Exactly, it seems the submitter did not even RTFA:
Reader J. CC'ed us on an email to Steve Jobs in which he calmly explained that while his Apple II was still working fine, his brand new Macbook is totally defective.
I am arguing that a controlled app repository with a unified installation/deinstallation and update method that actually works is preferably to Window's mess of hunting down applications all over the web, each with its own methods that may or may not work. Especially since a huge number of setup.exes are spyware and similar crap, so that a non-expert user has little chance to survive without being infected.
A good manager has good interpersonal skills and is usually gregarious. Unfortunately a psychopath often does a good job of imitating those characteristics
It's a tie in the multimedia category despite the Ubuntu codecs having to be added after install.
Last time I checked, XP could not even play avi files using the DivX codecs (i.e., 90% of P2P) without hunting down a codec package. Media Player just said "can't find codec". Has this changed in Vista? Because In Ubuntu 7.04 it certainly is automatic.
As soon as you say "Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get (package)", you've lost.
Have you even used Ubuntu, or any Linux distro from the last few years? In Ubuntu I open the Applications menu and find a GUI tool to install and remove software that actually can install software as advertised (contrary to the Windows version which in fact can only reinstall or remove)
Add remove programs in Vista and the package manager Ubuntu work in simila ways
Not even that. I mean, in Ubuntu I can install applications with it, in Windows I just can uninstall them. I think I find Ubuntu's solution much more useful then:)
If a foreign government (for exmaple the USA) conspired with criminals to overthrow my democratically elected government here in Canada and installed a puppet dictator fuck-nut like the Shah I wouldn't kidnap american diploamtic staff, I would shoot them.
Damn, missing mod points again. Thanks for a voice of reason.
I bet I know what it is, we didn't bomb, strafe and kill to get the hostages back, and that makes you mad. -- No, it made me feel humiliated, as did the rest of the country.
Behold, most of what's wrong with the US in just one sentence.
Like I said, the lexus brand just started selling here.
Are you dense? I agreed with you so far, they were initially sold under the Toyota brand just in Japan, and always under the Lexus brand in the rest of the world.
As for the same car (with the same configuration) that sells for $60000 in the US selling for < $18,000 in Japan, how about some links?
I think this is a bit different. See, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_GS. As I said, I _know that they are the same manufacturer, but in this case, they were initially sold under the Toyota brand just in Japan, and always under the Lexus brand in the rest of the world (presumably because in rest of World, "Toyota" has a non-premium ring). While in the case of the NSX, it is sold as Honda everywhere except US.
And you are wrong of you think that the same car as a $60000 Lexus is sold for $18000 in Japan.
You've claimed that the widespread use of Ubuntu will result in more Free software.
I haven't claimed anything of the sort, you might want to reread the thread. I have just rebutted your own erroneous claim that "Ubuntu is encouraging people to ignore the problem of video-driver support, to purchase broken crap from nvidia and to penalise Intel by not selecting their boards and integrated cards".
You are suddenly changing the topic to the amount of code Ubuntu has contributed. I agree that other distros so far have created more substantial code, but we will see how this develops in the future: Ubuntu is scarcely 3 years old, and you just cannot compare it to RedHat and Debian. Even in its short lifetime it has contributed "metric shit-loads" of something the others ignored: polish. RedHat and Debian are free to incorporate Ubuntu's improvements to Gnome, and I am pretty certain Debian did. Anyway, if we have 5 distros providing raw code and one providing polish that makes it actually nice to use, which the others can incorporate back, I don't see the big problem. If you are opposed then maybe you are less the Free software guy than you want to make us think.
You are deliberately ignoring stuff, like the new completely free Ubuntu flavor, the fact that Canonical is employing many developers that can now work fulltime and whose work also benefits Debian, and that you haven't been able to argue how nonfunctional but free computers help anyone. Therefore discussing with you is no fun. That's sad because you have good points. Launchpad _is a problem. I don't think it will be terrible successful because it has a taste of handing over a project's infrastructure to Ubuntu. I don't however think that freeing it would make much of a difference. If there is any value to Launchpad, it is that there is only one. At the same time that's the biggest problem with it.
We were not talking about CnR. As far as nouveau goes, do they have Google where you live? I don't know why I am forced to do your homework for you, it seems to me you should actually support your claims with more than bold accusations (one of which I already proved wrong). Yes, it is currently just a pledge, but give it a bit of time will you? Shuttleworth:
We have not been forceful enough about our policy on software patents and other, similar threats to software freedom. As a result, we have joined FFII and other organisations that are fighting software patents (I am personally co-funding an EFF representative in Brussels to focus on this and other work related to software and content freedom). We will also shortly announce participation in another patent-related initiative aimed at preventing a hostile take-over of the free software space by those with entrenched software IP positions.
We will actively support Nouveau and other efforts to develop free software drivers that enable the requisite functionality. I am happy for folks working on these efforts to contact me directly or to follow the community channels in Ubuntu. Either way, we will provide financial and development support for those groups and will integrate their work as soon as it does the necessary hardware magic. Proprietary drivers are not the preferred solution and will be eliminated once the community delivers a free alternative.
We will work closely with the hardware vendors concerned, and part of that will be to continue to make the strong case in favour of free drivers.
In addition to all of this, we have restarted the effort to produce a flavour of Ubuntu that includes no proprietary drivers or firmware at all. In fact, this flavour will take an ultra-conservative approach to all forms of content on the.iso, whether that be artistic or code. More on that initiative later.
