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  1. Re:DEBUNKED - Al Gore "invented" Internet smear on Govt Says: Internet Is Popular · · Score: 2
    The Libertarianism aspect is a key element of the story. The following are not my words. They are from the debunking by Salon :
    Libertarians typically believe that the government can't do anything right, and they prefer to forget or ignore the part government has played in the Net's triumph. Giving Gore credit means admitting the government's role; distorting and mocking his claims helps deny it.

    McCullagh, who is outspoken in his libertarian views, argues that, though he didn't use the word "invent," it is "a not entirely unreasonable paraphrase of the vice president's remarks," and suggests that the pro-Gore comments from Cerf may have a partisan basis: ...

    (n.b., the word "invented" was used in Declan McCullagh's SECOND article)

    Again, this isn't me. This is Salon . The Libertarian politics is interwoven all throughout the events, from origin to resistance to eventual retraction.

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  2. Re:DEBUNKED - Al Gore "invented" Internet smear on Govt Says: Internet Is Popular · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    An argument ad hominem is a logical fallacy. It attempts to deduce the truth of a statement from a personal characteristic. This is very often misunderstood to imply that a negative personal characteristic should never be mentioned in connection with a deliberate false statement.

    No offense taken, but note what you've written is in fact much closer structurally to the true argument ad hominem. You've attempted to infer something about the truth of the statements from impolite aspects of them. That is, you've stated my some of my comments are "emotional words" or "political slant", etc. You haven't said they are false. Note the difference.

    In fact, they are emotional, because I have very deep and complex associations here. It's a long story. But I'd defend what I wrote as accurate

    Moreover, I would assert that a key part of the smear was that it was deliberate. It was not an innocent misquote. Declan McCullagh knows, e.g. Dave Farber. He (Declan) knows who he can ask for factual comments. Rather, the "story" was a deliberate fabrication, and Declan did his best to dismiss people who were "there" via published personal attacks.

    Note the difference - Declan did not say that Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn were wrong, AND that the motive for their defense was that they were "Friends of Al". Rather, he dismissed what they said BECAUSE of that, which is classical ad hominem.

    Consider the two propositions
    1) Declan McCullagh wrote a false story
    2) Declan McCullagh wrote the story because he's a Libertarian proselytizer

    You are correct to note that #1 can be argued independently from #2. However, it would be incorrect to argue #1 is false because of #2 being argued. And #2 is relevant in itself, and should stand or fall on its own merits.

    There really isn't a nice way to say someone wrote a political hatchet-job. But I'd say refusing to discuss that aspect does history a disservice.

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  3. DEBUNKED - Al Gore "invented" Internet smear on Govt Says: Internet Is Popular · · Score: 4, Offtopic
    Sigh, maybe it's time to burn a karma point or two. This may be mistaken to be flamebait, but hopefully the references below will redeem it.

    The story that Al Gore claimed to have invented the Internet has been thoroughly debunked by Phil Agre in http://commons.somewhere.com/rre/2000/RRE.Al.Gore. and.the.Inte.html and rebutted further later
    That meme was a creation of Declan McCullagh, a "reporter" for Wired News who is politically a dogmatic Libertarian so extreme that he managed to get a book chapter using him as a poster-boy for Libertarian ideologues, and a different book chapter using him as Libertarian joke-fodder.

    If you think this is flame-bait, the aspect of his fabricated story being a Liberatarian hit-piece on Al Gore was extensively discussed in a debunking by Salon

    After Declan McCullagh was repeatedly taken to task for his hatchet-job, over more than year, by everyone who was there, from Dave Farberto Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf, Declan finally grudgingly retracted the "story"

    But people still repeat it, because urban legends never die.

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  4. Humor: There goes the neighborhood ... on Govt Says: Internet Is Popular · · Score: 2
    Remember when Slashdot was not the popular site it is now? (well, most people won't remember this, that's kind of the point, but bear with me ...). Now scale that up, project it nationally, Internet-wide ... The mind boggles ...

    Maybe this is horror, not humor, but I must laugh here else I'll cry.

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  5. Talk about clusters of webservers! on TCP/IP Enabled Lego Brick · · Score: 5, Funny
    I can't wait to see the experiments in configuration of server topologies.
    Maybe there should also be little sysadmin lego-people?

