Unfortunately that is not exactly the kind of thing i was talking about.
That bounty is for getting linux to run (which requires homebrew running, yes, but that should be different goals/projects).
Note that wiili adds a LOT of requisites appart from running homebrew AND booting linux, such as 'Wiimote, keyboard, mouse, dvd drive, sd-card and network support.', (which is not to be taken lightly)
They even add the requisite of not voiding the warranty:P . I think they took a slightly different goal.
That bounty will probably happen when homebrew is already a reality. Not before or at the same time.
IMHO, a more natural approach would be
1. get homebrew running.
2. get linux to boot.(This one will happen like, almost instantly?;)
3. Improve 1. so that it does not void the warranty..and/or.. add functionality to linux, but again, that will happen 'naturaly'
4. I was tempted to include a 'PROFIT!' step here;-, woops, i already did!
This Coding Competition will hopefully ignite a mass of interest for creating homebrew and emulators on the Nintendo Wii and Nintendo Gamecube.
The article does not encourage homebrew developers to find a new way to run homebrew on the gamecube, far less on the wii itself (in wii-mode). As far as i can tell from the news post, it is just a GC homebrew competition which does not limit the loader to known methods.
It would be far more interesting if someone already 'known' to the homebrew scene would create a bounty for the first person who is able to run homebrew on the wii (in wii mode, that is).
Something similar to what StoneCypher did with the dswifi library, which was done by sgstair(thanks!).
Anyone else noticed that these are really uber-cool demos ?
I would like to see them working with some of the guys from the demoscene or vice versa,
maybe they could learn some things from each other.
if they dont already, that is:)
You say you hit RAM limits and then you complain about having to run 32bit applications...
It might be good for you to know 64bit applications take more RAM as pointers have doubled in size.
This also goes for code and cache, which means applications also become larger (impact in RAM and cache). And 64bit operations are not that much quicker, with some exceptions(some crypto algorythms for example).
So, maybe you should reconsider your situation, running 64bits in your case should not automatically mean better performance;)
Not to be too offtopic, but i noticed the 'funny' fact that nearly all of the game titles
look like this: "GAMEXYZ 8".
Call of Duty 3, Full Auto 2, NBA Live 07, NBA 2K7, NHL 2K7, Rainbow Six Vegas, Tony Hawk's Project 8, Ridge Racer 7...
that gives me the feeling that they are just re-releasing the same games with minor changes but better graphics.
Tony 8? Ridge Racer 7? how many of them will there be ?
Let me tell you why this is *NOT* a pointless thing to me.
The scary part is not DRM alone, but DRM + TC.
This is something Vista will fully support in the future, which means
that the majority of the home PCs in the future will have this.
While it is OK (although i do not like it) to let companies put more and more
restrictions on the software/media that you purchase, one could think.. ok,
so that is their choice and i am not going to spend my money on their product,
since it is MY choice.
But what happens now? What happens when MS is the one who is -sort of a way- "abusing" DRM+TC ?
have you heard of remote attestation and its issues ?
It seems to me that this *could* be a way of gaining a stronger monopoly. What if they lock other (competing)apps or even OSs remotely ?
What if they decide that xyz application is not trusted and may not interact...
Sure, i can chose not to use DRM, but then i am locked out if i dont use what they want me to use.
Now I do NOT have a choice, and might be forced to use their product just because pretty much
every average user does so. There are dozens of uses like this.
One does never know, but i dislike a OS that does not trust me, and boosts the power of those that do not want me to be able to chose.
I could be wrong on some points, but that are some of the reasons of why i dislike that MS is supporting an almost unbreakable(or at least very difficult for now) DRM system.
I dont think that is the service mentioned in the article, since it only provides search-like capabilities. A quick summary and a (free) link to a news site.
As we all know, Vista will have many key upgrades since there are many important features that will be added after the launch as time passes. (such as Monad)
With only part of the 'features available' at launch, vista is far from 'complete'. Let's see if it is ready after the final release AND when most of the stuff is complete and has been properly integrated into Vista.
I would like to see how that new OS works then.
It is well known that people do not patch their servers, even if they are vulnerable to a well-known vulnerability.Simply because they do not take the time to look it up or fix it or whatever..
BUT even the ones who DO patch their servers can do nothing about 0day exploits circulating in the wild. And that goes for the vulerabilities only known to the bad guys, as well as to those announced publicly, but there is no patch.
That is a risk many people take(well, everyone who is vulnerable, which *may* be every windows box for example), versus "lazy" guys who do not patch their servers regularly.
