Does the war on insert noun here in question render law enforcement immune to the law?
Imagine NSA setting up an FBI agent using a drugs for credit card numbers sting, and an FBI agent hooking an NSA agent in a credit card numbers for drugs sting.
If so, what happens if each agency simultaneously deems they have enough evidence to prosecute? Should the respective agents be prosecuted?
Seems like the law should apply equally to all of us.
I'm not sure which TEA party you are referring to. Most polling/writing/protesting I've seen shows my fellow TEA partyiers either don't care, or they share my desire to see gay people treated the same as the rest of us.
"Democrats and Republicans are just two sides of the same coin. I don't look at the party affiliation, I look at the way a particular candidate stands on particular issues. The biggest problem with the current political climate is that individual Congresscritters are mostly afraid to go against their party on any issues."
Amen, I couldn't have said it better myself.
My statement regarding Democrats, Republicans and TEA partiers I thought was an obvious over-simplification.
I think at the end of the day, the parties are important from the standpoint of checks and balances. To me the most important thing is to not have one party in complete control. We need at least the House, Senate or Executive to be controlled by an opposition party. My fear is that Obama will get blown out and the Democrats will lose the Senate and we'll be back to one party control. Of course given the sad state of the Republican presidential field my fears are probably over blown.
Anyway, thanks for the conversation Zero. I like the challenge of intelligent conversation.
I don't remember hearing about Rands abortion position, do you have a link? That being said, abortion is a dead issue for me right now compared to the nightmare of our current political class.
We the people, aka "the TEA party" are the most effective and influential political force right now. Are you trying to say the TEA party doesn't have influence, or value Liberty, which were my initial points? Are you arguing for more government control of our lives? Think it through man. Democrats = government control, Republicans = Stupid. TEA Party = crazy. I know which way I'm voting.
Amen. The emperor has no clothes. Why would you vote party when a vote for an American check and balance will suffice? Didn't we have like a bunch of parties b4 we had to choose between only 2?
I choose Taxed Enough Already.
Why should I have to pay for deadbeats?
I'm always glad to give to the needy.
I prefer a system with a policy of giving my money to the truly needy. 'Cause the parasites are parasites.
I hear name calling, "You are naive" but nothing factual. Which TEA party isn't grass roots? Who is funding them if they aren't grass roots? Those would be excellent facts to back up your assertations.
Did I hear you say according to your assertions that Rand Paul is ultra conservative far right?
The TEA party was effective in Utah, Wisconsin, Florida just to name a few locations. Just because you haven't been paying attention, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
I disagree that not much changed in Washington, first and foremost out of control spending is now front and center in the national debate. The TEA party also won several Senate victories besides Kentucky, and there hasn't been a house sweep that large in quite a while. Utah and Wisconsin come immediatelt to mind for Senate victories. I have no data to argue with your point regarding the effectiveness of the candidates now that they are in office, and I suspect they will become corrupted by the system to a certain extent. That being said, to dismiss the TEA party candidates as kooks is to remain confined to the very system you decry. Anyone with the ideas necessary to reform the corporate owned political class is going to seem out of the mainstream. But it is that mainstream that has become extreme, not the grass roots which stand against it.
I should have clarified my historic proportions statement: At the state level, there has never been party turn over on the scale we saw in the last election. This includes not only governors, but legislatures also. Unfortunately the phenomena appears to be limited to Republican candidates for now, but I am hopeful something similar will form on the left side of the aisle as well, or that Democrats will start embracing the values of individual liberty and limited government which the TEA party stands for.
Dismissing the TEA party as ineffective is to ignore the facts.
On a side note, you will never convince me that growing up is anything other than overated:D
"teabaggers never become more than a giant joke." ROFL. Your ignorance is showing. Last election cycle was a historic blowout, fueled primarily by by the TEA partry, which right now is the most powerful force in American Politics. It's rolled over decades old incumbants, unions, conservatives, liberals and has also served to drastically change the conversation towards what We the People believe is important, our freedom. It's also true grass roots, unlike the paid astroturf deployed against it. You can call us names all you want, it won't affect the facts. It does serve to highlight YOUR ignorance though.
There is definitely money buying politicians, they much resemble the first oldest profession in that regard. They may buy them, but in the U.S., We the People have the votes to hire and fire them. And we DID. The incumbent turnover rate was phenomenal last election cycle. Let's keep it up.
