. If they are to be treated as separate entities, than they should do their part in maintaining the governments expenses.
As to dropping wages in california as a response to unemployment - minimum wage is $8 - federal min wage is $6.55. The best min wage you can get ni china is comperable to 60c per hour. Competition does not apply.
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Well, the issue is more that most of these people who are "dying" are no where near dead. It may take a year or more for them to die. Furthermore, many of these "advances" add only one or two months of survival to someone with a one year survival to begin with. If animal testing is skipped, you may well reduce the time that these people have and for what?
Also, many therapies such as say aspirin during myocardial infarction offer great benefit; however, a new medication that may be "better" than aspirin may only be marginally better. So say only one in 10 above those already taking ASA will benefit. This can be proven to be statistically significant, but if it comes at a high cost, skipping animal studies may harm or kill a lot of people to find out. What if twice as many had life threatening bleeds? No animal study to base this on. Researcher saying likely better than aspirin? I think the US model as slow as it may be - was built out of a good understanding of safety needs as well as patient needs. And yes, there are exceptions made for emergent therapies. For example novalung (http://medgadget.com/archives/2007/02/novalung_ila_me.html) has only been used twice in the US - despite it not being approved. These were true life threatening situations.
Right! And I am allowed to say what it is I am allowed to say!
Right, so you are trying to say that we need to stop Hollywood? I am all for it!
Unfortunately, I think most people will think you are being sarcastic and I am just going for a "funny" mod. I am quite serious, but I will take the funny since people may actually get to see my post about how hollywood has gone too far and we need more exposure of indie films, but now I fear I am off topic.
Watch employees work? No.
You just shut the door and assume everything goes to plan. What?
because it is not embedded in a way that you don't know what is happening and can be turned off. In a world of open source and alternatives, this will push the paranoid to other pastures. I started with slackware years ago and went through mandrake, gentoo and now to ubuntu largely following popular trends (and with the exception of gentoo) and ease of use. This has potential to greatly help the distribution in terms of marketing and convincing others to provide for the segment. So long as it doesn't break basic principles of openness, I probably wouldn't remove it.
WEll, that was my point. You can be spied on by everyone else - it takes out part of the corruption issue. If the camera's are open, it reduces peoples ability to hide the truth - which may not be such a bad thing.
Sure, criminals can use it to know when you are out of the house, but you will be able to catch them when they break in!... wait... ok fine, you win.
How about the high violent crime rate? The fact that people don't stop at lights out of fear? Those are most definitely not wrong. Its better to let robbers have their victims kneel at the corner of the street and be executed than to have a surveillance system.
What people feel is wrong about the surveillance system is the potential for abuse - and their is tons of it, but we don't live in a world where people go down the street holding hands while skipping and singing songs. The very reason people fear surveillance is its potential for abuse by the same villains that walk the street.
Did it ever occur that if surveillance was open and all video was available to all people that it may actually prove beneficial? Openness doesn't need to stop at software. Public areas being truly public may have more benefits than you may think. Perhaps if you could record your own actions through the day, it could counter any interruption or hacking with the grid. There is a lot of room for abuse, but also a lot of room for securing the safety of thousands of people.
um... I believe you are mistaken about a scratchproof screen not being possible. All we need to do is make it from a giant single diamond piece about 10.1" in diagnoal radius and a consistent 1-2mm in thickness.... Should be easy and its only made from carbon so I will guess it will be really cheap.
I thought that was a stack not a queue
a flying spaghetti monster? Is this the proof the church has needed? Maybe this will cause disheavel and split the followers into the flying slime camp vs the orthodox pastrafarians.
Could you imagine a nation whose citizens are not informed about this? They will develop new fears. "Billy, don't look at the sky you might go blind". and then after Billy goes blind from looking at the laser beam, the island gets hit with a tsunami at which point they will accuse Billy of being a prophet of doom.
Well, in conclusion, I think opt-in with formal education about not looking in a particular direction in the sky would be a good thing.
Here are some cheap platforms that are robust, programmable and have a fairly substantial geek appeal that may meet your very needs: TI-89, TI-92, TI-86 HP48gx I haven't used my TI-89 or TI-85 for over five years, but I turned on the calc about a month or so ago and it runs beutifully. I heard casio makes some as well, but never used one of those. PS: I love putting things in "quotes"
thank you for xeroxin' that quote off their website, saved me some googling time.
H1N1 is a particular strain of influenza A that has made its way around the world and vaccination against this strain is being done separate from the seasonal flu shot. Concern over this strain is related to its virulence and early reports of death amongst young, immunocompetent individuals - people normally not adversely affected by influenza.