Also, viruses are also much more destructive when they originate from 0day exploits, which can result in an important number of machines being pwned in no time(which has happened quite a few times now,right?)
I do know there are hundreds of vulnerable systems out there.. the script kiddies know best, but to me it is clear why there is certain "hype" about 0days.
When i tried to run it under wine, the first thing it did was ask me to download mozilla active x Looks like they use embedded mozilla's browser engine, which is good i guess:) although that makes it not only 264KB!;)
"Embed the Mozilla browser engine (Gecko) into any ActiveX application. This control implements the same APIs as the Internet Explorer control making porting of existing applications reasonably straightforward."
(However, i was not able to run it under my wine build.) I dont need such a browser when i can just ctrl+shift+del under ff, but its nice to have a 264kB +(how much mozilla active x?well, still small) web browser.
I think it should be "badly supported by" - not that my hardware supports the DS bad.
If my hardware would not support the DS, i think i would be experiencing problems on most of the online games. Since this is not the case, and i see great differences in the network-side stability between games... i bet there must be something unrelated to my hardware which makes some games work better than others.
Since as i said, other games like metroid,tetris or tony hawk work perfectly. Online play is VERY stable(I can play for hours).
The fact that this is not the case for other games (and those are MK and ACWW) is what makes me think that maybe the network code, or something specific to them(client or server side, i dont know), is what makes them more unstable. Also, MK is missing many features when compared to tony hawk. No battle mode for online play, only 'race mode' is available for online play (with limited tracks), no ghost runs uploads/downloads... Yet, both MK and tony hawk came online almost at the same time. And there is a huge difference in quality for online play between both of them. I think the online part of MK was a little bit 'rushed'. (Even though i appreciate very much that they included this feature)
One of the best things about some DS titles is exactly this, being able to play whenever you want with anyone around the world. Moreover, combining the touchscreens possibilities with online play(mario kart logos, Tony Hawk designs.. etc) is outstanding! No other game system has this.
However, i have found several games to have different stability. I dont know if this is all related to my router or connection, but with Mario Kart and ACWW, i have found wifi to be very unstable. ( i rarely get to play more than 10 minutes before getting disconnected).
Furthermore, this does not happen with newer games like Metroid Prime Hunters. I have not been disconnected once in a month now, whereas MK still is highly unstable). I think this might be because of the maturity of the network code. The first games being not so stable as the newer games.
(An interesting fact though, is that Tony Hawk american sk8land is VERY stable, even though it was one of the first titles to be released with online play)
I am looking forward to see more VoIP during gameplay, and maybe even cooperative RPGs:) i think most users would love that.
No, he is certainly not referring to BUG,
but to the warez scene (read on in the article)
He mentions the groups that release the movies, not "leeches";)
I believe that was the first part. Trond answered some more questions for second part(quite larger):
<haavard> <BtEO> Q: Are there any plans for a more detailed preferences interface, perhaps something along the lines of about:config. So we can tweak without having to restart. <trond> yes, we want most/all advanced stuff put further away like that, and make the normal prefs even simpler and focused on what an average user might find useful to change <joenp> rObkE asks: What do you think about the Mac GUI? On some systems it's really slow and Mac users are used to a native user interface (cfr. Apple's HIG). <trond> opera's desktop development has always centered around Windows.. simply because of marketshare.. while a beauitfully native mac UI would have been prefered on the mac platform, the compromise have of wanting a platform-independent UI for ease of development have made the mac version suffer a bit.. and the lack of resources to fine tune mac specific things have made things worse <trond> we hope to improve those things as we get more mac development resources <brianj> yikes asks: How important is it to keep the preferences dialog nice and clean? Does it affects the features you include or rather exclude? <trond> where to draw the line with regards to options etc is probably one of the most difficult ones.. when it comes to browsers today, it has almost become some sort of less-is-more hype to the extent that browsers almost compete to take away most things, just so that they won't get the "most complex browser in class" label.. but in the end, it's still difficult to draw the line.. we have had power users as our users, since average users would <trond> never switch browsers.. that has now changed, and it makes it even more difficult.. <haavard> <manxstar> Don't you think that the SUPER customization ability of Opera is something that keeps beginners away from using Opera? I myself witnessed that and not only once... ? <brianj> lking asks: why did opera switch to a skinnable interface with a standard windows ui only being emulated? are skins a major selling factor or is the multi-platform support the reason? <trond> manxstar: I think that is correct, to some extent.. making everything so customizable was actuallly my way of trying to simplify Opera.. because I knew that I had to keep our current user base of power users happy since they are so important to us, so before I could simplify the defaults, I had to make it possible to get back to old design through some kind of options/customization... but that also had it's prize.. but the overall outcome was <trond> to the better I think.. <trond> lking: skinning has been quiet a selling point for a niche browser like Opera, but it's true that it's not a very big deal for average user.. however, the whole skinable and platform independent UI system for Opera was needed to be able to make decent development possible for all platforms with limited resources... <joenp> Attention: Yes, there will be a transcript of this whole talk:) <trond> will it correct my spelling errors?:D <joenp> Verbatim;) <trond> I guess it's my fault that we don't yet have inline edit red-underline spelling check while you type anyway:) <joenp> Keiichi asks: Will you ever release the source code of old versions, eg. Opera 3? <trond> I cannot really answer that one, but I don't think it'll happen anytime soon at least.. ns to support a one-flie page saving format? <trond> dipnlik: yeah... AFAIK we support to read it, but not save it.. yet.. it's on the todo list afaik, but not sure where it is in the pipeline <joenp> CSMan asks: Will opera support plugins on freebsd 5.x with x.org ? there's a
imho,
having experience in both areas is great for
not having to stick with CS, as more job possibilities may come to you.
