Advertisers have no idea if people are actually listening to podcasts, or if they're just downloading them and never playing them back, so there's no guidance for pricing the accompanying ads. "Prices -- people have been making them up," he says.'
Let's keep it that way. Now the advertizers know how to feel how it is to be cheated. Please.. Why not just podcasting for the joy of it.. Keep yous shows real and ban out all the advertisement and privacy problem shit. Lets keep up raising the prices for advertisers-> the more we will actually hear and see what we really want to hear and see.
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You right. But it also depends on what kind of bits for what kind of processor and how the innovation in software use (that affects the architecture of that processor) will be. I think before they will sell (never) 1024 bits "processors", there might be some qubits and quantum processors and a pletoria of different architectures in processors as well (if we haven't become backwards cavemen due to the centuries of patent-wars)..
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit:
"A change from a 32-bit to a 64-bit architecture is a fundamental alteration, as most operating systems must be extensively modified to take advantage of the new architecture. Other software must also be ported to use the new capabilities; older software is usually supported through either a hardware compatibility mode (in which the new processors support an older 32-bit instruction set as well as the new modes), through software emulation, or by the actual implementation of a 32-bit processor core within the 64-bit processor die (as with the Itanium2 processors from Intel). One significant exception to this is the AS/400, whose software runs on a virtual ISA which is implemented in low-level software. This software, called TIMI, is all that has to be rewritten to move the entire OS and all software to a new platform, such as when IBM transitioned their line from 32-bit POWER to 64-bit POWER.
While 64-bit architectures indisputably make working with huge data sets in applications such as digital video, scientific computing, and large databases easier, there has been considerable debate as to whether they or their 32-bit compatibility modes will be faster than comparably-priced 32-bit systems for other tasks.
Theoretically, some programs could well be faster in 32-bit mode. Instructions for 64-bit computing take up more storage space than the earlier 32-bit ones, so it is possible that some 32-bit programs will fit into the CPU's high-speed cache while equivalent 64-bit programs will not. However, in applications like scientific computing, the data being processed often fits naturally in 64-bit chunks, and will be faster on a 64-bit architecture because the CPU will be designed to process such information directly rather than requiring the program to perform multiple steps. Such assessments are complicated by the fact that in the process of designing the new 64-bit architectures, the instruction set designers have also taken the opportunity to make other changes that address some of the deficiencies in older instruction sets by adding new performance-enhancing facilities (such as the extra registers in the AMD64 design)."
The hardware / software industry (generally speaking) doesn't care about quality, as long as they are so busy competing with eachother in a high pace. Because companies are competing they will seek some features others haven't and most fo the time the relevancy of those features is very small, especially if the company has become very big (exceptions of course are always there). The crowd isn't very picky either, though it is clear open source has put value to the development of portable software. People buy a amd64 (not only because of the price, ofcourse some geeks also for the 64 bit feature) but the majority runs still 32 bit binary windows software on it.
So most people don't care so much I would say. They just buy something because it's cheap, to play games on and do things like patience, free cell and the basic things like word etc. There is so much technology to know about that at some point people don't care anymore. The next day there will always be newer and faster hardware.. Even when you only wanted to make a simple document. But then you have to use Vista (for some) so then you would need a faster computer..
Portabillity is only useful for people who don't want to keep buying software and are fed up with it. A very few of them make their hands dirty and migrate to open/free source software or start to write alternatives themselves. To those people these thing really matter. They want to make something durable and it simply takes time for software to mature. Portabillity of code really matters if there are more open source/ free software users and developers. Then people will experience the benefits of portable code.
It matters if you want people to learn OOP or functional programming.
Actionscript 2.0 (Macromedia Flash scripting language) is very good to learn OOP and a joy to work with.
It has only the most important OOP features and strong typing. The movieclip is a strange thing to a developer, but at the same time a joy. People have in no time graphics, sound and lot of other stuff. The effect is that newbe's can quickly have their program working. This makes them more enthousiastic to learn more.
One might say, why not Java? Well Java is a extremely large and complex language. I think it's just better to keep it a little more simpler. I think the complexity of Java is really underestimated. I think it even maybe more complex than C++. Newbe's may drown in it.
Functional programming can best be learned with a pure functional language, such as Haskell. The language is very strict and learns you good coding habits.
Yeah.. I envision the following future..
Bacteria that live on my chip and are capable of fixing bugs on the chip and have their DNA as open source. This way we could hack them to create real open source chip architecures....
