So if you can deliver a data stream to everyone, why wouldn't they go to VOIP, or go to some sort of streaming content system. Simple... this was a single direction. This was not a radio broadcast to a 125 mile radius circle, this was akin to hitting someone in the forehead with a laser beam from 125 miles away. DON'T MOVE!!! It's also safe to say that one of these towers wouldn't suffice an 11mb connection. Actually most of these cities wouldn't suffice an 11GB connection. In Chicago alone there are over 1 million private computers on the internet. So your beloved 11MB, becomes 11 bits a second... even at 11GB - assuming fair distrobution - and zero overhead you get something like 11Kb/sec. Not even close to broadband. So this is little more than an interesting proof of concept.
but if you don't integrate it, then they people will likely start getting pissy about the fact that they really don't 'have' to buy anything, they just 'want' them to buy something....
I guess I was using 'could' in a more - does it make sense for your business model/employee intelegence level. It sounds ridiculous, but you wouldn't expect McDonalds employees to hit an extra button on every order.... they just wouldn't do it.... but to have it auto with each order... even if the technology does exist, it would still have to fit with your existing business model/location. But thanks for the info.
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The cost.... a WAP - a good one at that costs less than $300 US... a single terminal is at least that much. And then there's the fact that there is only one... and you have to maintain them. Laptops abound, let them just bring them in and use them.
Additionally I would say if you could do an automatically generated access code for paying customers then it definatly would outwiegh paid WiFi in the long run. Just look at it as this... $5/hr - maybe 300 people use it all month... $50/Day
1000 beverages a day 10cents each.. $100 day...
This is great politicing. Everyone reads: "One format is better than two." Sneak in the copy protection through the back door.
I want Blue-Ray to win personally, but right now I just want a frickin' 'HD'-DVD player - and content for it.
Given 10,000 hours of data on where I am, of course you can spot a pattern...... Let's see, it's monday, I bet he's in class. It's friday, and he was out till 4:00am at an establishment that serves alchol - I bet he is over sleeping his 7:30am lecture on Chemistry.
The interesting findings would have been the lack of ability to predict acurately what people were doing. It's especially easy to do this on a college campus where there aren't a lot of dual uses for things (there aren't a lot of reasons to go into the hall of chemistry vs say going into 101 America Tower in Downtown America's Ville).
Last time I checked Canada was about as high up on the lists of priorities as the IAFC. Not to sound like a bad neighbor... but really... If Canadiens don't like early daylight savings time, don't observe it. If you do like early daylight savings time, then observe it.
Try moving to Indiana - then you will realize WTF daylight savings time is all about. Durring the last vote, the major reason was that the farmers said it would mess up the cows... Think about this for a second.... 'mess up the cows.' Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot-OVER. Last time I checked the Cow's didn't wear watches. Pigs do; but they don't like the cows, so they won't tell them what's up. Additionally Wisconsin has about 50x as many cows as Indiana and they still observe DST.
Everyone here is about down the middle - 50/50 (and most are very adiment about their opinion). I personally set my clocks ahead anyway. But I just know that people close an hour earlier than they say they will. I also respond with the added bonus 'your time' when someone asks me the time - that makes it fun when I tell them I am from the same place as them, but I choose to observe daylight savings time.
read this article - 2 paragraphs - starting about the second one down. DST - WTF All I have to say is that the reason companies don't come here is not because companies are confused by times, it's because it's f@#k'n Indiana and there is jack squat else here... (Indianapolis is OK)
I have heard your argument before and I do understand it. There are other ways to encourage expansion. To limit people to just having a choice between Phone/Coax as their medium for recieving their internet highly limits innovation and discourages maintennce and service.
Long Range WiFi is just one of a host of ideas that is being met with steep opisition by the FCC because of the amount of lobying that the current carriers are doing. To service a house with Phone/Coax based technologies you have to physically lay a cable all the way from your doorstep to their doorstep. This becomes very expensive when population densitites drop below a certain point. However WiFi, one tower could be placed and all af a sudden you can reach hundreds of square miles. It makes more sense in rural areas then it does in urban areas, which is what you are complaining about.
