You put personal risk on par with risk of a global catastrophe! And the billions with a "b" spent for making drilling safer obviously were not spent on making *this* rig safer!
Go back to your corporate overlords, they might drop a bone for you!
Actually, they would happily send their own high power laser "Tsunami Warning Systems" into orbit, aimed at Washington...a friendly gesture towards their U.S. friends... to warn them of a possible tsunami, of course!
Yup, Now they will start a campaign for the freedom of s/Tibet/Taiwan/...yes, s/Tibet/Taiwan/ must be freed from the s/tyrannic Chinese/tyrannic USA friendly/ regime! </Bing China People friendly translator>
Sorry, but this discussion makes no real sense until the moment that you, or someone from your family starts doubting the good guys/bad guys model.
One day you might have to chose sides and to ask yourself whether you are willing to pay the price or not. maybe you could justify to yourself risking your family and children for your believes, but in my eyes that would make you just as big a monster as any nazi fanatic out there.
And don't forget that the truth, usually gets known only after the war - a fact that had many Germans ashamed - and mostly at the victors hand.
Again, I might ask you whether you really can justify going to war (or enlisting in an army) solely on the belief that you are doing the right thing?
P.S. I am not german; my 2 grandfathers fought on different sides during WW2 and the grandfather who was drafted to the wehrmacht later joined the yugoslav partisans, who, backed by the americans and brits, also committed atrocities towards civilians. So, the ones who freed your relatives from the nazis were, in the eyes of some of my relatives, just as monstrous as the nazis themselves.
My whole point is that there are no good or bad guys in war! Usually, a soldier does not choose the side he has to fight for. It could have easily happened that someone from your family got drafted into the german army (My grandfather got drafted and he was neither german nor in germany at that time!).
I will certainly not go to war for any politician. I saw the wars in Croatia and Bosnia firsthand and I can tell you that there were no "bad guys" on the battlefield. Only miserable people, and some disturbed ones who were proud of what they did. Declaring someone to be a bad guy just because he had no choice is not acceptable to me! Oh sorry, I forgot that US soldiers do have a choice...
Imagine the nazis winning the war... their propaganda would have made it very clear that they were the good guys and even you would have believed that your side was the bad one.
Remember that history is being written by the victors.
This discussion was about the morality of an individual willingly accepting to go to war and kill or get killed. As for the allies being the "good guys", there were many atrocities committed by the americans (in italy) and the british (middle east) and others.
Just the fact that your country goes to war to "defend freedom" does not justify your willingness to take other peoples lives!
To tell the truth, I never thought of the *drafted* wehrmacht soldiers as a genocidal mob...but that may be just me! Atrocities have been committed by both sides in this war (not counting the race related political massacres)
But then again...you gotta be one of the good guys, no matter what you might have done!
Um, I understand the need to morally justify any army service, but there is also the point that a soldiers job is to defend his country, to kill the enemy,who also happens to be a soldier/human being who, mostly, also believes that he is defending *his* country And all of that for a monthly salary!
One lie, persistent on all battlefields in the history of humanity is: We're the good guys!
Well said, but the real question was whether there are good and bad guys or just soldiers (people), each fighting for his respective side.
Except to severe sociopaths it is crucial to every soldier to justify his deeds by convincing himself that he is fighting for the "good guys", but in reality, I think, it makes no real difference.
Even the pirates have a "higher cause"; in their own view, they are helping their poor region to get a share of the international trade, monopolized by the richer nations!
Umm...how many hostages have been killed by the pirates to date? Whenever I hear something about the pirates, they only sum up the number of killed pirates!
Arming the "good guys" is a good tactic against the armed "bad guys"... What color is the sky in your world?
Good guys/Bad guys thinking is *exactly* the kind of thing that fuels conflicts in this world. Everyone is just convinced to belong to the good guys... that includes you too!
It still reminds me of the hellish 1970s/80s VAX machines where you could only access your programs/data from a central source, and if that source or connection went down, you were out of luck.
Hey! You obviously never had a teletype. And who goes down??? If yer TTY wouldn't type, you probably forgot to pay the phone bill. And yeah, with some practicing, you could decode the 75bps stream with your ears, sonny!
Slashdot Mirror
realising no to low profit on it).
Um, how do you make no profit on selling virtual property (software)?
So you admit to being a pirate?
*Arrest this man!*
Dude, you're the Moron (with a capital M!)
You put personal risk on par with risk of a global catastrophe!
And the billions with a "b" spent for making drilling safer obviously were not spent on making *this* rig safer!
Go back to your corporate overlords, they might drop a bone for you!
Well, as a typical European porn viewer, I can attest that "Reputable Porn" sucks. Gimme the real stuff or die!
Actually, they would happily send their own high power laser "Tsunami Warning Systems" into orbit, aimed at Washington...a friendly gesture towards their U.S. friends ... to warn them of a possible tsunami, of course!
Yup, Now they will start a campaign for the freedom of s/Tibet/Taiwan/...yes, s/Tibet/Taiwan/ must be freed from the s/tyrannic Chinese/tyrannic USA friendly/ regime! </Bing China People friendly translator>
Selling someone computers is a little less reckless than actually building the gas chamber.
