I was waiting for a 'Road Warrior' to return (I consult on Friday afternoons only) so I could update his laptop
Unfortunately for you, the Toe-Cutter does his thing 7 days a week. Your client may not return.
Ha! I used to actually be employed by him. Merely not updating a laptop to protect against a worm with a payload of a DDOS against windowsupdate is NOTHING compared to what I did when I was on payroll.
And I'm not talking 'making the computers work', I mean replying to an email (discussing system upgrades/issues) not addressed to me, and sending it to all the executives.
But when you're right, you're right. Hence I get some extra hours Friday afternoons.
Think about this scenario: a perfectly competent administrator has a properly configured firewall which blocks the problem. The "road warrior" brings his laptop from from 3 weeks on the road and had used a bunch of hotel access points where he got the worm. He connects it to his docking station in the office effectively bringing the problem behind the firewall.
Yeppers. I was waiting for a 'Road Warrior' to return (I consult on Friday afternoons only) so I could update his laptop. Upon seeing the news this morning, I sent him an email with instructions (crossing fingers!) on how to use Windows Update.
He called me about his system strangely rebooting before he even read my email.:(
The unique identification code is provided to the auction participant with the high bid to uniquely identify the item.
No kidding.. I was at a Super Auction in May, and after following the EXACT same procedure I was givin a unique identification code to identify the item(s) I bought.
I just don't see the difference between a clipboad listing items for sale, and a web page.
well. here are two of the solutions. one, we had a "PC" lab for three years wothout any file server, although we were promised one. i suggested as a temporary solution setting up a samba server, since we a) already had the hardware, and b) it was free. i can't tell you how much student work was lost being saved locally. reasonable?
Sounds decent. ALTHOUGH, I have to admit.. 'temporary' solutions are rare;) They seem to turn into permanant solutions once they work adequately. Then what do you do about backups, restores, adding/deleting users. Managing home directory sizes, Integrating email (single sign-on).
A whole bunch of crap that Linux can mostly do, but is a learning curve even for me (I just tar/ftp stuff to my Netware box for backup).
Does that curve, some missing functionality (I know Linux can't backup open files), and a free OS outweigh the cost of user licenses?
two. we have tons, like over 125 old pentium 120-166's with 32 mb ram. real creamers, huh. they sit, totally unused. now, some were trying to be used, but when you couple running windows, zenworks, norton, novell client, et al., then try to run even IE, well, it chokes. so i proposed an ltsp type solution. we could do two labs for $3000-4000. (the server cost alone. we had the boxen, the cables, etc.) reasonable?
Sounds like a plan.. but the above still applies. I actually would like to do an LTSP+Mosix network.. but I also can't imagine losing my Netware box, the integration for EASILY logging into a Netware box from Linux isn't there yet. (See my previous posts in the last Novell article).
So while you have some good ideas, and I agree with your last plan, you have to look long term. IMHO, a good example is PBX's. I used to run a Fujitsu 9600. This thing is the Unix of PBX's. I can make it do just about anything you want, but it comes at a price. A high price.
Where I work now, we have a Norstar POS. It's 'easy to use', and costs less. It does what we need NOW. But, I can't do reasonalby simple things like block incoming calls from certain phone numbers. Or see how many T1 channels are used by whom at any given time.
Your solutions solve the immediate problem, but you need to consider what requests the users will have in the future. Also, how easy is it to wipe out or add a whole slew of students at the end and beginning of the school year in Linux? I think you'd have to do Samba+LDAP.. How many people can manage that kind of directory scheme -or even recreate it? If you die, the district needs to be able to replace you fairly easily.
I like the LTSP solution... Your problem: creating local users based on NDS users. Check out PAM-LDAP, and grab one of those extra systems. Don't bog it down with crap, just get LTSP+OpenMosix working. You may have to do it afterhours, but do it so it will work WITH your existing network. Afterall, you're only adding workstations. You have to show that it works, AND you will have to do some funkiness to automount Netware home directories and the like..