The common cold and the flu are not the same thing - there is a believed to be a high mortality from influenza ( http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/163/2/181 ) as compared to the cold (corona virus (with exception of SARSCoV, rhinovirus - deaths generally related to asthmatic patients). 40,000+ deaths per year is a significant mortality rate. Morbidity from influenza would be much more. It makes it difficult to believe that it should be overlooked.
Due to a long history of unethical behavior in the medical field, there are stringent requirements that require one to show a need for research and to demonstrate safety concerns before one can begin an investigation.
This often means that simple experiments that could show benefit and harm of an intervention will not be done because of a large body of circumstantial evidence.
There has to be a fairly even view of outcomes on both sides of a trial before it will be approved - or other studies showing possible efficacy of the side that is under question will need to be done first.
When these situations arise, one can often perform the experiment in a subset of the population in which vaccine efficacy is questioned and benefits are unknown.
The population of HIV infected individuals is one such population and there are double-blind placebo controlled trials done in this group.
The annals of internal medicine (an American College of Phyicians publication) http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/131/6/430 published an investigation showing the efficacy of the influenza vaccine in a population that was least likely to benefit from it. While mortality data is not available here, its results stand on their own as a testament to the clinical efficacy of the vaccine.
It was the people running the corporations. Don't let them hide behind the company on this one - let the people involved stand for themselves and be judged in a court of law. I don't believe the companies were charged with any wrongdoing on this one.
Bristol-Meyer-Squibb - a new york company getting federal help: http://www.cptech.org/ip/health/taxol/
novartis (not even a US company) benefitted from US gov money while developing imatinib:
http://medicynic.com/2008/03/04/generics-on-the-rise-get-glivec-gleevec-in-india/
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/01/26/stories/2006012601150500.htm
Here is some reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayh-Dole_Act - look specifically at the ritonavir section
Definitely not trolling, but missing the mark. The drugs only cost that much in the US - the rest of the world gets fairly fair prices from US/non-US pharma companies benefiting (sometimes indirectly) from US government funding.
Lets say I want to legally sell product X. A take down notice is issued and product X is delisted after a number of bids. I file a counterclaim and it doesn't go back up. I switch to say yahoo auctions (if it still exists?). Someone bids half of what the high bid on ebay was and it sells. I decide that ebay has now interfered with my business of selling second-hand goods. I think I might be able to make a case for liability.
Good advice Wally! -- Dilbert
iProphet may currently be cooler than profit.net but both totally suck.
amazing how a little "children can actually use" and "all slashdot readers" juxtaposition can lead an insightful comment to +5 funny. you know, a little mixed bag wouldn't have hurt (I just ran out of mod points).
The way I see it, we are in a good disposition to try and judge the technology. Readers of /. should try it out. It has other potential uses as well. I have already been using Ubuntu in this fashion for about 6 months now. It is absolutely phenomenal. And if you will indulge some self-promotion - http://slaps.sf.net/ is what I use this thing to boot (aside from occassional regular docs). I have a work environment almost exclusively windows, and now I have a means to use my home-brew software to dramatically cut costs.
and by capturing THAT generated wind and driving it back to the cities, we can power more machines to produce more heat! The less efficient the system the more heat we can produce! Bring back the incandescents!
Just when you thought I was done - there's more! By eliminating the birds, we reduce the reservoir for west nile... days at the beach are so much safer when aerial bombardment is taken off the table.
The boats on the Hudson wouldn't need to worry about planes making emergency landings.
Scarecrows could find better jobs...
Rodents could come out of hiding... lest there be cats...
Insects will only need to worry about man...
People pondering on dreary midnights don't need to fear ravens gently rapping, rapping at their chamber doors.
Children will realize that storks couldn't have possibly brought them...
the reservoir for rabies would be gone (ok this is bats, but come on - I had a good run with the birds).
http://www.consumersunion.org/pub/core_financial_services/004801.html Apparently in some states, they should not be able to do this. Of course I may not understand the full extent of the law as it applies, but it seems to me that this is a consumer product and they are refusing to sell based off of a lack of social security num...
I agree with the notion that corporate taxes are not necessarily passed on as it it post expense money that is taxed. They get to right off the development and production costs as it is, so it is only the money that reaches the corporations pockets that are taxed.
It may be prudent to scale these back - so long as you simultaneously put in place capital gains taxes and adequate taxes on dividends to compensate for this. Also, I don't buy the double taxation bit. Corporations provide protection to the investors and to some degree employees and board members against crimes of the corporation. If they are to be treated as separate entities, than they should do their part in maintaining the governments expenses.
As to dropping wages in california as a response to unemployment - minimum wage is $8 - federal min wage is $6.55. The best min wage you can get ni china is comperable to 60c per hour. Competition does not apply.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S.A._minimum_wages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_law
I am assuming people pay for their orders ;)
sorry, couldn't resist.