So to quote your self... You really shouldn't call someone a "F%$kwit" when you don't understand what he's saying.
I want to focus on giving people broadband, but only you two can do it. Anyone who isn't currently making money off of this technology will not be able to make money off of it in the future - that will be the government's job.
Sincerly
FCC F%$kwit
AMEN!
FIOS is about the onlything that is starting to come close. And it's available in like 5 markets in the U.S.A. I do think the problem is still population density. The companies are continually 'expanding their network' and why upgrade if people are willing to pay $50 a month for 4Mb/512Kbps
In what will surely be flamed or moderated down.....
Mozilla(Firefox, etc) is reaching the point where competing with Microsoft becomes hard/more fair to microsoft. Their install base has grown past the "anti-microsoft-for-the-sake-of-anti-microsoft" people and now it has become a target that actually is large enough to aim at. Some estimates have Mozilla market share as high as 25%. This means that there are now people actively searching for security holes, as well as problems with updating the install base, for fear of obsoleting plugins and extentions. It will be interesting to see what happens as Mozilla foundation naturally looses momentum as they try to re-wage the browser wars.
-- Posted from Mozilla 1.7.8
Obviously it's a sweet design. And given the right price, most everyone who spent more than 20 minutes at a computer would want them. I have heard that in the goal or benifit on the horizon is to be able to make OLED reel to reel (?) or something where you can sort of make it the way you make news print. I have read about the fact that they is the possibility to create clothes with OLED ala Back to the future 2 and all kinds of cool things. I think at about 150 bucks this thing becomes mass marketable.
Not only did they put a 4 letter TLD - on a device where it's important to have short URLs but on most ABC phones, it would require 6- pause - 666 - 22-444
8 key presses and a pause!!!!!
My suggestion, in just 3 seconds of thinking I came up with 6-7-9 MPW which would give you mobile phone web.
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So if you can deliver a data stream to everyone, why wouldn't they go to VOIP, or go to some sort of streaming content system. Simple... this was a single direction. This was not a radio broadcast to a 125 mile radius circle, this was akin to hitting someone in the forehead with a laser beam from 125 miles away. DON'T MOVE!!! It's also safe to say that one of these towers wouldn't suffice an 11mb connection. Actually most of these cities wouldn't suffice an 11GB connection. In Chicago alone there are over 1 million private computers on the internet. So your beloved 11MB, becomes 11 bits a second... even at 11GB - assuming fair distrobution - and zero overhead you get something like 11Kb/sec. Not even close to broadband. So this is little more than an interesting proof of concept.
but if you don't integrate it, then they people will likely start getting pissy about the fact that they really don't 'have' to buy anything, they just 'want' them to buy something....
I guess I was using 'could' in a more - does it make sense for your business model/employee intelegence level. It sounds ridiculous, but you wouldn't expect McDonalds employees to hit an extra button on every order.... they just wouldn't do it.... but to have it auto with each order... even if the technology does exist, it would still have to fit with your existing business model/location. But thanks for the info.
The cost.... a WAP - a good one at that costs less than $300 US... a single terminal is at least that much. And then there's the fact that there is only one... and you have to maintain them. Laptops abound, let them just bring them in and use them.
Additionally I would say if you could do an automatically generated access code for paying customers then it definatly would outwiegh paid WiFi in the long run. Just look at it as this...
$5/hr - maybe 300 people use it all month... $50/Day
1000 beverages a day 10cents each.. $100 day...
This is great politicing. Everyone reads: "One format is better than two." Sneak in the copy protection through the back door. I want Blue-Ray to win personally, but right now I just want a frickin' 'HD'-DVD player - and content for it.
Ouch... my condolences.
