From the attitude of the OP troll I would guess he calls it "sodomy" if people of different skin color hug each other, or when people of the same sex do. (Remember the outcry 2 years ago about their theme photo, http://www.javipas.com/wp-content/ubuntu.JPG)
The thing is that Ubuntu is built around the latest and greatest bleeding edge bits and pieces, it's quite common for stable packages to be replaced with beta versions and for things to break horribly without warning. Maybe Ubuntu could start releasing a toned down distribution for use in environments where stability and predictable behaviour is more important.
You have no clue how the Ubuntu releases work, do you? What you proposing exists since 06/2006, it is called Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
If I understand correctly you don't touch the.conf to get ubuntu running, but it offers no tools to change whatever configuration it comes up with? So therefore unless you add a monitor or whatever you wouldn't need to modify the.conf?
Sorry, the part about autoconfig in my commment was not so much related to Ubuntu. I don't know how this will work out since AFAICT autoconfig is very new functionality in Xorg 7.2 and it is not yet used in Ubuntu (although 7.04 Feisty will include Xorg 7.2). I think the idea is that in the long run there is no xorg.conf at all, you just plug in your hardware and it works.
Yeah, I missed that he had a said he hadn't tried ubuntu. I just wanted to mention that Ubuntu does not have such a tool (which is weird). And whether or not you have to touch the conf to get Ubuntu running totally depends on what you want it to do. Dual monitor stuff (like the very common requirement to attach a video projector to a laptop) is a major hassle in Ubuntu. (I'm saying that as a very happy Ubuntu user)
Have you used linux in the last 5 years? Save slackware, every distro I have seen had a GUI app that did at least those things
You haven't seen Ubuntu then, which for some reason is still lacking such a thing. OTOH, the new Xorg starts to become so good in autoconfiguration that it is able to run without an xorg.conf
Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not covered by this License; they are outside its scope. The act of running the Program is not restricted...
But from a developer's perspective, the GPL takes away the right to distribute closed-source programs if you, in any way, use an GPL'd product.
Stop the obvious trolling. For the record:
If you use a GPL'd product, it does not influence your rights to distribute your closed-source program in any way. Or do you think IBM cannot distribute AIX because some web guy they employ edited a photo in the Gimp?
Even if you include GPL'ed code in your proprietary software and distribute the result, no court will take away your distribution rights immediately, unless the vast majority of your code is actually infringing. The usual course of action is to remove the infringing parts, or to negotiate an license with the owner of the GPL'ed code
Just read up on the cases where companies were found infringing.
The GPL is not a consumer product license. In order to use the software you don't even have to agree to the GPL. Only if you distribute are you bound by its terms, and software distribution is a complicated topic. Even so, when you compare it to proprietary EULAs, the GPL is entirely readable in its main parts. Furthermore, the GPL is not written in caps as most EULAs are (IMHO this obvious attempt at obfuscation alone should make EULAs unenforceable).
3. I should also say that my upgrade from breezy to edgy was less than ideal
Was that directly from Breezy to Edgy? If so, you should have read the upgrade instructions which explained that this is not supported and likely to break (you had to do Breezy -> Dapper -> Edgy). That said, even Dapper -> Edgy upgrades could get messy.
Depends very much on how it is phrased. What I said is a valid rebuttal to the typical/. fanboyism of "Nintendo makes a profit on every console sold", which is often used in a context of "they will make a profit regardless of how many they sell". Well they don't for the reason alone that i stated. They need to sell a certain amount of consoles to even break even.
And then there is the additional question of whether the manufacturing + overhead cost of each sold console is below their sales price, and this was answered in at least one interview with Miyamoto I have read, but am too lazy to google now. As stated, they take a loss per console at certain points in the lifecycle.
I also read it about the Wii. Yeah, he said that there are phases were they sell below hardware cost (after launch, after price drop), but they make it up overall. Nevertheless, if you factor in R&D, it is even more obvious to state, without qualification, that "every piece is sold at a profit".
Sorry, I don't have the bookmarked the links, and a quick googling didn't turn them up. I know that this is always said, but it is just a persistent/. meme that is very obviously wrong. I don't think you even need a link to know, just think about it: they have x million yen development cost, and then they sell the first few thousand consoles on launch day for $250 each. Can every one of these sold in the very beginning make a profit? I don't think so.
Not true. There are numerous interviews with Miyamoto out there where he says that they of course do not make a profit on every console sold at every point of the whole life cycle, but that overall they do.
The *nix model also has a far way to go for Joe Sixpack users too. Want to install software? Need root? How many people can remember root passwords etc?
So where have you been these last few years? Neither OSX nor Ubuntu ever ask for a root password.
Still, the hardest part of using *nix for Joe Sixpack is managing permissions of devices etc. Want to use a serial port? Got to set up permissions.
Huh? I haven't used a serial port in years, but IIRC on SuSE 5.2 it was enough to add the user to the "modem" or "dialup" group. I am pretty sure much more fancy ways are available today.
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From the attitude of the OP troll I would guess he calls it "sodomy" if people of different skin color hug each other, or when people of the same sex do. (Remember the outcry 2 years ago about their theme photo, http://www.javipas.com/wp-content/ubuntu.JPG)
The thing is that Ubuntu is built around the latest and greatest bleeding edge bits and pieces, it's quite common for stable packages to be replaced with beta versions and for things to break horribly without warning. Maybe Ubuntu could start releasing a toned down distribution for use in environments where stability and predictable behaviour is more important.