I don't think we're at the "Game Over Man" point. Not by far.
TEA Party anyone? Seems to be quite popular for some reason.
You might try youtubing Rand Paul, of Kentucky no less. The Libertarians are afoot, and we are legion.
I love what he said about the government limiting our choices in the marketplace. To paraphrase, "Why can't I buy a dish washer that doesn't take 3 hours to partially wash the dishes?"
This just seems like basic business sense: don't enter into unprofitable agreements
Exactly.
Groupon is like any other tool. Use at your OWN risk.
People cut stuff of their bodies with power tools. That doesn't make power tools bad.
I like the Idea of an Intel CPU, if it is manufactured in the United States. I'd really like the idea if the entire phone were able to be fabbed in the united States. As a US Citizen in a post Stuxnet world, the Country of Origin, for the devices in which I entrust the details of my life, has become an issue for me.
Agreed. It's not like this was hard to see coming. The Internet has been a business engine for a couple of decades now. IPv4 addresses have value now that the rules of supply and demand are coming into play. If IPv6 didn't have significant issues, it would have been widely deployed by now. The chicken and egg questions of how pure IPv6 customers can interact with the IPv4 Internet, and whether or not billions of people will be easily convinced to replace their existing routers, creates a market for IPv4 address space.
Actually I'd say a better case exists for capitalism as a source of exploration. The East India Trading Company funded much expansion with private investment. As did the California Gold Rush. Few uninvolved taxpayers were forced to pay for either of these expeditions.
If there's gold in them thar orbits, we should see capital expansion into earth orbit soon.
Live long and PROSPER.
Why buy devices locked to proprietary standards and licensing? I'd bet a six pack of micro brew the most open market will win the most customers. Android anyone?
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Does the war on insert noun here in question render law enforcement immune to the law?
Imagine NSA setting up an FBI agent using a drugs for credit card numbers sting, and an FBI agent hooking an NSA agent in a credit card numbers for drugs sting.
If so, what happens if each agency simultaneously deems they have enough evidence to prosecute? Should the respective agents be prosecuted?
Seems like the law should apply equally to all of us.
The worst Pirate you've ever heard of... Of course she's attaining her own goals.
Holy Shit, can she score goals or what.
Not in Chicago apparently.
LoL! I wonder how many post on /.?
Amen. There are those who talk and think, but fail to do, and those who can turn ideas into stuff that people can use.
Both are important, but poetry interpretation has so far been impossible to render tangible enough to be sold to any but students of thought.
Liberal Arts Programs will be fine. There's one born every minute.
...from the Chinese Segments of the Internet?
If so, progress has been made. If not, paranoia runs deep.
Paranoid, or not paranoid enough?
I'm not sure which TEA party you are referring to. Most polling/writing/protesting I've seen shows my fellow TEA partyiers either don't care, or they share my desire to see gay people treated the same as the rest of us.
"Democrats and Republicans are just two sides of the same coin. I don't look at the party affiliation, I look at the way a particular candidate stands on particular issues. The biggest problem with the current political climate is that individual Congresscritters are mostly afraid to go against their party on any issues."
Amen, I couldn't have said it better myself.
My statement regarding Democrats, Republicans and TEA partiers I thought was an obvious over-simplification.
I think at the end of the day, the parties are important from the standpoint of checks and balances. To me the most important thing is to not have one party in complete control. We need at least the House, Senate or Executive to be controlled by an opposition party. My fear is that Obama will get blown out and the Democrats will lose the Senate and we'll be back to one party control. Of course given the sad state of the Republican presidential field my fears are probably over blown.
Anyway, thanks for the conversation Zero. I like the challenge of intelligent conversation.
I don't remember hearing about Rands abortion position, do you have a link? That being said, abortion is a dead issue for me right now compared to the nightmare of our current political class.
We the people, aka "the TEA party" are the most effective and influential political force right now. Are you trying to say the TEA party doesn't have influence, or value Liberty, which were my initial points? Are you arguing for more government control of our lives? Think it through man. Democrats = government control, Republicans = Stupid. TEA Party = crazy. I know which way I'm voting.
Results matter, and we've been getting them.
Amen. The emperor has no clothes. Why would you vote party when a vote for an American check and balance will suffice? Didn't we have like a bunch of parties b4 we had to choose between only 2?
I choose Taxed Enough Already.
Why should I have to pay for deadbeats?
