Casual computer users don't define the market...Nintendo experienced this pretty hard with the Wii
I'm absolutely certain that Casual computer users are defining the market, which is why we have moved from general purpose computers, which are powerful, flexible, useful to to closed garden, electronics, Apple are already there, Windows will be there next release, Linux is well...trying to be all things. As for Nintendo have still outsold PS3 and Xbox 360 and look to be the first to refresh their product line, and sold an amazing expensive peripherals, make a profit on every unit sold, and their first party software has legs.
I'm not really sure of your point, but I'm certain its wrong.
Expensive hardware has been dead for a while. That's why Apple had such disappointing preorders of the new iPhone and has been lagging behind Samsung in tablet sell-through.
Or, maybe not.
Apples market share in Tablets has been dropping rapidly for some time, and even the iPhones market share has been dropping. This is not even about Samsung, which have positioned themselves against the iPhone in the high price end part of the market, this is about tablets ten times cheaper than an iPAd.
Personally having played with a Huawei g300, a phone eight times cheaper than the iPhone, and been amazed. I would not hesitate getting a large tablet from Huawei, or a Galaxy Note equivalent.
Apple will do well, bet there is better value elsewhere and the market is responding to it. Its why the iPhone is a niche product.
I care and millions of people who have AMD and Nvidia cards on their devices (should if they don't) care. I have been running linux for 10+years but I am of the belief that if vendors support proprietary drivers for their devices, I am all for it. OSS drivers haven't caught up with the h/w in over a decade and the h/w is fast evolving, with newer players entering the scene. Even acceptable Q OSS drivers cannot be created in a meaningful way.
Even intel's linux drivers suck compared to windows drivers. And they actually develop them !
Vendors cannot just build and give everything away - it is time people accepted that.
Your argument is out of date. Intel Drivers have overtaken those of Windows in speed and reliability, and routinely have cutting edge features over their proprietary counterparts.
I can't understand the disconnect between the treatment of Microsoft for this and how Apple gets away with it's 'walled garden'. Could someone please explain why legally one is OK while the other is not.
...one is a monopoly the other is not, Its that simple.
Google and every other advertiser know that, when given the choice to opt in on something, you likely won't. I could type a wall of text, but if you have a few minutes you could watch this TED talk about opt-in vs opt-out.
To sum up: you are not really in control of your decisions
The talk albeit interesting in actually irrelevant to this discussion. opt-in and opt-out are discussed, but only in the instance where complex decisions have to be made [organ transplants after death], and spoiler! they go with the option of least resistance. Which is vastly different for a trial choice everyone would make [if they knew was there; knew how to change it; had the confidence to change it], because nobody likes advertisement.
Apple supports firmware updates including full hardware support for about 3 years at least.
Is that true?
Apple right now are still selling the 3GS iOS 6 runs badly, Admittedly with features stripped. According to you will still be receiving updates in September 2015. It won't. The 3GS is a rare duck in its support, but has done so to give the impression of a larger product line....but seriously measure support from end of sale not start.
Ah yes, "Files". I hate that new name for Nautilus. I think I'll keep using the old name to spite them.:) As for opening another instance, sure you can do that. But that was the same argument that some people used against tabbed browsing when it first appeared. Now everyone uses tabs in a single browser instance simply because it's more convenient
It's hard to care about such abuses by Microsoft when the alternatives have too many niggling issues to use (for me anyway). I'll accept the Devil if he makes my life less stressful. As for spyware/DRM, unless there's a tangible issue that it brings I'll live with it. Linux is just now too painful to use on the desktop, and I'm too old to care about switching anymore.
I love the new name Files...its a meaningful name. Now "Cheese" "Tomboy Notes" and "Gimp" need to be changed to "Cam", "Notes" and "Image Manipulator"
Using Niggles as an excuse when Microsoft itself is plagued with Niggles...its constant maintenance alone which is incredibly stressful. I don't think Microsoft Spyware/DRM will ever be acceptable issue especially when the functionality of simply swopping my hardware and carrying on working is so precious a commodity to me If hardware fails on an OEM machine its not pleasant, as for the spywhere. Microsoft has sold out too many times. But even without that their behaviour is simply too awful for any ethical person to accept.