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  6. More We-Didn't-Violate-Russian-Law : Cyberspace on ElcomSoft Files For Dismissal Of E-Book Case · · Score: 3, Informative
    This part of the Elcomsoft Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Jurisdiction is particulary interesting (emphasis added):
    This motion presents an issue of first impression - may section 1201 of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act ("DMCA") be applied to a foreign corporation for conduct allegedly within its purview, but which occurred entirely on the Internet in cyberspace. We believe that law and logic compels the court to conclude that it may not be so applied. Elcomsoft believes and asserts that because of the unique nature of the Internet, it's alleged conduct, which only took place on and by means of the Internet occurred outside of the territorial jurisdiction United States. That is, it was extraterritorial in nature.

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  7. Typo! *DIDN'T* Violate Russian Law on ElcomSoft Files For Dismissal Of E-Book Case · · Score: 2
    That's what comes from typing too fast, sorry, violation of laws of comprehensibility :-(

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  8. We-did-violate-russian-law argument IS made on ElcomSoft Files For Dismissal Of E-Book Case · · Score: 2
    The We-didn't-violate-Russian-law argument is being made, in a separate motion:

    Elcomsoft Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Jurisdiction

    Even if the court were to find that Congress intended for section 1201 to apply extraterritorially, you must nevertheless conclude that the exercise of jurisdiction in this case does not meet constitutional standards. Application of section 1201 extraterritorially is also improper because its application in that manner would violate the norms of due process, including: (1) the rule of lenity; (2) the right of fair warning; and (3) the requirement of a sufficient nexus between the alleged conduct and the United States. "Under the rule of lenity, an ambiguous criminal statute is to be strictly construed against the Government." United States v. Bin Laden, 92 F.Supp.2d 189, 216 (S.D.N.Y.2000). The principle of fair warning requires those subject to the law have a "fair warning . . . in language that the common world will understand, of what the law intends to do if a certain line is passed. To make the warning fair, so far as possible the line should be clear." McBoyle v. United States, 283 U.S. 25, 27 (1931). In this case, regardless of whether the actions of Elcomsoft are deemed to have occurred within or without the United States, Elcomsoft had no warning that section 1201 could be applicable to its actions.

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  9. Humor - Didn't "Casino" do this with CHIPS? on Pay to Play II - Project Entropia · · Score: 4, Insightful
    http://www.project-entropia.com/info/default.asp?t opic=info says:
    Project Entropia will have a real economy system that allows you as a user to exchange real life money into PED (Project Entropia Dollars) and then back into a real currency again.
    Hmm, haven't I heard of something like this before? That is, places called something like Project Casino, which allows me as customer to exchange real life money into CHIPS (Cryptic High Intelligence Purchasing Symbols), use them in contests with random elements and against other players, like POKER (Popular Open Kard Environment Reaction), and then back into a real currency again? (assuming I have any left ...)

    But the house always wins ...

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  10. Careers, college, and the Pigeonhole Principle on Non-Traditional Career Routes? · · Score: 2
    Has anyone else gone to college intending to prepare for one career, only to fall into another, either by luck or design?
    Sure. I went to MIT to prepare for a career as a theoretical physicist. I double-majored in Physics and Mathematics, and got BS degrees in both of them. Then I experienced how difficult it was to advance up the academic ladder, compared to the demand for programmers. So I became a programmer. The pay was good, I didn't have to wear a tie, and I could sleep late in the morning (or even not get up until afternoon if the job conditions were particularly nice).

    Many people ended up programming based on these forces. When there is a scarcity, employers tend not to care much about your degree (the recent dot-boom was an extreme example of this phenomena). But inversely, the number of jobs for physics majors per se has always been far less than the number of people competing for them.

    Mathematically, it's the Pigeonhole Principle. Small numbers of jobs and large numbers of people chasing them lead to many people not getting the jobs. So they go elsewhere by necessity. It's that simple. See what a math education gets you ...

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  11. Process-saving is known, but not what you want on UNIX Process Cryogenics? · · Score: 4, Informative
    The idea of saving the state of a process is very well-known. Take a look at anything from emacs dumping to the gcore(1) program. It's been used in everything from saved games of Rogue to saved states of PERL.

    But isn't it overkill for a data-crunching operation? As many other people have noted, it would seem you're much better off checkpointing your data to disk, rather than relying on low-level OS process wizardry.