At that point, you have the flexibility to compare the Netware/Linux feature set (that you use), and decide if you want to move your file/print to Linux also.
i have been trying to get my school district to look at linux for a variety of solutions. i get the same anti-linux crap. my district is a novell shop, from netware to gropwise, etc. i feel justified. almosty makes me want to send the idiots the articles. why the hell not. i teach history. they can't fsck with me.
Err. Linux and Netware are two completely different beasts:
User Management in linux is abysmal compared to NDS.
Hell, there are no inherited rights/filters on ext3 (or multiple ownerships)
There is no salvage in Linux (yes idiot users will delete files they want to keep)
There are no workstation tools for admin'ing linux boxes. (like - nwadmin, filer, ndir, rights)
I run both Netware and Linux, and there's a place for both. My only hope is that the tools, and rights flexibility are kept intact with a Linux kernel on the backend.
Which of those offences merits a custodial sentence, in your opinion?
Or do you think that people can either:
a) have free speech
b) protest peacefully
but if they choose to exercise both they should be arrested?
Of course not. Which of those offences should an officer overlook, in your opinion?
Or do you think that people can either:
a) promote methods of overthrowing the government
b) participate in a demonstration against government policy in which hundreds are arrested
I get it. If they choose to do both, they're completely harmless.
prosecution and fbi recommend 4 months in prison, so the judge sentences him to a year.
Err:
"Austin was arrested with other protesters at the World Economic Forum in New York in February 2002 "
How much time had he already served? You think they're just going to say, "Ok, you served enough time, you can go home now."?!?
*sigh*
Re:This is bullshit Huh? RTFA
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Linking Dangerously
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This is the problem with censorship.
WTF are you talking about? Oh yeah, you didn't RTFA.
I'll summarize:
Not only did he have an anarchist's web site that linked to bomb making sites, AND he advocated overthrowing the goverment, but, and here's the kicker...
"Austin was arrested with other protesters at the World Economic Forum in New York in February 2002 on charges of disorderly conduct and unlawful assembly. "
He wasn't just preaching.. he was practicing what he preached. Therefore, he posed a REAL threat, not a virtual one.
NDS can be exposed with LDAP. There is a PAM LDAP module.. What wouldnt work here? Im actualy asking, as I might have to do the same thing in the future.
Oh, I'm not saying that wouldn't work. (I had a web-app that used LDAP from NDS for auth) But I want MORE than just a user/pass auth.
I want home directories mounted
I want local users autocreated
I want contextless login
That's what I can think of off the top of my head. IMHO, doing a 'PERFECT' PAM module leads to NDS integration. For a good example of NDS integration, look at Pegasus Mail. Pegasus Mail can be installed once on a server, and using NDS API calls, can tell _who_ started it, and use the proper home directory for email.
I want Linux applications (Evolution) to do that.;) I want the desktop PC to be user-agnostic. Pegasus Mail provides that. The full Zen package provides that. I want that for Linux. (Actually, I want to provide that with LTSP - but application integration would make it even easier)
If you want to see what that French PAM module can do, go here You might have to check Google Cache - it appears to be down right now.
Back in my senior year of high school, we had some sort of tracking system that was based primarily on attendance. It flagged me as a student that was going to fail out, never mind my 3.9 GPA and my acceptance to Stanford based upon the entrance exams (untimately did not go to Stanford because I could not afford the $25k/year). I had a meeting with our vice principal telling me I was in serious trouble with my attendance. What a joke.
Hmm.. we didn't have a tracking system, and I was never talked to by the counselor or the principal. Never mind I had a 1.9 GPA, and wasn't even accepted to UWisc-Oshkosh. I ended up only going to UW-Waukesha for 2 months.
Of course, my counselor also 'converted' my credits from my previous HS wrong. I ended up being required to take gym through my senior year. What a joke;)
It's all fucked up. At least they're trying to do SOMETHING.
Speaking of Red Hat -- SCO released some of their legal threats which I found to be entertaining. Excerpts are in this story...
What Iwould like to know, is how do we know that the code SCO is guarding, wasn't taken from Linux in the first place?
SCO is guarding their code, because they say it's theirs, but with Linux code is already out in the open. So how do we know WHEN SCO created their code?
but that they are not out to compete with Microsoft
so, will they install Ximian on XP?
