The whole *point* of identifying browsers at all is to allow the server to serve optimized pages for different browsers.
If you so strongly want to believe this nonsense, please post a reference to either a standard or recommendation that states that User-Agent is a mandatory HTTP parameter. You know as well as I do that User-Agent strings are optional, and relying on them to determine presentation is so typically short-sighted that its now laughable.
IMHO, it's a pain in the butt that the 'standards' themselves aren't complete. You don't run into it making your home page, but having just re-created the company website, I can tell you it's a pain in the butt.
Pixels are not the same size between browsers.
does the # of pixels from the left include the border of the main window?
That's just two examples of MINOR issues that can snowball on you. I have a sHTML footer that's appended after everything else is written. It worked fine, until I started with the 'store listing'. Since the pixels are all different, sometimes the footer is written OVER a store in IE, but not Mozilla, or vice-versa.
I also have an 'About us' page where text is 'wrapped' around a graphic. I have to have seperate style sheets for IE and Mozilla because of spacing issues between one or the other.
www.valeoinc.com if you're interested (I welcome suggetions, I'm far from an expert.)
PITA. Yet both are technically 'compliant' - some standards just aren't exact enough.
AFAIK this is the correct number of RPM's for GCC or to get a functional copy of gcc on a machine.... why does it take so many rpm's?
Probably because not every packages needs all of GCC, so 'GCC' is split up into independant packages.
I am no programmer but i guess i would classify myself as a power user (not even sysadmin). Why does everythign have to be so damn complicated in Linux?
That's kinda general. I'm sure in Debian, all you would need is apt-get gcc, in Mandrake you can select 'gcc' to install.
He was working from a stripped down version of Mandrake, IIRC, tailored to the X-box.
I just moved my company firewall to MNF (Mandrake's Multi-Network Firewall), and installed qmail, qmail-scanner, and SpamAssassin on it. It took about that many packages to get GCC on it. But the firewall distro wasn't designed for installing packages, so all I had to start with was rpm.
I'm sure you'd have the same types of issues trying to get your WinCE machine to do some of the things that your WinXP box on your desk does. Sure, they're both Windows, but I doubt you'd complain that Windows was difficult. You'd just say, 'Well, it IS WinCE'.
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I have a walmart pc that runs RH8 and it runs my website quite well.
I have a customer that's running his mail server off one of those. You can't beat $200 for a low traffic machine.
Yeah, I was going to post the same thing. Only read Carmack in the morning, that way you have the rest of the day to bring your ego back up to level 5;)
So, in short, no. I don't see where your complaint is coming from. You should have been able to change it in 5 minutes, even if you hunt and peck x-c-o-n-f-i-g-u-r-a-t-o-r.
That's what it comes down to, but you're making the assumption that the PC at hand will 'just work' better with Windows than any other os.
You've been brainwashed. Windows doesn't always 'just work', unless the PC came with the OS pre-loaded. Wait a second, the PC's that come with Linux preinstalled 'just work' also! Who'd have thought!
It has nothing to do with the OS, but how well you hardware matches up with the drivers included in whatever OS you have in your hand at the moment.
Yes, users shouldn't have to know anything about the OS, just their applications. I think when you say 'it just works', you mean those users already know how to use familiar applicatons, and a different version is too much for them.
That fact not only goes for using KWord on Linux, but it also applied to using OpenOffice or 123 on Windows.
Hardware support is NOT the issue, and is a cop out excuse for so-called System Analysts who can't support their users. I remember one 'Systems Analyst' I worked with who was convinced changing mail server settings via a web page was SO much better than editing a sendmail.cf file. "See if I want to relay, I just fire up a web browser, goto http://that.system:4439, enter my password, click admin, then put the relay host in the field, and click 'restart'"
I said, "Or you could log into the machine, and run pico on/etc/sendmail.cf, change the line that says 'Relay', and kill -HUP the process". There is no difference, you still have to know what you're doing. You just THINK editing data is easier through a web browser (or a registry editor?), because you've been brainwashed.
No, end users shouldn't be doing that, they should be buying pre-built systems where the OEM has taken care of all the configuring. If they want to muck around in there, THEN they
need to know what they're doing (or pay someone who does - like a mechanic).