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  12. Easy to find *some* corrections in other media on News Media Scammed by 'Free Energy' Hoax · · Score: 2
    My theory is that the difference between Slashdot and other media is that they never correct themselves, no matter how inaccurate, so readers are left with a false picture of accuracy.
    Umm, how hard would it have been to go the NY Times web site and type in a query for corrections ?

    I can't resist: Cheap Irony: Are you now going to correct yourself on the subject of corrections?

    Now, what merits a correction, that's lots of fun fodder for media analysis. Of course you won't have to pay out on the challenge, because this sort of article isn't the type of material that is thought to require a correction (but if you were fair, you'd send me a Thinkgeek T-shirt anyway for catching you out above :-)).

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  13. Read article - this IS Northern Light data on Yahoo! Launches Pay-Per-Search · · Score: 5, Informative
    This IS the old Northern Light premium searching. It's not documents one can find in Google: (emphasis added)
    According to the site, Yahoo plans to charge consumers between $1 and $4 to retrieve files from a specialized database of some 25 million research documents culled from 7,100 publications, including academic periodicals. Yahoo also expects to offer a "Premium Discount Search" option of 50 documents a month for $4.95.

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  14. Tech Search For The Australian Blacklist on Censoring Australian Censors' Blacklist · · Score: 2
    Given my expertise in anti-censorware investigations I spent a considerable amount of time searching to discover if there was some sort of illegal-in-Australia category in censorware. This was prompted by OLD Australian government publications which had passages such as:
    Iseek have already made provision within the existing server software for the inclusion of a new category called "ABA". This category will include all URLs provided by the ABA in accordance with the take-down notices. Iseek would be able to accept the URLs via FTP etc.. and push the updated list out to all operational servers daily along with the normal daily list updates.
    [ABA = Australian Broadcasting Authority]

    Again, this is old, and modifications in the Australian law render it no longer applicable. I eventually came to the conclusion that the "Australian" blacklist bit never got implemented (at least in what I could examine). So it seems that the bans works, operationally, by the Australian government just sending the sites to various censorware companies. The blacklisted sites are then just mixed into the general huge censorware blacklist itself.

    Amusing footnote: A little before everything broke loose in What Happened To The Censorware Project (censorware.org), I actually tried to enlist Michael Sims' support in my first idea for a technical attack on the Austrialian blacklist. This was because at the time he was well-positioned (as a "journalist", and also with other contacts) to take certain legal risks which I found extremely worrisome. No help whatsoever, in any form. Luckily, it seems not to have mattered.

  15. No-reg-required link to article from Yahoo on NY Times on Anime · · Score: 4, Informative
  16. Read it, lived it, and I did make a difference! on History of the Electronic Frontier Foundation · · Score: 4, Interesting
    It's one of the high points of my life that The Electronic Frontier Foundation honored me with a 2001 Pioneer Award
    (even if my former colleague Michael Sims did later publicly proclaim he regretted nominating me, and my award probably didn't get any Slashdot coverage because of What Happened To The Censorware Project (censorware.org))

    It's possible to make a difference. Though it's a lot of work, sometimes a lot of risk, and it isn't easy. EFF has made a difference in my life, and in many other people's lives.

  17. Jon Johansen's own words on DeCSS code on Jon Johansen Indicted by Norwegian Authorities · · Score: 5, Informative
    As Jon Johansen put it himself in an old interview:

    http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2000-01/lw -01-dvd-interview.html

    Jon Johansen: I'm 16 now, I was 15 when it happened ... and the encryption code wasn't in fact written by me, but written by the German member. There seems to be a bit of confusion about that part.

    LinuxWorld: The other two people that you had worked with to make the player are remaining anonymous -- is that right?

    Jon Johansen: Yes, that is correct.

    ...

    LinuxWorld: Do you know why they want to remain anonymous?

    Jon Johansen: They are both a lot older than me, and they are employed. So I guess they just didn't want the publicity, and they were perhaps afraid of getting fired.

