they will simply show youtube content and so will line Google bottom line. They can try and create content outside the Google ecosystem but we know where that went with apple maps.
I remember TV being about well Movies and Soaps and Scu-fi, Dramas, Reality shows etc etc Internet Video is just part of that...and exists outside Google and youtube [albeit very successful], the reality is Google will simply integrate their services inside whatever platform is dominant...its ecosystem is OS agnostic.
Ironically Apple not only removed Google Maps it removed the link to youtube...nobody made such a big deal about youtube.
Its not often I criticise another poster for extreme ignorance but do not waste my time or your own with a unrelated link dated the start of 2012...that pre-dates the rise of the smaller tablets the Nexus 7; Fire and Ipad Mini who outsell the iPad. The fact that Apple had ealy success with a larger tablet does not refute its sales are being cannibalised by also the outdated iPad mini.
I'm going to use my words more carefully. as you have yours. Apple is in an *interesting* position right now with its best product launches behind it, and Steve Jobs failed to spend any of the money on building Apple a competitor to Amazon (retail sales); Google (Search); Microsoft (License its OS); Facebook (Social Network)...[its mumbling something a TV's and watches!?..don't we have those] and had enough cash on hand to have a dog in all those races...but other than geting ino Advertising [without Seach or Social] its made no [serious]acquisitions [okey its bought patents but who hasn't].
Now Its PC [I should say Mac] sales are down, Its iPod sales are gone [last quarter], Its Smartphones and tablets are suffering [its hurting them in their profit margins] from losing market share, as he market matures they have all the earlier adopter money. Now tablets have another problem...and its not that the iPad mini is selling badly, its *replacing* sales of iPad 4, which is going to hurt its profit margin yet again. Ignoring the usual boom and bust of Apple. Its best years are behind it.
...but as I said Apples problem is not an unsuccessful Ipad mini its a successful one.
I love my netbook(s). I think vendors just got scared once they realized that people could do most everything they needed with a sub-$200 device, that was competing with tablets.
What a load of nonsense, Stop quoting Apple propaganda of why they are allowed to overcharge their customers because of good old fashioned branding its a failing stratergy in a maturing market...ask its ex-shareholders, when other companies compete of price; innovation and diverse product lines.
The sad fact is the companies who cripples the netbook by limiting their specifications was Intel and Microsoft [ironically as Microsoft produces a spiritual successor to the netbook the Surface...and shit on its OEMs saying they weren't innovative enough. Please!]
The Irony of your post is [read the damn header] its about ASUS dropping the netbook, yet is famous for redefining the tablet market with killer hardware on lower margins...aiming for mass market adoption....that's right the Nexus 7.
The reason why this Betteridge gets quoted is so many articles, are basically "pop politics" or other [mildly] controversial opinions...on the internet we call the click bait/troll articles is what passed for real news these days. This is not one of those articles its in response to major manufactures, including the company that brought the form factor to market are simply not making them any more. The bottom line is there are still netbooks around...and their spiritual successors tablets/ultrabooks/surface, but If I has to give a one word answer is would be as resounding YES!!!
Apple didn't forget it, it's just they have painted themselves into a corner. With no new magic products of any significance to pick up....
...seriously are you kidding me, Steve Jobs was simply wrong. Apple launched the iPad mini Late though incompetence or profit chasing [I think both]with a overpriced/underspecced product its a saturated and proven small tablet market of great innovative products [I own the Nexus 7] it was the first time I have seem news sites compare an Apple product. Apple is now just another electronics company and this product refresh was its turning point.
For instance AppleTV works very nicely for me with all my devices to the TV
The trouble with Apple products is the "just fail" when mixed with any technology other than their own "massively overpriced". None of it uses industry standards, which they think they can just ignore. The reality is there other solutions like uPnP/DNLA, but I wired solution gets rid of the middle man. The reality is a $1 cable works better than *ANY* Apple solution.
Not so right about the form factor though. The 7" tablet seems to have become the dominant one, without people filing down their fingers:), although attributing Everything to Steve Jobs without acknowledging the natural progression of technology, or what happened before it is ridiculous, or the other people who worked on the iPad. The most remarkable thing about the iPad at launch was its price:) something Apple seem to have forgotten.
Drop those full size USB ports, and add a (micro) SD card slot.
I have used full sized usb on a tablet it was the buisness [Toshiba Thrive has one]. Everything I own that plugs into my computer uses Full Sized USB...I'd love the same functionality on my tablet...As well as Several SD card slots..The dimensions that matter are already fixed, 7" [The iPad mini is too big] how thin it is does not matter so much [within reason]. SD and Full sized USB are not mutually exclusive.