I'm always glad to give to the needy.
I prefer a system with a policy of giving my money to the truly needy. 'Cause the parasites are parasites.
No shit, what's up with that?!?
I wonder what Rand "libertarian" Paul has to say about this?
I hear name calling, "You are naive" but nothing factual. Which TEA party isn't grass roots? Who is funding them if they aren't grass roots? Those would be excellent facts to back up your assertations.
Did I hear you say according to your assertions that Rand Paul is ultra conservative far right?
The TEA party was effective in Utah, Wisconsin, Florida just to name a few locations. Just because you haven't been paying attention, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
I disagree that not much changed in Washington, first and foremost out of control spending is now front and center in the national debate. The TEA party also won several Senate victories besides Kentucky, and there hasn't been a house sweep that large in quite a while. Utah and Wisconsin come immediatelt to mind for Senate victories. I have no data to argue with your point regarding the effectiveness of the candidates now that they are in office, and I suspect they will become corrupted by the system to a certain extent. That being said, to dismiss the TEA party candidates as kooks is to remain confined to the very system you decry. Anyone with the ideas necessary to reform the corporate owned political class is going to seem out of the mainstream. But it is that mainstream that has become extreme, not the grass roots which stand against it.
:D
I should have clarified my historic proportions statement: At the state level, there has never been party turn over on the scale we saw in the last election. This includes not only governors, but legislatures also. Unfortunately the phenomena appears to be limited to Republican candidates for now, but I am hopeful something similar will form on the left side of the aisle as well, or that Democrats will start embracing the values of individual liberty and limited government which the TEA party stands for.
Dismissing the TEA party as ineffective is to ignore the facts.
On a side note, you will never convince me that growing up is anything other than overated
"teabaggers never become more than a giant joke." ROFL. Your ignorance is showing. Last election cycle was a historic blowout, fueled primarily by by the TEA partry, which right now is the most powerful force in American Politics. It's rolled over decades old incumbants, unions, conservatives, liberals and has also served to drastically change the conversation towards what We the People believe is important, our freedom. It's also true grass roots, unlike the paid astroturf deployed against it. You can call us names all you want, it won't affect the facts. It does serve to highlight YOUR ignorance though.
There is definitely money buying politicians, they much resemble the first oldest profession in that regard. They may buy them, but in the U.S., We the People have the votes to hire and fire them. And we DID. The incumbent turnover rate was phenomenal last election cycle. Let's keep it up.
:D
I don't think we're at the "Game Over Man" point. Not by far.
TEA Party anyone? Seems to be quite popular for some reason.
You might try youtubing Rand Paul, of Kentucky no less. The Libertarians are afoot, and we are legion.
I love what he said about the government limiting our choices in the marketplace. To paraphrase, "Why can't I buy a dish washer that doesn't take 3 hours to partially wash the dishes?"
Amen, pass the moonshine
Off of their bodies even. Someday my proofreading skills will develop.
This just seems like basic business sense: don't enter into unprofitable agreements
Exactly.
Groupon is like any other tool. Use at your OWN risk.
People cut stuff of their bodies with power tools. That doesn't make power tools bad.
I like the Idea of an Intel CPU, if it is manufactured in the United States. I'd really like the idea if the entire phone were able to be fabbed in the united States. As a US Citizen in a post Stuxnet world, the Country of Origin, for the devices in which I entrust the details of my life, has become an issue for me.
Paranoid, or not paranoid enough?
Agreed. It's not like this was hard to see coming. The Internet has been a business engine for a couple of decades now. IPv4 addresses have value now that the rules of supply and demand are coming into play. If IPv6 didn't have significant issues, it would have been widely deployed by now. The chicken and egg questions of how pure IPv6 customers can interact with the IPv4 Internet, and whether or not billions of people will be easily convinced to replace their existing routers, creates a market for IPv4 address space.
LoL!! Mod +1 funny if I could... Might be a little old for most of /. though.
Actually I'd say a better case exists for capitalism as a source of exploration. The East India Trading Company funded much expansion with private investment. As did the California Gold Rush. Few uninvolved taxpayers were forced to pay for either of these expeditions.
If there's gold in them thar orbits, we should see capital expansion into earth orbit soon.
Live long and PROSPER.
Why buy devices locked to proprietary standards and licensing? I'd bet a six pack of micro brew the most open market will win the most customers. Android anyone?
Way to read the fine print folks :D