Ubuntu and hence Gnome user since 8.04 here. Reason why I am moving soonish to OS X is that I am tired of each "upgrade" of Ubuntu (and Gnome) breaking things and changing things. Sure, I can switch to a different distro. Sure, I can switch to different desktop environments. But that's exactly what I am tired of. All the switching and fixing. I want to do my work, not having to Google for hacks, extensions, tweaks, etc. My work (freelance Perl programmer) already involves a lot of problem solving, don't need additional problem solving to make the tools that I need actually work. It's like picking up an hammer and having to shape in into a screwdriver before you can use it. If that's what you like, good luck. But don't call us idiots because we have better things to do. Especially since as soon as I have figured out how to change that hammer into a screwdriver efficiently the hammer is replaced with a fiddle in the next upgrade of Ubuntu and/or Gnome.
If you really use Ubuntu your not using Gnome 3 you are using Unity so not I suspect using extentions as you claim. Personally I would love a list of all the things you "fixed". Which I suspect is nothing. If stability really what you wanted you would have chosen the fantastic stable Debian or LTS Ubuntu both lack current edge features but, well not much fixing. I suspect your post is disingenuous which is a lot worse than being an idiot.
You are an idiot if you switch to OSX or Windows over this.
Guess I'm an idiot. I've run out of patience in all this infighting and tension in the Linux community. I just want some stability in desktop environments. I know everyone hates Windows 8 but Windows 7 is going to be around for quite a while still, so I'm sticking with it.
"infighting and tension" I don't drink Milk anymore because of All the "infighting and tension" that happens between cows. I'm going back to drinking mud.
How can you say that? Compact view is the best view of all systems. I've been using it for years as my default view. I always thought it was stupid on Windows to have each column the same width and use up extra space when one file has a really long name. Choice should be what it is all about.
My opinion is just that an opinion. Although if the need is to have a "Compact View" I would be requesting a better resize "Icon View" [hold down ctrl and move scroll wheel]...and that I would agree is useful.
The full post on nautilus is here http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2012/08/01/cross-cut/ and it does talk about the reasons for removing compact view, and I agree the explanation given is weak, without a better replacement which I still think is an improved Icon View, and this quote "The view itself was not without problems and we would rather focus on making icon and list rock." seems to support that...maybe.
I personally will not miss 2 panes, because I have always found that a bizarre concept in a Desktop environment.
It's amusing you suggest that two panes is a bizarre concept, considering the whole of GNOME 3's shell is ultimately a bizarre concept anyway (compared to most other desktop environments), so it's not like keeping dual panes would be out of place in GNOME 3.:)
I didn't use dual panes much, but occasionally they were useful. Just like the Windows "start" menu - occasionally useful, and it's annoying to have it removed when it wasn't hurting anyone. It's reduction in functionality which made me look into using MATE (which lasted for a while, until I cracked and went back to Windows 7 for reasons of tension with the Linux ecosystem.)
Please do not confuse the gnome shell experience with nautilus. I use Gnome 3 applications with cinnamon and it is excellent. As for my reasons against two panels and why I think its bizarre. I can open more than one instance of "Files". Two panels made sense in DOS. I got driven to Linux by Windows by the abuses by the company and the Spyware/DRM in their [not your] OS Windows 8 is not where I want to be:)
Meh, Gnome 3 doesn't ooze innovation, although it does show to be very open to innovation. It's very obvious that that they are trying to do the right thing. They just aren't very good at it. I'm a user, by the way, for nearly two of years now. Their desktop is very modern. Not exactly innovative since pretty much every feature has been implemented elsewhere, usually better. But at least it's modern.
I really want Gnome 3 to be good but I have little faith in the Gnome team itself, I hope the community can keep them in check. I would love nothing more than they listening to us their users instead of keeping on trying to lure Apple users.
Really it has!? show me where the infinite Desktop idea has been implemented? If your a user why are you not using Mate or Cinnamon [its excellent] if you don't like Gnome Shell. This has nothing to do with Apple users [that is such a strange comment] it looks and fells nothing like OSX thank god. I'm pretty confident they are after the whole market not the few percent that Apple occupy.
I don't want to mention the Apple Effect, but still, I mention the Apple Effect: it's the Apple Effect. Developers think more and more often that there exists a holy path of usage, one that is so smooth, elegant and minimal that everyone finds it pleasing. Mayor usage patterns are becoming linear, and the user is left with the fact that changing background, color, and font-size are now billed advanced and sophisticated personalization options. Less options, less support problems, less things to understand.