That's a pity. Spanish is the second world language.. I think it's a pity that most programming languages aren't Spanish. At least it would be nice to see English people having trouble to speak Spanish..;-p
Well this is sure off topic, but for me very relevant:-), as I rather not tend to be blasfamous.
Yup it was a horrific typo... Edsger is my hero! The stack inventor, the goto killer, the one that thought mathemetical proof of correctness was a good idea (clearly the software industry failed to understand) and the brain behind program derivation, critical about the software industry, someone hwo had strong ideas (not being afraid of hitting holy houses). And so much more for deeper thoughts. He is truly one of the brighter lights who thought about quality and robustness and really focussed on the more important issues in computer science.
Ok buy your kid an expensive laptop. Vendors sure would like you to. Why?
1) They would sell more laptops
2) They would even sell more laptops after your kid has just spoiled some drink over it...
Why would you not buy a laptop for a kid?
1) You could learn them first using an old desktop and teach them how to deal with a delicate machine
2) Teach them good practices first: open source development.
I never really noticed how much noise my PC was making until IT finally turned it off, during a crash! I think it was the heatshield, after some discovery.
Ok it isn't worth mentioning because it's not rocket science (the Discovery is clearly rocket science..).
" Yes, I have put about 7 together from off the shelf parts from various sources - my last P4 2.8GHz cost me around £220 - it does have 2 fans but you cannot hear it in a normal living room",
Then why would it be worth mentioning this? Do you think it will help?
Frankly I don't think I was whining, I was just uttering criticism and criticism is something no community can thrive without.
I consider it whining because the discovery has nothing to do with the subject and I cannot see the contribution of you point at all..
Why do you assume I have never contributed
If you could just find the word "never", than you would finally made your point, wouldn't you?But even if there was no submission at all, I'd say that the event was important enough to warrant an article entirely by the editors themselves *shudders*
If you believe you could do a better job in moderating.. then why not become one?
None of them where using very powerfull configurations or were not so succesfull due to overheating.... All them are old (which is to some users a bad thing these days).. I am a proud owner of AppleII
You've made a good point. But the guy that started this thread considering the "discovery landed" was more important, didn't convice me completely. He could post this news to Slashdot himself. I never use slashdot to look for common subjects like silent pc (which refer to a standard/hi-end product). But that's just me. And me is not the center of the earth, which is just fine to me. It's to easy to start wining, that's all.
The times before refrigerators and computers and other electronic machinery, it was not silent...
And now with all the traffic noise or hifi sets at home, there's no need to feel scared by silence. You're in control.
If you are afraid you're not able to monitor the cooling, because there's no sound. Well, I got good news for you: there are things like bios which triggers an alarmfunction, or programs, thermometers and other stuff. If you want to directly hear the performance of your cooler, why would you need a silent pc in the first place? There aren't so many silent pc systems. So just buy the noisiest PC you're money can buy and feel pleased that there are so many....
If you would have news coverage of the Discovery landing succesfully, stop wining, you good actually do something about it yourselves!
Slashdot has a feature (a link) which enables you to submit news yourselves. You answer has (in my modest opinion) no relevance to this topic. You might as well could put this message as a reply on all the other topics as well..
In communities, these things doesn't work this way (at least not if you want something to be done) Communities thrive by contribution, so before you start complaining, at least contribute something!
Whining is only a solution for powerless babies who cannot speak.. So why should you?
I forgot to mention media computers for use in your living room.. You don't want to hear so much background noise while you are watching a movie or other stuff. A powerfull, small scaled, silent, fully equipped, good looking computer is key for entertainment system in your living room. There is actual quite a market for it, wouldn't you agree?
The more of these products hit the market, the cheaper they will become. If the prices become more reasonable for the average user, I can't see why people not want to buy a silent, well cooled, robust system.
There is a good reason to look for high quality cooled and silent PC's, quite the same as it is for better looking cases.
People who use studio's will be really glad not to bistracted by a noisy computer, and require ultimate background noise.
Some small office or home office users want can now use fileservers using very noisy scsi disks arrays and don't need a special room to place the severs in.
Especially for high spec workstations (not to mention high spec gaming gear) need rubust cooling. People who spend many many ours behind their machine, like the idea of a silent pc, which is optimally cooled.
If the article is tedious to you, it doesn't mean it is tedious to others. There are many types of users, and these kind of articles are not only meant to a niche. To me it is not tedious at all, I wish more of these products were available and I happily see the articles coming..
"Happy computing!"
Now I think Microsoft has a big problem... Now they really should start becoming innovative... And google finally could have a nice open source competitor.