Given 10,000 hours of data on where I am, of course you can spot a pattern...... Let's see, it's monday, I bet he's in class. It's friday, and he was out till 4:00am at an establishment that serves alchol - I bet he is over sleeping his 7:30am lecture on Chemistry. The interesting findings would have been the lack of ability to predict acurately what people were doing. It's especially easy to do this on a college campus where there aren't a lot of dual uses for things (there aren't a lot of reasons to go into the hall of chemistry vs say going into 101 America Tower in Downtown America's Ville).
Last time I checked Canada was about as high up on the lists of priorities as the IAFC. Not to sound like a bad neighbor... but really... If Canadiens don't like early daylight savings time, don't observe it. If you do like early daylight savings time, then observe it.
Try moving to Indiana - then you will realize WTF daylight savings time is all about. Durring the last vote, the major reason was that the farmers said it would mess up the cows... Think about this for a second.... 'mess up the cows.' Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot-OVER. Last time I checked the Cow's didn't wear watches. Pigs do; but they don't like the cows, so they won't tell them what's up. Additionally Wisconsin has about 50x as many cows as Indiana and they still observe DST.
Everyone here is about down the middle - 50/50 (and most are very adiment about their opinion). I personally set my clocks ahead anyway. But I just know that people close an hour earlier than they say they will. I also respond with the added bonus 'your time' when someone asks me the time - that makes it fun when I tell them I am from the same place as them, but I choose to observe daylight savings time.
read this article - 2 paragraphs - starting about the second one down. DST - WTF All I have to say is that the reason companies don't come here is not because companies are confused by times, it's because it's f@#k'n Indiana and there is jack squat else here... (Indianapolis is OK)
I have heard your argument before and I do understand it. There are other ways to encourage expansion. To limit people to just having a choice between Phone/Coax as their medium for recieving their internet highly limits innovation and discourages maintennce and service. Long Range WiFi is just one of a host of ideas that is being met with steep opisition by the FCC because of the amount of lobying that the current carriers are doing. To service a house with Phone/Coax based technologies you have to physically lay a cable all the way from your doorstep to their doorstep. This becomes very expensive when population densitites drop below a certain point. However WiFi, one tower could be placed and all af a sudden you can reach hundreds of square miles. It makes more sense in rural areas then it does in urban areas, which is what you are complaining about. So to quote your self... You really shouldn't call someone a "F%$kwit" when you don't understand what he's saying.
I want to focus on giving people broadband, but only you two can do it. Anyone who isn't currently making money off of this technology will not be able to make money off of it in the future - that will be the government's job. Sincerly FCC F%$kwit
AMEN! FIOS is about the onlything that is starting to come close. And it's available in like 5 markets in the U.S.A. I do think the problem is still population density. The companies are continually 'expanding their network' and why upgrade if people are willing to pay $50 a month for 4Mb/512Kbps
In what will surely be flamed or moderated down..... Mozilla(Firefox, etc) is reaching the point where competing with Microsoft becomes hard/more fair to microsoft. Their install base has grown past the "anti-microsoft-for-the-sake-of-anti-microsoft" people and now it has become a target that actually is large enough to aim at. Some estimates have Mozilla market share as high as 25%. This means that there are now people actively searching for security holes, as well as problems with updating the install base, for fear of obsoleting plugins and extentions. It will be interesting to see what happens as Mozilla foundation naturally looses momentum as they try to re-wage the browser wars. -- Posted from Mozilla 1.7.8
One of the many reasons I hate the internet. People need to go back to using it only for it's intended purpose. Downloading music/movies/porn!
Obviously it's a sweet design. And given the right price, most everyone who spent more than 20 minutes at a computer would want them. I have heard that in the goal or benifit on the horizon is to be able to make OLED reel to reel (?) or something where you can sort of make it the way you make news print. I have read about the fact that they is the possibility to create clothes with OLED ala Back to the future 2 and all kinds of cool things. I think at about 150 bucks this thing becomes mass marketable.
Not only did they put a 4 letter TLD - on a device where it's important to have short URLs but on most ABC phones, it would require 6- pause - 666 - 22-444 8 key presses and a pause!!!!! My suggestion, in just 3 seconds of thinking I came up with 6-7-9 MPW which would give you mobile phone web.