Well, I work for a small company running Netware 5.1 and Win98 desktops. I'm looking into doing an LTSP+Mosix type setup, because we only use about 4 applications on older PII hardware.
I'd hate to give up my Netware box, file permissions alone (Inherited rights/filters) are enough to keep me on it. Getting a seemless login (legally - I have an awesome NDS Pam module from France;) from a Linux box would be awesome.
So, no. In my case, they're not competing with MS, because MS isn't being considered.
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My biggest problem with Novell is that to get any of the great benefits that Netware provides, I have to buy a slew of stuff -- like ZenWorks and BorderWare. To get a complete network OS, I have to either shell out, or make some kludges to get things to work together, using olde batch files, for example.
Huh? Netware 6.5 comes with
'clustering' (Failover of ANYTHING, including file serving)
a Zenworks 'starter pack' (I use the starter that comes with NW 5.1, and haven't needed more than that)
DirXML starter pack (to integrate with that nasty AD schema)
NAMP (Netware,Apache,MySQL,PHP/Perl)
Virtual Office
SSH
Native File Access (Appears as Netware/Unix/Windows server)
In buying Ximian, I hope Novell will be able to offer SMEs a workable, useful, solution that gives everyting a NOS should be capable of for the same price (rather than just the core) so desktop management (over Windows, Linux and Mac), e-mail, and firewalling would all come together at a Microsoft-beating price.
IMHO, firewalling should NOT be done on a Windows box. If you want EXCELLENT fine grain control over VPN's and Internet access rights, get BorderManager. Pegasus Mail and Mercury/32 have long been an excellent, and FREE, alternative NDS-based email solution for Netware.
I think you should read this Network Computing article for a good overview.
I think what they are trying to say is:
'We can't offord for people to actually use the bandwidth we sold them, you must get rid of bandwidth clogging mp3s and movies so we can survive selling 1mbit connectivity, even though we can't support all of our users actually using that 1mbit'
ok thats kinda drawn out, but I think thats kinda what they are saying.
Interesting thought.. I took it more along the lines of:
"Sure, we know we can't really control every detail of what goes over our lines, but it a lot of press makes us look like Pirates Cove. Let's cover our butts, and put the onus on the government to mandate a system that will make us look good without costing us a dime. The other industries can worry about implementing it."
And at the sidelines, Ziff Davis acted like cheerleaders at a football game, chanting "rah rah! Microsoft! Rah rah rah!"
My favorite quote, "We at Ziff-Davis don't influence the reader, we merely report on what our readers want."-Ed Bott, in response to a reader complaint that ZD was giving Windows OS/Software too much press. He's the former editor of Windows^G^G^G^G^G^G PC Computing.
How many 'Never Reboot again!' ZD magazine covers do you have?
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HA! So you can't live forever if you have a heart problem or have kids?
Ha! I used to actually be employed by him. Merely not updating a laptop to protect against a worm with a payload of a DDOS against windowsupdate is NOTHING compared to what I did when I was on payroll.
And I'm not talking 'making the computers work', I mean replying to an email (discussing system upgrades/issues) not addressed to me, and sending it to all the executives.
But when you're right, you're right. Hence I get some extra hours Friday afternoons.
Yes, I walk funny.
Yeppers. I was waiting for a 'Road Warrior' to return (I consult on Friday afternoons only) so I could update his laptop. Upon seeing the news this morning, I sent him an email with instructions (crossing fingers!) on how to use Windows Update.
He called me about his system strangely rebooting before he even read my email. :(
No kidding.. I was at a Super Auction in May, and after following the EXACT same procedure I was givin a unique identification code to identify the item(s) I bought.
I just don't see the difference between a clipboad listing items for sale, and a web page.
Other than that, the processes are identical.
Sounds decent. ALTHOUGH, I have to admit.. 'temporary' solutions are rare ;) They seem to turn into permanant solutions once they work adequately. Then what do you do about backups, restores, adding/deleting users. Managing home directory sizes, Integrating email (single sign-on).
A whole bunch of crap that Linux can mostly do, but is a learning curve even for me (I just tar/ftp stuff to my Netware box for backup).