Q1: http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/faq_opensour ce.html
I'm sure he'll end up at a company where his talent's can be used to further Linux's position in the desktop marketplace.
Yeah, I know one
Look at what Novel has done with it and tell me what is so bad.
Trying to circumvent GPLv2?
Exactly, it seems the submitter did not even RTFA:(emphasis mine)
They found a hammer in this kid's house...a fucking HAMMER
Probably a H.A.M.M.E.R.. I can't help you if you can't see how this is going to end!
'Dell shops'
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http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/04
I am arguing that a controlled app repository with a unified installation/deinstallation and update method that actually works is preferably to Window's mess of hunting down applications all over the web, each with its own methods that may or may not work. Especially since a huge number of setup.exes are spyware and similar crap, so that a non-expert user has little chance to survive without being infected.
A good manager has good interpersonal skills and is usually gregarious. Unfortunately a psychopath often does a good job of imitating those characteristics
/. story about this recently.
There was a
Downloading random setup.exe files from random websites is the #1 reason for the botnet mess that Windows brought upon us.
It's a tie in the multimedia category despite the Ubuntu codecs having to be added after install.
Last time I checked, XP could not even play avi files using the DivX codecs (i.e., 90% of P2P) without hunting down a codec package. Media Player just said "can't find codec". Has this changed in Vista? Because In Ubuntu 7.04 it certainly is automatic.
As soon as you say "Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get (package)", you've lost.
Have you even used Ubuntu, or any Linux distro from the last few years? In Ubuntu I open the Applications menu and find a GUI tool to install and remove software that actually can install software as advertised (contrary to the Windows version which in fact can only reinstall or remove)
Add remove programs in Vista and the package manager Ubuntu work in simila ways
:)
Not even that. I mean, in Ubuntu I can install applications with it, in Windows I just can uninstall them. I think I find Ubuntu's solution much more useful then
Snopes has the story: http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/bananas.asp
What money did Da Vinci need to raise in order to create the Mona Lisa
Bad, BAD example. He was supported by a long string of aristocrats, and many of his works were commissioned. He maintained a whole workshop.
Was there ever a better description of Wikipedia?
"The free encyclopedia that anyone can edit."? Especially since Wikipedia certainly does not die.
If a foreign government (for exmaple the USA) conspired with criminals to overthrow my democratically elected government here in Canada and installed a puppet dictator fuck-nut like the Shah I wouldn't kidnap american diploamtic staff, I would shoot them.
Damn, missing mod points again. Thanks for a voice of reason.
I bet I know what it is, we didn't bomb, strafe and kill to get the hostages back, and that makes you mad. -- No, it made me feel humiliated, as did the rest of the country.
Behold, most of what's wrong with the US in just one sentence.
Q: At what point has/will MS overstepped its bounds?
Like I said, the lexus brand just started selling here.
Are you dense? I agreed with you so far, they were initially sold under the Toyota brand just in Japan, and always under the Lexus brand in the rest of the world.
As for the same car (with the same configuration) that sells for $60000 in the US selling for < $18,000 in Japan, how about some links?
I think this is a bit different. See, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_GS. As I said, I _know that they are the same manufacturer, but in this case, they were initially sold under the Toyota brand just in Japan, and always under the Lexus brand in the rest of the world (presumably because in rest of World, "Toyota" has a non-premium ring). While in the case of the NSX, it is sold as Honda everywhere except US.
And you are wrong of you think that the same car as a $60000 Lexus is sold for $18000 in Japan.
Lexus cars are produced by Toyota, but unlike the Acura/Honda, they are not just Toyotas with different logos and names.
You've claimed that the widespread use of Ubuntu will result in more Free software.
I haven't claimed anything of the sort, you might want to reread the thread. I have just rebutted your own erroneous claim that "Ubuntu is encouraging people to ignore the problem of video-driver support, to purchase broken crap from nvidia and to penalise Intel by not selecting their boards and integrated cards".
You are suddenly changing the topic to the amount of code Ubuntu has contributed. I agree that other distros so far have created more substantial code, but we will see how this develops in the future: Ubuntu is scarcely 3 years old, and you just cannot compare it to RedHat and Debian. Even in its short lifetime it has contributed "metric shit-loads" of something the others ignored: polish. RedHat and Debian are free to incorporate Ubuntu's improvements to Gnome, and I am pretty certain Debian did. Anyway, if we have 5 distros providing raw code and one providing polish that makes it actually nice to use, which the others can incorporate back, I don't see the big problem. If you are opposed then maybe you are less the Free software guy than you want to make us think.
You are deliberately ignoring stuff, like the new completely free Ubuntu flavor, the fact that Canonical is employing many developers that can now work fulltime and whose work also benefits Debian, and that you haven't been able to argue how nonfunctional but free computers help anyone. Therefore discussing with you is no fun. That's sad because you have good points. Launchpad _is a problem. I don't think it will be terrible successful because it has a taste of handing over a project's infrastructure to Ubuntu. I don't however think that freeing it would make much of a difference. If there is any value to Launchpad, it is that there is only one. At the same time that's the biggest problem with it.
:) To be fair, there are some issues surfacing on ubuntu-users, but compared with Edgy it is a smooth ride so far.
a lot of bugs in the beta I have on my home computer, they should not be in the final release (For example gdesklets on AMD64)
apt-cache policy gdesklets
gdesklets:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 0.35.3-4ubuntu2
Version table:
0.35.3-4ubuntu2 0
500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ feisty/universe Packages
The universe repository is not supported.