This will increase innovation in giant leaps and ofcourse would make it hard for microsoft ever to beat Google.. This will be a worthy test of the power of open source!!!
I think most answers are soonding too much Microsoft, and too less realistic. Microsoft has flamed linux many times. Now because they noticed this is a poor way of making your point, and are not able to produce better products they suddenly start being polite. These shifts I do not trust at all.
People want results, lots of people want freedom, and some people innovation and good security. Microsoft seem to be good with words, it would be nice if they could simply deliver good stuff and were less milking their Monopoly.
Inside the opensource community people can change the code if they are not happy with the product. People know what they want and are reflective. I don't believe Microsoft could ever be so innovative, secure or stable simply because they lack the abillity to reflect, only total openness of code can bring bugs to daylight-> only totally open source can be measured for security and quality.
If the security or stabillity of linux would suck, at least people will say it, people will enlessly correct it, some people will passionately try to make it look better. Everything in Linux has top priority. All negative remarks will be heard. All opportunities are there to mold it to your needs or improve it for a larger audience.
I know I will never ever produce code for Microsoft, even if I got paid millions. It would be selling my soul to the devil. As an employee it would mean I could not say Microsoft still sucks. I would not work for a company with such bad imago. Never. I would rather would put trash my computer. Microsoft deserves it to get rejected by users and developers after it has (in my opinion) misused its monopoly position. It's time for a real "open" revolution. And when Microsoft is small again, then I will give them a second change if it were up to me. Then let them prove they can compete, since I have never seen them competing yet. Only losing or copying or holding back innovation (by claiming software patents).
Who would work for a company who claims a patent on smileys? Who wants to develop for such a company? Not me.
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Advertisers have no idea if people are actually listening to podcasts, or if they're just downloading them and never playing them back, so there's no guidance for pricing the accompanying ads. "Prices -- people have been making them up," he says.' Let's keep it that way. Now the advertizers know how to feel how it is to be cheated. Please.. Why not just podcasting for the joy of it.. Keep yous shows real and ban out all the advertisement and privacy problem shit. Lets keep up raising the prices for advertisers-> the more we will actually hear and see what we really want to hear and see. This message was sponsered by The Dump-Mental-Waste Company.. Please see our website at http://www.microsoft.com/
You right. But it also depends on what kind of bits for what kind of processor and how the innovation in software use (that affects the architecture of that processor) will be. I think before they will sell (never) 1024 bits "processors", there might be some qubits and quantum processors and a pletoria of different architectures in processors as well (if we haven't become backwards cavemen due to the centuries of patent-wars)..
How long the absence of wind will drain the battery and the wifi signal become weak.. Bye bye hosting my website?
That was the same joke I tried to make...LOL
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit: "A change from a 32-bit to a 64-bit architecture is a fundamental alteration, as most operating systems must be extensively modified to take advantage of the new architecture. Other software must also be ported to use the new capabilities; older software is usually supported through either a hardware compatibility mode (in which the new processors support an older 32-bit instruction set as well as the new modes), through software emulation, or by the actual implementation of a 32-bit processor core within the 64-bit processor die (as with the Itanium2 processors from Intel). One significant exception to this is the AS/400, whose software runs on a virtual ISA which is implemented in low-level software. This software, called TIMI, is all that has to be rewritten to move the entire OS and all software to a new platform, such as when IBM transitioned their line from 32-bit POWER to 64-bit POWER. While 64-bit architectures indisputably make working with huge data sets in applications such as digital video, scientific computing, and large databases easier, there has been considerable debate as to whether they or their 32-bit compatibility modes will be faster than comparably-priced 32-bit systems for other tasks. Theoretically, some programs could well be faster in 32-bit mode. Instructions for 64-bit computing take up more storage space than the earlier 32-bit ones, so it is possible that some 32-bit programs will fit into the CPU's high-speed cache while equivalent 64-bit programs will not. However, in applications like scientific computing, the data being processed often fits naturally in 64-bit chunks, and will be faster on a 64-bit architecture because the CPU will be designed to process such information directly rather than requiring the program to perform multiple steps. Such assessments are complicated by the fact that in the process of designing the new 64-bit architectures, the instruction set designers have also taken the opportunity to make other changes that address some of the deficiencies in older instruction sets by adding new performance-enhancing facilities (such as the extra registers in the AMD64 design)."