However, i think a CS student not only has technical knowledge when it comes to programming in C/C++, Java or whatever, but he should be able to know the ways of "Software Engineering", which is much more than that.
Many people can read a book about C and try to develop a program, or contribute to a project, but
managing and coordinating many people working together on a big project that needs to be reliable and mantainable is another thing.
Also, which language is "hot" at the moment should not really matter, because after doing CS you learn the life cycle of software(lets call it like that) and not a specific language.
so for having opportunities with a "greater view" not sticking to one side may be fine, but that way i dont think/know you will get as much profund knowledge as for dedicating the whole career to a "single area".
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Well, i think this has nothing to do with IBM, since they sold all their PC business to Lenovo.
Unfortunately that is not exactly the kind of thing i was talking about.
:P . I think they took a slightly different goal.
That bounty will probably happen when homebrew is already a reality. Not before or at the same time.
;) ..and/or.. add functionality to linux, but again, that will happen 'naturaly' ;-, woops, i already did!
That bounty is for getting linux to run (which requires homebrew running, yes, but that should be different goals/projects).
Note that wiili adds a LOT of requisites appart from running homebrew AND booting linux, such as 'Wiimote, keyboard, mouse, dvd drive, sd-card and network support.', (which is not to be taken lightly)
They even add the requisite of not voiding the warranty
IMHO, a more natural approach would be
1. get homebrew running.
2. get linux to boot.(This one will happen like, almost instantly?
3. Improve 1. so that it does not void the warranty
4. I was tempted to include a 'PROFIT!' step here
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This Coding Competition will hopefully ignite a mass of interest for creating homebrew and emulators on the Nintendo Wii and Nintendo Gamecube.
The article does not encourage homebrew developers to find a new way to run homebrew on the gamecube, far less on the wii itself (in wii-mode). As far as i can tell from the news post, it is just a GC homebrew competition which does not limit the loader to known methods.
It would be far more interesting if someone already 'known' to the homebrew scene would create a bounty for the first person who is able to run homebrew on the wii (in wii mode, that is).
Something similar to what StoneCypher did with the dswifi library, which was done by sgstair(thanks!).
Huh? No "Profit!" step!?
It will be interesting to see how the sequel evolves from the original StarCraft, though
Anyone else noticed that these are really uber-cool demos ? :)
I would like to see them working with some of the guys from the demoscene or vice versa,
maybe they could learn some things from each other.
if they dont already, that is
You say you hit RAM limits and then you complain about having to run 32bit applications...
;)
It might be good for you to know 64bit applications take more RAM as pointers have doubled in size.
This also goes for code and cache, which means applications also become larger (impact in RAM and cache).
And 64bit operations are not that much quicker, with some exceptions(some crypto algorythms for example).
So, maybe you should reconsider your situation, running 64bits in your case should not automatically mean better performance
Of course not.
Everybody knows they count their employees with one hand.
Thus, the most employees they could have would be 32.
Not to be too offtopic, but i noticed the 'funny' fact that nearly all of the game titles
...
that gives me the feeling that they are just re-releasing the same games with minor changes but better graphics.
look like this: "GAMEXYZ 8".