I don't know how the hell you got modded +5, you made changes to your default configuration, and then bitched that it didn't work. Then you bitch that nobody can help you - and you're a 'Systems Analyst'? Apparently, it's never occurred to you that NOBODY may have had the exact combination of hardware and software that you had. I PERSONALLY have given HP solutions because I've used hardware and software that they haven't tested, yet you come along and think that some guy 'on the internet' MUST have the answer without you doing a lick of work yourself? You must call OEMs, and never touch the machine again until they call you back, because they MUST know what you've done to the machine. You really think that everybody has gotten every possible combination of hardware and software to work, and you're going to get free support, just because you tried Linux?
FYI, as for credibility, I USED to be a Systems Analyst, then a 'Systems Analyst II', and now I'm a Manager. You won't move up if you can't research problems. I like: Secondly, MS provides you with a UI to install, configure, and troubleshoot video card problems. If KDE or Gnome has something like that, I've yet to find it. Strike 2 against Linux.
Followed up by: You Linux Zealots think the user has to know more about their computer than they should to make it work. It's your attitude that it's not called for.
So are users supposed to solve their own problems or not? Diags are not for end users. You're merely complaining that the Diag APPLICATION on Linux isn't the same as it is on Windows. boo hoo. Learn it, or don't try and fix it, but don't complain that you can't fix a problem because the tools are different. Oh no! I can't fix an NVidia problem, because the Control Panel interface isn't the same as ATI's!
you're a locksmith (in most states). This is a fully legal option, metal file and blanks are not illegal anywhere.
Yeah, but there are plenty of alternatives. The strip of metal from a wooden ruler works great. I used to use that when my wife locked me out of our apartment (No, not fighting, I just never rememebered my key.)
Also, if you do phone stuff, you know where you can get a yellow 'pick' with a metal end. If you straighten that out, it's pretty decent too.
This technique is only marginally safer (less detectable) than an attack with lockpicking tools
And then he said:
"Burglars are interested in committing burglary, not in publishing results or warning people."
How many people are really worried about this risk? Hell, the last place I was at, they installed a window in a PUBLIC hallway so they could show off the computer room.
Of course, that window was secured with imbedded chicken wire....
They are shooting themselves in the foot if they don't supply a codec for free.
And according to the news release, that apparently nobody read, you can stream Real and MP3 for free, non-commerically.
"Helix DNA Server streams MP3, RealAudio® and RealVideo®. RealNetworks intends to add support for MPEG-4 after the MPEG-4 systems license terms have been released by the MPEG-4 licensing body, MPEG LA. Developers can create extensions for other media types such as Windows Media and QuickTime, or they can license these extensions from RealNetworks through the Helix Community. "
I think the crunch test will come when Debian assesses the Helix server for eligibility. Until then, I'm treating this cautiously based on experience with Real. Without free codecs, this is useless anyway so it'll be interesting to see to what extent they've embraced Ogg Vorbis and the other technologies from Xiph.
Err.. Insightful? I thought the point of OpenSource was sharing. Now you've got the source for a potentially great streaming media server, and you're bitching about not having the codecs?
I suppose you'd rather re-write the whole server, AND the codecs yourself instead of just the codecs.
No, it's not 100% free, but if you're looking for 100% free streaming server there are many already out there.
If this was Jack Mioff releasing this (half-done) on Sourceforge, you would be hearlding this as another step forward for OpenSource. I guess because it's from Real, they should be able to give you the whole thing for free, right? Wine changed to GPL because they didn't want companies profitting from their code, and not giving anything back. Why do you think a company would be any different? Please, be thankful you now have another choice, and if you want a codec, code it yourself.
It's not that bad. We have model TNs that we just copy to make new phones. Takes longer to punch the TNs to the destination that it does in the switch. Adding additional lines to an existing TN is trivial, KEY XX SC{R|N} 1234.
Hmm, I don't think that's what I mean. If I want extension 5000 to ring at 3 stations, and those three stations already have extensionos, I waste one port, AND it's a paind to setup (I just gave up, and had the vendor do it - and it took him an hour to do it) I don't understand that. On my favorite Fujitsu, on the console, I just type 'ADD MLPFB', up comes a screen where I can insert an extension in a box that represents a button on the phone. It shouldn't take an hour to do that..