...but that is not what is happening or has happened. Its nothing to do with Apple. In fact the Human Interface Guidelines are written by people [Gasp] with nothing to do with Apple. What Gnome is doing is removing clutter...and having sensible defaults, and on the whole I would say they have done an excellent job until recently.
Good lord... One of the developers says that horizontal scrolling is "horrible", and the other says the comments are unhelpful and tells people to go away.
Is there even a point in using GNOME when shit like this happens and with people in charge being such enormous assholes?
I have to say I agree that "Compact View" is a waste of time. I personally will not miss 2 panes, because I have always found that a bizarre concept in a Desktop environment.
Now personally I object to them removing the up directory, because its something I use all day long.
PS. I think its kind of ironic that you calling people "enormous assholes" for telling people to go away
...Microsoft's favoured bedfellow in the free software community.
Why is there no "year of Linux on the desktop"? Well, my friends, it is not because Apple are cunning this or Microsoft are abusive that. It is because no-one has yet come up with a compelling reason to deploy POS like GNOME outside the basement.
. Sadly though as long as iPhone and iPad are racking up the sales I think the only "innovation" is gonna be cell phone ripoff designs
I'm afraid both iPhone and iPad are losing market share. As for innovative, the Gnome 3 desktop is oozes innovation, that is not the problem. Your claim of it looking like an iPad is a little out of place...perhaps you had be better sticking those in the Samsung posts where you usually make them.
Over 6 releases to have them starting to listen to their user? I am out!
Ignoring the fact that Gnome Developers are Users too; There has only been 3 releases [Odd.1 are development releases]; You never had to run it with Mate; Unity; Cinnomom [my personal preference]. Where are you going to, Seriously put that install Ubuntu on that overpriced Apple now so you know what you are talking about:)
You didn't answer your question – can you suggest a different tablet with a screen resolution of 2048x1536 or higher, that is priced at or below $499. The one you mentioned there is barely more than half the resolution of the iPad.
Not good enough the magical 7" Nexus tablet $200 or do you want a larger tablet. I'm feeling the Kindle Fire HD tablet, available 8.9in, 1920x1200 resolution display tablet with 16GB of internal storage, powered by a Texas Instruments Omap 4470 processor priced at $299. Amazon are not the only ones launching high resolution tablets.
Manufacture for $.10; sell for $10; sue anyone who copies. Mm...
Pro tip: if you think that operating profit = retail price - manufacturing cost then don't try starting a business anytime soon. Packaging, promotion, logistics, processing payments all cost money...
I'm sure that, at $10 a pop, Apple are making several bucks, but it ain't $9.90.
I would be shocked if it were anything more than 95% profit on any cable. Apple accountants unlike you are incredible, and are professional. Apple have incredibly low lead times, need zero additional infrastructure for processing payment, and packaging is a sundry expense.
A lot of lower income earners have iphones. They are less like exclusive brands like Ferrari and more like common but overpriced brands suck as Louis Vutton which are the same made in china crap as other bags but have a higher price tag due to the logo.
lower income earners in countries that have expense hire purchase service contracts as standards to lock customers into them for long periods have iPhones [UK/US] the only places they are popular. In places where people have lower income and have to buy the product outright...like say china [larger market than US] you see people not only not buying iPhones, but Android having 12X its market share, and Apples market share shrivelling away.
The primary one, I'd wager, is that phone carrier lets their customers run off with a brand new phone when they renew their contract. Since iPhone owners are reportedly more satisfied than other smartphone owners, and neck-deep in the iOS ecosystem, chances are good that they'll pick a newer iPhone.
Fwiw, Apple's metric for success of late reportedly is for each version to outsell all prior versions combined. Adding to this, dumb phones still outsell smartphones, and customers in developing countries frequently get a smartphone before they get a computer. Bar another dip in the economy (a big if), there's no reason to think the iPhone 5 won't outsell all prior iPhones combined as well.
....Apples smartphone market share worldwide is dropping.
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it has everything to do with the fact that when a new iPhone came out two million people ordered one in 24 hours.
...and 1.3 million but an android phone every day! launch or not, Apples market share is simply slipping away.
Casual computer users don't define the market...Nintendo experienced this pretty hard with the Wii
I'm absolutely certain that Casual computer users are defining the market, which is why we have moved from general purpose computers, which are powerful, flexible, useful to to closed garden, electronics, Apple are already there, Windows will be there next release, Linux is well...trying to be all things. As for Nintendo have still outsold PS3 and Xbox 360 and look to be the first to refresh their product line, and sold an amazing expensive peripherals, make a profit on every unit sold, and their first party software has legs.