    He's a wonderfully plain-spoken person. My other favorite Jon Johansen quote is from when he was responding to reporter Declan McCullagh, and Declan was arrogantly giving Jon a hard time for not immediate returning Declan's request for comment:

    Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:26:23 +0100
    From: Jon Johansen (Micro Media ADB)
    Subject: [Livid-dev] Wired article on legal threats

    I assume you've read a great deal of articles on the subject? If you have, you might have noticed that I'm only 15 years old; which means I go to school. Norway is GMT+01. You should be able to figure out the time difference, and when I would be available for comment :)

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  18. Re:censorware.org as a case study - SERIOUS on Cooperation Works if Majority Can Punish Freeloaders · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Let me try to clarify what I meant in that paragraph. In most simple discussions of Prisoner's Dilemma competitions, much is made that the strategy of Tit-For-Tat is a winner. This cooperates in response to previous cooperation, and defects in response to previous defection. When people then try to draw moral prescriptions from this strategy, they almost always focus on the respond with cooperation part, and ignore the respond with defection part of the strategy. But both responses, even the negative response, are a vital part of ensuring overall cooperation - and that's the lesson of the article about punishing freeloaders here.

    And this problem manifested itself in the case study of censorware.org. Many people offered well-meaning advice to simply let Michael Sims defect on us all without any corresponding action (that is, completely ignore all the damage and broken links and misdirection caused by his destroying censorware.org). I understand the nice-person reasoning behind this advice. But I always thought it was deeply flawed in a game-theoretic sense.

    Now remember, a negative response costs both parties. And we're dealing with human beings, not program strategies. It's very tempting to avoid the moral hit associated with initiating a negative response. I've gotten many a comment that I lessen myself, I lower my reputation, by discussing
    What Happened To The Censorware Project (censorware.org)

    I'm not blind to that. But in game-theory terms, I'm paying the cost myself of responding to a defection. It's important to do it, even at a cost.

    Where things get even worse, though, is "the power of journalism" problem. Which is basically, what if someone can't respond?. What do you do if you're a programmer, and a journalist defects on you? Sometimes a workable response is to get some other journalist to champion your cause, but that's not something to rely upon. And even if so, that tends not to hurt the defecting journalist anywhere near as much as the defecting journalist can hurt the programmer. This is why I keep wrestling with the problem.

  19. censorware.org as a case study - SERIOUS on Cooperation Works if Majority Can Punish Freeloaders · · Score: 4, Troll
    [Let's see how long this article lasts with a positive score ...]

    I've been wrestling with the article's issue, on a game-theoretic level, for years. For example, many people simply do not understand what I say when I discuss the events and aftermath of
    What Happened To The Censorware Project (censorware.org)

    It's far deeper than ego or "personal", which are superficial reactions I get. In game-theory, the Prisoner's Dilemma teaches us that that individuals have an incentive to defect in terms of cooperative resources. Now, having said that, what then? What follows? How does one go about organizing a cooperative venture with this knowledge in mind?

    To quote the article:

    When penalties were allowed, the common good prevailed, and the investment by each group member climbed. "But if there's no opportunity for punishment, cooperation unravels," says Fehr, with investment declining rapidly.

    This is the exact argument I made passionately regarding the necessity of making there be some penalty for Michael Sims' actions in destroying censorware.org. It's the flip side of enlightened self-interest. Cooperation cannot be supported if someone can defect without penalty. But:

    In some games, players could then fine each other, but they had to pay a small sum for this.
    Indeed. It's not costless to create downsides. This makes it tempting to ignore their role in maintaining cooperation. They're unpleasant, to say the least.

    But what if it's nigh-impossible to have a penalty? This is an aspect where I think about "the power of journalism". As a programmer who has worked with journalists (many times unhappily), I'm acutely aware that as a general rule, journalists can harm me with manipulated coverage, much more than I can punish them via semi-futile protests about their actions. This is in fact my number-one publicity worry about anti-censorware work and how I'd ever get covered nowadays in Slashdot if I ever were to be sued like Dmitry Sklyarov.

    So in the end, I don't have a solution. But the implications of this problem are NOT abstract, in fact are very immediate.

  20. Re:Ability to tag friend or foe on Slashdot Code Update · · Score: 2
    But with the ability to assign "Friend or Foe" you essentially gain the ability to make the No-Mans-Land of the comments into an area that only reflects your own views and opinions.
    Hmm ... That was the argument Cass Sunstein was making in Republic.com I don't think it'll be a problem. Look at it this way: People who don't want to read opposing views, are probably better off not doing so (i.e. less ill-considered replies).

    Now, facilitating friend-or-foe moderation abuse, however, is another matter. Those green and red indicators make dandy "targets".