The hardware / software industry (generally speaking) doesn't care about quality, as long as they are so busy competing with eachother in a high pace. Because companies are competing they will seek some features others haven't and most fo the time the relevancy of those features is very small, especially if the company has become very big (exceptions of course are always there). The crowd isn't very picky either, though it is clear open source has put value to the development of portable software. People buy a amd64 (not only because of the price, ofcourse some geeks also for the 64 bit feature) but the majority runs still 32 bit binary windows software on it. So most people don't care so much I would say. They just buy something because it's cheap, to play games on and do things like patience, free cell and the basic things like word etc. There is so much technology to know about that at some point people don't care anymore. The next day there will always be newer and faster hardware.. Even when you only wanted to make a simple document. But then you have to use Vista (for some) so then you would need a faster computer.. Portabillity is only useful for people who don't want to keep buying software and are fed up with it. A very few of them make their hands dirty and migrate to open/free source software or start to write alternatives themselves. To those people these thing really matter. They want to make something durable and it simply takes time for software to mature. Portabillity of code really matters if there are more open source/ free software users and developers. Then people will experience the benefits of portable code.
Why not use windmills to power our computers coolingfans?
It matters if you want people to learn OOP or functional programming. Actionscript 2.0 (Macromedia Flash scripting language) is very good to learn OOP and a joy to work with. It has only the most important OOP features and strong typing. The movieclip is a strange thing to a developer, but at the same time a joy. People have in no time graphics, sound and lot of other stuff. The effect is that newbe's can quickly have their program working. This makes them more enthousiastic to learn more. One might say, why not Java? Well Java is a extremely large and complex language. I think it's just better to keep it a little more simpler. I think the complexity of Java is really underestimated. I think it even maybe more complex than C++. Newbe's may drown in it. Functional programming can best be learned with a pure functional language, such as Haskell. The language is very strict and learns you good coding habits.
First of all the website says: BlackDog offers open source developers an exciting new platform for mobilizing software applications. and then at the bottom of the website it says: © 2005 Realm Systems, Inc. The BlackDog Mobile Personal Server is proprietary technology developed by Realm Systems, Inc. and is patent pending. All Rights Reserved. As a open source developer I don't like software patents, that's why demonstrated in Strassbourg. What exactly is it that is patented here? I would buy such device if I don't have a answer like "no software is being patented". As a open source user I want to compile stuff and install a linux I prefer on that box. So how fast would a PowerPC 400Mhz compile while installing linux from source? Not that fast. It has the same power of a PDA and so it its performance is not comparable to an average pc. The price is very attractive, most PDA's are more expensive. Though it would be nice if it had a screen and a battery, some usb ports for mouse and keyboard so I could also use it standalone. Than it would be very portable. I see also there is officially support for linux and Window.. But how does the device work on MacOSX or FreeBSD?
How about security first? Now even aliens can hack the pentagon. ;-p
Yeah.. I envision the following future.. Bacteria that live on my chip and are capable of fixing bugs on the chip and have their DNA as open source. This way we could hack them to create real open source chip architecures....
That's a pity. Spanish is the second world language.. I think it's a pity that most programming languages aren't Spanish. At least it would be nice to see English people having trouble to speak Spanish.. ;-p
Well this is sure off topic, but for me very relevant :-), as I rather not tend to be blasfamous.
Yup it was a horrific typo... Edsger is my hero! The stack inventor, the goto killer, the one that thought mathemetical proof of correctness was a good idea (clearly the software industry failed to understand) and the brain behind program derivation, critical about the software industry, someone hwo had strong ideas (not being afraid of hitting holy houses). And so much more for deeper thoughts. He is truly one of the brighter lights who thought about quality and robustness and really focussed on the more important issues in computer science.
Ok buy your kid an expensive laptop. Vendors sure would like you to. Why? 1) They would sell more laptops 2) They would even sell more laptops after your kid has just spoiled some drink over it... Why would you not buy a laptop for a kid? 1) You could learn them first using an old desktop and teach them how to deal with a delicate machine 2) Teach them good practices first: open source development.
I never really noticed how much noise my PC was making until IT finally turned it off, during a crash! I think it was the heatshield, after some discovery.
Ok it isn't worth mentioning because it's not rocket science (the Discovery is clearly rocket science..). " Yes, I have put about 7 together from off the shelf parts from various sources - my last P4 2.8GHz cost me around £220 - it does have 2 fans but you cannot hear it in a normal living room", Then why would it be worth mentioning this? Do you think it will help?
Frankly I don't think I was whining, I was just uttering criticism and criticism is something no community can thrive without. I consider it whining because the discovery has nothing to do with the subject and I cannot see the contribution of you point at all.. Why do you assume I have never contributed If you could just find the word "never", than you would finally made your point, wouldn't you? But even if there was no submission at all, I'd say that the event was important enough to warrant an article entirely by the editors themselves *shudders* If you believe you could do a better job in moderating.. then why not become one?