Call of Duty 3, Full Auto 2, NBA Live 07, NBA 2K7, NHL 2K7, Rainbow Six Vegas, Tony Hawk's Project 8, Ridge Racer 7
Tony 8? Ridge Racer 7? how many of them will there be ?
*sigh*
Let me tell you why this is *NOT* a pointless thing to me.
The scary part is not DRM alone, but DRM + TC.
This is something Vista will fully support in the future, which means
that the majority of the home PCs in the future will have this.
While it is OK (although i do not like it) to let companies put more and more
restrictions on the software/media that you purchase, one could think.. ok,
so that is their choice and i am not going to spend my money on their product,
since it is MY choice.
But what happens now? What happens when MS is the one who is -sort of a way- "abusing" DRM+TC ?
have you heard of remote attestation and its issues ?
It seems to me that this *could* be a way of gaining a stronger monopoly. What if they lock other (competing)apps or even OSs remotely ?
What if they decide that xyz application is not trusted and may not interact...
Sure, i can chose not to use DRM, but then i am locked out if i dont use what they want me to use.
Now I do NOT have a choice, and might be forced to use their product just because pretty much
every average user does so. There are dozens of uses like this.
One does never know, but i dislike a OS that does not trust me, and boosts the power of those that do not want me to be able to chose.
I could be wrong on some points, but that are some of the reasons of why i dislike that MS is supporting an almost unbreakable(or at least very difficult for now) DRM system.
I dont think that is the service mentioned in the article, since
it only provides search-like capabilities. A quick summary and a (free) link to a news site.
I, for one, would prefer being able to browse the full database
and having google ads instead of having to pay.
IMHO, if google's 'mission' is to make all the world's information available,
then that would be the best way to go!
As we all know, Vista will have many key upgrades since there are
many important features that will be added after the launch as time passes. (such as Monad)
With only part of the 'features available' at launch, vista is far from 'complete'.
Let's see if it is ready after the final release AND when most of the stuff is complete and has been
properly integrated into Vista.
I would like to see how that new OS works then.
It is well known that people do not patch their servers, even if they are vulnerable to a well-known vulnerability.Simply because they do not take the time to look it up or fix it or whatever..
BUT even the ones who DO patch their servers can do nothing about 0day exploits circulating in the wild.
And that goes for the vulerabilities only known to the bad guys, as well as to those announced publicly, but there is no patch.
That is a risk many people take(well, everyone who is vulnerable, which *may* be every windows box for example),
versus "lazy" guys who do not patch their servers regularly.
Also, viruses are also much more destructive when they originate from 0day exploits, which can result in an important number of machines being pwned in no time(which has happened quite a few times now,right?)
I do know there are hundreds of vulnerable systems out there.. the script kiddies know best, but to me it is clear why there is certain "hype" about 0days.
It uses Mozilla Active X
which is basically embedded gecko with the same API as the IE control.
When i tried to run it under wine, the first thing it did was ask me to download mozilla active x :) ;)
Looks like they use embedded mozilla's browser engine, which is good i guess
although that makes it not only 264KB!
"Embed the Mozilla browser engine (Gecko) into any ActiveX application. This control implements the same APIs as the Internet Explorer control making porting of existing applications reasonably straightforward."
(However, i was not able to run it under my wine build.)
I dont need such a browser when i can just ctrl+shift+del under ff, but its nice to have a
264kB +(how much mozilla active x?well, still small) web browser.
I think it should be "badly supported by" - not that my hardware supports the DS bad.
If my hardware would not support the DS, i think i would be experiencing problems on most of the online games.
Since this is not the case, and i see great differences in the network-side stability between games... i bet there must be something unrelated to my hardware which makes some games work better than others.
Since as i said, other games like metroid,tetris or tony hawk work perfectly. Online play is VERY stable(I can play for hours).
The fact that this is not the case for other games (and those are MK and ACWW) is what makes me think that maybe the network code, or something specific to them(client or server side, i dont know), is what makes them more unstable.
Also, MK is missing many features
when compared to tony hawk. No battle mode for online play, only 'race mode' is available for online play (with limited tracks), no ghost runs uploads/downloads...
Yet, both MK and tony hawk came online almost at the same time. And there is a huge difference in quality for online play between both of them.
I think the online part of MK was a little bit 'rushed'. (Even though i appreciate very much that they included this feature)
One of the best things about some DS titles is exactly this, being able to play
:) i think most users would love that.
whenever you want with anyone around the world.
Moreover, combining the touchscreens possibilities with online play(mario kart logos, Tony Hawk designs.. etc) is outstanding! No other game system has this.