What drives me nuts about it isn't the complexity, its that you define a phone more so than a *number*. I'd like a number to have a set of HUNT and FDN and other behaviors that are unique to the number regardless of the TN they appear on. Right now the MARP TN controls that behavior, which is a huge nuisance if you have a number that needs to appear on a phone with other numbers but needs unique HUNT/FDN behavior. You basically need to build a different TN, which means you need to either place an additional phone or find a place for all those "extra" phones.
Yep, THAT's what I'm talking about. ARS and stuff should be done based on the number itself... I still don't understand why they assign a number to a location, which is assigned to a port.. or whatever.. I know there's an extra step there that shouldn't be. That's just dumb. If I want multiple #'s to exist in the Fujitsu I just say it exists. I can't remember, something like ADD NULL or something. I then would have a fully usable 'number', but no physical port assigned to it.
I'm sure the next leap if we make one will be IP based, but I figure that standard needs another 5 years (in this economy, 3 in a good one) to stabilize and have good vendor interoperability.
I have a customer who just got an NEC (IIRC), he dumped an older model Meridian for it.. We'll see how that thing works out.
We were told by our switch vendor (its a Nortel Meridian 61C) that we couldn't do caller id outbound due to the fact that we had T1s. I always presumed that the T1s didn't support that kind of signaling, but it could be the combination of Qwest T1s and our switch rev (which is kind of getting ancient) wouldn't send that data out.
I'd say your switch probably doesn't send out that info. I'm not a fan of the Meridian system. Setting up a phone is a huge drag, and having multiple numbers ring at one station royally sucks. (In the fujitsu, ADD MLDT [Multi-Line Digital Telephone] creates a phone - there's only one port to worry about. MOD MLPFB [Multi-Line Programmable Feature Buttons] lets you modify all the buttons - and I can just add another extension to another button. No biggie). Though the Meridian does that that 'phone remembers it's #' feature. I don't use it, I just don't trust it enough;)
The mantra was always that if we wanted good caller id we needed PRI, but its a huge forklift upgrade involving several software releases and CPU upgrades that nobody is interested in spending money on ("the phone works fine"). We have so few display phones anyway that inbound caller id would be kind of a waste of money, unless someone gave us a few hundred displays or phones with displays.
Oh... I thought you meant outbound CID. Hmm I really don't see where that would make a difference - but I'm not a telco;)
My PHB keeps asking me why we want to spend $30k to upgrade the phone system instead of replacing it, and I keep telling him its cheaper than the $400k it will take to replace it.
If it were me, I'd drop the Meridian and get a Fujistu. I love that thing. It'll handle up to 9600 extensions, and it's expandible all across the board. Then again, I KNOW the fujitsu, I've added T1's, Digital and Analog phone cards, and did some funky T1 PBX to PBX connection with it (for a remote site), and I've only been frustrated by the damn little 2 line interface for the Meridian.
If you have a small office and don't make many changes, like where I am now, it's fine. But I detest creating new phones for users in the beast..
My post was about doing the opposite. For example, a busy call center that needed up to 200 concurrent calls, but only has a few numbers (say, a master 1-800 number) that people would be calling in on. In the old days you'd have to get 200 numbers and set up a giant hunt group, but with PRIs the numbers can be allocated much more efficiently.
Ahh yes.. Been there. Call center people though HATE not having direct lines. Tough I said. (when our pool of 400 DID's ran low);)
That's funny; we have a switched T1 at work using DNIS, and AT&T keeps bugging us to switch it to a PRI. Though the nice thing about it is that I can use the T1 to place calls that show up as "Caller ID Unavailable";)
We got the same thing from Worldcom. I think setting up a PRI is cheaper for them. What I DO like about PRI's, is you can query the D-channel, and get all the current call info for the other 23 channels. Though your Caller ID should work out the T1 unless the provider has it set up wrong (that was my experience with USXChange - Worldcom could do it, USX couldn't. At least not consistently)
The extra downforce increases the normal force exerted from the ground on the bird. Friction is proportional to the normal force, and thus provides more traction to allow the bird to run up the slope (rather than allowing the bird to slide back down the slope).