I'm not really sure of your point, but I'm certain its wrong.
Expensive hardware has been dead for a while. That's why Apple had such disappointing preorders of the new iPhone and has been lagging behind Samsung in tablet sell-through.
Or, maybe not.
Apples market share in Tablets has been dropping rapidly for some time, and even the iPhones market share has been dropping. This is not even about Samsung, which have positioned themselves against the iPhone in the high price end part of the market, this is about tablets ten times cheaper than an iPAd.
Personally having played with a Huawei g300, a phone eight times cheaper than the iPhone, and been amazed. I would not hesitate getting a large tablet from Huawei, or a Galaxy Note equivalent.
Apple will do well, bet there is better value elsewhere and the market is responding to it. Its why the iPhone is a niche product.
I care and millions of people who have AMD and Nvidia cards on their devices (should if they don't) care. I have been running linux for 10+years but I am of the belief that if vendors support proprietary drivers for their devices, I am all for it. OSS drivers haven't caught up with the h/w in over a decade and the h/w is fast evolving, with newer players entering the scene. Even acceptable Q OSS drivers cannot be created in a meaningful way.
Even intel's linux drivers suck compared to windows drivers. And they actually develop them !
Vendors cannot just build and give everything away - it is time people accepted that.
Your argument is out of date. Intel Drivers have overtaken those of Windows in speed and reliability, and routinely have cutting edge features over their proprietary counterparts.
I can't understand the disconnect between the treatment of Microsoft for this and how Apple gets away with it's 'walled garden'. Could someone please explain why legally one is OK while the other is not.
...one is a monopoly the other is not, Its that simple.
Google and every other advertiser know that, when given the choice to opt in on something, you likely won't. I could type a wall of text, but if you have a few minutes you could watch this TED talk about opt-in vs opt-out.
To sum up: you are not really in control of your decisions
http://www.ted.com/talks/dan_ariely_asks_are_we_in_control_of_our_own_decisions.html
The talk albeit interesting in actually irrelevant to this discussion. opt-in and opt-out are discussed, but only in the instance where complex decisions have to be made [organ transplants after death], and spoiler! they go with the option of least resistance. Which is vastly different for a trial choice everyone would make [if they knew was there; knew how to change it; had the confidence to change it], because nobody likes advertisement.
Apple supports firmware updates including full hardware support for about 3 years at least.
Is that true?
Apple right now are still selling the 3GS iOS 6 runs badly, Admittedly with features stripped. According to you will still be receiving updates in September 2015. It won't. The 3GS is a rare duck in its support, but has done so to give the impression of a larger product line. ...but seriously measure support from end of sale not start.
Ah yes, "Files". I hate that new name for Nautilus. I think I'll keep using the old name to spite them. :) As for opening another instance, sure you can do that. But that was the same argument that some people used against tabbed browsing when it first appeared. Now everyone uses tabs in a single browser instance simply because it's more convenient
It's hard to care about such abuses by Microsoft when the alternatives have too many niggling issues to use (for me anyway). I'll accept the Devil if he makes my life less stressful. As for spyware/DRM, unless there's a tangible issue that it brings I'll live with it. Linux is just now too painful to use on the desktop, and I'm too old to care about switching anymore.
I love the new name Files...its a meaningful name. Now "Cheese" "Tomboy Notes" and "Gimp" need to be changed to "Cam", "Notes" and "Image Manipulator"
Using Niggles as an excuse when Microsoft itself is plagued with Niggles...its constant maintenance alone which is incredibly stressful. I don't think Microsoft Spyware/DRM will ever be acceptable issue especially when the functionality of simply swopping my hardware and carrying on working is so precious a commodity to me If hardware fails on an OEM machine its not pleasant, as for the spywhere. Microsoft has sold out too many times. But even without that their behaviour is simply too awful for any ethical person to accept.