You have no clue how the Ubuntu releases work, do you? What you proposing exists since 06/2006, it is called Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
If I understand correctly you don't touch the .conf to get ubuntu running, but it offers no tools to change whatever configuration it comes up with? So therefore unless you add a monitor or whatever you wouldn't need to modify the .conf?
A utoconfiguration
Sorry, the part about autoconfig in my commment was not so much related to Ubuntu. I don't know how this will work out since AFAICT autoconfig is very new functionality in Xorg 7.2 and it is not yet used in Ubuntu (although 7.04 Feisty will include Xorg 7.2). I think the idea is that in the long run there is no xorg.conf at all, you just plug in your hardware and it works.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BOFs/Xorg
Yeah, I missed that he had a said he hadn't tried ubuntu. I just wanted to mention that Ubuntu does not have such a tool (which is weird). And whether or not you have to touch the conf to get Ubuntu running totally depends on what you want it to do. Dual monitor stuff (like the very common requirement to attach a video projector to a laptop) is a major hassle in Ubuntu. (I'm saying that as a very happy Ubuntu user)
Same thing here, Do you have Blackberrys too? Makes you tear your hair out
Have you used linux in the last 5 years? Save slackware, every distro I have seen had a GUI app that did at least those things
You haven't seen Ubuntu then, which for some reason is still lacking such a thing. OTOH, the new Xorg starts to become so good in autoconfiguration that it is able to run without an xorg.conf
How does it emphasize anything if the whole fucking text is in caps?
Stop the obvious trolling. For the record:
- If you use a GPL'd product, it does not influence your rights to distribute your closed-source program in any way. Or do you think IBM cannot distribute AIX because some web guy they employ edited a photo in the Gimp?
- Even if you include GPL'ed code in your proprietary software and distribute the result, no court will take away your distribution rights immediately, unless the vast majority of your code is actually infringing. The usual course of action is to remove the infringing parts, or to negotiate an license with the owner of the GPL'ed code
Just read up on the cases where companies were found infringing.AC said: "Have you ever tried to read the GPL?"
The GPL is not a consumer product license. In order to use the software you don't even have to agree to the GPL. Only if you distribute are you bound by its terms, and software distribution is a complicated topic.
Even so, when you compare it to proprietary EULAs, the GPL is entirely readable in its main parts. Furthermore, the GPL is not written in caps as most EULAs are (IMHO this obvious attempt at obfuscation alone should make EULAs unenforceable).
Food for thought.
Don't use alpha versions if you are not prepared to deal with heavy breakage?
3. I should also say that my upgrade from breezy to edgy was less than ideal
Was that directly from Breezy to Edgy? If so, you should have read the upgrade instructions which explained that this is not supported and likely to break (you had to do Breezy -> Dapper -> Edgy).
That said, even Dapper -> Edgy upgrades could get messy.
Depends very much on how it is phrased. What I said is a valid rebuttal to the typical /. fanboyism of "Nintendo makes a profit on every console sold", which is often used in a context of "they will make a profit regardless of how many they sell". Well they don't for the reason alone that i stated. They need to sell a certain amount of consoles to even break even.
And then there is the additional question of whether the manufacturing + overhead cost of each sold console is below their sales price, and this was answered in at least one interview with Miyamoto I have read, but am too lazy to google now. As stated, they take a loss per console at certain points in the lifecycle.
I also read it about the Wii. Yeah, he said that there are phases were they sell below hardware cost (after launch, after price drop), but they make it up overall. Nevertheless, if you factor in R&D, it is even more obvious to state, without qualification, that "every piece is sold at a profit".
Sorry, I don't have the bookmarked the links, and a quick googling didn't turn them up. I know that this is always said, but it is just a persistent /. meme that is very obviously wrong. I don't think you even need a link to know, just think about it: they have x million yen development cost, and then they sell the first few thousand consoles on launch day for $250 each. Can every one of these sold in the very beginning make a profit? I don't think so.
selling all of their hardware at a profit
Not true. There are numerous interviews with Miyamoto out there where he says that they of course do not make a profit on every console sold at every point of the whole life cycle, but that overall they do.
We aren't. Some "journalist" is trying to drum up page hits.
You said you had fixed bugs that you didn't tell upstream about.
FSF have no right to impose hardware restrictions on a manufacturer
Yeah, and they don't. They just say "you cannot use my code for that".
Hell, the content is under a creative commons license
GFDL, actually
Ok, got it. I guess we will see if this works.
The *nix model also has a far way to go for Joe Sixpack users too. Want to install software? Need root? How many people can remember root passwords etc?
So where have you been these last few years? Neither OSX nor Ubuntu ever ask for a root password.
Still, the hardest part of using *nix for Joe Sixpack is managing permissions of devices etc. Want to use a serial port? Got to set up permissions.
Huh? I haven't used a serial port in years, but IIRC on SuSE 5.2 it was enough to add the user to the "modem" or "dialup" group. I am pretty sure much more fancy ways are available today.
Except I'm not having to enter a password, just click a box.
I still don't understand where the supposed security gain is. Since when is malware unable to click ok itself?
What we really need is for companies to provide Linux drivers on their own, and delivered with their hardware
No we don't. It's much simpler for users if the drivers are in the kernel. I don't need Windows driver hell recreated in Linux.
I've wondered for years why most of them don't do that.
The kernel ABI is not stable, so the drivers (or at least some glue layer) would need to be recompiled
You are right, I should have said that "started from 2003's kernel".