Yeah, that's great. Are you really agreeing with the theory that dino's ran uphill SO MUCH that evolution picked the ones that would do it BETTER than the other ones?
Maybe if they had to run uphill so much, they really got 'wings' to float back down;) It was a form of protection, see. They'd let a 'sharp-tooth' chase them up a cliff, they would jump off and float to the ground, while the 'sharp-tooth' fell to his death.
They don't. Pretty much any business with 200 or more phone lines will use PRIs. A PRI is a T1 line (24 channels) to the phone company. So your business would have 9 PRIs coming in, for a total of 216 channels.
Umm no. They'll have a single PRI (specifically 23 B channels and 1 D - so 9 PRI's would actually only allow 207 simultanious incoming and outgoing calls - but I digress), and 200 numbers. The numbers are, hopefully, one nice large bank, and when the PBX receives a call for 555-1212, it'll be smart enough to see 'oh 1212 is ours, that goes to ext 1212'. At least that's the easy way to do it;) When you move up to T1's, you'll route to extensions via DNIS digits. The easy way to do that is also by the last 4 digits (but it sucks when you get an 800# that happens to have the same last 4 as another 800 or an internal extension - but again I digress)
Businesses with updated phone systems and ISDN PRI can deliver desktop calling party info to outside lines as well as internally. Many places (like us) haven't made that upgrade yet and still rely on T1 trunking which doesn't have that capability -- on our system you get just the trunk number.
You mean businesses with good PBX's and decent providers. In my last life I admin'd a Fujitsu 9600 with 5 T1's, and a PRI. The PRI was SBC local, and 2 T1's did LD out with WorldCom. Those were the only stable providers.. Both local and LD would send 'Caller ID', but I only set it up to send the main number.
Where CallerID didn't work, is when we tried to use USXChange for a local provider. They couldn't seem to get CallerID to work right. That was a full T1, and it worked sporadically.
Ahh I loved my Fujitsu.. don't even get me started on these cheapo garbage Norstars.
To be entirely fair, there's a good reason why dockworkers get paid more than programmers...when was the last time you heard of a programmer getting killed doing his job. That rope he's looping over a capstan is attached to a very large, very heavy ship that's rocking with the swells and tide, and shifting as loads are added or removed. One wrong move and that rope could easily crush a person, or snap and cut someone in half. It may be a job anyone can do, but it's also one that you've got to risk your life for.
Working for a company that has many products made overseas, I can say they are the worst example of a union that I can think of. Well, unless you work for them. During the recent strike the unions were offered the following: Minimum $110k per worker, 100% medical coverage, no jobs lost due to technology. Oh, and they refused it.
There are people there STILL doing paper manifests, while the rest of the world starting using EDI in the 80's. Nope, Not the major ports in the U.S., they're unionized.
As an IT drone, it is not your job to dictate what background picture/colour I have. If having BIG white letters on a black background increases my productivity, you, on behalf of the company, should be happy, even though it means you'll get to spend a few more minutes with me in the event that I need some help.
I still sort of think that way, but the KISS fan who decided to change his desktop colors to a black background with white text started changing my mind.
He wasn't able to print from any custom apps. Of course when you ask the programmers, it's not a programming issue, it's a system issue.
You know how long it took to figure that shit out?
A lot more time/money than allowing users to customize is worth. "A few more minutes" my ass:/
Yeah... it works great as a file server with XP/2000 clients. I want a replacement for a Windows 2000 Active Directory domain controller.
Netware 6. Comes with licenses so you can build a fileserver with failover. 2 years ago I built one, streamed a video file from the fileserver, downed the 1st, and the stream paused for a second before the 2nd server picked up the stream.
Suppose I run my own legitimate business at home from my computer? That's a pretty hefty burden to deal with if the shop I take my system to screws it up. You could say that it's my responsibility to keep backups of my data, but I'd just as easily say it's the shop's responsibility to make sure that they don't break what isn't already broken. You know...the ol' Hippocratic oath
If you're running your own business, I would think this basic rule applies: If they have enough money to run commercials, they must be doing SOMETHING right.