Ubuntu and hence Gnome user since 8.04 here. Reason why I am moving soonish to OS X is that I am tired of each "upgrade" of Ubuntu (and Gnome) breaking things and changing things. Sure, I can switch to a different distro. Sure, I can switch to different desktop environments. But that's exactly what I am tired of. All the switching and fixing. I want to do my work, not having to Google for hacks, extensions, tweaks, etc. My work (freelance Perl programmer) already involves a lot of problem solving, don't need additional problem solving to make the tools that I need actually work. It's like picking up an hammer and having to shape in into a screwdriver before you can use it. If that's what you like, good luck. But don't call us idiots because we have better things to do. Especially since as soon as I have figured out how to change that hammer into a screwdriver efficiently the hammer is replaced with a fiddle in the next upgrade of Ubuntu and/or Gnome.
If you really use Ubuntu your not using Gnome 3 you are using Unity so not I suspect using extentions as you claim. Personally I would love a list of all the things you "fixed". Which I suspect is nothing. If stability really what you wanted you would have chosen the fantastic stable Debian or LTS Ubuntu both lack current edge features but, well not much fixing. I suspect your post is disingenuous which is a lot worse than being an idiot.
Guess I'm an idiot. I've run out of patience in all this infighting and tension in the Linux community. I just want some stability in desktop environments. I know everyone hates Windows 8 but Windows 7 is going to be around for quite a while still, so I'm sticking with it.
"infighting and tension" I don't drink Milk anymore because of All the "infighting and tension" that happens between cows. I'm going back to drinking mud.
How can you say that? Compact view is the best view of all systems. I've been using it for years as my default view. I always thought it was stupid on Windows to have each column the same width and use up extra space when one file has a really long name. Choice should be what it is all about.
My opinion is just that an opinion. Although if the need is to have a "Compact View" I would be requesting a better resize "Icon View" [hold down ctrl and move scroll wheel]...and that I would agree is useful.
The full post on nautilus is here http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2012/08/01/cross-cut/ and it does talk about the reasons for removing compact view, and I agree the explanation given is weak, without a better replacement which I still think is an improved Icon View, and this quote "The view itself was not without problems and we would rather focus on making icon and list rock." seems to support that...maybe.
It's amusing you suggest that two panes is a bizarre concept, considering the whole of GNOME 3's shell is ultimately a bizarre concept anyway (compared to most other desktop environments), so it's not like keeping dual panes would be out of place in GNOME 3. :)
I didn't use dual panes much, but occasionally they were useful. Just like the Windows "start" menu - occasionally useful, and it's annoying to have it removed when it wasn't hurting anyone. It's reduction in functionality which made me look into using MATE (which lasted for a while, until I cracked and went back to Windows 7 for reasons of tension with the Linux ecosystem.)
Please do not confuse the gnome shell experience with nautilus. I use Gnome 3 applications with cinnamon and it is excellent. As for my reasons against two panels and why I think its bizarre. I can open more than one instance of "Files". Two panels made sense in DOS. I got driven to Linux by Windows by the abuses by the company and the Spyware/DRM in their [not your] OS Windows 8 is not where I want to be :)
Meh, Gnome 3 doesn't ooze innovation, although it does show to be very open to innovation. It's very obvious that that they are trying to do the right thing. They just aren't very good at it. I'm a user, by the way, for nearly two of years now. Their desktop is very modern. Not exactly innovative since pretty much every feature has been implemented elsewhere, usually better. But at least it's modern.
I really want Gnome 3 to be good but I have little faith in the Gnome team itself, I hope the community can keep them in check. I would love nothing more than they listening to us their users instead of keeping on trying to lure Apple users.
Really it has!? show me where the infinite Desktop idea has been implemented? If your a user why are you not using Mate or Cinnamon [its excellent] if you don't like Gnome Shell. This has nothing to do with Apple users [that is such a strange comment] it looks and fells nothing like OSX thank god. I'm pretty confident they are after the whole market not the few percent that Apple occupy.
Ignoring the usability issues. Love the renaming of Nautilus to files. They need to continue on that trend
Why are you using Linux desktop? Windows 7 and MacOS X deliver you a premium experience without having to worry about broken shit like this.
Because they don't offer me a premium experience. They offer me an expensive underwhelming experience.
I don't want to mention the Apple Effect, but still, I mention the Apple Effect: it's the Apple Effect.
Developers think more and more often that there exists a holy path of usage, one that is so smooth, elegant and minimal that everyone finds it pleasing. Mayor usage patterns are becoming linear, and the user is left with the fact that changing background, color, and font-size are now billed advanced and sophisticated personalization options. Less options, less support problems, less things to understand.