Google this year were going to announce [pre hurricane] some good value Chromebooks, but decided to push its Nexus range with its 4,7,10 instead...and it was a good move. We know that the Chromebook next year is coming with touchscreen [and I suspect Android compatibility], so I suspect Google will not push Chrome until then, and I suspect we are going to see it more as a Google Docs device or whatever they market it as.
I gave serious consideration to the iPads, Nexus, et al, but in the end I need a machine which doesn't limit what I can do.
Your seriously going to mention a $1000 next to a $200, that is completely different form factor. I bought a nexus 7 because it didn't limit me like the Air notice it now can run Ubuntu and WebOS as well as Stock Android, that does not sound limiting to me...and I can buy 5 for the price of the macbook air...no wonder people have stopped buying them.
That is called competition and its why Apple logo is not selling computers anymore. Apple had their best quarter in 5 years and only sold 1 in 20 computers that has since has dropped, its market share for phones has dropped from a high of 23% now down to 14.9 and tablets have hit 50% hard. Its market cap had the value of 12 Dell companies wiped off its market cap in three months.
The reality is now that tablets; smartphones are simply commodity products, and its products are neither innovative or unique. It has to compete like everybody else...and that is price [and product range] as its high mark-ups become unsustainable . Seriously a macbook air...with its low resolution screen that costs the same as 5 nexus tablets they are out of touch.
As for the touch being Unix...seriously that old chestnut, Android is too I suppose??
No we do not. We don't think simply because its a ARM instead of X86 changes my mind in the slightest. Its still an abuse of its desktop monopoly. To be fair Windows on ARM is simply long overdue.
The short answer is the EFF and the FSF have *always* argued both should be open, but just because you give a desktop OS touch-screen capabilities does not make it a tablet OS. The reality is Surface is a reflection of what the whole market is going to look like...locked down electronics devices.
Hold on while I install OSX on my x86 box... oh wait, their software's locked...
...but not their hardware. I have thought for years that Apple should have licensed OSX out to OEMs, rather that have a dull duopoly that suited both companies, and we know why they don't, Their [commodity] hardware looks incredibly expensive compared to the opposition. Its Why Steve Jobs used to argue apple was a software company...now its an electronics company., but on-topic yeah not the same thing.
Since when was the iPad a Desktop computer. I'm sorry but Apple should not get a free pass. I think the iPad should be open...so the possibility of installing windows 8 on is a possibility, but that's that discussion not this one:) I agree there is some convergence of technology both hardware and software, but they are different markets, Microsoft does not get a free pass because its Desktop Computer has some touch-screen capability.
Are those Metro Apps, or are they just Windows Applications sold through a store front with Like Apple and Ubuntu do. Although I do despise the Microsoft Marketing term *ecosystem* especially when Windows Application do no work on your Phone. The bottom line is comparing Windows Phone apps to those of iOS and Android is a joke. Windows Phone has been out for two years already.
Because its about locking the computing market into Microsoft [with hardware], by making commodity components only work with Microsoft. Right now their is no technical barrier between moving between OS's. I would never be using Linux if it simply did not work on standard hardware. Its taking Lock-in to a whole new level...but I suspect you know that. The sad fact is its bad for everyone, Look at how Internet Explorer worked out.
I'm assuming that the same folks that root iPhones and Android phones, and seemingly every other bit of hardware on the planet will defeat this pretty fast as well. So yeah, let's buy up all of those cheap MicroSoft tablets and install Cyanogenmod!
Apart from its not a real solution to those of us who use commodity hardware to run Linux. Its simply monopolistic abuse.
I reckon it will take some bright spark 6 months to figure out a way round this.
A work around in not a real solution, and is criminal, The reality is the world we live in has changed, DMCA abuse is real. EFF managed to get a reprieve on the iPhones(like you need another reason not to buy Apples stuff)...but failed to get one for the iPad. Pretending its a *real solution is just a lie*, Linux is not a hacker project, ask Red Hat.
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they will simply show youtube content and so will line Google bottom line. They can try and create content outside the Google ecosystem but we know where that went with apple maps.
I remember TV being about well Movies and Soaps and Scu-fi, Dramas, Reality shows etc etc Internet Video is just part of that...and exists outside Google and youtube [albeit very successful], the reality is Google will simply integrate their services inside whatever platform is dominant...its ecosystem is OS agnostic.
Ironically Apple not only removed Google Maps it removed the link to youtube...nobody made such a big deal about youtube.