Yes, everyone screws up once in a while, that's what insurance is for. Those companies that can afford commercials, can afford to pay you for what they screwed up, because they're already a decent size. It's the small ones you need to watch out for.
That goes for everything from Hair cuts, to auto-repair, to computer repair, to telecoms, to Airlines (What was that one in FL?). Be safe, not cheap, and you'll do fine.
Read one of his Usenet posts [google.com] about printing difficulties with Windows 98 machines.
Being a big fan of Pegasus Mail myself, and on the mailing list on and off for about 7 years, I can say that I've seen this question ask MANY times. Pegasus Mail likes to load the printer driver to view an email. Don't ask my why, but it does. In Netware, this works just fine. It also works just fine if you capture//server/printer to LPT1. But, if you do a straight map to//server/printer, sometimes Pegasus Mail just doesn't want to display the message.
I have come across this a few times in my Netware environment (which, IMHO, Pegsasus Mail was MADE for), but only when also using funky MS Networking and UNC printer mapping.
So no, it's not REALLY a Win98 issue, it's a Pegasus Mail issue.
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If you so strongly want to believe this nonsense, please post a reference to either a standard or recommendation that states that User-Agent is a mandatory HTTP parameter. You know as well as I do that User-Agent strings are optional, and relying on them to determine presentation is so typically short-sighted that its now laughable.
IMHO, it's a pain in the butt that the 'standards' themselves aren't complete. You don't run into it making your home page, but having just re-created the company website, I can tell you it's a pain in the butt.
- Pixels are not the same size between browsers.
- does the # of pixels from the left include the border of the main window?
That's just two examples of MINOR issues that can snowball on you. I have a sHTML footer that's appended after everything else is written. It worked fine, until I started with the 'store listing'. Since the pixels are all different, sometimes the footer is written OVER a store in IE, but not Mozilla, or vice-versa.I also have an 'About us' page where text is 'wrapped' around a graphic. I have to have seperate style sheets for IE and Mozilla because of spacing issues between one or the other.
www.valeoinc.com if you're interested (I welcome suggetions, I'm far from an expert.)
PITA. Yet both are technically 'compliant' - some standards just aren't exact enough.
So all of a sudden all the bots you're controlling stop responding and disappear?
Yeah, I'm sure then you'll go right back to what you were doing, so the FBI can nab you.
But I guess fighting faceless villans with wicked plots to destroy the world is a lot more fun.
You're suggestion to 'just remove the worm' would give the author notice that the feds were on to him.
It's not quite as exciting when you realise that most of the villans are actually just naughty children.
So what? They still need to be stopped. That's like just painting over grafitti everyday instead of preventing it, or finding the perps.
Probably because not every packages needs all of GCC, so 'GCC' is split up into independant packages.
I am no programmer but i guess i would classify myself as a power user (not even sysadmin). Why does everythign have to be so damn complicated in Linux?
That's kinda general. I'm sure in Debian, all you would need is apt-get gcc, in Mandrake you can select 'gcc' to install.
He was working from a stripped down version of Mandrake, IIRC, tailored to the X-box.
I just moved my company firewall to MNF (Mandrake's Multi-Network Firewall), and installed qmail, qmail-scanner, and SpamAssassin on it. It took about that many packages to get GCC on it. But the firewall distro wasn't designed for installing packages, so all I had to start with was rpm.
I'm sure you'd have the same types of issues trying to get your WinCE machine to do some of the things that your WinXP box on your desk does. Sure, they're both Windows, but I doubt you'd complain that Windows was difficult. You'd just say, 'Well, it IS WinCE'.
I have a customer that's running his mail server off one of those. You can't beat $200 for a low traffic machine.
Exactly.. it took me a while before I figured out the fridge was causing my problems ;).
I can get full power surrounded by tile in the bathroom, but the damn fridge blocks the bedroom.
Then my brain went *beep* *beep* *beep*
Yeah, I was going to post the same thing. Only read Carmack in the morning, that way you have the rest of the day to bring your ego back up to level 5 ;)
Oh I forgot, I did:
A Google Search: "How do I change the resolution in Red Hat 7.3"
And got:
Configuring X (Red Hat Docs)
And
Change of screen resolution by toggling (solution found)- Red Hat mailing list
So, in short, no. I don't see where your complaint is coming from. You should have been able to change it in 5 minutes, even if you hunt and peck x-c-o-n-f-i-g-u-r-a-t-o-r.