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  21. Been There - remember the "voice" lie detector? on The Eyes Have It · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The article says:
    "This is the first technology that allows lying to be measured or lying to be detected without any contact with the subject whatsoever instantaneously, in real time," said lead researcher James Levine, an endocrinologist at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. "You don't need to hook them up to anything -- you don't need any sophisticated experts to analyze the data."
    Everyone seems to have forgotten Voice Stress Analysis which was once similarly hyped as real-time, no-contact, super-duper lie detection. And where is it now? In fact, it was better, since you could supposedly apply it to a tape-recording, and there's even VSA freeware you can run on your own PC (have fun).

    Remember, stress is a matter of the body, but a lie is a matter of the mind. They're correlated in many people, but by no means identical. Just think, do you know any smooth-talking liars (i.e. ones displaying minimal stress)?

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  22. Re:Maybe missing the point on Sklyarov Clarifies Circumstances of Release, Testimony · · Score: 2
    I'm interested in trying to figure out what this all means, rather than who is winning the PR battle of perception. The DOJ is presenting it one way. The defense, understandably, is presenting it another way. The import of the agreement seems to me something which is just too complex to sum up in a simple sound-bite. It's not formally a plea-bargain, as he didn't agree he was guilty. But the charges weren't dropped either, he could still go to trial if he was later ruled not to be in compliance with the arrangement (unlikely, perhaps, but conceivable).

    There so much politics and spin involved, it is very difficult to determine the truth. I got slightly burned somewhere else in being misperceived as critical of Dmitry, because I didn't think this was nearly as big a legal concession as many people seem to believe. I wish there were some commentary and analysis from independent criminal lawyers.

    As others have pointed out the DOJ realized that they had a good chance of blowing the DMCA ...
    I don't see this. I don't see it at all.

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  23. Re:Maybe missing the point on Sklyarov Clarifies Circumstances of Release, Testimony · · Score: 2
    Maybe I am putting words in your mouth that you never meant but it seems to me that going back to the "Source" is not quite valid.
    On the contrary, I would argue that the primary source material is the most valid and important document to examine. Otherwise, we are proceeding here from a reporter's excerpting and intepretation of press releases.

    Statements and press releases aren't legally binding. But the "Pretrial Diversion Agreement" (to give it the formal name) is a formal court document, binding on both parties.

    The issue at hand is the perception that he had admitted "wrongdoing" that is perpetrated by the DOJ / Press release.
    This is where things get slippery. The word "wrongdoing" does not appear in the DOJ press release. Nor "misconduct". They talk about admitted his conduct and his conduct in the offense. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't want to get into this too much. But it seems the argument revolves around exactly what this signifies. But the above document at least lets us know exactly what was admitted and agreed on all sides.

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  24. Link to FULL TEXT of Skylarov document on Sklyarov Clarifies Circumstances of Release, Testimony · · Score: 5, Informative
    It would be helpful for the discussion to be informed by

    The FULL TEXT of the document regarding Skylarov

    Further, deponent sayeth not (at least in this message ...)

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  25. Better ref. on Ticketmaster v. Tickets.com on You May Not Link This Web Site · · Score: 2
    IANAL, but a good article is

    Emerging Legal Guidance on 'Deep Linking' By Margaret Smith Kubiszyn

    "Once again, Ticketmaster took the lead toward resolution of the deep-linking issues by filing suit against Tickets.com in July 1999. Tickets.com could be characterized as a competitor of Ticketmaster, acting as a clearinghouse for tickets, linking to sources for tickets to events (including links to Ticketmaster), auction services and premium ticket brokers. Ticketmaster alleged that, in addition to deep linking into Ticketmaster's site, Tickets.com copied material from the Ticketmaster site and posted false information about the availability of tickets from Ticketmaster."

    ...

    "On March 27, 2000, U.S. Judge District Judge Harry Hupp issued a ruling dismissing four counts of Ticketmaster's complaint, including some counts involving deep linking. In dismissing the first claim, which alleged copyright infringement, Judge Hupp stated: "[H]yperlinking does not itself involve a violation of the Copyright Act (whatever it may do for other claims) since no copying is involved. The customer is automatically transferred to the particular genuine web page of the original author. There is no deception in what is happening. This is analogous to using a library's card index to get reference to particular items, albeit faster and more efficiently."

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