Does that curve, some missing functionality (I know Linux can't backup open files), and a free OS outweigh the cost of user licenses?
two. we have tons, like over 125 old pentium 120-166's with 32 mb ram. real creamers, huh. they sit, totally unused. now, some were trying to be used, but when you couple running windows, zenworks, norton, novell client, et al., then try to run even IE, well, it chokes. so i proposed an ltsp type solution. we could do two labs for $3000-4000. (the server cost alone. we had the boxen, the cables, etc.) reasonable?
Sounds like a plan.. but the above still applies. I actually would like to do an LTSP+Mosix network.. but I also can't imagine losing my Netware box, the integration for EASILY logging into a Netware box from Linux isn't there yet. (See my previous posts in the last Novell article).
So while you have some good ideas, and I agree with your last plan, you have to look long term. IMHO, a good example is PBX's. I used to run a Fujitsu 9600. This thing is the Unix of PBX's. I can make it do just about anything you want, but it comes at a price. A high price.
Where I work now, we have a Norstar POS. It's 'easy to use', and costs less. It does what we need NOW. But, I can't do reasonalby simple things like block incoming calls from certain phone numbers. Or see how many T1 channels are used by whom at any given time.
Your solutions solve the immediate problem, but you need to consider what requests the users will have in the future. Also, how easy is it to wipe out or add a whole slew of students at the end and beginning of the school year in Linux?
I think you'd have to do Samba+LDAP.. How many people can manage that kind of directory scheme -or even recreate it? If you die, the district needs to be able to replace you fairly easily.
I like the LTSP solution... Your problem: creating local users based on NDS users. Check out PAM-LDAP, and grab one of those extra systems. Don't bog it down with crap, just get LTSP+OpenMosix working. You may have to do it afterhours, but do it so it will work WITH your existing network. Afterall, you're only adding workstations. You have to show that it works, AND you will have to do some funkiness to automount Netware home directories and the like..
At that point, you have the flexibility to compare the Netware/Linux feature set (that you use), and decide if you want to move your file/print to Linux also.
Err. Linux and Netware are two completely different beasts:
User Management in linux is abysmal compared to NDS.
Hell, there are no inherited rights/filters on ext3 (or multiple ownerships)
There is no salvage in Linux (yes idiot users will delete files they want to keep)
There are no workstation tools for admin'ing linux boxes. (like - nwadmin, filer, ndir, rights)
I run both Netware and Linux, and there's a place for both. My only hope is that the tools, and rights flexibility are kept intact with a Linux kernel on the backend.
Good thing I ordered mine in June!
Heh. Setec Astronomy..
Or do you think that people can either:
a) have free speech
b) protest peacefully
but if they choose to exercise both they should be arrested?
Of course not. Which of those offences should an officer overlook, in your opinion?
Or do you think that people can either:
a) promote methods of overthrowing the government
b) participate in a demonstration against government policy in which hundreds are arrested
I get it. If they choose to do both, they're completely harmless.
He got 4 months. Either he already served 8 month being a pain in the ass, or the rest is probation.
Do you believe that the US WEF protesters were trying to commit sedition?
I have no idea. Do you believe abortion protestors are there to kill the doctors?
Everybody has their own agenda. If he was 'REALLY BAD' I'm sure he would have gotten more time.
Err:
"Austin was arrested with other protesters at the World Economic Forum in New York in February 2002 "
How much time had he already served?
You think they're just going to say, "Ok, you served enough time, you can go home now."?!?
*sigh*
WTF are you talking about? Oh yeah, you didn't RTFA. I'll summarize:
Not only did he have an anarchist's web site that linked to bomb making sites, AND he advocated overthrowing the goverment, but, and here's the kicker...
"Austin was arrested with other protesters at the World Economic Forum in New York in February 2002 on charges of disorderly conduct and unlawful assembly. "
He wasn't just preaching.. he was practicing what he preached. Therefore, he posed a REAL threat, not a virtual one.
Oh, I'm not saying that wouldn't work. (I had a web-app that used LDAP from NDS for auth) But I want MORE than just a user/pass auth.