Apple has sold 100 million iPads in less than 2 years.. While I would prefer a 7" tablet, it seems like a large market thinks 10" is fine.
Its not often I criticise another poster for extreme ignorance but do not waste my time or your own with a unrelated link dated the start of 2012...that pre-dates the rise of the smaller tablets the Nexus 7; Fire and Ipad Mini who outsell the iPad. The fact that Apple had ealy success with a larger tablet does not refute its sales are being cannibalised by also the outdated iPad mini.
Buyers not buying Apple, in droves
I'm going to use my words more carefully. as you have yours. Apple is in an *interesting* position right now with its best product launches behind it, and Steve Jobs failed to spend any of the money on building Apple a competitor to Amazon (retail sales); Google (Search); Microsoft (License its OS); Facebook (Social Network)...[its mumbling something a TV's and watches!?..don't we have those] and had enough cash on hand to have a dog in all those races...but other than geting ino Advertising [without Seach or Social] its made no [serious]acquisitions [okey its bought patents but who hasn't].
Now Its PC [I should say Mac] sales are down, Its iPod sales are gone [last quarter], Its Smartphones and tablets are suffering [its hurting them in their profit margins] from losing market share, as he market matures they have all the earlier adopter money. Now tablets have another problem...and its not that the iPad mini is selling badly, its *replacing* sales of iPad 4, which is going to hurt its profit margin yet again. Ignoring the usual boom and bust of Apple. Its best years are behind it.
I love my netbook(s). I think vendors just got scared once they realized that people could do most everything they needed with a sub-$200 device, that was competing with tablets.
What a load of nonsense, Stop quoting Apple propaganda of why they are allowed to overcharge their customers because of good old fashioned branding its a failing stratergy in a maturing market...ask its ex-shareholders, when other companies compete of price; innovation and diverse product lines.
The sad fact is the companies who cripples the netbook by limiting their specifications was Intel and Microsoft [ironically as Microsoft produces a spiritual successor to the netbook the Surface...and shit on its OEMs saying they weren't innovative enough. Please!]
The Irony of your post is [read the damn header] its about ASUS dropping the netbook, yet is famous for redefining the tablet market with killer hardware on lower margins...aiming for mass market adoption....that's right the Nexus 7.
The reason why this Betteridge gets quoted is so many articles, are basically "pop politics" or other [mildly] controversial opinions...on the internet we call the click bait/troll articles is what passed for real news these days. This is not one of those articles its in response to major manufactures, including the company that brought the form factor to market are simply not making them any more. The bottom line is there are still netbooks around...and their spiritual successors tablets/ultrabooks/surface, but If I has to give a one word answer is would be as resounding YES!!!
Apple didn't forget it, it's just they have painted themselves into a corner. With no new magic products of any significance to pick up....
...seriously are you kidding me, Steve Jobs was simply wrong. Apple launched the iPad mini Late though incompetence or profit chasing [I think both]with a overpriced/underspecced product its a saturated and proven small tablet market of great innovative products [I own the Nexus 7] it was the first time I have seem news sites compare an Apple product. Apple is now just another electronics company and this product refresh was its turning point.
Let us all know when you have any actual numbers on 7" tablets. From any vendor.
This is just one story http://www.businessinsider.com/ipad-mini-sales-2012-12 even Apples own Mini is outselling the iPad 4, and its not like the Googles and Amazon 7" tablets are particularly secret.
For instance AppleTV works very nicely for me with all my devices to the TV
The trouble with Apple products is the "just fail" when mixed with any technology other than their own "massively overpriced". None of it uses industry standards, which they think they can just ignore. The reality is there other solutions like uPnP/DNLA, but I wired solution gets rid of the middle man. The reality is a $1 cable works better than *ANY* Apple solution.
Not so right about the form factor though. The 7" tablet seems to have become the dominant one, without people filing down their fingers :), although attributing Everything to Steve Jobs without acknowledging the natural progression of technology, or what happened before it is ridiculous, or the other people who worked on the iPad. The most remarkable thing about the iPad at launch was its price :) something Apple seem to have forgotten.
Drop those full size USB ports, and add a (micro) SD card slot.
I have used full sized usb on a tablet it was the buisness [Toshiba Thrive has one]. Everything I own that plugs into my computer uses Full Sized USB...I'd love the same functionality on my tablet...As well as Several SD card slots..The dimensions that matter are already fixed, 7" [The iPad mini is too big] how thin it is does not matter so much [within reason]. SD and Full sized USB are not mutually exclusive.