That's what it comes down to, but you're making the assumption that the PC at hand will 'just work' better with Windows than any other os.
You've been brainwashed. Windows doesn't always 'just work', unless the PC came with the OS pre-loaded. Wait a second, the PC's that come with Linux preinstalled 'just work' also! Who'd have thought!
It has nothing to do with the OS, but how well you hardware matches up with the drivers included in whatever OS you have in your hand at the moment.
Yes, users shouldn't have to know anything about the OS, just their applications. I think when you say 'it just works', you mean those users already know how to use familiar applicatons, and a different version is too much for them.
That fact not only goes for using KWord on Linux, but it also applied to using OpenOffice or 123 on Windows.
Hardware support is NOT the issue, and is a cop out excuse for so-called System Analysts who can't support their users. I remember one 'Systems Analyst' I worked with who was convinced changing mail server settings via a web page was SO much better than editing a sendmail.cf file. "See if I want to relay, I just fire up a web browser, goto http://that.system:4439, enter my password, click admin, then put the relay host in the field, and click 'restart'" /etc/sendmail.cf, change the line that says 'Relay', and kill -HUP the process". There is no difference, you still have to know what you're doing. You just THINK editing data is easier through a web browser (or a registry editor?), because you've been brainwashed.
I said, "Or you could log into the machine, and run pico on
No, end users shouldn't be doing that, they should be buying pre-built systems where the OEM has taken care of all the configuring. If they want to muck around in there, THEN they need to know what they're doing (or pay someone who does - like a mechanic).
I don't know how the hell you got modded +5, you made changes to your default configuration, and then bitched that it didn't work. Then you bitch that nobody can help you - and you're a 'Systems Analyst'? Apparently, it's never occurred to you that NOBODY may have had the exact combination of hardware and software that you had. I PERSONALLY have given HP solutions because I've used hardware and software that they haven't tested, yet you come along and think that some guy 'on the internet' MUST have the answer without you doing a lick of work yourself? You must call OEMs, and never touch the machine again until they call you back, because they MUST know what you've done to the machine. You really think that everybody has gotten every possible combination of hardware and software to work, and you're going to get free support, just because you tried Linux?
FYI, as for credibility, I USED to be a Systems Analyst, then a 'Systems Analyst II', and now I'm a Manager. You won't move up if you can't research problems. I like:
Secondly, MS provides you with a UI to install, configure, and troubleshoot video card problems. If KDE or Gnome has something like that, I've yet to find it. Strike 2 against Linux.
Followed up by:
You Linux Zealots think the user has to know more about their computer than they should to make it work. It's your attitude that it's not called for.
So are users supposed to solve their own problems or not? Diags are not for end users. You're merely complaining that the Diag APPLICATION on Linux isn't the same as it is on Windows. boo hoo. Learn it, or don't try and fix it, but don't complain that you can't fix a problem because the tools are different. Oh no! I can't fix an NVidia problem, because the Control Panel interface isn't the same as ATI's!
I think my sig applies to you more than anyone..
Yeah, but there are plenty of alternatives. The strip of metal from a wooden ruler works great. I used to use that when my wife locked me out of our apartment (No, not fighting, I just never rememebered my key.)
Also, if you do phone stuff, you know where you can get a yellow 'pick' with a metal end. If you straighten that out, it's pretty decent too.
This technique is only marginally safer (less detectable) than an attack with lockpicking tools
And then he said:
"Burglars are interested in committing burglary, not in publishing results or warning people."
How many people are really worried about this risk? Hell, the last place I was at, they installed a window in a PUBLIC hallway so they could show off the computer room.
Of course, that window was secured with imbedded chicken wire....
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And according to the news release, that apparently nobody read, you can stream Real and MP3 for free, non-commerically.
"Helix DNA Server streams MP3, RealAudio® and RealVideo®. RealNetworks intends to add support for MPEG-4 after the MPEG-4 systems license terms have been released by the MPEG-4 licensing body, MPEG LA. Developers can create extensions for other media types such as Windows Media and QuickTime, or they can license these extensions from RealNetworks through the Helix Community. "
Err.. Insightful? I thought the point of OpenSource was sharing. Now you've got the source for a potentially great streaming media server, and you're bitching about not having the codecs?