- I want home directories mounted
- I want local users autocreated
- I want contextless login
That's what I can think of off the top of my head. IMHO, doing a 'PERFECT' PAM module leads to NDS integration. For a good example of NDS integration, look at Pegasus Mail. Pegasus Mail can be installed once on a server, and using NDS API calls, can tell _who_ started it, and use the proper home directory for email.I want Linux applications (Evolution) to do that. ;) I want the desktop PC to be user-agnostic. Pegasus Mail provides that. The full Zen package provides that. I want that for Linux. (Actually, I want to provide that with LTSP - but application integration would make it even easier)
If you want to see what that French PAM module can do, go here You might have to check Google Cache - it appears to be down right now.
Hmm.. we didn't have a tracking system, and I was never talked to by the counselor or the principal. Never mind I had a 1.9 GPA, and wasn't even accepted to UWisc-Oshkosh. I ended up only going to UW-Waukesha for 2 months.
Of course, my counselor also 'converted' my credits from my previous HS wrong. I ended up being required to take gym through my senior year. What a joke ;)
It's all fucked up. At least they're trying to do SOMETHING.
What Iwould like to know, is how do we know that the code SCO is guarding, wasn't taken from Linux in the first place?
SCO is guarding their code, because they say it's theirs, but with Linux code is already out in the open. So how do we know WHEN SCO created their code?
Well, I work for a small company running Netware 5.1 and Win98 desktops. I'm looking into doing an LTSP+Mosix type setup, because we only use about 4 applications on older PII hardware.
I'd hate to give up my Netware box, file permissions alone (Inherited rights/filters) are enough to keep me on it. Getting a seemless login (legally - I have an awesome NDS Pam module from France ;) from a Linux box would be awesome.
So, no. In my case, they're not competing with MS, because MS isn't being considered.
Huh? Netware 6.5 comes with
- 'clustering' (Failover of ANYTHING, including file serving)
- a Zenworks 'starter pack' (I use the starter that comes with NW 5.1, and haven't needed more than that)
- DirXML starter pack (to integrate with that nasty AD schema)
- NAMP (Netware,Apache,MySQL,PHP/Perl)
- Virtual Office
- SSH
- Native File Access (Appears as Netware/Unix/Windows server)
In buying Ximian, I hope Novell will be able to offer SMEs a workable, useful, solution that gives everyting a NOS should be capable of for the same price (rather than just the core) so desktop management (over Windows, Linux and Mac), e-mail, and firewalling would all come together at a Microsoft-beating price.IMHO, firewalling should NOT be done on a Windows box. If you want EXCELLENT fine grain control over VPN's and Internet access rights, get BorderManager. Pegasus Mail and Mercury/32 have long been an excellent, and FREE, alternative NDS-based email solution for Netware. I think you should read this Network Computing article for a good overview.
Seems odd that you can't say "I want to record 'Metallica-And Justice for All-One', and record it off the radio (Analog or digital)..
Wait.. I better patent that ;)
More than once, when looking for a specific dll, I've found a whole software install in a directory on somebodys network.
Hmm.. I'm confused. How do we feel about cops writing an essay about what they did last weekend, instead of walking the beat?
ok thats kinda drawn out, but I think thats kinda what they are saying.
Interesting thought.. I took it more along the lines of:
"Sure, we know we can't really control every detail of what goes over our lines, but it a lot of press makes us look like Pirates Cove. Let's cover our butts, and put the onus on the government to mandate a system that will make us look good without costing us a dime. The other industries can worry about implementing it."
IMHO, it's the perfect plan.
Didn't anyone tell them porn and piracy are the main reasons for broadband?
At least they left the good stuff ;)
Yeah yeah yeah ;) As I did it I thought it might be the beep. (Had a 'boss' once who replaced win.com with win.bat filled with ^g's on my pc ;)
But hey, this is Slashdot. We can't leave ALL the mistakes to the editors ;)
My favorite quote, "We at Ziff-Davis don't influence the reader, we merely report on what our readers want."-Ed Bott, in response to a reader complaint that ZD was giving Windows OS/Software too much press. He's the former editor of Windows^G^G^G^G^G^G PC Computing.
How many 'Never Reboot again!' ZD magazine covers do you have?