None of them where using very powerfull configurations or were not so succesfull due to overheating.... All them are old (which is to some users a bad thing these days).. I am a proud owner of AppleII
You've made a good point. But the guy that started this thread considering the "discovery landed" was more important, didn't convice me completely. He could post this news to Slashdot himself. I never use slashdot to look for common subjects like silent pc (which refer to a standard/hi-end product). But that's just me. And me is not the center of the earth, which is just fine to me. It's to easy to start wining, that's all.
The times before refrigerators and computers and other electronic machinery, it was not silent... And now with all the traffic noise or hifi sets at home, there's no need to feel scared by silence. You're in control. If you are afraid you're not able to monitor the cooling, because there's no sound. Well, I got good news for you: there are things like bios which triggers an alarmfunction, or programs, thermometers and other stuff. If you want to directly hear the performance of your cooler, why would you need a silent pc in the first place? There aren't so many silent pc systems. So just buy the noisiest PC you're money can buy and feel pleased that there are so many....
If you would have news coverage of the Discovery landing succesfully, stop wining, you good actually do something about it yourselves! Slashdot has a feature (a link) which enables you to submit news yourselves. You answer has (in my modest opinion) no relevance to this topic. You might as well could put this message as a reply on all the other topics as well.. In communities, these things doesn't work this way (at least not if you want something to be done) Communities thrive by contribution, so before you start complaining, at least contribute something! Whining is only a solution for powerless babies who cannot speak.. So why should you?
I forgot to mention media computers for use in your living room.. You don't want to hear so much background noise while you are watching a movie or other stuff. A powerfull, small scaled, silent, fully equipped, good looking computer is key for entertainment system in your living room. There is actual quite a market for it, wouldn't you agree? The more of these products hit the market, the cheaper they will become. If the prices become more reasonable for the average user, I can't see why people not want to buy a silent, well cooled, robust system.
There is a good reason to look for high quality cooled and silent PC's, quite the same as it is for better looking cases. People who use studio's will be really glad not to bistracted by a noisy computer, and require ultimate background noise. Some small office or home office users want can now use fileservers using very noisy scsi disks arrays and don't need a special room to place the severs in. Especially for high spec workstations (not to mention high spec gaming gear) need rubust cooling. People who spend many many ours behind their machine, like the idea of a silent pc, which is optimally cooled. If the article is tedious to you, it doesn't mean it is tedious to others. There are many types of users, and these kind of articles are not only meant to a niche. To me it is not tedious at all, I wish more of these products were available and I happily see the articles coming.. "Happy computing!"
Now I think Microsoft has a big problem... Now they really should start becoming innovative... And google finally could have a nice open source competitor. This will increase innovation in giant leaps and ofcourse would make it hard for microsoft ever to beat Google.. This will be a worthy test of the power of open source!!!
I think most answers are soonding too much Microsoft, and too less realistic. Microsoft has flamed linux many times. Now because they noticed this is a poor way of making your point, and are not able to produce better products they suddenly start being polite. These shifts I do not trust at all. People want results, lots of people want freedom, and some people innovation and good security. Microsoft seem to be good with words, it would be nice if they could simply deliver good stuff and were less milking their Monopoly. Inside the opensource community people can change the code if they are not happy with the product. People know what they want and are reflective. I don't believe Microsoft could ever be so innovative, secure or stable simply because they lack the abillity to reflect, only total openness of code can bring bugs to daylight-> only totally open source can be measured for security and quality. If the security or stabillity of linux would suck, at least people will say it, people will enlessly correct it, some people will passionately try to make it look better. Everything in Linux has top priority. All negative remarks will be heard. All opportunities are there to mold it to your needs or improve it for a larger audience. I know I will never ever produce code for Microsoft, even if I got paid millions. It would be selling my soul to the devil. As an employee it would mean I could not say Microsoft still sucks. I would not work for a company with such bad imago. Never. I would rather would put trash my computer. Microsoft deserves it to get rejected by users and developers after it has (in my opinion) misused its monopoly position. It's time for a real "open" revolution. And when Microsoft is small again, then I will give them a second change if it were up to me. Then let them prove they can compete, since I have never seen them competing yet. Only losing or copying or holding back innovation (by claiming software patents). Who would work for a company who claims a patent on smileys? Who wants to develop for such a company? Not me.