I suppose you'd rather re-write the whole server, AND the codecs yourself instead of just the codecs.
No, it's not 100% free, but if you're looking for 100% free streaming server there are many already out there.
If this was Jack Mioff releasing this (half-done) on Sourceforge, you would be hearlding this as another step forward for OpenSource. I guess because it's from Real, they should be able to give you the whole thing for free, right? Wine changed to GPL because they didn't want companies profitting from their code, and not giving anything back. Why do you think a company would be any different?
Please, be thankful you now have another choice, and if you want a codec, code it yourself.
Hmm, I don't think that's what I mean. If I want extension 5000 to ring at 3 stations, and those three stations already have extensionos, I waste one port, AND it's a paind to setup (I just gave up, and had the vendor do it - and it took him an hour to do it) I don't understand that. On my favorite Fujitsu, on the console, I just type 'ADD MLPFB', up comes a screen where I can insert an extension in a box that represents a button on the phone. It shouldn't take an hour to do that..
What drives me nuts about it isn't the complexity, its that you define a phone more so than a *number*. I'd like a number to have a set of HUNT and FDN and other behaviors that are unique to the number regardless of the TN they appear on. Right now the MARP TN controls that behavior, which is a huge nuisance if you have a number that needs to appear on a phone with other numbers but needs unique HUNT/FDN behavior. You basically need to build a different TN, which means you need to either place an additional phone or find a place for all those "extra" phones.
Yep, THAT's what I'm talking about. ARS and stuff should be done based on the number itself... I still don't understand why they assign a number to a location, which is assigned to a port.. or whatever.. I know there's an extra step there that shouldn't be. That's just dumb. If I want multiple #'s to exist in the Fujitsu I just say it exists. I can't remember, something like ADD NULL or something. I then would have a fully usable 'number', but no physical port assigned to it.
I'm sure the next leap if we make one will be IP based, but I figure that standard needs another 5 years (in this economy, 3 in a good one) to stabilize and have good vendor interoperability.
I have a customer who just got an NEC (IIRC), he dumped an older model Meridian for it.. We'll see how that thing works out.
I'd say your switch probably doesn't send out that info. I'm not a fan of the Meridian system. Setting up a phone is a huge drag, and having multiple numbers ring at one station royally sucks. (In the fujitsu, ADD MLDT [Multi-Line Digital Telephone] creates a phone - there's only one port to worry about. MOD MLPFB [Multi-Line Programmable Feature Buttons] lets you modify all the buttons - and I can just add another extension to another button. No biggie). Though the Meridian does that that 'phone remembers it's #' feature. I don't use it, I just don't trust it enough ;)
The mantra was always that if we wanted good caller id we needed PRI, but its a huge forklift upgrade involving several software releases and CPU upgrades that nobody is interested in spending money on ("the phone works fine"). We have so few display phones anyway that inbound caller id would be kind of a waste of money, unless someone gave us a few hundred displays or phones with displays.
Oh... I thought you meant outbound CID. Hmm I really don't see where that would make a difference - but I'm not a telco ;)
My PHB keeps asking me why we want to spend $30k to upgrade the phone system instead of replacing it, and I keep telling him its cheaper than the $400k it will take to replace it.
If it were me, I'd drop the Meridian and get a Fujistu. I love that thing. It'll handle up to 9600 extensions, and it's expandible all across the board. Then again, I KNOW the fujitsu, I've added T1's, Digital and Analog phone cards, and did some funky T1 PBX to PBX connection with it (for a remote site), and I've only been frustrated by the damn little 2 line interface for the Meridian.
If you have a small office and don't make many changes, like where I am now, it's fine. But I detest creating new phones for users in the beast..