However, i have found several games to have different stability. I dont know if this is all related to my router or connection, but with Mario Kart and ACWW, i have found wifi to be very unstable. ( i rarely get to play more than 10 minutes before getting disconnected).
Furthermore, this does not happen with newer games like Metroid Prime Hunters. I have not been disconnected once in a month now, whereas MK still is highly unstable). I think this might be because of the maturity of the network code. The first games being not so stable as the newer games.
(An interesting fact though, is that Tony Hawk american sk8land is VERY stable, even though it was one of the first titles to be released with online play)
I am looking forward to see more VoIP during gameplay, and maybe even cooperative RPGs
No, he is certainly not referring to BUG, but to the warez scene (read on in the article) He mentions the groups that release the movies, not "leeches" ;)
I believe that was the first part. Trond answered some more questions for second part(quite larger):
:) :D ;) :)
<haavard> <BtEO> Q: Are there any plans for a more detailed preferences interface, perhaps something along the lines of about:config. So we can tweak without having to restart.
<trond> yes, we want most/all advanced stuff put further away like that, and make the normal prefs even simpler and focused on what an average user might find useful to change
<joenp> rObkE asks: What do you think about the Mac GUI? On some systems it's really slow and Mac users are used to a native user interface (cfr. Apple's HIG).
<trond> opera's desktop development has always centered around Windows.. simply because of marketshare.. while a beauitfully native mac UI would have been prefered on the mac platform, the compromise have of wanting a platform-independent UI for ease of development have made the mac version suffer a bit.. and the lack of resources to fine tune mac specific things have made things worse
<trond> we hope to improve those things as we get more mac development resources
<brianj> yikes asks: How important is it to keep the preferences dialog nice and clean? Does it affects the features you include or rather exclude?
<trond> where to draw the line with regards to options etc is probably one of the most difficult ones.. when it comes to browsers today, it has almost become some sort of less-is-more hype to the extent that browsers almost compete to take away most things, just so that they won't get the "most complex browser in class" label.. but in the end, it's still difficult to draw the line.. we have had power users as our users, since average users would
<trond> never switch browsers.. that has now changed, and it makes it even more difficult..
<haavard> <manxstar> Don't you think that the SUPER customization ability of Opera is something that keeps beginners away from using Opera? I myself witnessed that and not only once... ?
<brianj> lking asks: why did opera switch to a skinnable interface with a standard windows ui only being emulated? are skins a major selling factor or is the multi-platform support the reason?
<trond> manxstar: I think that is correct, to some extent.. making everything so customizable was actuallly my way of trying to simplify Opera.. because I knew that I had to keep our current user base of power users happy since they are so important to us, so before I could simplify the defaults, I had to make it possible to get back to old design through some kind of options/customization... but that also had it's prize.. but the overall outcome was
<trond> to the better I think..
<trond> lking: skinning has been quiet a selling point for a niche browser like Opera, but it's true that it's not a very big deal for average user.. however, the whole skinable and platform independent UI system for Opera was needed to be able to make decent development possible for all platforms with limited resources...
<joenp> Attention: Yes, there will be a transcript of this whole talk
<trond> will it correct my spelling errors?
<joenp> Verbatim
<trond> I guess it's my fault that we don't yet have inline edit red-underline spelling check while you type anyway
<joenp> Keiichi asks: Will you ever release the source code of old versions, eg. Opera 3?
<trond> I cannot really answer that one, but I don't think it'll happen anytime soon at least..
ns to support a one-flie page saving format?
<trond> dipnlik: yeah... AFAIK we support to read it, but not save it.. yet.. it's on the todo list afaik, but not sure where it is in the pipeline
<joenp> CSMan asks: Will opera support plugins on freebsd 5.x with x.org ? there's a
imho, having experience in both areas is great for not having to stick with CS, as more job possibilities may come to you. However, i think a CS student not only has technical knowledge when it comes to programming in C/C++, Java or whatever, but he should be able to know the ways of "Software Engineering", which is much more than that. Many people can read a book about C and try to develop a program, or contribute to a project, but managing and coordinating many people working together on a big project that needs to be reliable and mantainable is another thing. Also, which language is "hot" at the moment should not really matter, because after doing CS you learn the life cycle of software(lets call it like that) and not a specific language. so for having opportunities with a "greater view" not sticking to one side may be fine, but that way i dont think/know you will get as much profund knowledge as for dedicating the whole career to a "single area".
.. arguing about whose size is bigger