Google this year were going to announce [pre hurricane] some good value Chromebooks, but decided to push its Nexus range with its 4,7,10 instead...and it was a good move. We know that the Chromebook next year is coming with touchscreen [and I suspect Android compatibility], so I suspect Google will not push Chrome until then, and I suspect we are going to see it more as a Google Docs device or whatever they market it as.
My next purchase will be an 11" Macbook Air.
I gave serious consideration to the iPads, Nexus, et al, but
in the end I need a machine which doesn't limit what I can do.
Your seriously going to mention a $1000 next to a $200, that is completely different form factor. I bought a nexus 7 because it didn't limit me like the Air notice it now can run Ubuntu and WebOS as well as Stock Android, that does not sound limiting to me...and I can buy 5 for the price of the macbook air...no wonder people have stopped buying them.
racing to the bottom of every market.
That is called competition and its why Apple logo is not selling computers anymore. Apple had their best quarter in 5 years and only sold 1 in 20 computers that has since has dropped, its market share for phones has dropped from a high of 23% now down to 14.9 and tablets have hit 50% hard. Its market cap had the value of 12 Dell companies wiped off its market cap in three months.
The reality is now that tablets; smartphones are simply commodity products, and its products are neither innovative or unique. It has to compete like everybody else...and that is price [and product range] as its high mark-ups become unsustainable . Seriously a macbook air...with its low resolution screen that costs the same as 5 nexus tablets they are out of touch.
As for the touch being Unix...seriously that old chestnut, Android is too I suppose??
>Some how they are using their monopoly power to force users to by a product in a market currently owned by iOS and Android devices? Bullshit.
...Absolutely in a none too subtle manner.
Linux is almost as bad as being locked down to only run Windows.
Absolutely, but the Surface is not a tablet simply because it has some tablet like capability.
You missed the point.
No we do not. We don't think simply because its a ARM instead of X86 changes my mind in the slightest. Its still an abuse of its desktop monopoly. To be fair Windows on ARM is simply long overdue.
I cannot install Android on my WP8(sic) either, this is OUTRAGE.
Absolutely right. The point is you should have the Option :)
The short answer is the EFF and the FSF have *always* argued both should be open, but just because you give a desktop OS touch-screen capabilities does not make it a tablet OS. The reality is Surface is a reflection of what the whole market is going to look like...locked down electronics devices.
Hold on while I install OSX on my x86 box... oh wait, their software's locked...
...but not their hardware. I have thought for years that Apple should have licensed OSX out to OEMs, rather that have a dull duopoly that suited both companies, and we know why they don't, Their [commodity] hardware looks incredibly expensive compared to the opposition. Its Why Steve Jobs used to argue apple was a software company...now its an electronics company., but on-topic yeah not the same thing.
Since when can you install Linux on an iPad?
Since when was the iPad a Desktop computer. I'm sorry but Apple should not get a free pass. I think the iPad should be open...so the possibility of installing windows 8 on is a possibility, but that's that discussion not this one :) I agree there is some convergence of technology both hardware and software, but they are different markets, Microsoft does not get a free pass because its Desktop Computer has some touch-screen capability.
Ms is hardly desperate for developes.
Are those Metro Apps, or are they just Windows Applications sold through a store front with Like Apple and Ubuntu do. Although I do despise the Microsoft Marketing term *ecosystem* especially when Windows Application do no work on your Phone. The bottom line is comparing Windows Phone apps to those of iOS and Android is a joke. Windows Phone has been out for two years already.
I can't understand the train of logic here.
Because its about locking the computing market into Microsoft [with hardware], by making commodity components only work with Microsoft. Right now their is no technical barrier between moving between OS's. I would never be using Linux if it simply did not work on standard hardware. Its taking Lock-in to a whole new level...but I suspect you know that. The sad fact is its bad for everyone, Look at how Internet Explorer worked out.
I'm assuming that the same folks that root iPhones and Android phones, and seemingly every other bit of hardware on the planet will defeat this pretty fast as well. So yeah, let's buy up all of those cheap MicroSoft tablets and install Cyanogenmod!
Apart from its not a real solution to those of us who use commodity hardware to run Linux. Its simply monopolistic abuse.
I reckon it will take some bright spark 6 months to figure out a way round this.
A work around in not a real solution, and is criminal, The reality is the world we live in has changed, DMCA abuse is real. EFF managed to get a reprieve on the iPhones(like you need another reason not to buy Apples stuff)...but failed to get one for the iPad. Pretending its a *real solution is just a lie*, Linux is not a hacker project, ask Red Hat.
It won't significantly impact their sales
Judging by there current sales you would think they need every sale to count. Perhaps a third party OEM will do hardware right.