...but that is not what is happening or has happened. Its nothing to do with Apple. In fact the Human Interface Guidelines are written by people [Gasp] with nothing to do with Apple. What Gnome is doing is removing clutter...and having sensible defaults, and on the whole I would say they have done an excellent job until recently.
Good lord... One of the developers says that horizontal scrolling is "horrible", and the other says the comments are unhelpful and tells people to go away.
Is there even a point in using GNOME when shit like this happens and with people in charge being such enormous assholes?
I have to say I agree that "Compact View" is a waste of time. I personally will not miss 2 panes, because I have always found that a bizarre concept in a Desktop environment.
Now personally I object to them removing the up directory, because its something I use all day long.
PS. I think its kind of ironic that you calling people "enormous assholes" for telling people to go away
...Microsoft's favoured bedfellow in the free software community.
Why is there no "year of Linux on the desktop"? Well, my friends, it is not because Apple are cunning this or Microsoft are abusive that. It is because no-one has yet come up with a compelling reason to deploy POS like GNOME outside the basement.
...price :)
. Sadly though as long as iPhone and iPad are racking up the sales I think the only "innovation" is gonna be cell phone ripoff designs
I'm afraid both iPhone and iPad are losing market share. As for innovative, the Gnome 3 desktop is oozes innovation, that is not the problem. Your claim of it looking like an iPad is a little out of place...perhaps you had be better sticking those in the Samsung posts where you usually make them.
Over 6 releases to have them starting to listen to their user? I am out!
Ignoring the fact that Gnome Developers are Users too; There has only been 3 releases [Odd .1 are development releases]; You never had to run it with Mate; Unity; Cinnomom [my personal preference]. Where are you going to, Seriously put that install Ubuntu on that overpriced Apple now so you know what you are talking about :)
You didn't answer your question – can you suggest a different tablet with a screen resolution of 2048x1536 or higher, that is priced at or below $499. The one you mentioned there is barely more than half the resolution of the iPad.
Not good enough the magical 7" Nexus tablet $200 or do you want a larger tablet. I'm feeling the Kindle Fire HD tablet, available 8.9in, 1920x1200 resolution display tablet with 16GB of internal storage, powered by a Texas Instruments Omap 4470 processor priced at $299. Amazon are not the only ones launching high resolution tablets.
Seriously does Google not work on the iPad
Manufacture for $.10; sell for $10; sue anyone who copies. Mm...
Pro tip: if you think that operating profit = retail price - manufacturing cost then don't try starting a business anytime soon. Packaging, promotion, logistics, processing payments all cost money...
I'm sure that, at $10 a pop, Apple are making several bucks, but it ain't $9.90.
I would be shocked if it were anything more than 95% profit on any cable. Apple accountants unlike you are incredible, and are professional. Apple have incredibly low lead times, need zero additional infrastructure for processing payment, and packaging is a sundry expense.
A lot of lower income earners have iphones. They are less like exclusive brands like Ferrari and more like common but overpriced brands suck as Louis Vutton which are the same made in china crap as other bags but have a higher price tag due to the logo.
lower income earners in countries that have expense hire purchase service contracts as standards to lock customers into them for long periods have iPhones [UK/US] the only places they are popular. In places where people have lower income and have to buy the product outright...like say china [larger market than US] you see people not only not buying iPhones, but Android having 12X its market share, and Apples market share shrivelling away.
The primary one, I'd wager, is that phone carrier lets their customers run off with a brand new phone when they renew their contract. Since iPhone owners are reportedly more satisfied than other smartphone owners, and neck-deep in the iOS ecosystem, chances are good that they'll pick a newer iPhone.
Fwiw, Apple's metric for success of late reportedly is for each version to outsell all prior versions combined. Adding to this, dumb phones still outsell smartphones, and customers in developing countries frequently get a smartphone before they get a computer. Bar another dip in the economy (a big if), there's no reason to think the iPhone 5 won't outsell all prior iPhones combined as well.
....Apples smartphone market share worldwide is dropping.
iPhones and iPads are not phones or tablets. They are purely fashion statements.
No one would buy them otherwise.
Can you suggest a different tablet with a screen resolution of 2048x1536 or higher that is priced at or below $499?
Apple products have a massive mark-up that is irrefutable. They will never be best value devices...that is not their business model.
As for there higher DPI, The Nexus has better hardware at a better price point in a better form factor.