Ahh yes.. Been there. Call center people though HATE not having direct lines. Tough I said. (when our pool of 400 DID's ran low) ;)
That's funny; we have a switched T1 at work using DNIS, and AT&T keeps bugging us to switch it to a PRI. Though the nice thing about it is that I can use the T1 to place calls that show up as "Caller ID Unavailable" ;)
We got the same thing from Worldcom. I think setting up a PRI is cheaper for them. What I DO like about PRI's, is you can query the D-channel, and get all the current call info for the other 23 channels. Though your Caller ID should work out the T1 unless the provider has it set up wrong (that was my experience with USXChange - Worldcom could do it, USX couldn't. At least not consistently)
Yeah, that's great. Are you really agreeing with the theory that dino's ran uphill SO MUCH that evolution picked the ones that would do it BETTER than the other ones?
Maybe if they had to run uphill so much, they really got 'wings' to float back down ;) It was a form of protection, see. They'd let a 'sharp-tooth' chase them up a cliff, they would jump off and float to the ground, while the 'sharp-tooth' fell to his death.
Yeah, that's it ;) Where's my prize?
Umm no. They'll have a single PRI (specifically 23 B channels and 1 D - so 9 PRI's would actually only allow 207 simultanious incoming and outgoing calls - but I digress), and 200 numbers. The numbers are, hopefully, one nice large bank, and when the PBX receives a call for 555-1212, it'll be smart enough to see 'oh 1212 is ours, that goes to ext 1212'. At least that's the easy way to do it ;) When you move up to T1's, you'll route to extensions via DNIS digits. The easy way to do that is also by the last 4 digits (but it sucks when you get an 800# that happens to have the same last 4 as another 800 or an internal extension - but again I digress)
You mean businesses with good PBX's and decent providers. In my last life I admin'd a Fujitsu 9600 with 5 T1's, and a PRI. The PRI was SBC local, and 2 T1's did LD out with WorldCom. Those were the only stable providers.. Both local and LD would send 'Caller ID', but I only set it up to send the main number.
Where CallerID didn't work, is when we tried to use USXChange for a local provider. They couldn't seem to get CallerID to work right. That was a full T1, and it worked sporadically.
Ahh I loved my Fujitsu.. don't even get me started on these cheapo garbage Norstars.
Working for a company that has many products made overseas, I can say they are the worst example of a union that I can think of. Well, unless you work for them. During the recent strike the unions were offered the following: Minimum $110k per worker, 100% medical coverage, no jobs lost due to technology. Oh, and they refused it.
There are people there STILL doing paper manifests, while the rest of the world starting using EDI in the 80's. Nope, Not the major ports in the U.S., they're unionized.
IMHO, They're a huge wart on the world economy.
I still sort of think that way, but the KISS fan who decided to change his desktop colors to a black background with white text started changing my mind.
He wasn't able to print from any custom apps. Of course when you ask the programmers, it's not a programming issue, it's a system issue.
You know how long it took to figure that shit out?
A lot more time/money than allowing users to customize is worth. "A few more minutes" my ass :/
Netware 6. Comes with licenses so you can build a fileserver with failover. 2 years ago I built one, streamed a video file from the fileserver, downed the 1st, and the stream paused for a second before the 2nd server picked up the stream.
Plus you get NDS.. Beats AD any day.
I'm sure more than a few people reading Slashdot could easily drop 100lbs from the car, and extend their life 10 years at the same time..
If you're running your own business, I would think this basic rule applies:
If they have enough money to run commercials, they must be doing SOMETHING right.
Yes, everyone screws up once in a while, that's what insurance is for. Those companies that can afford commercials, can afford to pay you for what they screwed up, because they're already a decent size. It's the small ones you need to watch out for.
That goes for everything from Hair cuts, to auto-repair, to computer repair, to telecoms, to Airlines (What was that one in FL?). Be safe, not cheap, and you'll do fine.
Being a big fan of Pegasus Mail myself, and on the mailing list on and off for about 7 years, I can say that I've seen this question ask MANY times. Pegasus Mail likes to load the printer driver to view an email. Don't ask my why, but it does. In Netware, this works just fine. It also works just fine if you capture //server/printer to LPT1. But, if you do a straight map to //server/printer, sometimes Pegasus Mail just doesn't want to display the message.
I have come across this a few times in my Netware environment (which, IMHO, Pegsasus Mail was MADE for), but only when also using funky MS Networking and UNC printer mapping.
So no, it's not REALLY a Win98 issue, it's a Pegasus Mail issue.