If they censor results, search engines are doing China’s dirty work for it.
Yes, except that today gas chambers will be controlled by computers.
Also Bing *will continue* to do China's dirty work!
"Socializing" - Less profit for health industry investors!
The "American???" way: The ones who have money may live, the ones who don't die!
Btw. Americas fear of socialism reminds me of the drowning man's fear of swimming
Yeah, while *some* drive Cadillacs, the rest are walking by foot ... YUGO's for all, YUGOS FOR AAAALLLLL!!!
Uh, you mean this is less dangerous than activating XP?
Wow, next thing we can expect BSA lawsuits for using unlicensed malware ... long live capitalism!
NImH batteries are 1.2 volts alkaline are 1.5.
12 - 9.6 = an extra 2.4 volts it wasn;t designed for.
Sure, but most electronics today is equipped with a regulator. Also, under load, the Alkaline go rarely over 1.3V
Sorry, but this discussion makes no real sense until the moment that you, or someone from your family starts doubting the good guys/bad guys model.
One day you might have to chose sides and to ask yourself whether you are willing to pay the price or not. maybe you could justify to yourself risking your family and children for your believes, but in my eyes that would make you just as big a monster as any nazi fanatic out there.
And don't forget that the truth, usually gets known only after the war - a fact that had many Germans ashamed - and mostly at the victors hand.
Again, I might ask you whether you really can justify going to war (or enlisting in an army) solely on the belief that you are doing the right thing?
P.S. I am not german; my 2 grandfathers fought on different sides during WW2 and the grandfather who was drafted to the wehrmacht later joined the yugoslav partisans, who, backed by the americans and brits, also committed atrocities towards civilians. So, the ones who freed your relatives from the nazis were, in the eyes of some of my relatives, just as monstrous as the nazis themselves.
My whole point is that there are no good or bad guys in war! Usually, a soldier does not choose the side he has to fight for. It could have easily happened that someone from your family got drafted into the german army (My grandfather got drafted and he was neither german nor in germany at that time!).
I will certainly not go to war for any politician. I saw the wars in Croatia and Bosnia firsthand and I can tell you that there were no "bad guys" on the battlefield. Only miserable people, and some disturbed ones who were proud of what they did. Declaring someone to be a bad guy just because he had no choice is not acceptable to me!
Oh sorry, I forgot that US soldiers do have a choice...
Imagine the nazis winning the war...
their propaganda would have made it very clear that they were the good guys and even you would have believed that your side was the bad one.
Remember that history is being written by the victors.
This discussion was about the morality of an individual willingly accepting to go to war and kill or get killed.
As for the allies being the "good guys", there were many atrocities committed by the americans (in italy) and the british (middle east) and others.
Just the fact that your country goes to war to "defend freedom" does not justify your willingness to take other peoples lives!
To tell the truth, I never thought of the *drafted* wehrmacht soldiers as a genocidal mob...but that may be just me!
Atrocities have been committed by both sides in this war (not counting the race related political massacres)
But then again...you gotta be one of the good guys, no matter what you might have done!
Um, I understand the need to morally justify any army service, but there is also the point that a soldiers job is to defend his country, to kill the enemy,who also happens to be a soldier/human being who, mostly, also believes that he is defending *his* country And all of that for a monthly salary!
One lie, persistent on all battlefields in the history of humanity is: We're the good guys!
Well said, but the real question was whether there are good and bad guys or just soldiers (people), each fighting for his respective side.
Except to severe sociopaths it is crucial to every soldier to justify his deeds by convincing himself that he is fighting for the "good guys", but in reality, I think, it makes no real difference.
Even the pirates have a "higher cause"; in their own view, they are helping their poor region to get a share of the international trade, monopolized by the richer nations!
...it would save many more lifes at the end.
Umm...how many hostages have been killed by the pirates to date? Whenever I hear something about the pirates, they only sum up the number of killed pirates!
Um, which might just give the pirates a god excuse for killing everyone aboard instead of just demanding ransom for letting the ship go!
After all, it's just money they're after ... would you kill for money?
Yeah, Just like I thought, Another Mom's basement warrior! Go for another pizza, big warrior, that might calm you down!
Right, this TFA looks like a scam.
I wonder if they would let some foreign investors in, you know, with some fresh venture capital....
Arming the "good guys" is a good tactic against the armed "bad guys" ... What color is the sky in your world?
Good guys/Bad guys thinking is *exactly* the kind of thing that fuels conflicts in this world. Everyone is just convinced to belong to the good guys ... that includes you too!
Boooring!
show the kids how to build a PotatoGun (tm).
That should keep them interrested
It still reminds me of the hellish 1970s/80s VAX machines where you could only access your programs/data from a central source, and if that source or connection went down, you were out of luck.
Hey! You obviously never had a teletype.
And who goes down??? If yer TTY wouldn't type, you probably forgot to pay the phone bill.
And yeah, with some practicing, you could decode the 75bps stream with your ears, sonny!